Now the part you want to hone in on is at the 3:45 mark, where Carson shares this:
In the speech -- given at Andrews University, a school with ties to Carson's Seventh-day Adventist faith -- the neurosurgeon shot down claim that aliens had built the pyramids. But he also disagreed with the archaeological consensus that the pyramids were constructed as tombs for the pharaohs.
“My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,” Carson said. “Now all the archaeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.”
“And when you look at the way that the pyramids are made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they’d have to be that way for various reasons," Carson said. "And various of scientists have said, ‘well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that’s how-’ you know, it doesn’t require an alien being when God is with you.”
So Carson argues that the Biblical character Joseph built the pyramids based on his reading of the Bible, and of course his own theories which were apparently pulled directly out of his ass.
So after this video came to light CBS News asked Carson if he continued to stand by this "theory:"
Asked about this Wednesday, Carson told CBS News, "It's still my belief, yes."
Need I mention that Carson is still running neck and neck with Trump for the GOP nomination?
Perhaps I should also mention that not only is there no evidence that the Biblical Joseph built the pyramids, there is no evidence of the existence of Joseph himself, and then of course there's this:
Yeah, nothing frightening about that.
The line about "Odd for the Egyptians who kept records on everything" is ignorant and does not lend credence to the "zero evidence" claim. Most Egyptian records were obliterated with the destruction of the Library of Alexandria.
ReplyDeleteAlthough the various component parts of the physical library were destroyed, in fact the centres of academic excellence had already moved to various capital cities. Furthermore, it is possible that most of the material from the Library of Alexandria actually survived, by way of the Imperial Library of Constantinople, the Academy of Gondishapur, and the House of Wisdom.
DeleteTrue 9:24, they were destroyed, but there is one factor you seem to be ignoring. NONE of the EXISTING records contradict Gryphen's posted quote.
DeleteAnd just because those libraried records were destroyed, doesn't mean the statement you quoted is wrong, either. As far as egyptologists can tell, the ancient Egyptians kept records as well as, if not better than, the Romans. The minutiae included in the records that have been found lends far more credence to Gryphen's quoted line than your "is ignorant and does not lend credence to the "zero evidence" claim."
Nothing found to date (that I am aware of) contradicts - in any way - Gryphen's posted line about it being "Odd for the Egyptians who kept records on everything."
So to sum this up: What Gryphen posted is accurate and even though the records were destroyed, it was only those IN the library which burned.
Of the records which survive, there is NO evidence which contradicts G's post. Were there any records in the library which might contradict G's statement? Perhaps. But as you point out - they were all destroyed.
Anonymous 9:24 AM wrote in part: Most Egyptian records were obliterated with the destruction of the Library of Alexandria.
DeleteThat's sort of like suggesting that if 101 Independence Ave SE, Washington, DC and vicinity were destroyed there would be no remaining records of African slaves in the U.S. If there really were Hebrew slaves in Egypt, mention of them would not be confined to the national library.
The claimed size of the Hebrew presence in Egypt (nearly a quarter of the population) means that these people would have been part of most Egyptians' daily life. Can you imagine a tally sheet from a slave auction being stored only in the Library of Congress?
Accordinng to this article in Haaretz, http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/the-jewish-thinker/were-jews-ever-really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.420844
The reality is that there is no evidence whatsoever that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. Yes, there's the story contained within the bible itself, but that's not a remotely historically admissible source. I'm talking about real proof; archeological evidence, state records and primary sources. Of these, nothing exists.
Not to mention (from the same article): Even if we take the earliest possible date for Jewish slavery that the Bible suggests, the Jews were enslaved in Egypt a good three hundred years after the 1750 B.C. completion date of the pyramids.
Ted, go back to your room!!
DeleteTed, go back to your room!!
DeleteYou must be confused. That's where my computers are.
Carson is right in line with the other GOP candidates since they act and think like children.
ReplyDeleteThis stuff will hang him. Joseph built the pyramids? Where's the grain? Oh yeah, the sealed chamber are full of mummified kings.
ReplyDeleteFAIL
Grain is one of the many things one would need for the journey to the next life. He may have been a good doctor and surgeon but he didn't may much attention to other facts.
DeleteThis is OT, except as it is another "insane idea." Trig Palin must have a birth certificate, yet I have not heard of anyone that has seen it. There are only the claims of the people he is said to live with. All children need to be able to have legal, proper and available documentation. Anything less is a form of child abuse for the hell it can create in a child's life to be undocumented. Legal adoptions can be wonderful, the shady deals that can happen and be hidden are a serious matter.
ReplyDeleteNovember is a good month to pay attention to this matter.
REMINDER:
November is National Adoption Month
http://www.ibtimes.com/national-adoption-awareness-month-2015-facts-foster-youth-never-outgrow-need-family-2165164
This is an interesting news item. Julian has no recollection of being kidnapped. There are many missing and exploited children with difficult and crazy family situations.
Julian Hernandez (18), from Cleveland, Ohio.
http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6773352.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Julian-Hernandez-missing-person-poster.jpg
Missing and Exploited Children
http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/waaytv.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/ef/3ef16de6-835c-11e5-9f5e-6ff449e11fc4/563ab07c6f366.image.png?resize=1200%2C675
Taking a kid that isn't yours; kidnapping. Also called 'Surprise Adoption'.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Surprise+Adoption
Would it have been too hard to wait another ten seconds for the next Palin post to write that comment? Jeez!
DeleteAgreed, 10:21 AM.
DeleteSHEESH!
You might like the sane idea of "What If Sarah Palin Were A Brain Surgeon?" down thread.
DeleteI don't have a problem with people posting off-topic comments. I'm sure I'm not alone.
DeleteHow clever of you two to post your comments instead of just scrolling past the off-topic comment. *snort*
"Jeez!"
"SHEESH!"
What a couple of NIMRODS you two are.
Back on topic of the off topic. Adoptions can be a beautiful thing. But I'm living in a small town that's been engaging a it's fair share of "kid swapping". When one mother is too drugged out to take care of her kids they get passed to the next available not as stoned woman. After a couple generations of "takin care of their own" these bumkins can't figure out who they're really diddling anymore.
DeleteOnce again, proper, legal adoptions can be a wonderful thing.
Dear 11:43,
DeleteFuck off and die, Palin-obsessed Freak.
I hope there isn't anyone here with a problem with those that curse when they have nothing intelligent to express.
DeleteI couldn't care less about the Palins but thanks for sharing, Bristol.Wannabe 1:11
DeletePaging Miss Manners. Paging Miss Manners. Cleanup on aisle nine.
What is so disturbing to 111 that they need to say for someone to die? How thin skinned for a no biggie.
DeleteLike any IM'er has a problem with Palin references? This is a Palin-centric blog after all.
DeleteWe all know Bristol is working hard at the job where they really like her. She could still be on her lunch hour at 1:11 PM. That is her signature lingo and communication style.
DeleteI haven't seen anything about Tripp and his Halloween costume and the fun they had carving pumpkins. One would think that would be more meaningful to share than the silly My Dining Room is Coming Along! Are you sure she hasn't had her baby? She is in labor and a bit testy? What's her problem?
So tired of Palin obsessed people dragging Palin into every thread.
DeleteAdios Amigo
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucvcoWMFmW8
@ 4:35 AM and whatnots
Carson's crazy train ran off of the rails long ago.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I disagree. As far as I can tell, that crazy train is going strong and moving faster every day!
DeleteI'm so thankful we've had our black guy, President Obama, in office for near his full two terms!
DeleteThis black guy, Carson, is an embarrassment to himself, other black folks and America!
Don't worry! He'll never be THE candidate for POTUS on the Republican side (for 2016). I have no clue who they will put up, but in no way will it be Carson. He's inept, a proven liar (already!) and knows nothing about stating FACTS!
Man oh man, he reminds me of, and smacks of, Sarah Palin if I recall her political history correctly.
What is wrong with Republicans?
I know nothing of the Seventh-day Adventists, except a quickie that said they accept the Bible as the only source of their beliefs. Noun: a member of a Protestant sect that preaches the imminent return of Christ to Earth (originally expecting the Second Coming in 1844) and observes Saturday as the sabbath.
DeleteDidn't Chuck Heath teach a science class while Sally was the religious one? Sarah held back on the details of many of her beliefs when she was campaigning. What a discussion she and Ben could have if they didn't have to hold back on their beliefs regarding science and godtalk.
No wonder more people are giving up on religion. It's a farce to be used by the craziest charlatans. Thanks Ben and Sarah.
He is a human Ambien.
ReplyDeleteBen Carson said: “Now all the archaeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.”
ReplyDeleteAs many times as I read that, I still don't what Carson means by it. It's all blather.
I had the same problem, he is just talking to talk. He should watch PBS, they already demonstrated how the pyramids were built.
DeleteCan you image how he would process something complex like nuclear disarmament.
this guy makes palin look sane by comparison.
It's word salad and just as crazy as Palin's. Sadly, most of us have gotten used to decoding hers, while the crazy is fresh and overwhelming in his.
DeleteLet's not stretch it now.
DeleteSo where's all the grain lame brain surgeon.
DeleteI suppose the many, many artifacts and all were put in there with the grain to scare the bugs and varmints away from ruining their stored product.
DeletePyramids as grain silos = Worst.Grain.Storage.Ever.
ReplyDeleteThe man obviously has not ever seen a diagram of the inside of one of those puppies.
BTW, the satellite picture I saw was from a scientific site not a religion site. I can't remember where it was. It also only confirms that many things passed that way to make the trail. It doesn't confirm what or when.
DeleteExactly what I was thinking.
DeleteExactly how much grain do you think you can put in those little chambers, even if you fill all of the tunnels?
You can't save seven years worth of grain for the entire Egyptian nation. And who would save grain centrally? They had silos across the entire nation. Distribution points.
The only thing that surprises me is that Carson was actually a neurosurgeon. I can't believe any credible institution awarded him a medical degree or that he passed any board certification.
I keep wondering how reasonably able news commentators keep talking about how Carson was such a "brilliant surgeon," as if that questionable fact resolves the issue of his total looniness and ignorance of history, government, foreign affairs, economics, etc.
DeleteBeaglemom
Having been in one of the pyramids, I can attest to the very small chambers in there. Some people struggled to get through the small passages. Carson is on the crazy train.
DeleteAll I know is that in the immortal words of Jimmy Buffett, I would never let him cut on me.
DeleteHow in the world did this moron become a brain surgeon. The pyramids are so old that they were ancient tourist attractions by the time of 'Joseph' and definitely by the reign of Rammses the Great.
ReplyDeleteThere have been documentaries dedicated to the engineering involved. Good grief. The sheerror stupidity!!!
I've met many PhDs, brilliant in their own sphere of study, who are completely clueless about how the rest of the world works. Renaissance people are harder to find these days because to become a doctor (or PhD) requires such devotion to minutiae there's little time to think about anything else.
DeleteIn Carson's case it does appear that drugs and the onset of dementia may have something to do with it, also, too ;)
Well, speaking of silos, there was an unfortunate movement in higher Ed that coincides with CArson's undergrad
DeleteA med pre-med major woildntake almost exclusively pre-med classes. A very narrow and inadequate education for a citizen. Ok for a technician though.
Perhaps God is an alien being to peeps like this Benjamin Solomon dude? Is he some kind of a savant?
ReplyDelete"What If Sarah Palin Were A Brain Surgeon?"
http://bitchypundit.com/2015/04/05/ben-carson-idiot-savant/
Carson isn't so much stupid, as he is mentally disturbed.
DeleteWake up America! There is something very disturbing about this fella.
We know all about the other so called candidates and have no doubts about their evil motives.
If ever I was to believe in alien life- this guy would be all the proof needed.
DeleteThere are satellite pictures that show an ancient trail that was travelled by many of something in the area that the Exodus was supposed to have taken place. Similarly the satellite pictures show the old Trail of Tears as well. It is interesting, but I don't have a link at the moment.
ReplyDeleteIt's not surprising there is an ancient trail where the Exodus was supposed to have taken place. It doesn't prove the bible is correct.
DeleteNo, but I carefully said many of "something."
DeleteSo why bring it up?
DeleteCan you say 'Trade Routes'? Because that is what that was. There have been many such ancient, lost routes recorded via satellite photography.
DeleteOh, and so far there has been only one authenticated reference to the Israelites found from ancient sources in Egypt: they are mentioned as being among the numerous peoples beat in battle by one of the Pharaohs. This achievement was carved on the side of either a palace or a temple.
DeleteThose trails were most likely trade routes. Not like they had paved roads or highways at that time.
DeleteI have the links you're talking about, but I can't find them at this moment. I'm getting sloppy in my old age, what can I say? Oh wait, Found Them!!!
DeleteOne passage. Even of many would not cause such an earth scar. A trail used often over many years would.
DeleteLooks like he may have even fabricated his "violent" childhood as well:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html
The archaeological evidence is based on exploration and scientific analysis. Ben Carson needs to denigrate science to keep himself in the warm cocoon of biblical fables.
ReplyDeleteBen Carson needs the bible to confirm his opinion that he is superior by divine right. He needs to keep women suppressed and the bible does that for him. Puffing up the tale of Joseph is just a smoke screen. He proffers "facts" to support an unimportant story. That way (in his mind) the whole bible (with all the good bits slamming women) is somehow made more "true".
Preachers have pulled this stunt from the very first day someone figured out that a "bible" is a sure fire money maker for PREACHERS.
Carson makes lots of good points, if you want to ignore facts.
ReplyDelete.... and those points are what? spill
DeleteLol 10:19! He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good story. He's a loon.
DeleteSure he does.
DeleteName one.
I keep thinking about this man performing an operation on you: maybe you didn't even know it, if your regular surgeon was out that day, or had this guy assist. Yikes!
ReplyDeleteI've been inside the Great Pyramid of Giza. I think that it took like 4,000 people 20 years to build it, and it weighs something like 6 million tons. This was 30 years ago that I visited, but as I recall, you go into the entrance, go up a long, long, narrow stairway, until you come to a very small room. It was quite anticlimactic, as I recall, and I cannot imagine a more inconvenient or inefficient way to store grain. Why would anyone put that many resources into creating such a small storage area? It makes no sense whatsoever. Ben Carson probably has never set foot off of American soil.........I'm guessing that he is a believer in American Exceptionalism.......but he feels perfectly comfortable in making this analysis on the pyramids from his American Armchair, because, you know, we Americans are the best at everything just naturally. Why, I imagine that a Christian Evangelical with a homeschool background is twice as smart as any world renowned archaeologist! And I'm beginning to wonder if Ben Carson's education was of the home school, send-away for a college degree in the back of a magazine type! Did any of his patients survive their surgeries? I think at this point, someone should really look into that!
ReplyDeleteCarson may have thought they just took the top off and poured the grain in a hollow vessel. I doubt it would matter to him how the grain got to the top.
DeleteThank you, @10:56! I just posted something similar above. It is very tiny in there!
DeleteMy preferred theory remains some sort of dementia and/or mental illness.
DeleteCarson, I mean. Not the pyramids. Apart from having teeny tiny chambers, the pyramids were adorned with hieroglyphics that explain things. Anubis was not pressed into service as a sentry to protect a bunch of grain.
--mathgeek
Since all the GOP candidates flaunt their Christian creds, I think the next debate should be all about religion. Let each candidate discuss his heart-felt beliefs and how those would influence his decisions in government. Then they can fight it out over whose religion is the real one.
ReplyDeleteCarson is so out of the mainstream as far as science and general knowledge is concerned, he appears to be just plain stupid. Also I think he is on qualudes.
Hillary Clinton: Anchored by Faith
Deletehttp://time.com/2927925/hillary-clintons-religion/
qualudes. Yeah, he may be more loaded than Track Palin.
DeleteWhat other "beliefs" do the 7th Day folks hold? I know they don't reecognize any of the Christian holidays and hold their sabbath on Saturday. That might be hard to maintain at the White House.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that is interesting.....they do NOT celebrate Xmas and what would Sarah and her ilk think of that!
Delete"Seventh-day Adventists do not celebrate Christmas or other religious festivals throughout the calendar year as holy feasts established by God. The only period in time Adventists celebrate as holy is the weekly Sabbath (from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset)."
Sarah's Jewish friend's religion doesn't do the Jesus birthday cakes, trees and all the messiah stuff. She be cool that he is Christian, just not as Christian as she, Bristol and her family. She be praying about it.
DeleteI agree with you, 10:56 AM First thing we heard about this Carson guy is what a good surgeon he was. Who said it and verified it?
ReplyDeleteHe sure comes across as being a first class idiot! All you have to do is review his commentary for the past couple of months.
What in the Hell is wrong with Republicans and these polls that supposedly show he and Trump in first and second place? Would love to hear the questions asked of these people that are contacted!
Thank God, Hillary Clinton will be running - as I'm sure she will be elected! Can you imagine The Donald or this Carson guy handling national security issues?
I think the republicans are just in awe of the fact that a black person could actually be a neurosurgeon.
DeleteIs he the one someone said was going to be the first black president?
DeleteYou have to bear in mind that many polls are among "likely Republican voters" and are conducted via land lines, so essentially the only opinions being expressed in those polls are those of old white people.
Delete"I think the republicans are just in awe of the fact that a black person could actually be a neurosurgeon".
DeleteThe hospital (world renowned) that I worked at for almost 30 years had black neurosurgeon working there for many years until she retired.
She operated on and saved the life of a child who no other neurosurgeon in this country would touch.
I know there are Black neurosurgeons. I'm saying that Republicans didn't think it was possible...until Ben Carson.
DeleteWhatever color, he is TEA PARTY. GOP is not above using him to boost their cred with minorities and be able to say there are no racist in their party.
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Hillary (or other Dem) will only be elected if sane voters get off their butts and go out and vote. After seeing the 13% participation in my town for last week's election I'm not optimistic.
DeleteCarson thinks scientists believe aliens from outer space built the pyramids?!?
ReplyDeleteI had the same reaction. I've never heard of a scientist who thinks aliens build the pyramids. Maybe in Carson's head but no where else.
DeleteBeaglemom
What ever he believes it has to fit in with the Bible beliefs of the goofy religion he uses.
DeleteThat struck me as "WTF" as well. Maybe he is confusing what he hears on the History Channel with real science.
DeleteThis person is so totally "out there". Perfect hero for the cons. Jeez. Religion really makes people crazy.
ReplyDeletePat Padrnos
This is my take on Dr Carson - he does not really want to be president. Like Trump, this was more of a publicity tour than a campaign tour. From the beginning he has been saying things that were really bizarre (so he would get voted off the island?). Taking time off the campaign trail to do a book tour was a big hint. Unfortunately for Dr Carson - but fortunately for comedians everywhere - he is starting to that he will get the nomination. I believe he caters his statements to his audience. I sincerely doubt he really believes any of this nonsense but it keeps his name in the press. This is just another form of wingnut welfare - he can now trade on, not just his reputation as a surgeon who separated conjoined twins, but as a former candidate. His books will sell more for the political side than the medical side because the right wind nutjobs he is catering too care more about the politics than the people.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Kerry. The man is on a book tour. Oh, and I heard on the Ed Schulz podcast this week that Carly Fiorina has signed with a speaker's bureau in D.C. So she's not really running either.
DeleteIf Sarah Palin is a leader it is to lead the crazies in how to scam the American public. Like Palin, Carson is going to get his own slush fund and so on. He can write more books with faked stories, he can take up knitting and sell little hats for cats and charge a fortune for a name recognition.
DeleteNot that he will be the big failure that she is with her PAC or her family. They do see what she has done with all that and how it worked to keep her making money and to branch out with the Mini Me deals.
Bad news for Republican voters: Dr. Ben Carson might not have been a “thug” who was saved by Jesus in his Detroit bathroom.
ReplyDeleteCNN was unable to corroborate the tear-stained stories of redemption Seventh-day Adventist Ben Carson tells on the trail, from attempted stabbings to top polling GOP presidential candidate.
On the hunt in the 2016 Republican presidential candidate’s native home of Southwestern Detroit, CNN talked to nine neighbors and friends trying to find anyone who recalled the “pathological temper” Carson describes in his book, “Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story”.
Nobody recalls that Ben Carson. No one remembers the Ben Carson who supposedly tried to attack his mother with a hammer or punched a classmate in the face or hurling a rock and smashing the nose of a young boy.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/05/ben-carson-thug-saved-bathroom.html
This one is a doozy, not in a good way. I am so glad he and Trump are on par with one another.
ReplyDeleteCarson has no knowledge of hieroglyphics? Does he think all the walls say 'grain storage'?
This idiot is crazier than a shithouse rat. Keep talkin' Uncle Ben.
ReplyDeleteThat's what you're good at. It's going to be a great feeling when this charlatan is exposed as the fool he actually is.
For a smart man, he's really stupid. What he proves more than anything, is global warming because I don't see one plant that produces grain within miles of those structures. Was this the Joseph with the tres fab coat of many colors? I just want to know what drugs Joseph and Ben were/are on?
ReplyDeleteThis guy is too gullible to be President. Don't know, nor care, what kind of brain surgeon he once was.
Chris Matthews is baffled. Very baffled with this Carson character.
ReplyDeleteAnother example verifying the average republican voter is very cray cray
ReplyDelete++++++++++++
DeleteI think the next constitutional amendment should be that any candidate running for President or Congress must be an Atheist.
ReplyDeleteI know they are "unelectable" which is why it would require an amendment.
That would at least level the playing field.
And while you can't require a test in civics to be passed to vote, I don't know of any restriction on requiring candidates for political office to have to pass a civics test to at least prove they have a rudimentary understanding of our laws and how the government is supposed to work.
Rather than continuing to laugh at Carson, it is time to seriously consider whether or not someone with such views and opinions has the judgment to be president.
ReplyDeleteAsked and answered
DeleteIs there really anything to consider? Isn't the answer obvious?
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