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Hard to believe this is still happening in this day and age, but there you have it.
Things will not change unless people stand up and force them to change.
Sunday, October 25, 2015
Handed out in a public elementary school in the Ohio.
Hard to believe this is still happening in this day and age, but there you have it.
Things will not change unless people stand up and force them to change.
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I don't see a problem with handing these out in school. It is clearly indicated that the source is a church, not the school.
ReplyDeleteBut churches should not be handing stuff out at public schools.
DeleteBeaglemom
Or condoms. Or non-Christian groups. Or atheists. Or McDonald's. Or Wal-Mart. Or whatever. Anything goes as long as the source is indicated?
DeleteWould you be okay if the pamphlets were from a local mosque? Or a group that worships Satan? Or a group that practices Wiccan?
DeleteReligious materials are NOT acceptable in public school, regardless of where they come from or who hands them out.
Bahaha!
Deletehttp://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/02/10/after-satanists-planned-to-give-away-coloring-books-florida-school-board-votes-to-end-all-religious-distributions/
"Worried about facing national ridicule if a Satanic group is allowed to give out coloring books to children, the Orange County School Board moved Thursday toward preventing any outside group from distributing religious materials on campus.
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The board discussed the issue during a workshop Thursday. The earliest it could vote to change the policy would be late January or early February, officials said.
“This really has, frankly, gotten out of hand,” said chairman Bill Sublette. “I think we’ve seen a group or groups take advantage of the open forum we’ve had.”"
What about tickets for discount on pizza? Why limit only religious material?
DeleteCome on, Sandra. Religion is given special mention in the constitution for a reason. I think you know that.
DeleteSo, Sandra, if the local Catholic Church hangs a giant painting of a bleeding Jesus on the cross in the entryway of a public school, it's perfectly fine as long at they clearly show that the source is the church and not the school?
Delete"...it's perfectly fine as long at they clearly show that the source is the church and not the school?"
DeleteNot in my book. The first time I ever set foot in a Catholic-run hospital I felt as though I was being preached at because of all the iconography. It is not a good feeling.
Not in my book, either, but apparently in Sandra's book it's ok.
DeletePisses me off. I hope the Freedom From Religion organization goes after them with a vengeance.
ReplyDeleteImagine how the children who are NOT Christian feel.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking as a kid who was one of only two Jewish kids in a public school filled with Catholics and Protestants, I can tell you it feels awkward and uncomfortable and just plain wrong.
DeleteWhat they don't teach in Sunday school: apples were mostly used to make hard cider, the cheapest and most available liquor in colonial days. Hence the popularity of John Chapman.
ReplyDeleteAnd I hope that makes a comeback. Fantastic hard cider in Dublin, not so much here.
DeleteChurches having access to children in public school is like shooting fish in a barrel, a captive audience of the most impressionable.
ReplyDeleteThe only way to fight crap like this is get synagogues and mosques etc. to make similar flyers and ask if they can hand out similar handouts in schools.
ReplyDeleteJust like the businesses that OK the hanging of calendars with the sexy nearly naked girls. Ladies, just put up a similar beefcake calendar (remembering it needs to be equally revealing!), and see how fast your boss will only allow stock Office Depot or Grumpy Cat calendars in all spaces used regularly by customers and staff ...
Perfect response, thank you.
DeleteI hope Lucien Greaves gets involved. He scares the bejeezus out of the fundies.
DeleteOhio. This was handed out in Ohio. (Unless an Ohio church is sending pamphlets to schools in the South for some strange reason). That makes it even scarier.
ReplyDeleteBecause ... Jeebus!
ReplyDeleteOutrage against the ridiculousness of this sort of thing gave birth to the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
"Southern"? The only state I saw mentioned on that is Indiana. Where folks at Notre Dame invited my friend from AL to come talk about the KKK, not realizing that they were within shouting distance of the Indiana KKK headquarters.
ReplyDeleteThis born and bred Alabamian is surely willing to admit to awfulness from the South. But please don't point a finger at the South when awfulness happens elsewhere. As it does regularly.
Actually upon further inspection, it turns out that it is in Ohio,
DeleteI apologize for my assumption, and I have corrected the post.
Thank you, Gryphen! "Southern" is so often used as shorthand for "stupid" and "racist." No doubt I'm hypersensitive.
DeleteWhile I agree this should not happen in public schools, parents who have raised their children correctly should not be too concerned that their children would be subject to religious brainwashing.
ReplyDeleteSo there must be some school policy about what can be handed out at school. What about charities? Should the schools hand out literature about cancer awareness? Could there just be a stack by the door for the kids to pick up if they want? Do they have to take them?
ReplyDeleteThe government should not endorse any religion, even passively.
DeleteI'm trying to figure out why you are trying to find a way to make this ok.
Religious groups should neither advertise nor recruit in public schools. Period.
DeleteI was one Jewish kid among 200 Catholic and Protestant graduating night school senior.
ReplyDeleteTry to imagine how I felt when a priest stood in front of us at the beginning of our PUBLIC SCHOOL ceremony and told us to bow our heads to give thanks to Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. No big deal, you might say. I didn't have to how my head or pray of give thanks and it was only a few moments out of a my life. But this was MY graduation day as much as any kid who sat in black robes and caps and my school had no right to make Christianity (or any religion) part of that ceremony.
That was nearly 30 years ago, and I still get pissed off when I think about it (which is only when stories like this are in the news).
Absolutely par for the course here in Ohio! Our local public grade school k-6, 400 kids...has each class pray ""God is great, God is good....." before going to cafeteria; sing "May the good Lord bless you....." to the tune of Happy Birthday to each birthday child; and have ultra religious plays at Christmas and Easter. A call to Principal and then Superindent yields "you are the only one to complain..every else thinks it is great."
ReplyDeleteWow. We are outside Cincinnati and our school district while horribly conservative would never try that shit. Pitchforks and torches would ensue.
DeleteFirst off,they can't spell. useds?
ReplyDeleteObviously school officials in Ohio are very lax.
ReplyDeleteIn our district nothing gets handed out without being vetted and approved by the school office. In some cases it must be approved by the district office first.
This would never be handed out in our district.
When I worked a middle school library I actually had these folks show up to donate books to the library. I'd read them first. Many ended up in the discard for recycling. The Scientology people come immediately to mind.
If these "newspapers" got handed out in a public elementary school, someone wasn't doing their job.
As a classroom teacher, sometimes I didn't even hand out stuff approved by the office because it was political pro-district stuff during contract negotiations.