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Monday, September 07, 2015
The rule is to never compare anything to the Nazis, or anyone to Hitler. But you have to admit, they have a point.
True. our fellow americans are listening to the lies and distorted truth of those that are destroying our country and selling out americans. Will it end in 2016? don't know. but damage is done and zit united continues to influence and buy our elections. This is not good. WAKE UP. huck a chit defending little miss faith in jail and stating that church rules judicial is completely insane and ignorant as the hell it came from. Media has an obligation to expose and exploit such.
Ok false alarm I think I found it "Location: Willow Case number: AK15071696 Type: MIW II, Assault II, Assault III
Text: On 9/2/15 at approximately 0838 hours, Troopers responded to a residence near mile 83 of the Parks Highway in Willow for report of a shooting. Responding Troopers secured the scene and initial investigation revealed, Marvin Mandros, 55 of Willow, was injured when Lincoln Mark, 69 of Willow, fired a shot into the residence. Mandros sustained non-life threatening injuries. Mark reportedly drove away after firing the round. Patrol troopers, with assistance from ABI investigators, took Mark into custody without incident at a residence near mile 76 of the Parks Highway. After consultation with the District Attorney's Office Mark was remanded on charges of MIW II x 2, Assault II, Assault III.
Received Wednesday, September 02, 2015 2:02 PM and posted Wednesday, September 02, 2015 2:33 PM" http://www.dps.alaska.gov/pio/dispatch/Trooper%20Dispatches%20of%2009-02-2015.20150902.txt So weird why the AST want to cover it up? Carry on....
OT This is an informative article about how Trump gets what he wants. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/trumps-war-with-palm-beach-213122?o=0
I don't quite understand the quote, Who made it? The word "followed" doesn't make sense because the Jews were not "followers" of Hitler. His supporters were "followers".
And anyone who reads about the Holocaust knows that the Jews at Auschwitz were unloaded at the camp in the middle of the night, after days-long train rides, usually in standing room in the cattle cars, without food or water. Those who survived the train trips were unloaded by men with guns and dogs and put into lines that marched directly into the showers. I don't know about you, but I don't think I'd have been in any condition to resist.
In the ghettos the Jews were forced into in cities, disease and starvation often killed people. Mass shootings from the ghettos to the killing pits around the cities were common place and, again, its hard to resist a man with a machine gun and a snarling dog at his side. And, yet, there was resistance to the Nazis, by Jews on both an individual and a group level. The "Warsaw Ghetto" uprising in 1943 was the most resistance the Nazis faced in any occupied city.
It was the blond-haired, blue-eyed Germans (aka Aryans) who blindly followed Hitler, because he was an expert at telling them what they wanted to hear -- blame all their problems on the Jews, the gays, the gypsies -- in fact, anyone not like them. Sound familiar? Well, it should, because that's exactly what Palin was pushing in 2008, and what Trump is pushing in a much more vigorous way in 2015.
Great question in my opinion! I want to add to what Maple shared. You're focusing on the details of the RESULTS of what happened as opposed to HOW the messaging made it possible in the first place.
I totally agree Maple. Trump is blaming all our woes on immigrants. His fellow aspirants to the presidency are not fighting back effectively and some of them are agreeing that one's personal religious beliefs override the law of the land. We are in trouble if the GOP gains more in this election.
It was 13 million people, not 6. 7 million people who were not Jews also died in the Holocaust. Please dont minimize and dismiss their suffering and sacrifice.
Phoebe is right. And I think you are missing her point.
Whoever wrote the statement about Fox News is wrong. Six million Jews didn't follow Hitler.
Many Jews left Europe. Many tried to fight back and were killed. Others were just shot on sight whether or not they fought back. Most were too old or young or sick or scared or without any other resources to do anything but get on those trains and be shipped off to the death camps.
Frankly, the person who wrote this about Fox News doesn't quite understand what happened in Germany under the Nazi regime.
The real question is how did the majority of Germans (and many other Europeans) follow blindly while more than 6 million people were rounded up at gunpont and carted off to be put to death?
Fox news viewers aren't the Jews, they are the Germans.
So, I'll change the quote to my own experience and why we should be scared for what's going on currently:
I remember studying the Holocaust in Middle School and thinking, how did all those Germans and other Europeans blindly follow Hitler and let millions of people be slaughtered? Now I see that Americans are taking the same path.
I can't stand it when people think all the Jews had to do was resist and Hitler would have been stopped.
Jews were scapegoats and had been for centuries. Other groups were easy targets as well. The Jews (to only look at the largest group) were already marginalized, but I really don't think the majority wanted to believe that people actually wanted them dead. These were their neighbors and fellow Germans. They were told lies about where they were going and what would happen to them, and were suspicious, but what other choice did they have?
By the time the Jews were put onto trains, what could they possibly do? When someone resisted, they were beaten or killed and everyone else witnessed it. The only people who could have stopped it were other citizens who either cheered or sat back and did nothing.
Anonymous9:13 AM, "phoebes in santa fe" is not right and this is not an "excellent response". You all seem to be reading impaired and more interested in responding than reading.
I watched a lecture given by Naomi Wolfe, she wrote The End of America and a New World Order....it really gave me pause, She describes how similar Germany was in the 1930's as a free, democratic society...very progressive. The seeds of what was to come was gradual and below the radar of most with the constant hum of the Nazi party coming into power. There are 10 elements that are exactly the same as today....the general population was asleep while these monsters came to power. The constant beating of the hate drums is called Fox and now they have their leader on air 24/7 thanks to our disgusting media. It is downright scary....her lectures are on You Tube...worth the watch.
Seriously. I don't know how so many commenters could read the post and misinterpret the quote. The quote's author is not talking about how many people perished at the the hands of Hitler. Sharon 9:51 AM is correct.
"The 1930 elections changed the German political landscape by weakening the traditional nationalist parties, the DNVP and the DVP, leaving the Nazis as the chief alternative to the discredited SPD and the Zentrum, whose leader, Heinrich Brüning, headed a weak minority government. The inability of the democratic parties to form a united front, the self-imposed isolation of the Communists, and the continued decline of the economy, all played into Hitler's hands. He now came to be seen as de facto leader of the opposition, and donations poured into the Nazi Party's coffers. "
There were approximately 6 million Germans who voted for Hitler in those eleactions and changed the course of history.
I suppose you could be right, although I don't think the number of Germans who voted for Hitler is as well known as the number of Jews and others who perished under his rule. I apologize if I misinterpreted the quote and thank you for letting us know we might be incorrect.
Regardless, the author is right that there is something going on in America today that is reminiscent of Germany in the 1930s.
Anonymous4:51 PM, thank you for your last comment. I appreciate your willingness to reconsider your previous comments. For what it's worth (in terms of reliability) The wiki page does a decent job of publishing the German election results for the years leading up to World War II
It is a poorly worded quote.... it's about the Holocaust.. it says so in the first line...come on folks, the number 6 million is associated with the Holocaust, NOT the German election of 1930 which was 10 years before!!
If the question is about how could folks follow lies blindly, we don't have to reach all the way back to WWII... how about 9/11/01??? But the fact is, folks ARE waking up. There is too much emphasis here on the negative and not enough on all the very positive changes taking place... such as - Affordable Healthcare...Iran Deal...new progressive Pope... the Obama administration has kept us out of a war for 6 years.... DENALI DENALI DENALI....!!!
Yes, there are a lot of positives, but at what cost? Imagine where we would be if people were informed and actually voted for what's best for their country and fellow citizens, instead of voting for people who crave power and a scorched earth policy of retaining power at all costs?
Imagine where we would be if people hadn't blindly waved the flag and followed those who took us to war in Iraq. Imagine if people voted in the mid-terms and had given President Obama a Democratic senate and House. Ignorance and apathy has not changed. People are more interested in the Kardashians than getting involved in their political process.
Your comment makes no sense. What 6 million people "followed alog blindly"? The quote is about the events leading up to the Holocaust. Th only way the 6 million makes sense is if it is about the votes which gave Hitler power and the xenophobic "patriots" who blindly voted for him and those who didn't fight back.
True. our fellow americans are listening to the lies and distorted truth of those that are destroying our country and selling out americans. Will it end in 2016? don't know. but damage is done and zit united continues to influence and buy our elections. This is not good. WAKE UP. huck a chit defending little miss faith in jail and stating that church rules judicial is completely insane and ignorant as the hell it came from. Media has an obligation to expose and exploit such.
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin > Hitler
ReplyDeleteHitler > Sarah Palin
No no no..
DeleteTrump is Hitler
Palin is Moussolini
Cruz is Hirohito
The Axis of Evil
You got that right, 5:45 AM, and we're going to find out all too soon WTH they're up to.
DeleteOk false alarm I think I found it "Location: Willow
DeleteCase number: AK15071696
Type: MIW II, Assault II, Assault III
Text: On 9/2/15 at approximately 0838 hours, Troopers responded to a residence near mile 83 of the Parks Highway in Willow for report of a shooting. Responding Troopers secured the scene and initial investigation revealed, Marvin Mandros, 55 of Willow, was injured when Lincoln Mark, 69 of Willow, fired a shot into the residence. Mandros sustained non-life threatening injuries. Mark reportedly drove away after firing the round. Patrol troopers, with assistance from ABI investigators, took Mark into custody without incident at a residence near mile 76 of the Parks Highway. After consultation with the District Attorney's Office Mark was remanded on charges of MIW II x 2, Assault II, Assault III.
Received Wednesday, September 02, 2015 2:02 PM and posted Wednesday, September 02, 2015 2:33 PM"
http://www.dps.alaska.gov/pio/dispatch/Trooper%20Dispatches%20of%2009-02-2015.20150902.txt
So weird why the AST want to cover it up?
Carry on....
Heil Field Marshal Sarah Palin
ReplyDeleteThat's Sarah von Palin
DeleteOT This is an informative article about how Trump gets what he wants. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/trumps-war-with-palm-beach-213122?o=0
ReplyDeleteI don't quite understand the quote, Who made it? The word "followed" doesn't make sense because the Jews were not "followers" of Hitler. His supporters were "followers".
ReplyDeleteAnd anyone who reads about the Holocaust knows that the Jews at Auschwitz were unloaded at the camp in the middle of the night, after days-long train rides, usually in standing room in the cattle cars, without food or water. Those who survived the train trips were unloaded by men with guns and dogs and put into lines that marched directly into the showers. I don't know about you, but I don't think I'd have been in any condition to resist.
In the ghettos the Jews were forced into in cities, disease and starvation often killed people. Mass shootings from the ghettos to the killing pits around the cities were common place and, again, its hard to resist a man with a machine gun and a snarling dog at his side. And, yet, there was resistance to the Nazis, by Jews on both an individual and a group level.
The "Warsaw Ghetto" uprising in 1943 was the most resistance the Nazis faced in any occupied city.
Please get your facts right.
It was the blond-haired, blue-eyed Germans (aka Aryans) who blindly followed Hitler, because he was an expert at telling them what they wanted to hear -- blame all their problems on the Jews, the gays, the gypsies -- in fact, anyone not like them.
DeleteSound familiar? Well, it should, because that's exactly what Palin was pushing in 2008, and what Trump is pushing in a much more vigorous way in 2015.
Greetings Phoebes,
DeleteGreat question in my opinion! I want to add to what Maple shared. You're focusing on the details of the RESULTS of what happened as opposed to HOW the messaging made it possible in the first place.
Hope that clarifies it a bit more for you.
I totally agree Maple. Trump is blaming all our woes on immigrants. His fellow aspirants to the presidency are not fighting back effectively and some of them are agreeing that one's personal religious beliefs override the law of the land. We are in trouble if the GOP gains more in this election.
DeleteIt was 13 million people, not 6. 7 million people who were not Jews also died in the Holocaust. Please dont minimize and dismiss their suffering and sacrifice.
ReplyDeleteYou are correct, but I think "sacrifice" is a poor choice of words.
DeletePhoebe is right. And I think you are missing her point.
ReplyDeleteWhoever wrote the statement about Fox News is wrong. Six million Jews didn't follow Hitler.
Many Jews left Europe. Many tried to fight back and were killed. Others were just shot on sight whether or not they fought back. Most were too old or young or sick or scared or without any other resources to do anything but get on those trains and be shipped off to the death camps.
Frankly, the person who wrote this about Fox News doesn't quite understand what happened in Germany under the Nazi regime.
The real question is how did the majority of Germans (and many other Europeans) follow blindly while more than 6 million people were rounded up at gunpont and carted off to be put to death?
Fox news viewers aren't the Jews, they are the Germans.
So, I'll change the quote to my own experience and why we should be scared for what's going on currently:
I remember studying the Holocaust in Middle School and thinking, how did all those Germans and other Europeans blindly follow Hitler and let millions of people be slaughtered? Now I see that Americans are taking the same path.
Excellent response, Anon@9.13a.
DeleteAnd you're right about the numbers, Anon@8.57a. Many more than Jews died under Hitler's rule.
Your's too, Phoebe.
DeleteI can't stand it when people think all the Jews had to do was resist and Hitler would have been stopped.
Jews were scapegoats and had been for centuries. Other groups were easy targets as well. The Jews (to only look at the largest group) were already marginalized, but I really don't think the majority wanted to believe that people actually wanted them dead. These were their neighbors and fellow Germans. They were told lies about where they were going and what would happen to them, and were suspicious, but what other choice did they have?
By the time the Jews were put onto trains, what could they possibly do? When someone resisted, they were beaten or killed and everyone else witnessed it. The only people who could have stopped it were other citizens who either cheered or sat back and did nothing.
Anonymous9:13 AM, "phoebes in santa fe" is not right and this is not an "excellent response". You all seem to be reading impaired and more interested in responding than reading.
DeleteI watched a lecture given by Naomi Wolfe, she wrote The End of America and a New World Order....it really gave me pause, She describes how similar Germany was in the 1930's as a free, democratic society...very progressive. The seeds of what was to come was gradual and below the radar of most with the constant hum of the Nazi party coming into power. There are 10 elements that are exactly the same as today....the general population was asleep while these monsters came to power. The constant beating of the hate drums is called Fox and now they have their leader on air 24/7 thanks to our disgusting media. It is downright scary....her lectures are on You Tube...worth the watch.
ReplyDeleteSeriously. I don't know how so many commenters could read the post and misinterpret the quote. The quote's author is not talking about how many people perished at the the hands of Hitler. Sharon 9:51 AM is correct.
ReplyDelete"The 1930 elections changed the German political landscape by weakening the traditional nationalist parties, the DNVP and the DVP, leaving the Nazis as the chief alternative to the discredited SPD and the Zentrum, whose leader, Heinrich Brüning, headed a weak minority government. The inability of the democratic parties to form a united front, the self-imposed isolation of the Communists, and the continued decline of the economy, all played into Hitler's hands. He now came to be seen as de facto leader of the opposition, and donations poured into the Nazi Party's coffers. "
There were approximately 6 million Germans who voted for Hitler in those eleactions and changed the course of history.
9:13/10:45 here.
DeleteI suppose you could be right, although I don't think the number of Germans who voted for Hitler is as well known as the number of Jews and others who perished under his rule. I apologize if I misinterpreted the quote and thank you for letting us know we might be incorrect.
Regardless, the author is right that there is something going on in America today that is reminiscent of Germany in the 1930s.
Anonymous4:51 PM, thank you for your last comment. I appreciate your willingness to reconsider your previous comments. For what it's worth (in terms of reliability) The wiki page does a decent job of publishing the German election results for the years leading up to World War II
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
Anonymous8:57 AM
ReplyDeletePerhaps you should take more time to reread the quote before reactively posting.
It is a poorly worded quote.... it's about the Holocaust.. it says so in the first line...come on folks, the number 6 million is associated with the Holocaust, NOT the German election of 1930 which was 10 years before!!
ReplyDeleteIf the question is about how could folks follow lies blindly, we don't have to reach all the way back to WWII... how about 9/11/01??? But the fact is, folks ARE waking up. There is too much emphasis here on the negative and not enough on all the very positive changes taking place... such as - Affordable Healthcare...Iran Deal...new progressive Pope... the Obama administration has kept us out of a war for 6 years.... DENALI DENALI DENALI....!!!
Yes, there are a lot of positives, but at what cost? Imagine where we would be if people were informed and actually voted for what's best for their country and fellow citizens, instead of voting for people who crave power and a scorched earth policy of retaining power at all costs?
DeleteImagine where we would be if people hadn't blindly waved the flag and followed those who took us to war in Iraq. Imagine if people voted in the mid-terms and had given President Obama a Democratic senate and House. Ignorance and apathy has not changed. People are more interested in the Kardashians than getting involved in their political process.
Your comment makes no sense. What 6 million people "followed alog blindly"? The quote is about the events leading up to the Holocaust. Th only way the 6 million makes sense is if it is about the votes which gave Hitler power and the xenophobic "patriots" who blindly voted for him and those who didn't fight back.
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