Saturday, February 27, 2016

Well it's a good thing that Bristol Palin does not live in Illinois.

Courtesy of Bipartisan Report: 

Republican representatives John D Cavaletto and Keith Wheeler sponsored the bill that would amend the state’s Vital Records Act. Here is the bill’s draconian thrust: 

‘…provides that if the unmarried mother cannot or refuses to name the child’s father, either a father must be conclusively established by DNA evidence or, within 30 days after birth, another family member who will financially provide for the child must be named, in court, on the birth certificate.’ 

‘Provides that absent DNA evidence or a family member’s name, a birth certificate will not be issued and the mother will be ineligible for financial aid from the State for support of the child.’

This the kind of thing that might actually keep Bristol from throwing her panties at every Tom, Joey, and Dakota.

However on the serious side this is an extremely punitive bill that would place a victim of rape, or incest, in a terrible situation.

 And there is NO reason to punish a child for a situation that is clearly no fault of their own.

Just another bill written by men to punish women, and their children, while letting the man get off scott free, if he makes his escape quickly enough that is.

119 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:05 AM

    Actually I read this differently. It is forcing men to be identified and it seems for child support before just giving the mom state money. I think this holds the fathers accountable too. I do agree on the rape/incest/child piece and that would have to have some sort of exception process.

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    1. Anonymous6:51 AM

      Agreed.

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    2. Anonymous8:12 AM

      2nd agreement.

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    3. How does one report the name of the father of a child born of rape? Also, too,this bill does punish the child for just being born.

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    4. Anonymous9:43 AM

      Then your comprehension is off. Why do you hinla single mother, who decides to have a child via sperm donor cannot support a child? Denial of a bier cert. Is much more than denial of state benefits. These javkasses are misogynists. I suggest you reconsider your position of support.

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    5. Anonymous10:58 AM

      HUH, 9:43 AM?

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    6. Anonymous11:24 AM

      ‘Provides that absent DNA evidence or a family member’s name, a birth certificate will not be issued and the mother will be ineligible for financial aid from the State for support of the child.’

      Well, that is one very good reason for aborting a pregnancy that resulted from rape. Another good reason to abort a pregnancy is when a women KNOWS she can not endure having to co-parent for 18 years with a sociopath.

      And, just exactly, what can a child without a birth certificate do? Register for school? Get a job? Get a social security card? Is the kid supposed to erase himself/herself from the planet earth to make this lawmaker happy?

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    7. Anonymous2:42 PM

      943 ok Sarah we get it! someone told you to reconsider your position of support! who was that since you seem more concerned with what than who my dear!

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  2. Anonymous6:09 AM

    "However on the serious side this is an extremely punitive bill that would place a victim of rape, or incest, in a terrible situation"


    Ya mean like the time high school student Barstool consumed wine coolers and was raped in her canvas tent?

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  3. Anonymous6:24 AM

    Another excellent reason why unmarried Bristol should not live in Illinois

    1. Alaska -
    Bastard Tripp conceived

    2. Las Vegas -
    Bastard Sailor conceived

    3. Illinois -
    Another bastard would be conceived

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    1. Anonymous8:55 AM

      Another excellent reason that Bristol should not live in Illinois:

      Because I DO and I don't want her here!

      A Fan From Chicago

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  4. Anonymous6:28 AM

    Gryph what does that stranger in that picture you posted above have to do with Bristol?

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    1. Anonymous6:50 AM

      That pic is the perfect depiction of one Bristol Palin no matter that she purposely rearranged her face because her god's handiwork wasn't good enough to suit her.

      What has she done but cry and whine over circumstances that she brought on herself? She is no victim; she needs to grow the hell up!

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    2. Stranger? Barstool before she got her chin implant. But, you're right. The Dysfunctional Palins could not get any stranger.

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    3. Anita Winecooler4:41 PM

      That was before the ahem toilet plunger accident er "medically necessary jaw alignment surgery" Don't know if you recall during DWTS, she began losing a ton of weight and was rushed to the hospital for planned emergency plastic surgery /s
      Poor thing.

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    4. Anonymous2:43 PM

      oh oh oh Jamies Crying

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  5. I think most, if not all states, already require that a woman provide information to establish paternity. There are exceptions for rape, incest and domestic violence but if she refuses to cooperate there are sanctions placed on the mother but not the children. If I'm not mistaken, this is already a federal regulation under TANF. But leave it to snacilbupeR to try and out mean each other.

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    1. Anonymous8:35 AM

      But to prohibit to issue the child a birth certificate is discriminatory, and a challenge in court would deem it unconstitutional. You cannot discriminate against the innocent child based on the actions of his or her parents. It's a total waste of taxpayer money.

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    2. Anonymous10:56 AM

      You aren't reading correctly. This is about ALL mothers. Even those of sufficient means to have as many kids as they want and provide for them. It essentially says women cannot be self sufficient and responsible adults.

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    3. Anonymous12:45 PM

      So lesbian couples wouldn't be able to have a birth certificate for their child, but a male gay couple could? (Didn't see where the mother's name is required). There is no right to deny a child their birth certificate (how would they go to school? get state ID? even if there was never any thought to get your lousy welfare benefits? You can't deny a citizen the right to have a birth certificate because paternity wasn't established within 30 days of birth. Seems that some in this country really, really want an illegal group of people to hate and deprive rights to, and now it is the unaborted babies who were abandoned by their fathers. We can make a whole class of slave workers from children without legal paperwork.

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    4. snacilbupeR - I like it lot!!

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  6. Anonymous6:38 AM

    I think the bill is an attempt to hold men accountable for cs. Unfortunately, there are couples who deliberately do not identify the father, in order to prevent the state from going after him for some of the welfare given to the mother.

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    1. Anonymous8:08 AM

      This also overlooks that even in the cases where the mother provides the name, address, SSN, telephone number, and workplace of the father...all too often, the father skates away from his child support obligation to his children.

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    2. Anonymous8:13 AM

      Yep.

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    3. Anonymous8:20 AM

      Locking up unemployed deadbeat fathers costs a lot less than free birth control to prevent the problem.

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    4. Anonymous9:09 AM

      Unfortunately, free birth control doesn't solve the problem when people get pregnant on purpose. It wouldn't have stopped Bristol.

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  7. Anonymous6:45 AM

    I wager that she will have another out of wedlock baby. How many have she had so far? Rumor is she has had 3 or 4.

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    1. Anonymous7:30 AM

      Rumor=6

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    2. Anonymous7:42 AM

      She is not done yet. She always needs a child, to get attntion from the tabloids. Wait until all these children grow up, and ask where their fathers are, plus read about her antics on the internet. Some role model for children.

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    3. Anonymous9:15 AM

      yes, as soon as the money runs out from "marketing" Sailor, she will have a replacement.

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    4. Anonymous2:31 PM

      Unless she has had a two-bull, my bet is less than 2 years.

      It's kind of like drugs. The new baby will not "produce the effect" she is used to since the Palins are not as "popular" as they used to be.

      The Brand is worth all but nothing. So through no fault of poor sweet Sailor, Bristol will not get the "hit" she needs to feed her ego.

      Therefore, she'll go for another infant much sooner than previously.

      (And not wait the 6 years some have said with Tripp going to school and not being her "baby" any more.)

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  8. If Dakota gets custody for any lengthy bit of time look for the Pregnancy Princess to come up prego again, in short order. Boy, would she make a great three time loser.

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    1. Anonymous7:45 AM

      She is a 4 time loser.

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  9. Anonymous6:58 AM

    ''Just another bill written by men to punish women, and their children, while letting the man get off scott free, if he makes his escape quickly enough that is.''

    The man will not get off scott free if the mother names him. If she does not name him, then she is the one punishing her child(ren).
    Some of these women do not want to name the father, to keep the DA from collecting child support from him.



    I am not talking about rape cases. That is just tragic all around.

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    1. Anonymous7:50 AM

      Except you are talking about rape and incest cases also. Very few rapes are reported. Do you know anyone that has been raped? I bet your answer would be no, but you do. You work with women that have been raped, you get waited on in restaurants by women that have been raped, you have been treated by nurses and Doctors that have been raped, heck statistically you sit at a holiday table and eat with a relative who has been raped. Sorry, I tried to report a rape and I would never encourage anyone to try and do so. Our system is not kind to victims of sexual assault, nor does the system really care since 100's of thousands of rape kits in this country right now are sitting around untested.
      So please, tell me just how you are going to know if the person applying for assistance has been sexually assaulted? Are you going to require them to report? To be humiliated, to get called a liar by the police? What about the women raped by the police? Should they report it directly to their rapist?
      No, this is just another law to hurt women and children.

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    2. Anonymous8:16 AM

      Oh please, 7:50. You are really, really stretching on this.
      And, I am a victim, by the way.

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    3. Anonymous8:46 AM

      Good post. Let's not forget abusive men the woman is trying to hide from. Also, due to the difficulty states have made in getting a legal abortion, many women or girls will end up having forced births. Naming a father or a family member on a child's birth certificate is assinine. You can't hold the birth certificate hostage. The need for information on the father should be asked ONLY if the mother applies for state assistance. Other than that, it's no one's business other than the mother and her child.

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    4. Anonymous9:38 AM

      @ 8:16 am
      I am "stretching nothing" and you know it. Rapists have also been given custody rights of their children by our court system so please now tell me who would name their rapist ( if known) to social services when it would just put their child in danger.

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    5. Anonymous2:45 PM

      oh back in the oil days in Anchorage there was a group of Natives that if they even heard a PEEP about rape - race didn't matter they went 'hunting' as they called it! Folks were found in rivers in the inlet at the bottom of mountains...oops!

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  10. Anonymous7:16 AM

    That is a terrible bill. Not just in tragic cases but parents of both genders walk away every day. Bristol is lucky she will never be in that situation. Since you mentioned her. She's lucky she knows and respects respectful fathers. She also knows she's never once denied Dakota his child.

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    1. Anonymous7:29 AM

      Can you please elaborate on the conditions Bristol demanded in order for Dakota to meet Sailor?

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    2. She also knows that Dakota never wants to see her again... and she (possibly) knows who Sailor's father is. At least within a limited number of possibilities... six or seven, maybe? With Barstool, who knows?

      Still believing that Sailor is not Dakota's kid... and he knew he couldn't be her father and that's why he broke off the engagement mere days before the wedding.

      I'm glad Kentucky requires a DNA test. I'm betting that she's holding off on getting one and he's not going to fly to Alaska in order to collect one for private testing, because then Barstool would claim it means he "knows" he's the father.

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    3. Anonymous7:43 AM

      Why is Dakota keeping quiet if he is the father?

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    4. Anonymous7:52 AM

      Bristol will most likely be on welfare in her future. As for not denying her baby daddy's from seeing their children, she certainly did with Levi and wants to set the rules for Dakota ( which isn't her right). So yes, Bristol is denying Dakota time with his child if he doesn't play her games.

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    5. Anonymous8:05 AM

      February 27 Bristol doesn't need birth certificates, the truth is coming out!! BFF porn model reveals...

      February 24, 2016 9:22pm 'These babies are my world and I will always be doing what is best for them.' Bristol Palin

      marina_exotix_llc 2 days ago
      If they only knew ... All this media brain washed people :-( ... The truth will come out soon @bsmp2....
      I know one thing for sure ... Soon enough all the truth will come to light and when a father dose not see their child .... In this case is truly by choice . I know u reached out on daily basis

      rachel_arn11 about 5 hours ago
      You can stop lying now. You clearly tried to take away your son's father by only allowing him "visitation" and you're doing the same now with your daughter's father. Fathers should be allowed to have equal access to their children-- not just when you seem appropriate. After all, it is HIS child too. Pretty sure you didn't reproduce asexually ;). Please grow up for your children's sake. Oh and one more thing, being a medal of honor does NOT mean you shouldn't ask or receive child support. Women claim they need child support for the children, so men should be allowed to too. You're double standards and fake-ness are so obvious. #fathersrights #parental alienation #youreahypocrite

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    6. Anonymous8:48 AM

      The overreacting, defensive Bristol Palin
      http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2016/02/bristol-palin-seems-to-be-more-than.html

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    7. Anonymous9:13 AM

      She's lucky she knows and respects respectful fathers. She also knows she's never once denied Dakota his child.
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      Hogwash !!! Revenge is Bristol's middle name.

      She used Tripp to punish Levi because he moved on and she is using Sailor to punish Dakota because he dumped her.

      If she respected the fathers, they would not have to resort to custody battles and court orders in order to see their children.

      Unfortunately for Bristol, the fathers are adults and unwilling to play her juvenile games.

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    8. "Anonymous7:43 AM Why is Dakota keeping quiet if he is the father?"
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      Possibly because he has a smart lawyer who told their client "I will represent you only if you follow my instructions to the letter. We will first determine conclusively whether or not you are the father. If you are not, we will request that the court enter a finding that this is so, and that you are not liable for the care and maintenance of the child. If you are the father, we will petition for a reasonable custody and visitation agreement. In the meantime, you will. not. say. a. word. publicly about this case. You will say nothing about the child's mother. You will say nothing about your relationship with the child's mother. You will not provide any information which can be used or distorted to put you in a bad light. You will obey these instructions and if you do not, I will remove myself from your case. I am a professional in contested child custody cases, I know what needs to be done to achieve your desired outcome, and I simply will not waste my time on a case made more difficult by a client's stupid behavior and big mouth."

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    9. Anonymous10:55 AM

      Bingo, Nefer.

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    10. Anonymous10:57 AM

      What truth Marina?

      Marina will prove herself to be a bullshitter of the lowlife Anchorage open for business 24/7 type. She said that to try and intimidate someone like Dakota or another baby daddy prospect.

      I betcha she wants them to think they are going to unleash the garbage they have on them if they don't obey the Republican Palin regime.

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    11. Anonymous3:36 PM

      Here is my 2 Cents.

      1) Dakota is not the father. Think about this. If he thought he was he would not have waited 2 months to put in the immediate/expedited court order request.

      Wouldn't you, if you thought that was your child, have asked for an expedited DNA testing with immediate visitation rights so that you could be with your infant child ASAP?

      Included in the paperwork would be that FACT the mother has already excluded you from your child's birth and you should not be denied these precious first days of life with your child.

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    12. Anonymous3:46 PM

      More 2 cents. I tend to get wordy when I'm irritated and this whole Bristol / Sarah thing really irritates me.

      2) Nothing says Marina is telling the truth. And nothing says Marina isn't talking about another man.

      3) They totally were blind sided by Dakota seeking custody and going to court. TOTALLY.

      Sarah and Bristol were expecting him to go quietly away and to be intimidated by them.

      Maybe they can't read, we all read it. Dakota is Never Outgunned. Period.

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    13. Anonymous3:53 PM

      6) Nefer is right. Dakota is used to and very good at following orders. He will do just what his attorney says.

      7) I concede that it's possible Dakota is the father, but I very much doubt it. She looked prego to me from very early on.

      8) The whole engagement was a farce from Day One. Though I think Dakota was smitten and did love her. And was tickled pink with having Tripp as a buddy.

      Bristol never much cared for him.

      9) They both used each other and deserve what they get. But Sailor and Tripp are innocent victims.


      That's it from me. Sorry if the numbering is off. Bad internet connection and it's stop, start, stop, start while I type.

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  11. Anonymous7:16 AM

    The point is that would be impossible to keep BCs from children.

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  12. Anonymous7:17 AM

    Also too
    Bristol Palin has her hands full with two kids and two custody battles. The former abstinence advocate may soon have to hand her newborn daughter over to the child’s father for visitation. 2-27-16

    Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/2833242/bristol-palin-deals-with-more-baby-daddy-drama-as-dakota-meyer-files-emergency-motion-to-see-newborn-daughter/

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    1. Anonymous7:36 AM

      This was definitely worth a read
      and The Skinny video. It stated that there were rumors of Dakota asking for child support but his attorney said that was not true. Also, the article states Bristol has not named the father of her baby yet.
      Who knows what to believe?

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    2. Anonymous8:16 AM

      A trial setting conference is set for March 30 for Bristol Palin and Dakota Meyer’s custody case. Check out the video below for more on the ex-couple’s custody battle.
      http://www.inquisitr.com/2833242/bristol-palin-deals-with-more-baby-daddy-drama-as-dakota-meyer-files-emergency-motion-to-see-newborn-daughter/

      As for other Palin court matters a pre-trial conference for March 14th at 8:30. The trial call, which is the first time that Track can get a pleas deal, is set for March 24, 2016.
      http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2016/02/video-of-track-palins-pre-trial.html

      Check out Wasilla mugshots and ask why Track Palin has special treatment.
      http://whatwouldjackdo.net/images/2vets.jpg

      Mugshots in Wasilla, AK
      http://www.mugshotsonline.com/alaska/wasilla

      Meet Jordan Loewe (and learn about her injuries from a hospital visit)
      http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/scandals/jordan-loewe-track-palins-girlfriend/

      Head injury and severe trauma.

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    3. Paul Reveer8:23 AM

      A Palin could never tell a lie. Get the facts wrong? That's a different thing!

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    4. Anonymous8:42 AM

      Affidavit - Track Palin

      http://d14rj7v0r2qnrv.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/19173933/palin-track.pdf

      The police report paints a confusing and chaotic picture.

      Sarah’s latest political opportunity
      http://www.heraldonline.com/opinion/9f79rv/picture56134230/ALTERNATES/LANDSCAPE_1140/Palin%20and%20Palin

      According to the police report, the girlfriend was found upstairs in the house, hiding under a bed, crying. She also had an eye injury from where she said her boyfriend had punched her with a closed fist.
      http://www.heraldonline.com/opinion/article56134235.html

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  13. Anonymous7:17 AM

    The bill is surely a non-starter: it flies in the face of the fundamental principle that support -- be it parental or state -- is a right of the child.
    But is there any doubt that the very public bad behavior of Bristol & her teen mom are fueling the kind of sentiment that led to this?

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    1. Anonymous8:06 AM

      The fundamentalists only support the child before it is born. Fundamentalists and other Republicans do not want to support, in any way, a child once it has been born.
      Beaglemom

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    2. Anonymous2:30 PM

      Tonthe fundies and their political arm, the GOP, " ID you're preborn you're fine/if you're pre-school you're fucked" -G. Carlin.

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  14. Anonymous7:18 AM

    I kinda like the idea of getting to the truth. Think of the falsely accused. Think of a child's right to know who his parents are. Think of truth vs liars. DNA is powerful stuff. And we should begin with truth, facts and right to know. Do not compromise with a liar.

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    1. Anonymous7:47 AM

      I like the idea of people, children, being able to know who their parents are. For medical reasons as well as psychological and mental health.

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    2. Anonymous8:25 AM

      @anon 7:47 am
      Do you also like the idea that rapists have been given visitation rights in the USA? Even convicted rapists?

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    3. Anonymous9:08 AM

      Those are two completely different issues, 8:25.

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    4. Anonymous9:40 AM

      @ anon 9:08 am
      No they aren't completely separate. If you demand women name their rapists then those rapists could ( and have) sought visitation and custody.

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    5. Anonymous12:37 PM

      No, you're right. I guess I just meant I agree that children should be able to know who their bio parents are for medical reasons, etc, but I do agree that some women hide the identity of the fathers because of rape or incest and they shouldn't be forced to identify the in order to get the child a birth certificate. I definitely am against rapists getting visitation or custody.

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  15. Anonymous7:20 AM

    I understand where people are coming from in saying that there is this or that good reason for such bills because it makes the male more accountable or this or that, but it still comes down to control and imposing on people's privacy and taking away the right to a formal declaration of birth that every citizen is entitled to.

    Fine if the state wants to deprive needy mothers and children of aid because of a blank on am f'king form, but it is INSANE,--and I can't believe people actually go along with the idea--that they can prevent a record of birth from being completed. If people want to prevent aid, fine, but it is not necessary to say no to a basic birth certificate (and social security number and card). That is beyond the pale.

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    1. Anonymous7:37 AM

      And they're Republicans. So much for freedom and liberties that they preach. Take our country back to what...the 1800s?

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    2. Anonymous8:05 AM

      But, in the end, it doesn't make the "male" more responsible. It makes life harder for the single mother and the child. Of course, there's nothing in the bill to make abortions more available? There is no person so loathsome right now as a Republican legislator or governor - at any level of government.
      Beaglemom

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    3. Anonymous8:47 AM

      If those whitey good ole boys' little girls were raped by black men and impregnated, they'd be all for the morning after pill and, I'm betting, abortions. They'd handle things on the QT. But if something like this happened to someone else's young white daughters, no way would they say a single word in support of the victims.

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    4. Anonymous9:03 AM

      Beaglemom...just a shout-out to let you know I always enjoy reading your posts. You're one of my favorite posters ever. I am a bit biased though, because I'm definitely in your camp politically and generally on your side of the issues. Saltaire

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    5. Anonymous11:48 AM

      The overall sad part of this kind of legislation is the ignorance of the people who vote for these bastards. They are soooo concerned about MY TAX DOLLARS being spent somewhere that they don't like, single mothers become an easy target for the legislators to appease their selfish constituents. None of these constituents worry about the real corruption and waste of tax money that happens which is a lot more than giving a single parent a leg up in life.

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    6. Anonymous1:03 PM

      Ditto 9;03! I love reading Beaglemom's comments.She is one if the few consistent voices of reason here. Plus I love Beagles too...13", 15", Snoopy, Uno, Miss P, all of them, any if them in front of me over the years. You rock, Beaglemom!

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  16. Anonymous7:46 AM

    OT STATS>TRACK?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kansas-shooting-ex-girlfriend-protective-order_us_56d097bde4b0bf0dab31f2e6

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  17. Anonymous7:47 AM

    What the hell? Are those legislators trying to return us to a 1620 Puritan Colony?? And G, I said the same thing to my husband that it takes two (most of the time) and the men in this situation aren't held accountable in anyway. Besides who pays for the DNA test?

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  18. Anonymous7:53 AM

    So Bristol had jaw realignment surgery? BWAHAHAHAHA.

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  19. Anonymous7:56 AM

    That's my all time favorite photo of Briss. It not only captures what she looks like, but it also captures her essence. To me, this is her "Mona Lisa."

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    1. Anonymous8:25 AM

      Yep!

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    2. Anonymous9:00 AM

      You got that, 7:56! And to think, she is still connected to the producer of that show - which sure did her NO favors. Thanks to David or Dan or whatever his name is (I'm too lazy to look for that and hey - why burn those brain cells for no good reason?) Wait-where was I? Oh, yeah. Thanks to her producer/representative/product endorsement pimp, we will always have Brissy's meltdowns, Tripp's F****get moment and all those slanderous quotes about Levi forever immortalized and mocked on the interwebs.

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    3. Anonymous9:04 AM

      Yes, Bristol the eternal victim. boo hoo

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    4. Anonymous9:32 AM

      I find it hilarious that the producer of her stupid reality show is now her publicist. hahahaha

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  20. Anonymous8:14 AM

    It's a new world for Bristol. Her mom is no longer rich or influential. Bristol no longer has the right last name.

    She is about to get a lesson in sharing by Alaska courts that is going to mess with her juvenile play house fantasies. Add to the real world coming for her are a bunch of little people her family abused. Oh she 8s going to get screwed. She should have been careful what she prayed for.

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    1. Anonymous8:34 AM

      Her immaturity shows in taking her plight public. No one really cares, Brissy, we all have our own life issues to deal with and why you and your family are constantly slammed in comments on various sites.

      You made yourself a public figure of your own doing thinking you'd be the next Kardashian. Pardon our yawning.

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  21. Anonymous8:42 AM

    Are they legislating that a child's existence be denied if it's paternity is not known?

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    1. Anonymous11:41 AM

      Um, yes.

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    2. Anonymous11:56 AM

      But the mother cannot have an abortion.
      Beaglemom

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    3. Anonymous12:46 PM

      Well-stated summary of the horrible law.

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    4. Anonymous12:53 PM

      There have been women in comas who have been raped by an unknown hospital staff member. Because men have the right not to be forced to give their DNA, the biological father is unknown. So the child becomes a non-person, since the comatose mother cannot tell who the father is?

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  22. Anonymous8:46 AM

    ‘Provides that absent DNA evidence or a family member’s name, a birth certificate will not be issued
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    so if you don't have DNA, for example in the case of a rape by unknown criminal and a family member won't sign the child has no birth certificate?

    How is that going to work? A child with no birth certificate>

    They come up with all these "ideas" to punish women, but they never bother to think of the consequences, because they are so busy hating women.

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    1. Anonymous11:56 AM

      Great. No school for the child, no health care, no employment ever.
      Beaglemom

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  23. another stupid bill that will go nowhere

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  24. Anonymous9:47 AM

    So, sooner or later, we will have a nation of 'non-persons', if those children - who exist! - do not get a birth certificate.
    I guess, the ReThugs are getting closer and closer to their end goal, where nobody can vote anymore, and they ( the ruling class) can just do whatever they want.
    OK. I get it.

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    1. Anonymous10:11 AM

      The stupidity astounds. I got tired a long time ago asking, "are you serious?!?"

      Unfortunately, they are.

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    2. Anonymous10:50 AM

      cyber smack! hey wake up! power of people!
      what if a whole city takes a week off work? uh I think they would do WHATEVER we asked! overseas they had workers off a week and that really threw a wrench in operations! we might have to do that!

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    3. Anonymous12:54 PM

      10:50 am we need a Politcal Revolution to change things - we need to stop taking it up the rear and pretending we are fine

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    4. Anonymous2:39 PM

      1050 my neighbor said if we stopped buying gas for a week that would change things? I never saw how that would work but you reminded me of that conversation years ago!

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  25. Anonymous10:16 AM

    One time, my dad and I were talking about the hated Republicans and I was so fired up that I commented on how I doubted if any of the GOP wives of men in Congress had ever had an orgasm. My dad didn't say anything in reply. How could he! It was awkward, but I think I made a good point.

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  26. Anonymous10:24 AM

    And now Utah wants to pass a law that requires fetuses be administered anesthesia. It just never ends. They keep piling on. Next, they'll do what you see in made for TV movies about dying people wanting to celebrate all their holidays in one year. (Nothing against it. Those are full people and their wishes are understandable.) They'll pass a law requiring that the fetus to be aborted gets a onsie and a first birthday cake and first bike and gets an appt. for braces with an orthodontist and gets an invite to the prom and an engagement ring and so on.

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    1. Anonymous1:05 PM

      Don't forget getting the fetus its very own gun.

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    2. Anonymous2:37 PM

      Indiana is already there. Miscarried and terminated fetii are to be buried or cremated. Boon for funeral homes, a huge unnecessary expense for women and families. And it goes against ALL religious and other tradition that says birth is threshold of personhood and identity. Next up, submit your to see if it goes.on the trash or needs a casket.

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    3. Anonymous3:31 PM

      @2:37 With so many miscarriages before a woman even knows she's pregnant are they developing a tampon with built-in pregnancy test?
      -meh

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    4. Anonymous3:53 PM

      Exactly 3:31. They'll just make the woman pay for those tampon funerals. Female tax.

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  27. Anonymous10:36 AM

    "These babies are my world and I will always be doing what is best for them,” said Palin. “Every child deserves two loving parents, so I will continue to encourage that no matter what. I have never, and will never, keep them from having a positive relationship with their fathers."
    - Bristol "Full Of Shit" Palin


    "I have never, and will never, keep them from having a positive relationship with their fathers"


    Does anybody really believe that?

    Tell that to Levi Johnston

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    1. Anonymous10:53 AM

      Full of shit indeed.

      How stupid is she that she thinks we would buy it?

      Never ever get involved with a Palin. EVER.

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    2. Anonymous2:39 PM

      Of course no one believes it with all the contradictory evidence of Bitchtol's social media, TV show, etc.

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    3. Anonymous4:18 PM

      Money talks, Bristol.

      And Levi set the record straight by showing how much money you forced him to spend because you denied his child from him.

      Go Team Levi!

      Sucks to be a Palin now that the truth comes out.

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    4. Anonymous4:32 AM

      Trial Daddies are not the other half of loving parents. Maybe someone should have explained that to Bristol.

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  28. Eggman11:56 AM

    So maybe more babies will end up on church doorsteps, at firehouses, and other drop-off zones. A few in dumpsters. How's the foundling system in Illinois? Going to boost the economy by constructing Gingrich orphanages and hiring the mothers to work there? Another fine example of thinking things through, Repuglies!

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    1. Anonymous3:51 PM

      The for-profit prison industry can branch out.

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    2. Anonymous9:27 PM

      Privatized schools and social services, prep for privatized prison for those who get diverted into child sex-trafficking and/or military collateral damage. *sigh*

      dowl

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  29. Anonymous12:39 PM

    Don't think this could possibly pass the Supreme Court. The child is a citizen, and can't be denied his birth certificate.

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    1. Anonymous3:55 PM

      Depends on the Supreme Court. I can see Thomas and Alito voing for it. Not sure about Roberts.

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  30. A country where a child may not have a birth certificate, but where a corporation is legally a person? Good Grief!

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  31. Anonymous1:01 PM

    The GOP told us that it was the terrorists who were jealous of "our freedoms", but in reality it is the GOP who is jealous of their control and they are trying to be like the religious zealots of the Middle East.

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    1. Anonymous3:56 PM

      The the GOP Atwood's Handmaid's Tail isn't a dystopian novel. It's a playbook and a future to aspire to.

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    2. Anonymous9:29 PM

      Just as '1984' was, a blueprint for the USA dominionist theocracy.

      dowl

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  32. Anita Winecooler4:49 PM

    This is all about control and nothing to do with the welfare of the child. If a woman decides to have a baby and can afford help, what does she need a man's name to make it legal? This is bullshit, plain and simple, aimed at a segment of the population THEY think are scamming the welfare system. It's not enough they're blocking access by closing clinics, but now a woman needs a man's permission to have or not have a child? But it's perfectly fine for Bristol to rake Levi over the coals for seven years. What's wrong with this picture?

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