Friday, October 02, 2015

Our President is fed up with all of these shootings in America. Update!

Courtesy of the Daily Beast:

An outraged President Obama did not try to comfort the nation after its latest mass murder—this time at Umpqua Community College in Oregon on Thursday—but instead admonished it for not fighting gun violence. 

“Our thoughts and prayers are not enough. It does nothing to prevent this carnage from being inflicted somewhere else in America—next week or a couple of months from now,” he said. 

Obama went further, likening what Americans do to each other with guns to what terrorists do. 

“Have news organizations tally up the number of Americans killed who’ve been killed through terrorist attacks through the last decade and the number of Americans killed by gun violence, and post those side-by-side in your news reports,” he admonished the press. 

“This a political choice we make to allow this to happen every few months in America. We are collectively answerable to those families, who lose their loved ones, because of our inaction.” 

Obama said the nation wages war on the threat of terrorism but stands idly by while Americans murder each other by the thousands every year. 

“We spend over a trillion dollars and pass countless laws and devote entire agencies to preventing terrorist attacks on our soil, and rightfully so,” he said. “And yet we have a Congress that explicitly blocks us from even collecting data on how we could potentially reduce gun deaths.” 

Obama welcomed pundits and critics who he said would accuse him of “politicizing” the latest tragedy.

I watched this yesterday and all I could think is that the President looked exhausted by all of this.

And angry.

Very angry.

And who could blame him.

After all there have only been 274 days in this year and 294 shootings involving four or more victims.

The President is presiding over a nation of savages.

And there seems to be no end in sight to their savagery

Update: The President challenged the media to compare the deaths by terrorism in this country to deaths attributed to gun violence.

Vox is just one of the outlets which accepted that challenge: 

More than 10,000 Americans are killed every year by gun violence. By contrast, so few Americans have been killed by terrorist attacks since 9/11 that when you chart the two together, the terrorism death count approximates zero for every year except 2001. 

Not exactly surprising right?

Both sad and frightening, but not surprising.

50 comments:

  1. Anonymous9:20 AM

    I got home from work just in time to watch his speech and, yes, he was angry but I was proud of his words and that he said he would keep repeating and repeating them.

    Vice President Biden just sounded so sad, and no wonder considering the losses he has endured. I could not find a video, but here are his words:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-gave-intensely-personal-232932514.html;_ylt=AwrSbDnFug5WmgUAnzdXNyoA

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  2. When will this madness stop? We have become so accustomed to these senseless tragedies that it's like we're mourning victims of natural disasters. People from around the globe just shake their heads in amazement at our gun loving culture. When will we wake up and demand that common sense gun legislation be passed?

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  3. Anonymous9:37 AM

    Wow. This is the man I proudly voted for twice. Thank you Mr President.

    I've been saying the same kind of thing for years. There was one instance of a man trying to get on a plane with a shoe bomb some ten years ago. And ever since then, to keep us safer, we all have to remove our shoes and have them checked before we get on a plane

    Meanwhile these mass shootings happen over and over and OVER AGAIN, but our lawmakers refuse to even discuss taking measures to restrict guns. It's unbelievable

    I have to also say conservatives disgust me. I have seen more than one online comment saying something like "Wait. This school had signs saying it was a gun free zone. Why didn't that stop this guy? Yuk yuk yuk"

    Sometimes I hate the internet. It has given revolting people the "courage" to anonymously say something vile like that...something they'd never say to anyone's face because they'd likely get punched in the mouth.

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    1. TwoBlueJays11:37 AM

      I wish Jesse had a hug button because I would hug your post all day long. Your last paragraph is spot on. Thank you.

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    2. Anonymous11:52 AM

      I actually heard reporting that there were armed people on campus

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    3. Anonymous2:19 PM

      Anonymous9:37 AM
      YES!
      Right away after the shooting the meme was "Oh the Left and the Demcrats and their Gun free Zones killed these kids" and BEN CARSON, was mentioned. I saw it at least 4 times same message. EXCEPT this wasn't a gun free zone!
      Then I saw someone put out the meme he hated whites and was a BFF of #BLM. Not once sympathy sorrow sadness for lives lost just live for their precious guns.
      I hate conservatives too!
      Didn't GWB ban Assault weapons? That should be firest order of business, a death tax should be put on bullets, and also manatory insurance. Why don't we as the left do the same crap they do to us with PP? Death tax on bullets. Insurance, geese can you imagine congress trying to appease their precious ins co like with obamacare?
      President Obama all but said the Congress is bought and paid for by the NRA!

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  4. Leland9:43 AM

    Susie, that will possibly happen AFTER we get rid of all those accepting the largess of the NRA and groups like it.

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  5. Anonymous9:49 AM

    Until someone goes and shoots some congressmen, nothing will change, if even then. They are all beholden to the NRA and prove they are big tough guys by bragging about hunting. They all make me sick.

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    1. Crystal Sage10:30 AM

      Hello? Have you forgotten about Gabby Giffords? When the local sheriff in Oregon, who has been staunchly against any gun control, refuses to discuss the issue, saying "It's not the right time," and gets away with it, then we are a long way from any kind of sensible gun control. Of course, we all heard this excuse before and then, when the furor dies down, nothing gets done.

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    2. Anonymous11:47 AM

      No, I did not forget about Ms. GIffords. If some Republicans got it, then they may change, but I doubt it. They can't wait to kiss the NRA's ass day and night. Nothing will get done with the idiot Republicans/tea party jerkoffs screaming about their gun rights nonstop. So sick of them and their nonsense.

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  6. Anonymous9:50 AM

    See what the sheriff said, Gryph?
    OMG......

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/john-hanlin-gun-control-constitutional

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    1. Anonymous10:39 AM

      Hamlin, the Douglas county sheriff belongs to that organization CSPOA, Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association. It was founded by Richard Mack, who sits on the board of the Oath Keepers. Mack is the guy who put women and children between federal agents and the gun nuts supporting Cliven Bundy because it would make good press if a woman or child got shot. Sheriffs who belong to that group have sworn not to enforce gun control laws that they think are unconstitutional. Even if courts say they are.

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    2. Anonymous10:39 AM

      Letter to Vice President Biden. WOW! just after SandyHook..TRUE COLORS...

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    3. Anonymous10:44 AM

      Did he shoot himself in the foot? or just put his foot in his mouth? Can you say "Oink"?

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    4. Anonymous11:01 AM

      Did he shoot himself in the foot? or just put his foot in his mouth? Can you say "Oink"?

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    5. Anonymous3:10 PM

      More about what this [ig is involved with.
      http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/john-hanlin-sandy-hook-truther

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  7. What is so infuriating are the awful, terrible, barely humanoid right wingers who have the unmitigated gall to point at the President and claim that he does not love this country and its people.

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  8. Anonymous10:13 AM

    POPE would have been better to address this issue. Instead he addressed this bitch.
    http://insidethevatican.com/news/letter-38-2015-kim-and-francis

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  9. Anonymous10:23 AM

    Let's speculate and take the two opposing views on the issue to their extremes: first, let's get rid of all gun regulations and give everybody a gun at birth, to carry anywhere, to do anything with it. Now the other extreme. Let's get rid of all the guns in this country and legislate the issue 'to death' (sorry). Which scenario would result in more deaths?

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  10. Anonymous10:35 AM

    I remember after the Columbine massacre schools across the nation banned students from wearing long black trench coats - as if the black trench coat was the cause of all those children being murdered. It sickens me that so many people have been brainwashed by the rhetoric put out by the NRA. I wish journalists would start asking Republican politicians WHY they think the United States is the only country that has these mass shootings. Like President Obama said, mental illness is in other countries as well.

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  11. Anonymous10:38 AM

    I'm sick to death of the NRA and our Republican majority in the House of the U.S. Congress!

    They are a bunch of assholes and should be ashamed of themselves. They could care less about the American people! To them it is all about power, control and becoming rich!

    I suspect many of them (Republicans0 will NOT be reelected next go around. Many of them have been in office WAY too long hence tenures should be established shortening their terms.

    They are the LEAST American of all of us!

    Thank you, President Obama! You have been an outstanding POTUS and will go down in history for the many positive things you have accomplished.

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    1. Anonymous11:14 AM

      Sandy Hook should have been the last straw.
      Instead, LaPierre and Congress dug their feet in deeper.
      I truly dread the day that President Obama leaves office.

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    2. Anonymous12:05 PM

      @11:14 -

      These fuckers couldn't even work up a crocodile tear for those poor babies, and then they had the gall to say the President was faking his tears after the shooting, when it was obvious that he was struggling not to break down and just weep his heart out. Any parent with a soul cried that day, but right wingers really showed what monsters they are. These people are fucking demonic.

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  12. Anonymous10:43 AM

    Preceding this shooting a person voiced their concern to me about a woman about to file for divorce from her abusive and violent spouse. The valid concern he would physically harm her was intensified by the fact that he recently bought a lot more guns. He bought many alleging Obama was going to take something away.

    IMO anyone found guilty of domestic violence, sent to Anger Management should not be allowed to keep their guns or buy an arsenal of guns. I firmly believe stronger laws and restrictions would curtail violence and massacres just as consequences for DUI led to fewer people drinking and driving.

    It might deter planned violence if people who knew were punished as conspirators for not reporting a plot to murder people. The gun lovers act like they condone these slayings by digging in their heels and buying more guns as if to prove their point.

    It is tragic mentally unstable people even blame Obama for hoarding weapons while beating their spouse, kids and punching holes in the walls abusing substances. It is revealing when a man or women believes death be the consequence of escaping their tyranny or random school children be murdered symbolically.

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  13. Anonymous10:52 AM

    Check this out from Margaret and Helen:http://margaretandhelen.com/2015/10/02/i-am-pretty-sure-republicans-would-be-fine-with-abortion-if-a-gun-were-involved/

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  14. Frosty10:59 AM

    Time to officially declare the NRA a domestic terror organization.

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  15. Anonymous11:01 AM

    I love feisty Margaret and Helen!

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  16. Anonymous11:02 AM

    most of the pro gun folks will say you need more guns, everyone needs to be packing. the only way to feel safe is if you are better armed than everyone around you.
    i for one, am glad i don't have to live like that.
    the country has become so entrenched in the gun mentality for so long, there is no going backwards. now they just have to live with it.
    sad.

    bill in belize

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  17. Anonymous11:06 AM

    California has a restraining order to remove guns from anyone suspected of intending to harm someone.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/10/01/umpqua-oregon-harper-mercer-shooting-community-college-column/73174568/

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  18. Anonymous11:43 AM

    Obama: "Let's spend more money on education than we do no prisons." Yes We can!
    Hillary/O'Malley 2016

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  19. Anonymous11:44 AM

    We needs laws that would hold a person responsible (liable) if they knowingly allow a mentally disturbed person to access guns.
    66gardeners

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    1. Anonymous12:00 PM

      Agreed. I just heard the Oregon shooter's grandmother bought him a gun. Did she want him to end his life or buy him something he wanted. An intelligent person would have the guns removed not buy another .

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    2. Anonymous1:28 PM

      His mother blogged about being extremely pro-gun and instilled the love of guns into her son. I see a pattern here?
      66gardeners

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  20. Anonymous11:45 AM

    How many people here are tired of hearing people say, "now is not the time" to speak about this when another event occurs before the conversation every happens.
    66gardeners

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    1. Anonymous12:53 PM

      The problem is, there are so many mass shootings these days that, by the time the news reporters have left the site of one, another one happens.

      You no sooner stop talking about one incident when another takes place. It's very convenient for those gun maniacs who just don't want to discuss the subject at all since they can simply just keep putting off the conversation.

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  21. Anonymous11:47 AM

    Sarah Retard Palin did you read the UPDATE for this post or do you need someone to read it and explain it to your dumbass.

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  22. Anonymous11:59 AM

    Sarah said that she and Todd are blessed because none of their children will ever be shot on a college campus.

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    1. Anonymous12:43 PM

      You're joking I know.
      Perhaps not on a college campus, but how about a movie theatre or a bar or a sports event or church (nah, they'll never be in one of those either).

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  23. Anonymous12:02 PM

    If prayers actually did work, you would never hear right wing, revengelical christian gun nuts asking for them nor providing them. They are certifiable hypocrites. Pray for them.

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  24. Anonymous12:21 PM

    Here is a youtube video of Rep Keith Ellison blasting the gop house over what McCarthy said. This absolutely should be a campaign add. Keith Ellison did not even use a teleprompter for this.
    66gardeners
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOpx2gIHge4

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  25. Anonymous12:24 PM

    Oh, is he? Is our President REALLY fed up with all of these shootings in America? Good to know!

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    1. Anonymous8:16 PM

      FUCK OFF you insensitive excuse for humanity.

      RAinNC

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  26. Anonymous12:32 PM

    Golly, what will $ar-asshole have to say about this little speech.

    God, Jeebus, wants guns, he wants us to cook moose chili, kill them commie bastds, Arabs, and also too Muslins, cuz they is not rill muricans, guns don't hurt no one, dontcha know.

    I would have loved to make every one of the bastard gun loving Palin/Fox news crowd go to the school at Sandy Hook, and walk on the blood soaked floors and see the violence.

    I would have liked to force them to help the medics to triage the living, and lift the poor little children into body bags.

    Even long time state cops apparently broke down and cried when they saw what was in that school.

    Religion is a cancer of the mind.

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  27. Once again, according to a report, decisive religion was involved -- the shooter asked his victims to stand up and tell him their religion before he shot them -- I presume based on their answers, if they didn't tally with his own sick version of religion. What "loving God or preacher" told him he needed to do that? I am sick to the back teeth of religion brainwashing neurotics like him.

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  28. Anonymous1:23 PM

    Jeebus! What'll they think of next to justify more guns?

    http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2015/10/02/lt-gov-ramsey-christians-serious-faith-should-consider-handgun-permits/73203888/


    "Responding to a mass shooting at an Oregon community college that left 10 people dead, Tennessee Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey on Friday encouraged fellow Christians who are serious about their faith to consider getting a gun."

    His facebook post:

    "As I scroll through the news this morning I am saddened to read the details of the horrible tragedy in Oregon. My heart goes out to the citizens of Roseburg -- especially the families and loved ones of those murdered.

    The recent spike in mass shootings across the nation is truly troubling. Whether the perpetrators are motivated by aggressive secularism, jihadist extremism or racial supremacy, their targets remain the same: Christians and defenders of the West.

    While this is not the time for widespread panic, it is a time to prepare. I would encourage my fellow Christians who are serious about their faith to think about getting a handgun carry permit. I have always believed that it is better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.

    Our enemies are armed. We must do likewise."

    Good thing extra guns not needed never cause any harm. Like to the toddlers that find them locked and loaded..

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  29. Anonymous2:10 PM

    He's angry. We should all be angry. This is as sickening as it gets. But as I read somewhere, if a bunch of innocent young children can get blown away and murdered, and nothing changes - nothing ever will.
    We - each and every American - lost a child that day in Sandy Hook.
    I read somewhere today that nothing will change until a politian risks his/her career and stands up to the NRA and the Republicans and pushes for meaningful legislation to put more checks into the system of buying guns. But will a politian do that? Not likely. They would be one term and gone.

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  30. Anonymous2:16 PM

    I am going to say something very controversial, but I dont want people to think that I am endorsing gun violence because I'm not.

    If the guy who Dick Cheney shot had been killed, it is possible we would have better gun control laws today. I'm not saying he was a bad man or that he deserved to get shot. I just think that if someone as politically influential as Cheney was back then accidentally killed something by shooting them on the face, we might have change. Something as serious as killing another personal has to hit very close to home for these NRA whores to stand up and take notice. It's just my opinion.

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    1. Anonymous2:33 PM

      I remember that well. The man that Cheney shot took the blame! Unbelievable. There was a discrepancy over the time when the 'accident' was reported also. People speculated that was so Cheney could get back to where he was staying and get the alcohol out of his system.

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    2. Anonymous8:24 PM

      I seriously doubt it would have made any difference. The "media" would have been falling all over themselves to make excuses, as they did at the time. "Deadeye" Dick seems to be immune to consequences. It would be of great comfort to many people if there was a literal hell. Dick could be consigned to the lowest, hottest rungs and I would not offer him the tiniest drop of water.

      RAinNC

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  31. Anonymous2:34 PM

    Calm down, everyone! Let's not panic until political mastermind JEB! weighs in on this tragedy. Surely the man most likely to 'take our country back' will have a solution to mass shootings and gun violence.

    Wait! He's making a statement right now! Here it is!

    JEB!: "Meh... Stuff happens..."

    Ok, never mind...

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