Friday, March 04, 2016

Ted Koppel explains to Bill O'Reilly that he helped to make journalism "irrelevant."

Courtesy of Raw Story:  

Former ABC News anchor Ted Koppel said on Wednesday that his Fox News counterpart Bill O’Reilly has undermined journalists’ ability to interview Donald Trump. 

“I’ve interviewed him a number of times,” O’Reilly said of the Republican front-runner. “Not an easy interview. How would you do it?” 

“You and I have talked about this general subject many times over the years. It’s irrelevant how I would do it,” Koppel replied. “You know who made it irrelevant? You did. You have changed the television landscape over the past 20 years — you took it from being objective and dull to subjective and entertaining. And in this current climate, it doesn’t matter what the interviewer asks him; Mr. Trump is gonna say whatever he wants to say, as outrageous as it may be.” 

The real estate mogul’s audience, Koppel added, was not even a television audience, but one better suited for Twitter. 

“They deal in messages of 140 characters or less, which keeps it nice and simple,” he explained.

Good for Ted Koppel to throw this is O'Reilly's face. 

Of course it clearly had no impact because O'Reilly just keeps right on asking hims questions as if he didn't just blame the destruction of the fourth estate on him and others at Fox News.

Actually Fox News is responsible for far more than the end of journalism in this country, they are also responsible for how deeply ideological the country is right now, the rise of the Tea Party, and of course the creation of Donald Trump.

Personally I think that Roger Ailes, Rupert Murdoch, and the talking heads at Fox News are guilty of sedition if not outright treason.

An d I don't really think that is an exaggeration.

28 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:22 AM

    Despite Fox News, the American people voted for President Obama twice. I have faith that at least 51% of us will do the right thing and vote for the Democratic nominee in November.

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    1. Anonymous7:40 AM

      +1

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    2. Anonymous8:37 AM

      I sincerely hope so. We did it twice in the past 8 years, hope we're good for it again.

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    3. Anonymous9:00 AM

      I, also, voted for President Obama twice - and, he was elected twice - so, it's apparent the majority of Americans do NOT watch FOX! And, I am one of those too!

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  2. Anonymous6:22 AM

    Bill O'Reilly is responsible only for damage done to himself and Fox News. No one forced other networks or other self-styled 'journalists' from mimicking O'Reilly's methods of tv entertainment.

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    1. When fox puts out opinion as truth and that opinion is what their audience wants to hear, that is called "hook, line, and sinker", bait taken. I have said it for years, this kind of journalism is changing our society.

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  3. The world is changing and we have a "new journalism" style. It caters to sound bites/bytes, TV and online ratings, and the corporate bottom line. I don't believe anyone actually practices the art of journalism or investigative reporting anymore without considering how it will impact their earnings.

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    1. Anonymous7:06 AM

      I agree, and that goes for local news as well.

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    2. Anonymous8:58 AM

      Right on!

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  4. Anonymous7:05 AM

    I feel the same as you regarding Fox News. It was created for the GOP, and the right wing slant. They outright lie, distort, misinform, and refuse to give even one positive feedback for anyone or anything the left may accomplish. When a Republican gets in trouble, the identify that person as a Democrat. For instance when David Vitter was caught up in the DC Madame scandal, Fox identified him as "David Vitter (D-LA)". Which of course was a lie, but to the low information viewer, it relays to them that another Democrat is sleazy. Guess they gotta convince the viewer that the Republicans are pure & the only party worthy of running our government. Vitter isn't the only Republican in trouble that they have identify as Democrat. In 2014, Fox, most especially Sean Hannity, couldn't promote the Bundy's and their armed standoff in Nevada with the Feds. Fox & Hannity also sided with Zimmerman, as they destroyed the the reputation of Tray von Martin. I'm an old lady, there was a time citizens thought for themselves, even the low information citizen usually tried to make rational decisions. Then Fox showed up with their fast moving, powerful, star spangled graphics and it began the dive from a thoughtful nation to one who relies on spoonfed propaganda. Murdock in the early days of Fox, took deep losses in his cable channel, he poured his own money to keep it afloat. At the same time, he purchased televisions and contracted the TVs out to waiting rooms, restaurants, bars, etc. so long as the channel was tuned in to Fox. So while you waited to get your tires rotated, or in the waiting room at your dentist, you are entertained with the glitz and glamor graphics that tell you their version of the news. Murdock took the chance that when you got home you would tune in. And people did. The losses he took in the early years paid off handsomely. Now he makes an insane amount of money because he bamboozled America. This is just a snippet of this man & his creation. Sadly, in order to compete for viewership & ad dollars, other news sources have fallen into the same trap h doing it poorly. What a shame. I can't see a way out of this as our news sources have been bought by corporations, and our news sources have become monopolies. So much more to say, and so much to be sad about the state of our nation.
    Dee, Michigan

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    1. Anonymous8:37 AM

      Standing ovation!

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  5. Anonymous7:20 AM

    OT-THIS>
    http://www.salon.com/2016/03/03/my_gen_x_hillary_problem_i_know_why_we_dont_like_clinton/

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  6. Anonymous7:45 AM

    This is a great point and I'm glad Koppel make it in public and right to O'Reilly's face on his own show.

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  7. Anonymous7:49 AM

    He's giving Bill O way too much credit. He's just one of the many faces of FOX. Rupert Murdoch is the responsible party at FOX and he did it to the UK and Australia also.

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  8. Anonymous8:39 AM

    It's not just Tv news. It's also print news online and paper. I have talked to far too many people who NEVER read an entire news article. They read the first few lines or paragraph, then stop. Many times the headline is totally inaccurate, and they say whatever they want in the first paragraph because they know that most people stop reading after a few lines. How many here do the same thing?

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  9. Certainly he didn't have to do it, so it was sporting of Koppel to remind O'Reilly's audience that once upon a time we were accustomed to dignity in newsmen.

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  10. Anonymous8:57 AM

    I so agree with you, IM. But, I'd go one step further and say those you named should be arrested, put on trial and executed!

    To include Sarah Palin of Alaska!

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  11. Anonymous9:00 AM

    ++++120 percent, 7:05!

    I remember when Fox News came out around 1996. They were not so whacko, but in retrospect, they were testing the waters. Just like a shark.

    One of the happiest moments of my life was being in Canada in the 2000's, after "shock and awe," and discovering they had no Fox "News" because it was ruled an entertainment channel.

    One of the saddest moments of my life will be going to my grave knowing Murrow, Cronkite, Huntley, Brinkley, Serveraid are dead, and yet Goebells lives on through Fox News.

    I live in the West. Before I bought a new truck that came with with satellite radio, all I got was the right-wing nutters on AM.

    Maybe this new radio will help people from voting against themselves. Certainly cable tv "news" doesn't do a thing except de-evolve the minds of people who listen to that crap.


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  12. Anonymous9:12 AM

    Bill O’Reilly Appears ‘Stumble Drunk’ As He Tries To Interview Candidates After The GOP Debate (VIDEO/TWEETS)

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/03/04/bill-oreilly-appears-stumble-drunk-as-he-tries-to-interview-candidates-after-the-gop-debate-videotweets/

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  13. Anonymous9:13 AM

    Hillary Perfectly Mocked The GOP Debate As It Happened With These HILARIOUS Tweets

    Well, no one can say Hillary Clinton doesn’t have a sense of humor. That’s for sure.

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/03/03/sw-hillary-perfectly-mocked-the-gop-debate-as-it-happened-with-this-hilarious-tweet/

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  14. Anonymous9:18 AM

    O/T but great news!

    Devastating Polls Show 8 Senate Republicans Could Lose Seats Due To Obstructing Obama

    PPP polls of Iowa, Arizona, North Carolina, and Missouri revealed that four long-term Republican incumbents could lose their seats if they obstruct President Obama's Supreme Court nominee.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/04/devastating-polls-show-8-senate-republicans-lose-seats-due-obstructing-obama.html

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  15. Anonymous9:26 AM

    Trump Cancels Saturday Speech At CPAC

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-cancels-cpac-speech

    Tea Party Leader: Trump 'Has No Business Thinking' He's One Of Us

    Tea Party activist Jenny Beth Martin had some harsh words for GOP frontrunner Donald Trump during a Friday speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

    “He loves himself more than our country,” the Tea Party Patriot co-founder said. “He loves himself more than the Constitution. He does not love you or me. He does not love the Tea Party. Donald Trump has no business thinking he is Tea Party.”

    ...Martin framed Trump as a political creature whose beliefs shifted to accommodate his own self-interest. She urged conservatives not to be swayed by his appeal to their “anger.”

    “When he says he wants to make America great again, we cheer because we all believe America is great,” she said. “We appreciate what sounds like love of country on his part. It's a seductive hitch. I have several friends and colleagues who support him even as I speak. Here is what I think: Donald Trump loves himself first, last, and everywhere in between.”

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jenny-beth-martin-slams-trump-cpac

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    1. Anonymous11:38 AM

      Ha! Ha! If they all hate him so much why are they so butthurt that he didn't attend their little xtian, fetus-loving, mutual masturbation meeting?

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  16. Anonymous9:34 AM

    Donald Trump Suggests Bill O'Reilly Go See A Psychiatrist

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bizarre-oreilly-and-trump-exchange

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  17. Anonymous9:38 AM

    Watch these kids hilariously school Donald Trump: ‘He speaks his mind — but his mind isn’t right’

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/watch-these-kids-hilariously-school-donald-trump-he-speaks-his-mind-but-his-mind-isnt-right/

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  18. Anita Winecooler6:19 PM

    I'm in my late fifties and I can vividly remember a time when Journalists took pride in their work, it was truly the fourth estate. I used to get my news from television's national and local news, newspapers and radio. I could trust journalists have gone over their facts, dotted their i's and crossed their t's. I remember when a President got shot or shot and killed, how the earth seemed to stand still, and reporters cried on television confirming the news.
    Now I get my news from the internet, blogs like this one, and not so much from TV anymore, with the exception of a few on msnbc.(Which has seemed to departed it's orbit with all the new changes and abandoned it's core audience). CNN was fantastic when it first came out, had become "Fox lite" and they lost me as well.
    People just don't seem curious about the world around them anymore, and shows (not news) like Fox takes advantage of them all.
    I'm glad to see Billo get smacked down by one of the old school journalists. Billo needs to be schooled on so many topics, they'd need to take him off the air and teach him the basics.
    I remember my Dad clipping our friend Joe McGuinness's columns in the Bulletin, a newspaper in Philly. Joe was the real deal, a gumshoe detective type of journalist whose writing was always crisp, clean, truthful and to the point.
    There are few today that I can trust that way. Billo's at the bottom of the list. The worst of the worst since Beck left.

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