Sunday, September 27, 2015

YouTube video from Counter Arguments explains why America is a secular nation and not a Christian one.

Ya gotta love it when Sarah Palin is used to demonstrate the wrong side of an argument.

As you can see the video is ten minutes long, but it is ten minutes well spent in complete undermining the argument from the Religious Right that this country was based on Christianity and therefore laws must be based on the Bible.

This is one of the videos that you favorite and send to that obnoxious family member who simply cannot accept the fact that the country they live in was not based on the teachings of the religion they practice.

(H/T to the Friendly Atheist.)


  1. Anonymous4:19 AM

    American is a nation of many religions, and atheists. We cannot be classified as a Christian nation, nor can we be classified as a secular nation.
    Many races, creeds, nationalities and religions make up America.
    We are a melting pot of many religions, and many races.

    1. Anonymous6:20 AM

      "nor can we be classified as a secular nation". Seriously, did you just watch the same video? We are not talking about who lives here, we are talking about what laws govern. It is by default a secular system of laws.

    2. Anonymous6:26 AM

      The very definition of a secular nation. There may be many religions, and also no religions. Therefore, the state is separate from the dominance of one religion over another. The rule of law governs us.

    3. Anonymous8:12 AM

      If only LAWS here are applied equal and JUSTIFIED, but that would mean that Americans see each other as just that "EQUAL"...IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN..

  2. Anonymous4:22 AM

    Oh yeah, we also have agnostics.

    But me personally, I am a follower of Christ.

  3. Anonymous5:05 AM

    Jesse ~ that last line should read, "That they PROFESS to practice"! Hee

  4. Anonymous5:39 AM

    We are a White Christian Nation and we need people like Sarah Palin to run for POTUS.

    1. Anonymous6:04 AM

      LOL! Great snark!

    2. Anonymous6:07 AM

      I hope you're being sarcastic her @ 5:39.

      I'm sure you must realize as even most of the Palinbots, and $arah worshipers now finally do that there is less than ZERO FUCKING chance that Caribou Barbie will be President.

      She has only FOUR DAYS left to pay $40,000 to the state of South Carolina to get on the ballot, and I'm sure that Granny Grifter would rather spend that on botox, fake tits, and ass padding

    3. Anonymous6:21 AM

      I hope your tongue is firmly planted in cheek.

    4. Anonymous6:47 AM

      Isn't it sad that people have become so extreme these days that you can't always tell if something is snark or serious?

    5. Anonymous2:46 PM

      5:39 you again? We were a Brown country when we were invaded. We are Still a Brown nation,now. Get over it,alicia.

  5. Anonymous6:32 AM

    I just saw a post on Facebook that made my blood boil!

    It talked about how the US Dep't of Agriculture is proud of feeding over 46 million people each year through assistance programs like food stamps. It then compares that to the National Park Service posting signs telling people not to feed the animals because they will grow dependent on handouts and never learn to care for themselves.

    So, I guess they feel that if we allow a 3-year-old elk to die of starvation then we should also allow a 3-year-old child to do the same because s/he can't fend for themselves.

    And these are the same f*****g people who claim that we're a Christian nation!!!

    1. Anonymous6:51 AM

      After writing the above comment, I was still so furious that I went back and commented on the FB post. When I see things like that I usually just delete them and block their sources, but this one really pissed me off. The person who shared it on her page will probably unfriend me...but if she really agrees with that point of view, that's just fine with me!

    2. Anonymous9:59 AM

      Who needs her?

    3. Anonymous10:01 AM

      ..with friends like these..and seriously, who cares if some moron on Facebook unfriends you? that social site is retarded.

    4. Anonymous11:47 AM

      I've reconnected with some old friends and colleagues through Facebook, and even with my best friend from childhood, so I appreciate what those kind of social media sites can do.

      I do feel it's important to hear the other side of the argument, but sometimes I just have to respond and offer another (sensible, intelligent) point of view. On occasion, I've actually been able to debunk some rightwing lies and open other people's minds to the truth, so maybe it's worth the effort to speak up.

    5. Anonymous2:05 PM

      There's a difference. If we feed the wild animals that's when and why they die. If we DON'T feed the children that's when and why they die.

  6. Anonymous8:44 AM

    Great video, thanks for posting Gryphen.

  7. Anonymous8:52 AM

    When $arah and her family start exhibiting true Christian principles in their lives, then she can bitch about President Obama and others. Ain't gonna happen...they are the furthest from it and hypocrites to the max.

  8. Boscoe9:37 AM

    When I was a kid in elementary school, there was never any question that the founders had created a secular government. There was no controversy, no claims of "political correctness", it was simply FACT.

    It is only logical that in order to protect EVERYONE'S right to their chosen religion, the government had to be NEUTRAL. Anyone with half a brain cell should be able to grasp that.

    SO it makes complete sense that Palin and O'Reilly don't grasp it...

    1. Anonymous10:04 AM

      Exactly, and why President Obama is correct in remaining silent. He is a president of the PEOPLE and should remain that way regardless of personal beliefs.

      Shove it, $arah, if you think you know so damn much then throw your hat in the ring. We all know you can't and the reasons behind it.

  9. Anonymous10:02 AM

    Great vid. Too bad 10 minutes is too long for a right wing christian to sit through. They're much too busy, what with making illiterate signs, posting BS memes, and trying to find that one cousin that they haven't slept with yet.

    1. Great even-tempered vid. I wish SP and all the godbotherers could be forced to watch it over and over and over to maybe impress on them how wrong they are.
      How would they depend their positions after it?
      They would just say, "Well, that's YOUR opinion."

  10. Anonymous3:51 PM

    Any video that uses Sarah as a barometer of untruth is well wort\h ten minutes. Three seconds of Curley make up for Pinhead Palin and Billo.


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