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Vice President Joe Biden is nearing a decision on if he will enter the presidential race, which could come within 48 hours, two sources tells NBC News.
Biden has been contemplating a presidential run for months and has delayed an announcement beyond supposed timeframes multiple times before. Missing this deadline, of course, could happen again.
In addition to when, the big unknown is what Biden’s decision will be: Is he in our is he out?
Boy and we call Sarah Palin a political prick tease.
Look I don't think that Biden is planning to jump in, but if he does it will mean nothing to the actual outcome of this nomination process.
I can guarantee you that as soon as he announced his candidacy his poll numbers would start to drop, and after the first debate he would simply be another white guy without Hillary's historical significance or Bernie Sanders passion and unsullied political career.
I like Joe Biden, I think most people do, but I did not support his campaign in 2008, and I certainly would not support it now.
I would vote for Joe over Hillary in a heartbeat! Are you KIDDING, Gryphen? Joe has more experience than ANY of the candidates on either side, he's a kind, strong, honest, sincere man who has stood up for women, for gays, for voters in all kinds of ways. How can you post such a cynical and mean spirited thing as this???
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DeleteAgree, if Joe jumped in I see a Biden/Sanders ticket in our future, a ticket that would improve our future rather than sell us out to corporate interests. I'll vote for Hillary if I have to but I'd rather have a sane alternative.
DeleteRun Joe Run! I am all for the VP running, I am on board for him.
DeleteI DO NOT like Hillary.
Meanwhile, more cheating from the Trump camp. So he's turning out to be just like every other slimy, lying, cheating Rethug, isn't he?
ReplyDeleteThe inside story of Trump campaign’s connections to a big-money super PAC
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-inside-story-of-donald-trumps-connections-to-a-big-money-super-pac/2015/10/18/532b61d4-72b5-11e5-8248-98e0f5a2e830_story.html
But The Washington Post reported that Trump's campaign has close ties to the Make America Great Again PAC, which employs a Colorado-based Republican consultant who previously worked with Lewandowski. Anonymous sources told The Post that Mike Cilletti had been a vendor for Americans for Prosperity, the outside conservative group, when Lewandowski worked there prior to joining Trump's campaign.
Lewandowski initially denied to The Post that he knew Ciletti. The campaign manager later admitted that he knew of Ciletti after the newspaper asked him about payments the Trump campaign made to Ciletti's printing and marketing shop, WizBang Solutions.
Lewandowski hung up when pressed for more details about his relationship to Ciletti, according to the report. Ciletti did not respond to The Post's request for comment.
Trump also has appeared at two events for the Make America Great Again PAC, including a "meet-and-greet" at the Jersey Shore estate of Charles and Seryl Kushner, his daughter Ivanka's in-laws, according to the report.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/corey-lewandowski-trump-pac-washington-post
6 things we know Joe Biden is thinking
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/19/5-things-we-know-joe-biden-is-thinking/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b
Joe looks good when you look at the other choices.
ReplyDeleteThe Great Bush-Trump War of October 2015: A Bush weakness exposed
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/19/the-great-bush-trump-war-of-october-2015-a-bush-weakness-exposed/?tid=pm_politics_pop_b
2016 Race Has Changed In Every Way But One: Hillary's Still On Top (but Joe is on the rise)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/2016-presidential-rankings-hillary-clinton_5621561ce4b08589ef47674b
However, this is food for thought:
Democrats are in denial. Their party is actually in deep trouble.
http://www.vox.com/2015/10/19/9565119/democrats-in-deep-trouble
Yes, we should all be reading this one. Very sobering.
Delete"Democrats are in denial. Their party is actually in deep trouble." http://www.vox.com/2015/10/19/9565119/democrats-in-deep-trouble
I strongly disagree with the Vox article. Yes, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz us a major disaster (bring back Dean's 50 state solution!), but the GOP is no longer a cohesive party. They are splitting apart and that goes for their down-ballot governance, too. (By the way: The crazy Gov. of Maine just appointed a creationist to head their state Education!) They are two parties now and no longer function as one.
DeleteI totally agree: Joe Biden's a great guy, but not a contender in 2016. He didn't fire up the electorate when he last ran as a presidential candidate, and he still doesn't.
ReplyDeleteClinton/Sanders in 2016. Clinton for the leader, Sanders and Warren working behind the scenes for great results. Wall Street should be shaking in their boots.
Clinton/Castro will be a LANDSLIDE.
DeleteSanders and Warren are much much more powerfull staying exactly where they are.
I agree with your Clinton/Castro combination. Hillary will need both Sanders and Warren in the Senate.
DeleteI would rather see Clinton/Sanders.
DeleteAbout time we got back to putting also rans in the VP slot rather than rewarding those that wouldn't stick a toe in the water.
Clinton/Sanders or Sanders/Clinton. Either way works for me.
(Sanders won't be in the senate. He's not re-running any more.)
mlaiuppa 4:50 PM
DeleteBiden is more qualified, and more likable than Hillary. He will clean her clock.
Post debate polls:
DeleteClinton 43%
Sanders 33%
Biden 11%
Biden made the correct decision not to run. He'd still be a distant third. Hardly the way to end his career.
All the times Joe Biden was about to decide whether he's running for president
ReplyDeletehttp://www.vox.com/2015/10/19/9567529/biden-decision-timeline
Why it would be really hard for Joe Biden to win the Democratic nomination
http://www.vox.com/2015/8/4/9091043/joe-biden-2016-president
Hillary's people are really running scared, they know VP Biden will beat her, so they are trying to intimidate him into not running.
DeleteThey tried all those disgusting tactics with then-Senator Obama in 2008. Hillary's people are like that. They are desperate, just like they were desperate in 2008.
Anonymous 12:23 PM
DeleteHey, some desperate writer for Vox CANNOT decide if VP Biden can win the nomination.
BIDEN for the WIN!
Gee, I was anxious to hear your opinion on this. Thanks for not disappointing./snark
ReplyDelete99,..98,..97,..96,........ho, mutha fuffin hum.
ReplyDeleteThis is one train you missed, Joe, let her stay that way.
We still love ya, really do, but just go home enjoy your family, you've done quite enough for your country, 45 yrs is enough for anyone to put in, most would say too much.
Thanx again, Joe. Love you long time, Joe.
Or, as Lewis Carrol wrote:
ReplyDeleteSee how eagerly the lobsters and the turtles all advance!
They are waiting on the shingle – will you come and join the dance?
Will you, won't you, will you, won't you, will you join the dance?
Will you, won't you, will you, won't you, won't you join the dance?
Political prick tease? And comparing Biden and his decision to Palin. Gimme a break Gryph, not only is that isulting to Biden, but it also shows you are just sweating the reality that Biden will jump in and ruin your Oedipus complex dream of having Hillary be the first female president.
ReplyDeleteIt also shows how all over the map you are, sometimes it seems as if you might be a little bi-polar. You are saying a Biden campaign would just be 'another white guy without Hillary's historical significance or Bernie Sanders passion', yet not too long ago you wrote:
"Okay first off let me just say that if Biden was to jump into the race and announce that he and Warren were going to share the ticket that this whole thing is over.
Hillary might as well call it quits and the Republicans can go right ahead and pool their campaign money now to hire a hitman to take Trump out for fucking up their chances of getting their messages out.
I know that may sound harsh, but face it Joe is much more likable as a candidate than Hillary, and Elizabeth has the liberal cred."
The only thing you were wrong about is that Biden does not need Warren to win.
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2015/08/joe-biden-meets-with-elizabeth-warren.html
Well thank you for memorizing my past posts, but the key to my point in that particular one was the inclusion of Warren, not Biden on his own.
DeleteI also think that if Bernie Sanders could convince Warren to share the ticket that Hillary would be in serious trouble as well.
You are welcome. I don't exactly memorize anything though, I have a bit of a photographic memory... It is kind of 'just there' to access like a document in a file.
DeleteIt is more of a burden than anything else, too much information over a lifetime. But there are some useful byproducts, like being able to assess outcomes of future events with a certain degree of accuracy- of course not always. I'll leave it at this, if Joe enters the race, all bets are off, and Hillary's baggage is only going to grow as time progresses.
Gryphen, Joe is the one who met privately with Warren, not Sanders.
DeleteAgreed 12:29. Bipolar is a good description. Sarah Palin is not fit to wipe Joe Biden's butt.
DeleteAnonymous2:48 PM
DeleteAgreed 12:29. Bipolar is a good description. Sarah Palin is not fit to wipe Joe Biden's butt.
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Biden would be a great candidate. So are others. What's wrong with having more than one ot two great candidates?
ReplyDeleteDiversity and choice is good as we listen to debates and prepare for the primaries. Sometimes what a less popular candidate says can push the positions of the front runners in a positive direction.
First of all, Gryphen, it isn't JOE HIMSELF who is teasing anything, as opposed to the Skank. It is those who WANT Joe to run that are floating these statements. For you to call Joe that despicable name is despicable on your part.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, Joe is the ONLY one who would even remotely continue Obama's policies. Hillary the faux Democrat, wrapped in Republican attitudes, has already turned against Obama and distanced herself from some of Obama's primary accomplishments, INCLUDING Obamacare.
Joe may or may not garner your respect, but he damn well deserves it. Obama chose him for a reason and he has continued to stand behind him, beside him and sung his praises every chance he gets. If you believe in Obama, which you SAY you do, then you are being disingenuous to go after Joe like you just did.
ESPECIALLY with a gay daughter and all that Joe has done to stand up for her community.
Did you watch the debate? Much of what you just wrote simply isn't true.
Delete>>Much of what you just wrote simply isn't true.
DeleteDo your damn homework before calling someone a liar!
Hillary Clinton breaks with Obama, threatens war to enforce Iran deal
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/9/hillary-clinton-threatens-war-enforce-iran-deal/?page=all
In a Break With Obama, Hillary Clinton Backs No-Fly Zone in Syria
https://news.vice.com/article/in-a-break-with-obama-hillary-clinton-backs-no-fly-zone-in-syria
Hillary Clinton crossed a political Rubicon by announcing she supports a partial repeal of Obamacare, openly distancing herself from what is far and away the marquee domestic policy initiative of the sitting president. The move will bolster Clinton's support from big labor unions, a critical part of the Democratic Party establishment -- but with it she also risks alienating the President and losing the votes of Obama supporters concerned about protecting his legacy.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-just-made-major-212042766.html
Hillary Clinton breaks with Obama on trade deal
http://www.bayoubuzz.com/politics/us-politics/item/1023534-hillary-clinton-breaks-with-obama-on-trade-deal
https://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&btnG=Search&q=Hillary+vs+obama+in+2015#q=hillary+breaks+with+obama
you just listed a few issues, but in the debate she supported him on many issues. why should she agree with him on every single thing.
Deletealso, wth is your problem? i didn't call you a liar. you are so hostile. chill!!! i asked you if you watched the debate!?
Hillary is two faced. She should run on the Republican ticket.
DeleteI want a REAL Democrat to run for president. VP Biden, Sanders, Chafee, O'Malley any one of those will do.
Anonymous1:41 PM
DeleteHillary will LOSE any support she might have had from labor unions if she attacks any part of Obamacare (The Affordable Care Act). Because the unions are all for Obamacare (The Affordable Care Act).
I am part of one of the biggest unions in the country, I know what I am talking about.
Americans are tired of war, and Hillary is acting like a rightwing warmonger by threatening Iran. In 2008 when she threatened Iran, she lost a lot of support.
Biden must run, Hillary is too far to the right.
Anonymous 1:41 PM
DeleteFor as Democratic presidential candidate to be attacking a sitting Democratic President policies is just disgusting THIS is one of the main reasons I dislike Hillary.
President Obama is so kind and such a nice guy he would never do that to her. And to think, he gave her ungrateful two faced @ss a job as Sec of State. He did not have to do that.
If Today’s Republican Party Were to Come Up With A Good Idea, It Would Die of Loneliness
ReplyDelete...Like it or not, Obama is a highly popular President as are Former Presidents Clinton and Carter. Meanwhile both Bush’s are as lost as last year’s Easter egg.
The Republicans can go on believing that we don’t want a continuation of Obama’s policies, but from where I sit that dog just don’t hunt. Why in the hell are we trying to find a Democrat who can work with Republicans when even Republicans can’t work with Republicans. That whole damn party is so useless if they actually could come up with a good idea, it would die of loneliness.
And I really, really wish CNN would point that out every time they have another delusional Republican spokesperson on as an expert. I mean it. Really.
http://margaretandhelen.com/2015/10/19/that-republican-dog-just-dont-hunt/
The problem is that virtually every poll shows Hillary losing in a matchup with every Republican from Trump to Rubio to Fiorina. THAT is why Joe Biden is being pressured to enter the race. We cannot afford to lose the While House and see everything that Obama has accomplished destroyed, with interest. The polls show that Biden would beat all the Republican candidates. I wish he were younger and more liberal, but he's the best we have, God help us. Otherwise we get President Trump or Sleazy Rubio.
ReplyDelete4 Supreme Court Justices may be be replaced this next presidential term. I don't care if it's Hillary, Bernie or Joe, we need a Dem in the Whitehouse to put sane and fair Justices in place for the foreseeable future.
DeleteHillary does not act like a Democrat. I do NOT want her to run on thenDemocratic ticket.
DeleteI'm sick and tired of this 'hide and seek' thing with Biden. The media started the entire thing and I'm sure he knows he would lose if he ran against Hillary Clinton.
ReplyDeleteHe's been a good VP to President Obama and that should be his final legacy. Another defeat in running for POTUS should not be played by him!
Biden would win against Hillary. Hillary has too much bagged. Biden would mop the floor with her.
DeleteI DO NOT want her as the nominee for the Democratic party.
‘Call off your f- -king dogs!’ Hillary rages to Obama
ReplyDeletehttp://nypost.com/2015/09/23/hillary-told-obama-to-call-off-his-f-king-dogs-involved-in-email-probe-new-book-says/
You are seriously going to throw a book by Edward Klein into the discussion?
DeleteThat sound you hear is your credibility skulking away in shame.
Kind of like a book by a once respected author being named in which he sites badly sourced, generalized claims that made him look stupid and deserving of worst person of the year title. Sorry joe I still like you. But I personally know what are lies in your book.
Delete1:45-- bullshit.
Delete1:45 I hope you're not talking about Joe McGinnis because he is a hero.
DeleteJoeeeee, nooooo. You were hidden in 2008 for a reason.
ReplyDeleteDemocrats should have one goal only--electing a Democrat. The typical hand wringing by Dems is already starting. I don't know. I'm not sure. Hillary bothers me. Joe is nice. Bernie says some things I like but he's not electable. I may stay home. That way I can continue being disappointed.
ReplyDeleteThe only worry among Republicans is wondering whether or not their candidate will be sleazy enough.
I want an ass kicking Democrat who isn't afraid to stand up for liberal ideas. Republicans will never like Democrats. Get over it and elect someone who will on their ground.
The Grand Old Party is counting on your apathy.
DeleteTo: TC1:49 PM:
DeleteDemocrats like you are the reason Repubs keep winning office. Repubs just love people like you.
My understanding is that Biden is running to prevent another Clinton in the White House. I think that is also why Bernie is running, too. Were Clinton to get elected, we'd have more gridlock. Bernie appeals to some repubs. Biden may, too. Hillary? Not so much.
ReplyDeleteThere is no Democrat who appeals to any of today's Republicans.
Deletehttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=Republicans+for+Bernie+Sanders
DeleteObama Approval Rating Skyrockets To Highest Level In Two And A Half Years
ReplyDelete...So much for the mainstream media narrative that Democrats might be in trouble in 2016 because of Obama’s approval rating. The other big takeaway from this poll is that the catastrophic dysfunction among House Republicans is not going unnoticed by the American people.
Republicans have finally pushed it so far that a majority of the country has noticed that they are completely dysfunctional.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/19/republican-attacks-backfire-bernie-sanders-leads-tied-carson-trump.html
Republican Attacks Backfire As Bernie Sanders Leads Or Is Tied With Carson and Trump
A new CNN/ORC poll has found that Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders leads Donald Trump by 9 points and is statistically tied with Ben Carson in potential general election matchups.
According to the CNN poll that was released today, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) runs very well against the top two Republican presidential candidates. Sanders leads Donald Trump 53%-44%, and he trails Ben Carson 48%-46%. The two point difference between Carson and Sanders falls within the poll’s three-point margin of error.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/19/republican-attacks-backfire-bernie-sanders-leads-tied-carson-trump.html
I am for Hillary. She is getting blasted . It will all make her
ReplyDeleteeven stronger. She won't cave.
Gryphen. I cannot get you on Yahoo.com any more.
I know you are working on the problem . Hope they wise up soon . You are a" ROCK STAR."
What does that mean to "not get him on Yahoo"? Don't you just go to his blogspot?
DeleteHillary has too much negative baggage, and she is not loyal.
DeleteSources Tell Fox’s Ed Henry Joe Biden Expected to Run For President
ReplyDeletehttp://www.fox5ny.com/news/36071935-story
Just as Biden May Join Dem Race, Jim Webb May Be Leaving It for Independent Bid
ReplyDeletehttp://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jim-webb-independent-run-presidency-campaign/story?id=34583347
Joe Biden "will not be bullied" by Clinton campaign into deciding on run
ReplyDelete...In an ideal world, he would keep the option to run open for as long as possible without jumping in, while continuing to watch for any further legal or political fallout for Clinton over her private email server. The vice president realizes he can't wait forever, one source says, but Biden is comfortable waiting another few weeks if that's what it takes for him to be sure.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-will-not-be-bullied-by-clinton-campaign-into-deciding-on-run/
There are deadlines in each state to register for their primaries, aren't there. All we have to do is wait out the clock and it will become clear exactly who is running and who isn't. BTW, Bill Clinton declared in November...and this is only October.
ReplyDeletePuhleeze! Sarah Palin is no Joe Biden! Not even close. Shame on you Gryphen for making such a horrible comparison.
ReplyDeletenonymous4:33 PM
DeletePuhleeze! Sarah Palin is no Joe Biden! Not even close. Shame on you Gryphen for making such a horrible comparison.
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Insulting comments made against Biden like that is because Hillary supporters are running scared. They know VP Biden will win beat her, just like then-Senator Obama beat her.
I'll say it again.
ReplyDeleteToo late. Don't bother.
It's between Clinton and Sanders now. Biden will only come in a distant third.
mlaiuppa4:46 PM
DeleteYou people are really afraid of Biden, aren't you. Because you know Hillary will know stand a chance if he gets in the race.
Sorry, but no. This has nothing to do with fear. It has everything to do with observation and human nature.
DeleteBiden is a nice guy. And he's gained some experience as VP.
But he just doesn't excite the public. If he was going to run he should have started long before now. If he enters and isn't a distant third then he'll tie or be slightly ahead of Sanders. But I don't see him gaining enough votes to pass her.
He waited too long.
BTW, the GOP machine would have a ball replaying all of his gaffes as political ads against him. He's just not Presidential.
Hi, I am the above senior that turns on the computer, clicks
ReplyDeleteon the yahoo little sign and then I am connected to the internet. So far so good. Then in the line above that says
search, I type in Immoral Minority , and there it all is.
Now here is the problem. All of the old everything is still
there, but the new blog for the day is not. This has been going on for quite some time. Well. I used to be on AOL,
so I go over there and find the Immoral Minority new blog for the day. You youngsters out there, what am I doing wrong.
Come on kids!
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/
DeleteHighlight the above web address, right-click, select Go To http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/
Once there, click whatever it is at the top that indicates 'Bookmark'.
Honestly, buddy, it sounds as if your browser history is taking you to the last page you were on when you last visited IM. If a list appears when you start typing ' theimmoralminority.blogspot.com, be sure to look through it and pick the shortest one .
As i tell all my supported clients: Hope this helps : )
If you end up on an old page, go up to the top and click on the big "Immoral Minority" title at the very top and it will take you to the home page with all of the new posts.
DeleteHey there, Biden just went through the hell of losing a child. After losing more, which never heals. Not cool to compare to Ms. Tundra Entitlement. I've only lost a brother and sister. My son lived by pure luck and refusal to let him die. When this happens, decisions are just not what they used to be. I respect his contemplation. I admire his thoughtfulness. Let us be humans first and politicos seconds.
ReplyDeleteSome people actually despise Joe Biden, He green lighted Clarence Thomas out of committee and authored the criminal justice bill that filled up prisons with non violent black offenders and destroyed families.
ReplyDeleteBlack Lives Matter will highlight this and he will not get the black vote,
Attention sloring Biden is a disgrace.
Biden wouldn't get the black vote? Come on! Who do you think they would vote for instead? Trump? Rubio? Carson?
DeleteOne thing you can count on with black voters is they're smart enough not to vote against their own self-interests. Unlike so many lower and middle class whites.
The best thing for the black population would be stop voting Democratic ticket. They have allowed themselves to be owned and taken for granted by the Democratic party.
Delete9:05,that's just dumb. Repugs would rather see the black population imprisoned or inslaved.
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