Morality is not determined by the church you attend nor the faith you embrace. It is determined by the quality of your character and the positive impact you have on those you meet along your journey
Monday, September 07, 2015
Sam Harris talks about stem cell research and morality.
I think that this is one of the most compelling arguments against the idea of personhood, and the idea that experimentation on fetal tissue is immoral.
Kind of puts this whole anti-Planned Parenthood debate into perspective don't you think?
Anon at 4:09 am. There is a real need for both kinds of posts because Sarah Palin represents how an unfortunately substantial portion of the population thinks (or fails to think - really). Sam Harris' words are a good counterbalance to the drivel that we hear from the likes of Palin and the folks in the overloaded GOP "klown kar." If we don't hear what the loonies are saying to the low-functioning Fox-watching part of the electorate we do not know what we are up against. Beaglemom
I agree. In addition, lots of people come here because of the Palin posts. If they can then also get exposed to posts like this one, that's a good thing.
Outstanding. I am in total agreement with Anonymous4:09 AM. We need more of these articles. I know and respect that this is Gryphen's blog but I miss the pre-Palin days on IM. I am in disagreement with Anonymous5:44 AM. Any Palin post brings out the worst in people - juvenile, loathesome comments that are as bad or worst than the C4P, Breitbart or any of those right wing sites. I don't even read or click on the comments for the Palin posts.
I miss the pre-Palin days in the U.S. of A....we now live in a post-palin reality. We need to recognize that the what was once fringe-loonie has now reached all the way to the highest levels of power on the right. To the extent that Palin serves as an iconic symbol of the irrational, she and her ilk need to be kept in the spot light of public discourse...even if it brings out the worst manners in some poster.
I took the liberty of looking up Sam Harris, and it does say that "some people" believe that he is anti-Muslim while many others do not. It appears that he is more anti-religion than simply anti-Muslim.
If Sam Harris didn't hate all Muslims, I might watch.
His talk does not mention Muslims, or Islam, or terrorism—or make any sort of oblique reference. Given that assurance from someone who has watched it, would you reconsider your decision? If not, I suggest that says something about you.
Has Harris actually said that he "hates" all Muslims? Or is this just Palinspeak?
Has Harris actually said that he hates "all" Muslims? Even the one he's co-authoring a book with?
Sam Harris primer: https://www.google.com/search?q=sam+harris+meme&biw=1455&bih=705&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMImL_9sbflxwIVBE6SCh2HOQbo
Ted Powell, why don't you look up Bill Maher's show and what Sam Harris has said there about Muslims? Then tell me that it's my problem. What an idiotic response from you to mask your own ignorance.
Ted Powell, why don't you look up Bill Maher's show …
I watched it the evening it was aired. It was a while back, but I believe it would have stuck in my mind if at any point he had said that he hated all Muslims, as an earlier commenter here has claimed. My questions to that person have gone unanswered.
I made it clickable for you (it's not hard). The only instances of the word "hate" in that article were said to be quoted from a Pentagon-commissioned study, and neither of them was attributed to Harris.
Haven't you noticed? All the links I post are clickable. Tuum est.
… you defend anti-Muslim bigotry.
Non sequitur. It may possibly (I merely make a suggestion) have escaped your comprehension, but I'm defending the English language, specifically the words "hate" and "all", in hopes of doing a small bit towards raising the level of discourse on a mostly-wonderful blog.
We need MORE videos like this one, Every point he brings up is valid, especially the "Soul Arithmetic" and his last line about religion keeping people blind to facts and science. How long have we been fighting horrible diseases like Cancer, MS, Parkinsons, and many others? Reminds me of President GWBush's rant against stem cell research, saying we could "use" already harvested stem cells, but once they're gone he wanted to stop the practice of stem cell research. When one is desperately ill and fighting for their lives, ANY shred of hope for a cure can work wonders in helping them fight, and I'm speaking as one who's been there.
This is one of the best articles I've ever read on the blog. Can we see more of these and less of the Palins?
ReplyDeleteAnon at 4:09 am. There is a real need for both kinds of posts because Sarah Palin represents how an unfortunately substantial portion of the population thinks (or fails to think - really). Sam Harris' words are a good counterbalance to the drivel that we hear from the likes of Palin and the folks in the overloaded GOP "klown kar." If we don't hear what the loonies are saying to the low-functioning Fox-watching part of the electorate we do not know what we are up against.
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
I agree. In addition, lots of people come here because of the Palin posts. If they can then also get exposed to posts like this one, that's a good thing.
DeleteOutstanding. I am in total agreement with Anonymous4:09 AM. We need more of these articles. I know and respect that this is Gryphen's blog but I miss the pre-Palin days on IM. I am in disagreement with Anonymous5:44 AM. Any Palin post brings out the worst in people - juvenile, loathesome comments that are as bad or worst than the C4P, Breitbart or any of those right wing sites. I don't even read or click on the comments for the Palin posts.
ReplyDeleteYes! Thank you 5:56!
DeleteI miss the pre-Palin days in the U.S. of A....we now live in a post-palin reality. We need to recognize that the what was once fringe-loonie has now reached all the way to the highest levels of power on the right. To the extent that Palin serves as an iconic symbol of the irrational, she and her ilk need to be kept in the spot light of public discourse...even if it brings out the worst manners in some poster.
DeleteI wish to say happy labor day to Bristol ... for when or ever if it happens.
ReplyDeleteWhat does this have to do with Sam Harris?
DeleteIf Sam Harris didn't hate all Muslims, I might watch. But his anti-Muslim "terrorism" prejudice is well-known.
ReplyDeleteI took the liberty of looking up Sam Harris, and it does say that "some people" believe that he is anti-Muslim while many others do not. It appears that he is more anti-religion than simply anti-Muslim.
DeleteIf Sam Harris didn't hate all Muslims, I might watch.
DeleteHis talk does not mention Muslims, or Islam, or terrorism—or make any sort of oblique reference. Given that assurance from someone who has watched it, would you reconsider your decision? If not, I suggest that says something about you.
Has Harris actually said that he "hates" all Muslims? Or is this just Palinspeak?
Has Harris actually said that he hates "all" Muslims? Even the one he's co-authoring a book with?
Sam Harris primer: https://www.google.com/search?q=sam+harris+meme&biw=1455&bih=705&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMImL_9sbflxwIVBE6SCh2HOQbo
DeleteHere is Sam Harris's response to people criticizing his appearance on Maher's show. To say he "hates all Muslims" is incorrect.
Deletehttp://www.samharris.org/blog/item/can-liberalism-be-saved-from-itself
Sam Harris primer: https://www.google.com/search?q= …
DeleteA Google search. Now that's the epitome of Deep Thought.
Ted Powell, why don't you look up Bill Maher's show and what Sam Harris has said there about Muslims? Then tell me that it's my problem. What an idiotic response from you to mask your own ignorance.
ReplyDeleteTed Powell, why don't you look up Bill Maher's show …
DeleteI watched it the evening it was aired. It was a while back, but I believe it would have stuck in my mind if at any point he had said that he hated all Muslims, as an earlier commenter here has claimed. My questions to that person have gone unanswered.
Hey Ted Powell, this link is for you: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/03/sam-harris-muslim-animus
ReplyDeleteHey Ted Powell, this link is for you: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/03/sam-harris-muslim-animus
ReplyDeleteI made it clickable for you (it's not hard). The only instances of the word "hate" in that article were said to be quoted from a Pentagon-commissioned study, and neither of them was attributed to Harris.
Maybe you should go through & make all the links on IM clickable, Ted. It's not hard, especially as you defend anti-Muslim bigotry.
DeleteMaybe you should …
DeleteHaven't you noticed? All the links I post are clickable. Tuum est.
… you defend anti-Muslim bigotry.
Non sequitur. It may possibly (I merely make a suggestion) have escaped your comprehension, but I'm defending the English language, specifically the words "hate" and "all", in hopes of doing a small bit towards raising the level of discourse on a mostly-wonderful blog.
Ted, post hoc ergo prompter hoc.
DeleteTed, post hoc ergo propter hoc. Good night & good luck.
DeleteWe need MORE videos like this one, Every point he brings up is valid, especially the "Soul Arithmetic" and his last line about religion keeping people blind to facts and science.
ReplyDeleteHow long have we been fighting horrible diseases like Cancer, MS, Parkinsons, and many others?
Reminds me of President GWBush's rant against stem cell research, saying we could "use" already harvested stem cells, but once they're gone he wanted to stop the practice of stem cell research.
When one is desperately ill and fighting for their lives, ANY shred of hope for a cure can work wonders in helping them fight, and I'm speaking as one who's been there.