Wednesday, October 28, 2015

South Carolina school resource officer who assaulted a female student has been fired.

Courtesy of HuffPo:  

A South Carolina sheriff's deputy seen hurling a student to the ground and then dragging her across the floor in a widely viewed video has been fired, Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said Wednesday. 

Deputy Ben Fields had been on administrative leave since the Monday incident. "Deputy Ben Fields did wrong Monday," Lott said, adding that Fields had been terminated from the department roughly 20 minutes before the noon press announcement.

That is of course gratifying to hear, however Sheriff Lott also added this: 

But even as he announced Fields' firing, Lott appeared to defend the deputy's actions and shift at least some of the blame for the encounter to the student, whom he described as "very disruptive and very disrespectful." 

"We must not lose sight that the whole incident was started by this student," he said.

And see that's where this whole thing goes off the rails.

You see the ONLY way to justify the use of force in this situation would be if the student was endangering herself or others. And that was not the case here.

In yesterday's post a number of commenters pointed out that it appeared the girl struck out at the officer, but after rewatching it several times it seemed obvious to me that she was actually flailing in response to being grabbed and was not consciously aiming punches at the officer.

But here's the thing. Even if she HAD been hitting at him, it is HIS responsibility to remain calm and control the situation without causing harm to the student.

Not only is he the adult in the situation, he is a law enforcement professional specifically trained, according to Sheriff Lott, to work in that environment.

If people cannot recognize that literally EVERYTHING this officer did from the moment that he placed his hands on that child is wrong, then either you are an idiot, a racist, a misogynist, or all three.

As I have shared in the past I work with some VERY, VERY challenging young people in my job.

I have been kicked, bitten, spit at, cursed at, and threatened with grave injury or death more times than I can count.

If you do not think that just for an instant after getting headbutted right in the nose I did not want to pick one up of these little terrorists and slam them against the wall to demonstrate my dominance, than you do not understand that even good people have bad thoughts sometimes.

But I never did that. Not even once.

And the reason I did not do it, is first because it would be wrong, and second because it would cost me my job, and very likely open myself and the business I work for to a lawsuit.

A lawsuit by the way that they would more than likely win.

It takes a very particular kind of person to work with difficult kids, and trust me that is who this officer was there to serve. And it takes specialized training to know how to serve them appropriately.

It was clear from the video, that this officer had the wrong temperament, and that he also did not have adequate training.

By the way the only thing I gleaned from all of those incredibly insensitive comments yesterday calling this child a "bitch," and blaming her, her parents, or society for this incident, instead of the officer, is that you are essentially announcing to the world your ignorance.

And it might be enlightening to all of those who claimed this child was unhurt to learn that such was not the case: 

“She now has a cast on her arm, she has neck and back injuries. She has a Band-Aid on her forehead where she suffered rug burn on her forehead,” Columbia attorney Todd Rutherford told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Wednesday.

For those of you are suspicious of this and think that, much like the person who claims whiplash after getting their bumper tapped, it is an exaggeration for an upcoming lawsuit, you might be right.

However that only once again illustrates why you only put well trained, even tempered police officers in a school setting, if you put any officers there at all.

120 comments:

  1. Anonymous11:39 AM

    Supposing this raging cop did the same thing to his daughter (and she was the same size and age as the victim) on camera?

    That would deserve to be prosecuted as domestic violence or child abuse. This beating by cop deserves to be prosecuted too.

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  2. Anonymous11:44 AM

    Gryphen, that young girl had also lost both her mother and grandmother in the past year and is living in a foster home. She needed to be treated with kid gloves, not assaulted.

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    1. Anonymous2:20 PM

      Hahahahaaa!!

      There has been a miracle.... mother and grandmother are both alive and well, as noted by her attorney!!

      Praise Jeebus!

      Classic!! Suckers!!

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    2. Then why is she in Foster care? Another sob story to bleed our hearts? Or is that a lie too?

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  3. Anonymous11:45 AM

    Thank you for posting this. The comments yesterday made me sick to my stomach. There is something morally wrong with the people who do not understand why this is not acceptable behavior.
    For you and all the people who do their jobs correctly I would like to say Thank you.
    And fwiw, I don't think that this was originally a 'race' thing. I think this man has other issues. I believe that the racists crept out onto the internet afterwards in all their anonymity and showed what is so wrong with this country.

    AmyAnn

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    1. Anonymous12:10 PM

      No, this officer has had multiple complaints from assaulting black people, it is about racism.

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    2. Anonymous1:09 PM

      Maybe you guys should inform his black girlfriend he is a racist.

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    3. Anonymous1:13 PM

      @anon 1:09pm

      How do we know he is not assaulting her?

      BTW according to his police record he is a racist thug, just because he is hitting some brown sugar doesn't mean he isn't racist.

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    4. Not sure what his girlfriend has to do with it. Liking one lack person doesn't impact his opinion of there being 'bad' blacks.

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    5. Anonymous1:27 PM

      Lol 1:13 how does his police record indicate he is racist? The fact that he is white and has to interact and arrest all types of people including black people, because that is his job?

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    6. 1:27PM, He has a history of being aggressive with black students. Seriously, do your homework.

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    7. Anonymous3:28 PM

      Meghan, any links? I tried to do my homework and only came up with a white boy with autism. You seem to have found more than I have. Please share.

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    8. Anonymous7:33 PM

      12:10... a white sheriffs deputy at a 52% black school... yeah it would pretty much be a miracle if he didn't have complaints against him. Doesn't mean any of them are valid or held water. He could be white jesus christ and have complaints against him. Figure it out.

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  4. Anonymous11:46 AM

    When Anonymous releases 1000 names of KKK members, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see this officer's name on that list.

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  5. Anonymous11:48 AM

    I do not recall where I saw this info - today - that this girl recently lost her mother and is an orphan. Has anyone else seen mention of that?

    Pat Padrnos

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    1. Anonymous12:07 PM

      Yes. Shes lost her grandmother and mom in the last yr. Again,why the iron hand on this human being. Would the outcome have been different had she been white?

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    2. Absolutely. If he did eventually lay hands on the white girl it would have been after a lengthy dialog attempting to reason with her.

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    3. Anonymous2:27 PM

      Really meghan, exactly how do you know that?

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    4. Are you really that naive, 2:27? He has a reputation among students and alumni.

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    5. Anonymous2:53 PM

      One of the classmates reportedly commented when the police office entered that others should start recording because this was going to be bad. The guy has a reputation.

      Elizabeth 44

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    6. Anonymous2:56 PM

      That is right meghan, students and alumni that don't like him, probably because they got in trouble and it was his job to deal with it. Big surprise there genius.

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    7. Anonymous3:13 PM

      It is interesting that the school and school board had implemented and worked with the sheriffs department to incorporate officers full time in the school. This is likely because things had gotten so bad that they felt unsafe, and could no longer control the student population without more muscle, law enforcement muscle. Gryph and others talk about all these techniques and psychology etc... yet what do the teacher and then the Vice Principal do (who are both black if I understand correctly) when they could not successfully remove this girl or get control of her using their 'training', they call in the muscle, the badge, for that very reason, for the very reason they have officers in the school. The officer did exactly what he was asked to do, because the black teacher and black Vice Principal apparently were incapable or too frightened or basically just useless.

      She had many opportunities to comply, respectfully, and she denied to cooperate every time with the teacher, the Vice Principal, and the officer.

      Now... all the people that decided to have officers in the school, the school board, the administration, the sheriffs office, are all throwing the one officer under the bus... who did what he was asked to do, because they are all spineless and worried about their jobs.

      Maybe when the girl wouldn't comply, the officer should have gotten on his special Gryphen phone, and had you delivered post haste to deal with her Gryph. I'd love to see how that would have worked out.

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    8. Anonymous3:43 PM

      3:13, you're an idiot. We have a resource officer here in our suburban Northern California high school, and not because we felt unsafe or things had gotten completely out of control. And we have never had anything like this happen to any of our students. You actually think that if a resource officer is called, then things are by definition so serious that the ends justify the means? Again, you're an idiot.

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    9. Interesting that every person on the cops side on this thread is incapable of getting their point across without being abusive and condescending ...

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    10. Anonymous4:10 PM

      Well 3:43, are you suggesting that the officer was not called in to the room to remove the student, as has been well established by the school, because the vice principal and teacher were unsuccessful in doing so themselves, and called him in for that very task?

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    11. Anonymous4:39 PM

      I have substituted and taught in several different types of districts. The only district I have ever taught in that had a resource officer was a 99% white, rural high school. So no, there doesn't have to be a feeling of being 'unsafe' to have an officer assigned to a school.

      As for the way the situation was handled PRIOR to the deputy entering the picture, it was abysmal. The other students said she had put her phone away and was asking to remain in class- not just simply refusing to leave. At that point, you continue class and deal with repercussions later- continue the learning as smoothly as possible. But no, the teacher, assistant principal, and the deputy HAD to prove a point, and couldn't be seen as having been disrespected by this teenage girl. And yes, she's a teenage girl. Without all the other issues that may be going on in her life, quite frankly, teenagers can be assholes. If you can't deal with that, you shouldn't be in a high school.

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    12. Anonymous5:34 PM

      The cop /vice/teacher took a situation that was at about a level 2 & escalated it to an 11! The cop assaulted a child over a Cellphone. As has been said,he's lucky he didn't kill her. Lucky day for him.

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    13. Anonymous7:30 PM

      lol, really 4:39?... It is fairly rare there is an unsafe feeling at a 99% white suburban school obviously.... The resource officers are most definitely used in a different capacity at a school such as this. ie, he was called in to do the dirty work that admin and teacher didn't want to do, or could not do, themselves. Don't be so obtuse.

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    14. Anonymous8:05 PM

      "do the dirty work that admin and teacher didn't want to do"

      That admin and teacher really knew their stuff. They let the other students video the the dirty work so the officer would get all the blame. Pretty smart cookies, I say.

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    15. Anonymous8:12 PM

      The videos, 8:05, show the officer doing his job, and showing restraint considering she was punching and resisting him as she was being placed under arrest.

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    16. Anonymous8:40 PM

      @8:12

      One of the videos shows the admin and the teacher cheerfully watching the officer being videoed by the students. Kudos to those two. They know how to get a student slammed around AND how to get the officer nailed for it. Great work on their part. The officer losing his job is just more gravy for them.

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    17. Anonymous8:50 PM

      The fact that it became physical is 100% on the student. 100%.

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    18. Anonymous9:25 PM

      "he was called in to do the dirty work that admin and teacher didn't want to do, or could not do, themselves"

      That teacher and admin are lucky they have such a cooperative officer to do the physical dirty work. They are sitting pretty without any threat to their jobs while this poor officer lost his. I bet they even knew this student would trigger the officer.

      What I don't understand is why all the adults let the situation be videoed by other students. The admin and the teacher should have done the videos from the proper angles so the officer could prove the student is entirely at fault (100%).

      The next officer assigned to that school will have to more careful about getting exonerating evidence before doing "the dirty work". There's probably a lot of other students in that school that deserve the kind of treatment this student got.

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  6. Anonymous11:54 AM

    Just spitballing here but I wonder what would have happened if that disruptive student was white.
    Apparently that former officer had a hIstory of problems of a racist nature which earned him the nickname of officer SLAM.
    I'll bet he was proud of that.
    No doubt the kid was a brat but the Slammer obviously went berserk.
    We need him to continue his career and help us out on the southwest side of Chicago. Go get 'em tough guy. He would shit his pants in the first hour.

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    1. Anonymous12:02 PM

      Send him to Syria. Tough guy??

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  7. Anonymous11:56 AM

    Thankyou 11:45 .I couldn't agree more. The racists always are looking to creep in when the time is ripe. Ugliness goes across the board,be it natives,blacks or Mexicans.

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  8. Frosty11:57 AM

    Not only should he be fired, but he should be charged with criminal assault. Anyone trained to work with difficult kids knows how to restrain them with no one getting hurt.

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    1. Anonymous11:36 PM

      Nobody got hurt. At the request of school administration, he did a tremendous job of removing the problem student who in turn physically resisted getting arrested and punched him. Maybe she will be charged with assaulting an officer though. She probably should be.

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    2. Anonymous4:40 AM

      The student did get hurt.

      The officer did assault her.

      The student did not physically resist.

      The student should not be charged with assaulting an officer.

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  9. Anonymous11:59 AM

    Black teen attacked by school cop has multiple injuries — and is an orphan who recently lost her mother

    ...Rutherford told the New York Daily News that the teen recently lost her mother and is living in a foster home. The teen’s foster mother said the girl was “devastated and emotionally traumatized by all that has happened to her,” according to the Daily News.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/black-teen-attacked-by-south-carolina-cop-has-a-cast-on-her-arm-and-neck-and-back-injuries/

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  10. This has almost made my head explode.

    Anyone commenting on how a teenaged, ninety five pound girl on a cell phone with attitude deserves to be snatched out of her desk, flung to the floor by a man more than double her size--deserved it, I'd say put a child you loved in this girl's place and see if you'd feel the same way.

    It seems there is a core group who think black children don't deserve the idea of a protected childhood like other children. They think they deserve getting beat in school for not listening, shot in parks with play guns with no warning because they LOOKED big, battered in bikinis at pool parties,
    or just shot-----because.

    And the sorry excuse for a human adult derseves to be prosecuted for what he did to that kid.

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    1. Anonymous1:42 PM

      Now she is 95 pounds lol, what is she filled with helium?

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    2. I doubt if she weight that much A-hole

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  11. Anonymous12:02 PM

    ...In other words, despite the firing — which likely would not have happened if the video hadn’t gone viral — Sheriff Lott is still defending his own behind that thin blue line, despite his obviously despicable actions.

    Even more disturbing is the fact that the one student who stood up for the unidentified victim of Deputy Fields’ assault, fellow student Niya Kenny, was arrested for her bravery, and she, as well as the assault victim, still face charges, while Deputy Fields does not face any criminal prosecution at this time.

    This whole situation is sick. They need to drop the charges against these two innocent children, and arrest the now unemployed Deputy Fields with felony assault against a minor, and throw him in a cell where he belongs.

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/10/28/child-throwing-deputy-ben-fields-fired-from-sheriffs-department-kids-still-face-charges-video/

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    1. There are THREE videos.

      Where are the other two for us to watch and pass judgement?

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    2. Anonymous8:01 PM

      I didn't have any trouble finding all 3 videos. Is it a hard thing to do? I found the three videos using the search string

      "videos SC school"

      http://www.11alive.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/10/27/videos-multiple-angles-sc-school-incident/74714650/

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  12. Anonymous12:09 PM

    And what is wrong with that whole law enforcement dept when they put a problem officer in a school? It isn't just the officer who was at fault, this guy has had multiple complaints before getting assigned at the school.
    And even if a child is disciplined at school it shouldn't be a crime.

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    1. Anonymous12:23 PM

      But sadly it is a crime..
      http://lwvcharleston.org/files/spp_disturbing_schools_act.pdf

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  13. Anonymous12:11 PM

    He is also a football coach at that school, has the school fired him yet?

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  14. Anonymous12:16 PM

    THIS;
    http://news.yahoo.com/black-girls-teenage-behavior-criminal-211233894.html

    this;
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nicole-kief/is-this-what-school-safet_b_8408254.html

    Jim Wright is RIGHT:
    https://www.facebook.com/Stonekettle/posts/911138815588189

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  15. Anonymous12:20 PM

    This whole thng is surrreal to me.
    It looks like a bad episode of Orange is the NeW Black with Pornstache back in the jail.
    This happened in a SCHOOL ROOM? For using a cell phone??
    Whatever happened to good old after school detention for fuck's sake?
    I bet thus guy served in Iraq or Afghanistan.
    Am I right?
    These guys come home as monsters, some of them, if they come home bodily whole, at all.
    I hope she sues him and the school district and the police department and the state. I hope she never has to work a day in her life.

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    1. Anonymous12:44 PM

      No one mentions the girl sitting behind this whole assault, she (or any other student) could have also been hurt, it looked surreal to be sure.

      This is the future.

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    2. No. It isn't what happens in a school room for using a cell phone.

      There is a LOT more to the story than that and none of us has all of the information.

      BTW, if you think this girl is going to show up for detention after refusing to put her cell phone away and refusing to leave the classroom, I'd like to know what you've been smoking.

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    3. Anonymous8:02 PM

      @Mialoopynuts

      I have all the info I needed, the cop put her in a choke hold which is against the law. Now lay off the booze and maybe, just maybe you will be sober enough to engage your students tomorrow.

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    4. Thankfully, I no longer have to worry about guns in waistbands, knives in handbags or razorblades braided in their hair. No longer have to endure profanity, theft and vandalism in and outside the classroom.

      I still say we do NOT have the whole story.

      When an arrest is made the police should be able to perform their duties as usual. Not have to use kid gloves because the public might be outraged by some short clips of illegal cell phone footage.

      I'll wait for the ENTIRE story to come out before I unleash my outrage.

      Just like Planned Parenthood and Shirley Sherrod.

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  16. Anonymous12:23 PM

    O/T but here's one for your photo file, Gryphen....scary as shit.

    http://static2.politico.com/dims4/default/4503c2b/2147483647/legacy_thumbnail/1160x629%5E/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F10%2F33%2F92b1664941d180d3e973c47d0a3d%2Fted-cruz.jpg

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  17. Anonymous12:50 PM

    I was appalled and depressed by the comments here yesterday saying the girl deserved it. Glad to hear he was fired so quickly, but "she started it"? Really?? What a moronic, juvenile statement to make seconds after announcing the quick firing. Way to shoot yourself in the foot there, Sheriff...

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  18. I heard that a principal in that state got body slammed today by a student! Anyone else caught that?

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    1. I'm sure it was his fault and he deserved it.

      You know. For making eye contact or something.

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  19. And it is on film

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    1. There are THREE videos.

      Two for which have not been released.

      Nor have the full statements given by the teacher and the Vice Principal.

      But of course, I'm sure the teacher and administrator are lying, right? Because they all lie. That's what the right wing tells us.

      And of course if those other videos show anything but what we believe they should, they have been doctored to protect the officer.

      Right?

      Doesn't that sound just like the Breitbart whackos?

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  20. Anonymous1:20 PM

    There is another very good reason for not throwing girls and women around. The person could be pregnant. All the fundie concern about the rights of a fetus should be outraged that a possible fetus could be damaged by the actions of this officer.

    And, YES, someone can be unaware that they are pregnant. When a female gets an X-ray there's a protector placed over their reproductive area. The technician does not ask "are you pregnant" because protecting a fetus is not left to chance.

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    1. Anonymous6:33 PM

      Sorry, I dont agree with the level of force displayed here, but worrying whether or not some girl is pregnant or not would be the last thing on my mind.

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    2. Anonymous7:44 PM

      "worrying whether or not some girl is pregnant"

      Throwing her around is so much more important than that.

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    3. Anonymous9:23 PM

      7:44 exactly....very succinct....

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  21. Anonymous1:34 PM

    I was disturbed by the number of commenters yesterday who blamed the girl for what the officer did. I know that lots of kids behave badly but, frankly, that is the fault of the adult generation and not the fault of the kids. Of course, kids have to learn to behave in public - in the playground, in the schoolroom, and everywhere else. But it all begins at home. The officer, obviously, had no idea how to properly and effectively diffuse the situation. It's just possible that the best way would have been to ignore the misbehavior of the girl and let the class get on with its learning.
    Beagle mom

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    1. Anonymous3:47 PM

      Exactly! Choose your battles, rule number 1.

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    2. What learning? There was no learning taking place.

      Who knows how long this girl had that class at a standstill due to her defiant behavior. I'm guess an entire class period. 30 min - an hour.

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  22. Anonymous1:54 PM

    Gryphen, This is one of the finest pieces you have written, and I read you every day. Thank you.

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    1. Anonymous2:53 PM

      Thank u,thank u,thank u,uncle gryph .

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  23. Anonymous2:14 PM

    Females are discouraged in many ways from studying higher math by male teachers. The teacher is reprehensible as well. I admire her for maintaining her attendance in this entry level math class.

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    1. Anonymous2:26 PM

      Yes, we should award her by making her chief of NASA.

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    2. Anonymous2:38 PM

      How did you come up with that one?

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    4. 226, how about we just treat her like we would any human being?

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    5. 226, seriously, what crawled up your ass and died?

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    6. Anonymous3:44 PM

      If memory serves correct, back in the day around grade school and high school level, the majority of the best math students were female, oriental females more than often. Don't recall any females being discouraged to study higher math, they were the ones in the classes. Methinks 2:14 is the one with a chip on her shoulder against men.

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    7. Anonymous3:57 PM

      http://www.usnews.com/news/stem-index/articles/2015/06/29/gender-racial-gaps-widen-in-stem-fields

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    8. Anonymous3:59 PM

      Scientific surveys vs anecdotal drivel. No contest.

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    9. Anonymous11:42 PM

      Uh. Didn't read anything in your stupid article that supports your theory that women are discouraged from pursuing higher math. So basically your 'scientific' (lol) survey is useless for your incorrect and stupid arguement.

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    10. Anonymous4:33 AM

      @11:42

      Science is hard. Don't worry, your brain is not built to comprehend such things. Take comfort is spewing. It's your best hope to avoid total oblivion.

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    11. Anonymous10:30 PM

      Excuse me 4:33, perhaps I did miss it.... can you please point to the exact paragraphs and sentences where your suggested fancy article states that females are discouraged from taking higher level math courses by male teachers?

      (for example paragraph 3 sentence 2 etc..)

      If I counted correctly there are 21 paragraphs. Please point out the sentences within these paragraphs supporting your feminist claim that male teachers are discouring female students from higher math learning.

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  24. Anonymous2:30 PM

    .
    Can anyone say 'roidrage?

    4. Fields, Also a Football Coach & Power Lifter, Became a Cop 11 Years Ago After Junior College

    http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/ben-fields-richland-county-south-carolina-sheriff-deputy-spring-valley-high-school-photo-football-coach-bodybuilder-cop-student-desk-video-complaints/
    .

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    1. Anonymous2:47 PM

      He admits to taking cretin supplement?! wtf!

      "He said he has taken supplements, including Creatin, to help build muscles."



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    2. Anonymous4:29 PM

      I think cops should have mandatory drug tests monthly.

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  25. Anonymous2:57 PM

    Move along now officer, and every day you should get down on your knees and thank your lucky stars you didn't kill that girl or put her in a wheelchair for life. Imagine your life afterward, how much you would regret that moment of blind fury. Lucky lucky man. Now change yourself.

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    1. Anonymous3:48 PM

      My thoughts exactly. She could have ended up with a broken neck. I think the officer's steroids damaged his brain while stretching his muscles.
      Beaglemom

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  26. Anonymous3:10 PM

    Sadly, a disruptive and disrespectful student will now have some free money.

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    1. Anonymous3:32 PM

      Don't feed the trolls!
      It just goes directly to their thighs.

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    2. Anonymous3:33 PM

      Happily an asshole, dangerous, adult male has lost his job.

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    3. Anonymous7:18 PM

      Next year she be driving an Escalade to school. She would be bankrupt by her senior year, but we all know she will have quit school by then.

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    4. Anonymous9:25 PM

      Full of shit much Miss 7:18 pm?

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    5. Anonymous9:40 PM

      7:18 you are full of it.

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  27. Anonymous6:38 PM

    Gryphen, you mention from time to time your many hours of training and how you constantly are dealing with very disturbed people, but you never even say what exactly it is you do or who you work for. Do you even have a college degree and if so, in what discipline? I am starting to think you are full of shit. Theres alotta stuff that just doesnt add up.

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  28. I'm sorry but I am appalled at this lynch mob.

    How many times were Obama's nominees and officials forced to resign because the media used incomplete or false video and "facts" to condemn them? And then later it turned out that wasn't the whole picture.

    How soon we forget Planned Parenthood. Especially since it is still ongoing.

    I don't care what this guy's record is. I'm not going to try and convict him until ALL of the facts are in.

    I'm not buying a short video clip from ONE student. I know there are several out there and that one shows this girl assaulting the officer first. This after he has tried to get her to leave peacefully.

    Both the teacher and the Vice Principal have given statements to the Sheriff that support the officer.

    I also don't know anything about this student's prior discipline record; how many suspensions and for what. Fighting? Weapons? All I know is that she is in foster care so there is no parent. For all I know they may have had reason to believe this girl was a danger due to past behavior and defiance.

    I've had students make lying accusations against me and make good on threats against me. I have no reason to assume this is some poor little angel who is being persecuted by a racist pig. Not based on that piece of video and no other information.

    It pains me to say it but this time Brancy got it right.

    Parents need to teach their kids to do as they are told. If this girl was told to put away her phone, she needed to do that with no back talk or profanity. If she was instructed to leave the classroom she needed to do that. Not stay and disrupt the class and defy the teacher, the Vice Principal and the police.

    What happens to a civilian when they are put under arrest and refuse to do as instructed? I'd say the amount of force used on this girl is a lot less. And make no mistake. At this point she was under arrest. She wasn't under arrest for texting on a cell phone. She was under arrest for defiance of a police officer's instructions. Don't think that's legitimate? Try it the next time you're pulled over for a traffic violation.

    We've got parents at home telling their kids that teachers are lazy, stupid, greedy and incompetent. Why should their kid then go to school and work hard and learn anything? Why should they respect the teacher and do what anyone at school tells them? Their parents are teaching them the exact opposite. This girl is probably doing exactly what her parents taught her. "Don't do nothing they tell you. And whatever the police tell you, you don't say nothing and you run as fast as you can. If anyone accuses you of anything, you lie. Your Momma will protect you."

    This board and about every other board I read is acting just like the right wing did when the Planned Parenthood videos came out, when Shirley Sherrod and Van Jones were railroaded into resigning.

    Have we learned nothing?

    Or are we just as bad as the rabid right, making snap judgements and conclusions because some snippet of edited video has outraged us before all of the facts are in?

    This is just disgusting.

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    1. Anonymous7:25 PM

      Hopefully you are no where near any of the school districts my grandchildren are in.

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    2. Anonymous7:25 PM

      mlaiuppa. Pour yourself a glass of wine with me.

      It happens on rare occasions, I am in complete agreement with everything you said.

      Cheers.


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    3. Anonymous7:52 PM

      Obviously the students chose the best video angles and edited the videos to make it appear that the student was thrown across the classroom.

      Certainly the whole uproar could have been avoided if the officer had simply cleared the classroom before giving the offending student a proper working over.

      The video is the problem. The officer is the victim. It's all clear to me now.

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    4. Anonymous7:58 PM

      BTW police officers can't arrest you for "defiance" during a traffic stop. And let's hope you quit teaching if you think children should be assaulted in the classroom.

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    5. Anonymous8:31 PM

      You are talking out your ass 7:58, you have no idea what you are talking about. She was arrested and charged.

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    6. Anonymous5:09 AM

      I agree mluiappa. We don't know the whole story.

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    7. The students only shared the very end of the video showing the cop in the worst light.

      Like so many videos that have gone before, I want to see ALL of it. And I want to read the reports from all about everything that happened BEFORE that last bit of footage.

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  29. Anonymous8:24 PM

    I am confident that this has been said many times over but it must be repeated....the person in charge of that classroom ( they do not deserve the honor of being called "teacher"). Must be removed and FIRED for calling the cop on that girl. That is beyond realiry. While everyone is going on about the cop, as they should, everyone is ignoring the incompetence of the person that unleashed the beast.

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    1. You're absolutely right.

      It is the fault of the teacher, the Vice Principal and the Cop. And I dare say every guardian this "child" has had since the day she was born.

      I see that now.

      This girl is completely innocent.

      <\sarcasm>

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  30. Anonymous9:00 PM

    7:15 has issues. Thank you for your comments 8:24 pm.

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    1. I have a name.

      I also have reality based experience.

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  31. I am a great fan of this blog. But lets not be so predictible. The girl was a nasty POS and the young guy lost his job after a Black Teacker and a Black Principal callred him in and asked that she be removed. She was not assalted or "thrown". He tried to get jher out of her chair and she hung on and made this more difficult than it should be. Hence, he is FIRED! WTF!

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    1. Anonymous9:47 PM

      The student was thrown. Sheriff Lott says the student was thrown.

      While Lott said, "the student was being disruptive," his department's review of the incident led to the conclusion that Field's "use of force was unacceptable" and he "did not follow proper training, proper procedure" when he "threw her across the classroom."

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    2. Anonymous9:58 PM

      The only reason the officer was fired is because the video exists. If only the officer, the teacher and the admin had cleared the room of the other students, the officer would still be employed.

      The smart ass videoing students are the REAL problem.

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    3. Anonymous10:34 PM

      @Darla

      The video proves she was thrown, so you are incorrect. Also, calling this young lady nasty names only tells the rest of us what a low life you are.
      BTW, it may be a good idea for you to go back to school and try to learn how to spell very basic words.

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    4. Anonymous10:36 PM

      The reason the officer was fired is because the sheriff and the town and the school district knew that was the easiest way to get out of this mess, probably stop an unjustified riot (christmas shopping) fueled by social media and race baiters, and they all want to keep their jobs.

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    5. Anonymous4:43 AM

      "unjustified riot (christmas(sic) shopping)"

      Race baiting, much?

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    6. Wow. Thrown across the room.

      What? About 20-25 ft? 15ft at minimum.

      I must have missed that part.

      How long was she in mid-air?

      This girl obviously wanted to stay and learn so desperately that she clung to that chair, hoping to complete just one more math problem.

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    7. Anonymous10:18 PM

      Not exactly 4:43. The unpretty truth.

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  32. Anonymous9:39 PM

    Yeah. WTF why would a student stay in public education in a core class? Doesn't she know red-blooded intimidation to obey and get out of education at the whim or vapor of a bully?

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  33. Anonymous11:52 PM

    I've been reading about this on several different websites. A lot of commenters are self-professed "patriots" who strongly believe the 2nd amendment gives everyone the right to have firearms in case they need to fight a tyrannical government. It's strange to me that they all appear to support the government employee in this case.

    Another thing that runs through my mind is that the lesson all the kids who saw this have learned is that respect is to be gotten through violence. I don't think a society that operates this way is going to last very long.

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    1. I think it's more likely the students will be carrying the guns and defying any authority that they disagree with. That's pretty much the right wing's mantra.

      I'm sure the right wing will be just fine with a lot of greedy, lazy, incompetent teachers getting shot for daring to suggest a student obey any rules or do any work.

      I would also suggest what the students have learned is all they have to do is refuse to do anything and in the end they'll get a big, fat settlement.

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  34. Anonymous5:13 AM

    Just imagine if people had been armed. No telling who all would have been shot.

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    1. It wouldn't have been the adults doing the shooting.

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  35. Notice during the interview with her attorney, he refrained from elaborating on whether she was actually living with her mother or grandmother. There may be some issues in her family, and she may indeed be in foster care. Stop victim-blaming and get all the facts first!

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