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Do you tear up a Koran in front of the refugees and the ones that don't cringe are allowed to come into the country?
Or perhaps it's like testing witches where you throw them into the water weighted down with rocks, and the ones that float we know are Muslims, and the others....well they're just dead.
Of course where Fox News goes, the Republicans are sure to follow. Which is partially why we are now seeing over two dozen Republican governors (And one Democratic one.) saying that they will refuse to accept any refugees from Syria.
Though I am sure that they, much like Murdoch, would immediately change their minds just so long as they could PROVE they were good little Christian refugees.
Somebody might need to remind Murdoch, and the Republicans, that in America the vast number of terrorist attacks are NOT attributed to Muslims, but rather to those who would most likely self identify as Christians.
According to data compiled in a new study, 9 of the 10 least educated states in America also voted Republican in the last presidential election.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/17/red-state-stupidity-confirmed-9-10-education-states-america-vote-republican.html
Fox viewers to a man -- Haven't heard its "Fair and Balanced" motto mocked for some time. Perhaps Fox has changed it to this more reality based one:
DeletePromoting ignorance, less understanding and more misplaced blame since our rape-of-journalism conception in 1996.
Piyush is out!
ReplyDeleteBobby Jindal Drops Out Of 2016 Republican Race: 'This Is Not My Time'
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bobby-jindal-suspends-white-house-bid
What took him so long? Maybe his wife bitch slapped some sense in him.
DeleteWhen Piyush came to shove .... let's hope Jeb connotes no excitement is next!
DeleteMy guess is someone tracked down one of his male hookers.
DeleteI knew a girl whose Jewish family "converted" to Catholicism in Germany during WWII. She knew all the rituals. Sort of like taking an oath that you are not a Communist. No way to test.
ReplyDeleteKasich Proposes Govt Agency To Espouse Judeo-Christian Values Abroad (VIDEO)
ReplyDelete..."We need to beam messages around the world about what it means to have a Western ethic, to be a part of a Christian-Judeo society," Kasich said in an interview Tuesday with NBC. "It means freedom, it means opportunity, it means respect for women, it means so many things."
The GOP presidential contender laid out his proposal during a larger discussion of his plan to defeat the Islamic State. The agency would promote the Judeo-Christian beliefs to places such as China, Russia, and the Middle East, Kasich told NBC.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/john-kasich-govt-agency-judeo-christian-values
WTF ever happened to separation of church and state? How fucking arrogant to think the world wants this propaganda.
This guy used to be the most reasonable one in the clown car. The more desperate he becomes, the more stupid he sounds. If anybody else tried what he's espousing, he would call it propaganda.. It's just so embarrassing these days.
DeleteHe is obviously pandering to the rubes. NO actual governor could possibly be so stupid as to believe that such an agency would be even remotely constitutional. It flies directly in the face of the very first sentence of the very first amendment, for universe's sake.
DeleteAmerica is full up of religious people of all types. My personal litmus test for admittance would be Atheism. Not sane? Not reasonable? Believe in Sky Fairies of any type? So Sorry, try again...
ReplyDeleteExcellent idea. As Jack Nicolson said in "As Good as it Gets" -- "...go peddle your crazy somewhere else."
DeleteOh, please, being an atheist is no guarantee that you are a decent human being. You can just as easily be a sociopathic asshole without a god in your life as with one.
DeleteLooks like we've got another Palin:
ReplyDeleteBen Carson Is Struggling to Grasp Foreign Policy, Advisers Say
...“Nobody has been able to sit down with him and have him get one iota of intelligent information about the Middle East,” Duane R. Clarridge, a top adviser to Mr. Carson on terrorism and national security, said in an interview. He also said Mr. Carson needed weekly conference calls briefing him on foreign policy so “we can make him smart.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/18/us/politics/ben-carson-is-struggling-to-grasp-foreign-policy-advisers-say.html
exactly, he speaks out ot total ignorance when it comes to refugees, especially Muslims. He said he doesn't think America is ready for a Muslim president, why? because supposedly the Muslim president will impose Sharia Law on Americans. Really? Is he that stupid? If a person wants to vie for Presidency in America, he is damn sure that he or she is bound by the constitution of that country. He really needs a lesson in Foreign policy.
DeleteAs an Illinois resident I am ashamed that Gov Ruiner is lock-step with the xenophobes and included Ill. in the list. Prior Gov, Pat Quinn would not have taken this stance.
ReplyDeleteI've been an atheist my whole life, but I've definitely got the creds to "prove" I'm a Christian (guess all that forced church going is good for something). And guess what, according to the Christian faith, all I have to do is have some kind of instant epiphany, ask for forgiveness (just in case I've committed a murder or two), proclaim myself "born again", and I'd be totally legit with "God" anyway.
ReplyDeleteI read "The Source" by James Michener when I was a teenager. They were excavating an archaeology site, and telling stories of people through the ages that they were digging through. There was one family who always tilted with the wind.........whatever religion was in charge at the time, they would always convert to that one. And you know what, they were the survivors of the story, because they were a practical sort and never clung to an unpopular religion that my get themselves persecuted. I've told my children that lesson, so if the Christians start burning us atheists at the stake again, my kids will definitely be "Christian" on that day.
Well my children have dual citizenships and can go to Canada.
DeleteSaw it in the movies .... sprinkle them with holy water and see if they burn.
ReplyDeleteSatan thinks there's not enough Hate being generated in SatanTV.
ReplyDeleteKinda of funny those who deny evolution exists sure are trying hard to stop it on a daily basis.
ReplyDeleteThey will go the way of the Dodo. But we don't have that much time. VOTE them out!
DeleteMy governor Deal (god I hate admitting that) is another idiot saying Georgia won't admit Syrian refugees. #1) He has no authority to do this. #2) I've been talking to my Mom about doing just that. Fuck these "Christians". What happened to the Good Samaritan?
ReplyDeleteThat only works for whites in the south.
DeleteBut christians keep talking about their Jeebus coming back and maybe I'm wrong and he will, but they would turn him away.
And of course those that are here already can be rounded up and sent to internment camps. Manzanar comes to mind.
ReplyDeleteMy intelligent, talented doctor is from Syria. He's the only specialist of his kind within 50 miles. If he was sent to a camp, I'd follow. The fact that he's extraordinarily handsome doesn't have anything to do with it ;)
DeleteAnd once a person meets Murdoch's criteria for "Christian", that person can fast track to upholding the 2nd Amendment by brandishing a semi-automatic firearm in the local Open-Carry event.
ReplyDeleteI propose only proven Christians be able to talk about Christianity in public forums. That would leave President Carter and a few others.
ReplyDeleteChris Matthews, MSNBC, is hollering for war and I personally think he should be pulled from the air. He's sounds completely deranged!
ReplyDeleteWhat is wrong with people wanting America to go to war again when our kids are killed and it is something the nation cannot afford. Plus, I firmly believe those in the middle east should fight their own battles - not Americans!
Republicans and many in our media sound like fucking lunatics. How do we shut them down?
Wrong approach. He wants war? Put him in a parachute, hand him an assault weapon, and throw him out of a C-130 about 10,000 feet over Damascus.
DeleteThere ya go, Matthews. You want war? You got it!
Well, bon voyage Palins! Proven to be not Christians.
ReplyDeleteGee, they can look to the Inquisition for ways to "prove" one's religious purity. Let's ask Rupert Murdoch is he'd be the guinea pig to test them out. Maybe Sarah Palin and a few of the GOP wannabe candidates can also be guinea pigs. By the way, Sarah wouldn't last a minute with her thin-skin veneer of Christianity.
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
America's Other-fearing, hate-mongering default position -- fallen to, yet again.
DeleteSomeone should tell that pustulant old fart to STFU and mind his own business. He and his business practices are an open wound and a shame to humanity.
ReplyDeleteLike Rupert Murdoch is the epitome of Christianity.
ReplyDeleteOur constitution makes us a "melting pot" so STFU, Australian.
I don't care if he's a citizen or not.
I propose an entrance exam for politicians: If you proclaim yourself a xtian, we will examine your life to see if you have behaved like one, and if elected, you would not be allowed to propose or support any legislation that is contrary to what a decent human being would do.
ReplyDeleteIt's like the GOP/Christianist platform is not "What would Jesus do?" but "What would a decent human being do? We'll do the opposite!"
DeleteA French Muslim Stood In Paris Blindfolded, Asking For Hugs, And It Was Beautiful (VIDEO)
ReplyDeleteBlindfolded, with signs that read, “I’m a Muslim but I’m told that I’m a terrorist. I trust you, do you trust me? If yes, hug me,” the man stood with his arms outstretched, likely unsure about what to expect.
Parisians from all walks of life gathered around him to give him hugs. Some took photos, others, overcome with emotion, broke down in tears.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/11/17/a-french-muslim-stood-in-paris-blindfolded-asking-for-hugs-and-it-was-beautiful-video/
The Muslim religion is not a violent religion. Those terrorists are just criminals.
DeleteProve it? Utter rubbish!
ReplyDeleteWhat we are seeing out of these fake Xtian are threats of violence towards others who don't fall in line with their "we make it up as we go " retoric. How does that make them any different than isis?
DeleteAnonymous Declares War On ISIS, Takes Down 5,500 Terror-Linked Accounts In Two Days
ReplyDelete...In just under two days, Anonymous has managed to identify and take down over 5,500 pro-ISIS Twitter accounts. Coordinating under the hashtag #opIceISIS, hackers have collected all sorts of valuable data about suspected ISIS members and the people who aid them.
We report that more than 5500 Twitter account of #ISIS are now #down! #OpParis #Anonymous #ExpectUs
— #OpParis (@opparisofficial) November 17, 2015
Perhaps sensitive to previous campaigns that led to the leaks of unvetted information, the members of #opIceISIS are being as transparent as they can be with the press. According to the UK’s The Guardian, their reporters have already been granted access to the massive data dumps Anonymous has been collected in the last 48 hours. The information appears extensive (albeit still not independently verified):
The activist collective is assembling lists of the Twitter accounts and websites of extremists, in an attempt to have them taken down. At least one post seen by The Independent contains details including the physical address of a person it claims is an Isis recruiter in Europe.
Activists claim to have successfully had accounts and sites taken down already. Accounts associated with the group claimed that it was responsible for the removal of more than 5,500 accounts.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/11/17/anonymous-declares-war-on-isis-takes-down-5500-terror-linked-accounts-in-two-days/
Anonymous has also claimed to remove 8824 Twitter accounts of alleged ISIS sympathizers. Here are the Tweets coming from the official Twitter account being the #OpISIS and #OpParis.
Deletehttps://www.hackread.com/anonymous-exposes-pro-isis-twitter-accounts/
https://twitter.com/hashtag/OpParis?src=hash
Deletehttps://twitter.com/DEPLOYED_DRONE/status/666799537500082176
DeleteTo understand this situation better, people should google "no-go zones." They are in France, Paris, England and Sweden. To my surprise, there is also one in Dearborn, Michigan.
ReplyDeleteThat Dearborn Mi is considered a "no-go" zone is news to me and I've lived in Michigan since 1970. There is a large Moslem community there but many have been there since the 1920's. Along one of the main streets in Dearborn there is a large mosque, a large synagogue, a large Catholic church and large Protestant churches.
DeleteBeaglemom
Bullshit
DeleteI get so incredibly SICK of these people. They bomb the shit out of countries yet claim the sanctity of life is oh-so important to them.
ReplyDeleteCristy is oh-so pro-life (Sanctity of life!!!) but won't accept even orphans (whose parents WE killed), just because.
Would they let in pregnant women, because that child hasn't been born yet???
May be, perhaps but probably not....not the right color nor faith.
Absolutely sickening, this hypocrisy.
American Bigots Also Opposed Taking In Jewish Refugees During The Holocaust, And Millions Died
ReplyDeleteAs conservative bigots rush to refuse asylum to Syrian refugees who are fleeing the terror of ISIS, it’s important to remember that many Americans also opposed rescuing Jews during the Holocaust.
Indeed, history is actually repeating itself before our very eyes. Syria is a war zone and hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children are trying to escape certain death by seeking new lives in Europe and the United States.
But ever since ISIS launched terrorist attacks in Paris, Republicans have been insisting that America reject Syrian refugees or discriminate against Syrian Muslims by only accepting Christian refugees.
This attitude not only goes against the Constitution, it has been completely repudiated by President Obama, who slammed Republicans on Monday for this betrayal of the American values of religious liberty and helping others in need.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/11/17/american-bigots-also-opposed-taking-in-jewish-refugees-during-the-holocaust-and-millions-died/
It's in the ISIS handbook -- create choas in an election year -- it makes stupid Americans vote regressively.
DeleteO/T but YAY!!! Alaska wins again!
ReplyDeleteThe Arctic Just Shook Off Another Oil Company
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/11/17/3723123/statoil-leaves-alaska/
How about we don't let anyone in with religious ties since we can't foresee who the extremists are?
ReplyDeleteMaybe if we let the refuges in then Bristle Palin can actually find a husband( well, before he finds out about her).
ReplyDeleteWhy do you spoil this conversation by mentioning a Palin?
DeleteProven christians are those with "Tomb for Rent" signs on their caves. They have a list of ten moral laws to keep, one being, "Though shalt not haveth a child without benefit of marriage" Another is "If thou watcheth Fox News, you are guaranteed a place in heaven with tons of virgins and stainless steel appliances" and stuff like that.
ReplyDeleteAnd it's those so called christians who are making this be commonplace now...disgusting!
ReplyDeleteMore Than 100,000 Texan Women Have Tried To Induce Their Own Abortion
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/11/17/3723068/self-induced-abortion-texas/
Maybe non Americans like Murdoch should worry about their own country Australia ( which is BTW taking in refuges).
ReplyDeleteAnd, as a Native American I personally find it extremely offensive that there is a group of people saying I , or anyone else, must embrace christianity in any form. christians murdered many of my ancestors, but they also stole my Grandfather and his siblings from their home, where ( though 3 of 5 children survived) they were all physically and sexually abused. Including my great aunt ( who I never met since she was dead at the hands of christian religious freaks). My great aunt was 10 when she was stolen, raped repeatedly, and most times gang raped by christian "missionaries". My Grandfather, her oldest brother( also raped multiple times) finally found a way to escape. Unfortunately a 12 yr old girl ( my great aunt) was already pregnant by one of the devout christians. They escaped and walked ( though by that time my grandfather was 13 and stole a horse along they way to carry the little ones) almost 2000 miles back home. Unfortunately this took months since they had to hide. Unfortunately my great aunt died giving birth to a stillborn fetus. One child down, 4 more children still making their way over another 1500 miles. The little one then got sick, he was 7 at the time.....we don't know what it was, heck it could have been the flu or a common cold his his abused little body was so run down from sexual( apparently he was the favorite rape victim of the white middle aged christian men that stole him), physical abuse, along with being starved.
Two innocent child victims buried along the way. It took the remaining 3 children well over a yr ( another stolen horse and a canoe) to get home. 2 years and two dead children, the other 3 children sexually abused, physically abused beyond what anyone was put through in Abu Ghraib. These were innocent children, stolen for no other reason than that they weren't "christian".
So the moral of this story is that we will start having religious tests or national religion then I will leave to go to Canada, our family has lost too much and will not let another generation be killed, be used as sexual objects for deviant christian missionaries and pastors ever again.
No one has cared all these yrs when different Native American tribes have spoken out, but when it is your children maybe you can try standing up.
I am a Christian (follower of Christ), and I am a Liberal Democrat, but I am not down on any religion. I respect all religions, although I may not agree with them. This is why we have religious freedom in the US of America.
DeleteMy ex,a Lakota Sioux /Rosebud res.was abused by the priests at boarding school. My heart goes out to you.
DeleteLet me offer another view. I acknowledge the existence of religion and tolerate it, but I don't respect it.
DeleteMurdoch is definitely a devil.
ReplyDeleteNo Jewish people, Ruppie, Boy?
ReplyDeleteMurdock is like McCain choosing Palin and the willful ignorance she legitimized, in creating that travesty of a "news" channel. Put the blame for the rise of ISIS on his war-mongering & destruction of the Middle East being force-fed to its stupid viewers who vote, in droves.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of devils--wouldn't Satan be the most proven Christian of them all? I mean, he knows firsthand the existence of God, has personally tempted Jesus, is perfectly aware of the resurrection, dutifully punishes people God deems unworthy, and all in all is one of the main players in the service of Christianity.
ReplyDeleteSo shouldn't Satan get the full red-carpet treatment, a platinum-plated visa, combined with an indefinite VIP stay at oh, say, Trump Tower?