Thursday, September 24, 2015

The group behind those Planned Parenthood videos is being ordered by the courts to turn over documentation and raw footage.

Courtesy of Politico:  

Two courts have ruled in as many days that anti-abortion activist David Daleiden and the Center for Medical Progress must turn over private documents and submit to questions about how they orchestrated their video sting of Planned Parenthood. 

The rulings could require Daleiden to turn over paperwork and details of his operation, such as how he got into National Abortion Federation conferences. They also say he must provide the full, raw footage he collected of some of his meetings while posing as an executive of a fictitious tissue procurement firm. 

Opponents hope that those could show that he violated laws to obtain footage. 

The videos, which purport to show that Planned Parenthood makes a profit from selling fetal tissue from aborted fetuses — allegations the women's health provider denies — have set off a furor and led to calls to strip the group of government funding.

The suits were brought by the National Abortion Federation and StemExpress, a group that was featured prominently in the videos.

Considering who these plaintiffs are it would seem that they are unafraid that the unedited footage and documents will damage Planned Parenthood or abortion providers in any way, but believe instead that it will likely prove that this Center for Medical Progress used questionable editing techniques and possibly illegal tactics to gain gain and alter the footage that they used in their hit pieces against PP.

Gee I wonder what their conservative defenders will say when it is proven that this whole thing was a hoax and a manipulation of the facts?


  1. Olivia12:11 PM

    "Gee I wonder what their conservative defenders will say when it is proven that this whole thing was a hoax and a manipulation of the facts? "
    They will say exactly what a RWNJ said to me when I pointed out the fallacy of one of those asinine chain emails about Barack Obama...
    "I know this has been debunked and said to be false but I like it and so I am sending it to everyone anyway."

    1. Yep. Cult thinking. NOTHING penetrates.

    2. Anonymous12:39 PM

      Perfectly put Barbara. They can't be talked to or see anything for the truth if it doesn't support their "position".

      Cults are creepy and scary and this one in our country has gotten way too out of hand.

    3. Anonymous12:39 PM

      Yup. The truth is whatever they say it is.

    4. Anonymous12:50 PM

      Agreed and the Internet has made "groupthink" so much easier. It used to be harder to find one's cult. Not now - you just need a press of a button.

      Glad they will be going to court. I hope someone sues Fiorina, too.

    5. Boscoe12:58 PM

      They'll say the "proof" is the REAL hoax just like they always do. Remember, the key symptom of Conservative Brain Disorder is that they believe they are never, EVER wrong.

    6. Anonymous4:38 PM

      Gee I wonder what their conservative defenders will say when it is proven that this whole thing was a hoax and a manipulation of the facts?
      Crickets, and the local news who fell for this faux scandal.
      I heard on Stephannie Miller show this morning the assholes are sending out email screeds worthy of la Palin "OBama kills baby for profit" or some bullshit like that. These idiots eat this shit up.
      It is really a sad state 'merica is in.
      Well hopefully that will stop the gov shutdown?
      All these little conservative bullshit ops should be treated as domestic terror cells, they should be rooted out and thrown in jail.
      Abortion is LEGAL!
      With all the Birth control modalities that are available it should only happen in rare cases.
      But it needs to be available. No back alley abortions ever again!

    7. Anonymous4:49 PM

      They will say it is a conspiracy. With conspiracies, the lack of proof is in itself the greatest proof !!!

      Not stupidity so much as a paranoid mindset. Read "The True Believer", by Eric Hoffer.

  2. Anonymous12:52 PM

    "Ok, so it's not true, but it supports my values, so I'll ignore that little bug in the ointment."

  3. These people are impervious to facts, unaffected by shame, and consider lying a personality asset. To them winning is not the important thing, it's the only thing. As a matter of fact the confluence of Evangelical Christians and the Rethuglikan Party is the perfect melding of Hate and Religion.

  4. Anonymous1:35 PM

    Gryphen, you ought to consider posting about this travesty of misappropriation-

    Trig and Tripp, who ought to at least have enough autonomy NOT to be used as blatant political props, being once more thrust in the midst of the abortion debate.

    This is disgusting beyond words and I hope Levi can and does make stipulations in the custody agreement- no usage of his SONS in political propaganda or non-personal social media.

    1. Anonymous1:42 PM

      He already said something about it. Also, if Levi sold out Trig then it may be wrong to use him as a prop, but Levi sold out, so he has no further say in the matter. He should speak out about Trig abusing animals if Levi wants to be a do-gooder. He said hisself that he's a "fuckin redneck". And one look at Sunny's instagram shows what an illiterate slug he is. Jerk doesn't deserve what he has!!!!!

    2. Anonymous1:55 PM

      1:42 PM has a hair up her ass for Levi, I wonder why.

    3. Anonymous2:01 PM

      Please, 1:35! Gryphen will protect his best girl Sadie. He ain't got time for either of those kids. Get a grip.

    4. Anonymous2:13 PM

      Levi is too busy doing man shit. Just chill.

    5. Anonymous2:19 PM

      Do you know for a fact that "Levi sold out"? Please temember that Levi was a kid. He was a teenager when he got entangled in the Palin dramas. IMO Levi is a responsible young man and he IS still a young man of 25 or 26. The Palins should be so lucky as to have a kid like Levi.

    6. Anonymous3:22 PM

      Sorry, but if Levi was over 18 he was old enough to enter into an agreement to give up the child, if that is what he did. He was old enough to get into a bed or tent of whatever to make a baby, so he can be responsible. He's not too young to put a condom on his overactive widdle pee-pee. You can't criticize Bristol without criticizing Levi. They deserve each other.

    7. Anonymous4:13 PM

      Mercede said that barstool and Levi were very noisy when they had sex! Hahaha!

    8. Anonymous6:26 PM


    9. Anonymous7:00 AM

      Remember that Bristles said to Levi "I hope you are NOT the father" so there must have been others. Her reputation was shot long before Levi made the mistake of "dating" her.

  5. Anonymous1:37 PM

    I'm surprised this guy isn't trying to hide behind the first amendment and scream freedom of the press. James O'keefe try's to claim he is a muckraking journalist (more like a shit spreading liar so I'm shocked the guy who did the PP videos hasn't gone there.

    1. Even journalists can be sued for slander or libel when they twist or edit facts into lies.

  6. Anonymous2:06 PM

    Dude, it's already too late. The people who the videos were aimed at have already been told what they already believed. Right now all you're doing is arguing over the wording that will appear in the correction on the bottom of page A12 of the Friday paper--i.e. something few people will see and that won't sway the discussion one bit.

  7. I'm waiting for the IRS to squash David Daleiden and the Center for Medical Progress like a bug.

  8. Anonymous6:27 PM

    Way to late for the court to be effective with this. People believe what they first hear. Anything more about it is just noise. That is how the liars and rethugs like it.

    Hope that this asshat not only goes to jail, but that PP sues him for way more than he will ever have.

  9. Anonymous9:05 PM

    At least one of the misleading photos had to be a HIPAA violation - that's a $50,000 fine, job termination and possible jail time - I can't wait to see who goes down for that.

  10. Anonymous10:35 PM

    TLC Schedules Specials With Two Duggar Sisters Who Were Allegedly Abused

    The channel is slated to cover a missionary trip that Dillard, her husband Derick, and infant son plan to take to El Salvador, according to the report.

    The network is also scheduled to document Seewald's first pregnancy with her husband, Ben, according to the publication.

    A year-end premiere is planned for at least one of the specials, according to the report.

    1. Anonymous7:02 AM

      The Duggars are as bad as the PayMe clan when it comes to fame whoring.

  11. Remember, it's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.

    Hence the right wing nut jobs will still believe this whole "sting" was real. They won't, can't admit they were fooled. That would mean they have to examine their whole belief system.

  12. Carly Fiorina's campaign just "made up" a video to prove Carly's statement was correct and you guessed it, the rabid talibangelicals, fundies and bible thumpers are eating it up, screaming for the head of Planned Parenthood to be brought to them on a platter.

    They didn't even use any Planned Parenthood footage. They stripped the audio and used voice overs. It is so blatantly made up and yet the knuckle draggers and mouth breathers are having an apoplexy of rapture to be "proved" right all along.


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