Thursday, April 07, 2016

Bernie Sanders claims that Hillary Clinton is unqualified to be President.

Courtesy of CNN: 

Bernie Sanders said Wednesday that Hillary Clinton is not "qualified" to be president, a sharp escalation in rhetoric in the Democratic primary. 

"Secretary Clinton appears to be getting a little bit nervous," he told a crowd in Philadelphia. "And she has been saying lately that she thinks that I am 'not qualified' to be president. Well, let me, let me just say in response to Secretary Clinton: I don't believe that she is qualified, if she is, through her super PAC, taking tens of millions of dollars in special interest funds. I don't think that you are qualified if you get $15 million from Wall Street through your super PAC."

Of course the problem with this statement is that Hillary did NOT say that Bernie was unqualified to be President.

What she said was the following: 

"I think he hadn't done his homework and he'd been talking for more than a year about doing things that he obviously hadn't really studied or understood, and that does raise a lot of questions," Clinton said. "Really what that goes to is for voters to ask themselves can he deliver what he's talking about."

That was based on the New York Daily News interview that has a lot of people wondering about Sanders' ability to do the things he has promised to do.

However it should be noted that Sanders' said "quote unquote" when describing what Hillary allegedly said, and that it demonstrably false.

This was a yuge mistake for Sanders and it is definitely going to have an impact on, not only his campaign, but his reputation as a politician who does not "go negative."

255 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:06 AM

    Who Said This?

    Oh, why do my actions have consequences?

    Bernie Simpson or
    Homer Sanders?


    Once again, by eating alone I have saved my marriage!

    Bernie Simpson or
    Homer Sanders?


    You can't spell lousy without "us".

    Bernie Simpson or
    Homer Sanders?


    Oh, my God! Space Aliens! Don't eat me, I have a wife and kids! Eat them!

    Bernie Simpson or
    Homer Sanders?


    America can't collapse! We're as powerful as ancient Rome!

    Bernie Simpson or
    Homer Sanders?

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    1. Anonymous7:54 AM

      I'll bet the repubs are drooling right now. The only way they can win is if there is infighting between all of us progessive/liberals. The media is complicit as well and if we continue to act like a bunch of fucking children with "he said she said" we're going to wake up to a fucking Cruz for President. Don't you guys get it? This shit happens during primaries, this is what politicians do. Geez, we sound like a right wing blog here tearing each other up. WAKE UP.

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    2. Anonymous8:55 AM

      The GOP is not going to let a President Cruz happen, nor a Trump. There will be a new horse in this race at the contested convention, hopefully a much more moderate one as the GOP power structure seems to have finally figured out that they need to distance themselves from the nuttiest 25% of their party.

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  2. Anonymous6:06 AM

    Bernie has lost control of his campaign it is nothing more than a RW shitstorm now. I doubt if he will win the primary (he doesn't have the delegates) if he did I would have to "hold my nose" to vote for him.
    He has lost all control. Hearing stuff about him, he doesn't organize his staffers and he just can't get organized. Hillary sat on the Stand for 11 hours. And Bernie is losing his shit? Hillary is qualified and she has my vote.
    Oh heard on Steph Miller show, Trump has blackmail shit on fox news Ailes? And he didn't get it from palin either, he got it from mediating the whatever. Developing story...

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    1. Anonymous7:59 AM

      It makes me a little nostalgic watching the young Bernie supporters (much like I was in the 60s) getting carried away with the message and not putting enough thought into the details.

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    2. Anonymous8:56 AM

      This whole "holding your nose to vote for someone" is just really lame. There is no reason to vote for a candidate that you loathe and do not agree with, that's just sad!

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    3. Karl Rove9:26 AM

      San Sanders won 7 out 8 of the last primaries, he has lost control?

      In your dreams!

      HRC is a poor loser!

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    4. Anonymous10:17 AM

      The real Karl Rove is an unethical asshole, but he's very smart.

      This Karl Rove? Not so smart.

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    5. Anonymous10:45 AM

      Anonymous 8:56am - I agree that the idea of "holding my nose to vote for someone" I fundamentally disagree with is a repugnant notion. And, until this week, I was resigned to do just that if Hillary secures the nomination. However, I am no longer sure I can bring myself to do it. I may just sit it out if she and her SuperPAC funds win. And, for the record, I am definitely not a kid looking for a handout. I am a middle-aged 1%-er who is willing to pay more in taxes to help level the crazy playing field in this country.

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    6. Anonymous11:06 AM

      @8:56 "Holding your nose" while casting your vote is NOT lame. Our political system, as it is now, means we only get to choose between 2, usually unacceptable, candidates.

      The next president will likely have an influence on the supreme court that could last a quarter century. Every single one of the Republican candidates could DESTROY the substantial social gains of the 20th century with wingnut Supreme Court judges.

      Both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have aspects that appall me. But the specter of my grand-daughters and their daughters at the mercy of a sadistic "conservative" court is enough to make me gladly vote for any/all Democratic candidates.

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    7. Anonymous12:20 PM

      8:56 you better hope people hold their nose and vote for a democratic candidate they don't really back - you sound like you prefer that those who feel that way stay home & not vote at all. Now THAT is what losers do and the Repubs hope we do. Are you sure you're not a Repub?

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  3. Anonymous6:08 AM

    Bernie Simpson needs to learn how to play nice.

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    1. Anonymous6:22 AM

      old dog, new trick

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    2. Karl Rove7:27 AM

      So sorry the facts are not nice to HRC! It's her record, that he is talking about, no wonder she is pissy!

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    3. Anonymous8:52 AM

      Bernie's record is of a do nothing slacker that didn't even support his own child.

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    4. Anonymous3:20 PM

      Totally serious about this, 8:52, I canNOT find that he didn't support his son he had with the girlfriend. It may be true, but i can't find anything to support that. If true, his campaign is over. My mind is still open, and searching for Truth....

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  4. Anonymous6:12 AM

    when Hillary said she thought $12 an hour was enough, I wondered how long has it been since she had to make do, raise a family, on $12/hr?

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    1. Anonymous6:23 AM

      I suspect she said that $12 was enough 'for now." Yo can't go from $10 to $15-it takes YEARS. Even the states that have passed it will not see $15 until 2023. Meanwhile, businesses have to find a way to not only pay THAT, but the extra taxes on it, raise prices on goods and services, and stay in business or no one will be making anything. Minimum wage was never supposed to be a living wage. the RW is right about that. I've worked minimum wage jobs as an adult, but as a second income, not the primary.
      What we need, and what Bernie isn't talking about, is more manufacturing jobs that ARE living wage jobs with benefits and a retirement plan. You can rally the troops with words, but Hillary has plans to get things done. So far, Bernie just sounds like another Republican to me-promises he can't keep because they are not practical.

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    2. Anonymous6:34 AM

      I never heard her say that about $12 I have heard her say she wants $15.
      Link please.
      Anyway this is about WHAT BERNIE said.

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    3. Anonymous7:05 AM

      Because it would never just jump to 15 in one leap. Much like California's new $15 an hr minimum wage it will climb there in steps up through 2022. Bernie isn't magically going to hand out your "free stuff" to you. And again, nothing can be done in that direction with a GOP controlled house and senate.

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    4. Anonymous9:03 AM

      634, all last summer must have been a blur. Try using Google. I'll make it even easier---Huffpo, july 30, 2015 article and one from Nov 3 2015. And that's just one publication to choose from. There's a LOT out on this.
      I'm hoping Mrs. Clinton has had a true change of heart regarding the much needed wage increase. $15/an hour is just getting by with NO gov't assistance where I live. $12 won't cut it, and add in a chronic immune disease and major organ damage that insurance won't cover. It's unaffordable, and the credit cards we finally paid off have balances once again. For medicine, food, and utilities. We don't dine out or take vacations. I wear the same old clothes I've had since before the Lyme diagnosis.Can't afford to buy more, and I also cut my own hair(looks like shit, too). if I could, I'd pay a stylist and buy some new-to-me clothing, and go to the farmer's market, which would put money into my community but as it stands all i can do is send $$ to corporate utilities, corporate pharma and corporate grocery because I can't even afford the farmer's market. I garden my ass off to grow my family's food, but some days the pain and fatigue are so bad I can't even do that.

      705, no, i didnt think ole bernie was a magician but thanks for clarification anyway. I don't want 'free stuff' (careful, your dog whistle words give you away), I want a fair wage for a fair day's work. Do you live in a right-to-work state, or one that allows unions? do you have enough in your bank account to pay for the medicines you need to remain a Living taxpayer as well as food & utilities money and rent for the fam?
      Imagine! Just the mere mention of actual truth and suddenly I want free stuff and I MUST be a Clinton hater?
      I'm not hating on Mrs. Clinton by saying what she said. I respect Hillary Clinton and would give her my vote over GOP. I just want her to promote policies that help the working poor like me. I reiterate my above musing from 612. I refuse to hate on Mrs Clinton like I refuse to 'love' on Bernie. I am undecided. Clinton fans flinging insults over one little truth won't bring undecideds to her tent. You do your candidate a disservice in this respect, and I don't think Mrs. Clinton deserves to be treated thus.

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    5. Anonymous10:13 AM

      There are insults being thrown both ways.

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    6. Anonymous10:14 AM

      I would love to live in a country where Bernie Sanders' vision was a reality. I don't know how he would bring that about...I don't think he knows either.

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    7. Anonymous11:59 AM

      Anonymous9:03 AM,

      You think a republican congress, senate and president will get your $15 /hr?

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    8. Anonymous12:32 PM

      @ anon 9:03 am

      Yes I do have enough money to pay for my needs because I have worked my whole life ( from age 12) until now into my "retirement". I grew up dirt poor, worked for over the last 30 yrs with a chronic illness ( MS, I also pay over 30% of my gross income into federal taxes.
      So what DO you want? Sounds like you expect something. Maybe you should have made better choices in your life before your illness? Maybe you should move to an area where it is cheaper to live? Not my problem if your Governor didn't expand medicare, because it sure sounds to me that you are blaming me for your lack of healthcare.

      AS for my remarks about Bernie I will talk how ever I want to. He doesn't deserve any respect from me after stating women's reproductive rights are "not an important issue and he refuses to spend any time discussing them and nor should any other politician". So Fuck Bernie and Fuck his supporters.

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    9. Anonymous2:47 PM

      12:32 so how much do you make to have to pay out 30%(!!) of your gross income in taxes?
      Sounds like you're doing FIIIINE, or at least better than we are. You got yours, Jack. Good for you!!
      I urge you to re-read and discover that I'd want a fair wage for a day's work. I would also like to be able to collectively bargain for basic benefits barring that fair wage.

      I never said i was a bernie supporter so calm down, hun! I'm u-n-d-e-c-i-d-e-d. So much stress will bring on another relapse, or do you relapse-remit?

      I don't want welfare, sorry.
      What's wrong with any of that? Wow but you tried to snap my head off.
      I'm sorry you grew up poor, like me. I've been working my whole life too, as a farmer's daughter so back off even trying to call my ass lazy. I'm sorry you have MS, sort of like me. My chronic Lyme infection and the months and months of hardcore antibiotics has left me with MS symptoms of all sorts, and heart/lung/eye/liver damage. We spent over $70,000(all our savings) in one year on just Lyme, for just me. I owe my husband the best I can give him for agreeing to that. I'm sorry I can't accommodate you with your captain hindsight suggestions of moving elsewhere(can't afford to and LOVE these mountains and the cool weather helps my Lyme, like your MS gets aggravated in heat and humidity) or having made better choices prior to my very late diagnosis of Lyme. Btw, didn't contract that in a bar, or a dance hall, just working outdoors all my life. On the farm and later on in the plant nursery industry that I obtained my bachelor's(ag science) in back when I was healthy.
      I certainly wasn't blaming you for MY damn probs, hun. It's kind of paranoid of you to even suggest that of me. I understand that MS can make one very depressed. Just like Lyme.
      I didn't vote the GOP gov in, and never would vote GOP. I voted Dem.
      I posit that it is every American's problem that some gov's didn't expand Medicare. It will cost the whole country. I don't have Medicare or any insurance. I pay for it all out of pocket since insurance doesn't cover Lyme therapy. so it's all out of pocket--labs, dr visits, and the meds it takes to keep me alive and functioning so I can care for my family. Maybe you think I should just throw in the towel and kill myself, save you some more angry thoughts? Don't worry hun, i only have a few years left.
      I'm still trying to google-find the quote you claim is Sanders'. I want to make an informed choice about whom I'm voting for. And please continue to freely express your opinion, no matter how bitter or thoughtless, as that is your right as an American. I'll fight for your right to say whatever mean or stupid thing you want, and I don't care if you want to insult me. I'm a biiiiiiig girl and have been for centuries.

      11:59 No, I don't. It didn't work that way at least 2 presidents before. I have a memory problem due to neuro damage but I DO remember some things. For all else, there's the google. kisses!

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  5. Anonymous6:12 AM

    I am growing to strongly dislike Bernie. He should know as well as the rest of us how difficult it is to legislate healthcare reform. During Obama's first two years as President, the democrats had a strong majority in the Senate and he still had to compromise with the gop to get the ACA to pass. He is causing his supporters to believe the right wing lies about Hillary.

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    1. Anonymous6:35 AM

      8:12 Clapping!!!

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    2. Maple7:17 AM

      When you build your campaign on anger at the 1%, it isn't surprising that the anger begins to boil over into vitriol and desperate lies. I've said from the beginning that trying to start a revolution in a democratic republic is a lose-lose proposition. And when a candidate running for the Democrats doesn't even have the support of elected Democrats.....well, perhaps it makes for good cable TV, but that's about all. What remains from his candidacy will be a lot of frustrated young people who might be turned off politics forever. And we can blame Sanders for that.

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    3. Anonymous7:26 AM

      I agree with you. At first I really liked Bernie. All my grand kids and daughter really like him. I try to tell them that he can't really do what he says he's going to do. GO Hillary.

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    4. Karl Rove7:30 AM

      It's not that I dislike HRC, I hate her track record and the wars she is responsible for, it is reprehensible to kill hundreds of thousands and cry about gun control!

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    5. Anonymous7:58 AM

      Maple 7:17> So True and just sad..
      TRUTH and Knowledge and UNDERSTANDing is what we need most..

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    6. Anonymous8:58 AM

      I never thought I'd agree with "Karl Rove", but Amen, Karl!

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    7. Anonymous10:55 AM

      Maybe Hillary will try to redeem the Clinton name as President such as undoing the bad trade deals that were done during the first Clinton admin? Maybe Hillary will be the next FDR?

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    8. Anonymous12:01 PM

      Karl Rove7:30 AM,

      Then you should hold yourself responsible for those wars as well. Because if you didn't vote for Gore, you are just as responsible for Bush's actions as she is.

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  6. Anonymous6:14 AM

    Time for Bernie to get a call from the White House. Time for Elizabeth Warren to step in and endorse HRC. Bernie is doing the best he can to damage all democrats and hand the election to Trump or Cruz.
    He has entered a disgusting phase.

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    1. Anonymous8:19 AM

      Sanders is Trump in DEM Clothing. He is NO Democrat that's for sure.

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  7. Anonymous6:21 AM

    Is Bernie Sanders getting too old? Will he be our first senile president?

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    1. Anonymous6:55 AM

      Second. The first was Ronnie Raygun. And possibly Millard Fillmore, also too.

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    2. Anonymous7:01 AM

      That was Reagan, and again Bernie would have to ride on Reagans coattails to get that title like he has always ridden on someones coattails.

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    3. Anonymous9:00 AM

      Will Hillary be the first president with a traumatic brain injury? When is that old thing gonna flare up again? Hope she picks a competent VP because you just never know about these things and they can't cover it up a second time.

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    4. Anonymous9:38 AM

      Hillary Clinton didn't have a TBI and Bernie Sanders isn't senile.

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    5. Anonymous12:36 PM

      @ anon 9:00 am
      Hillary won't be the first person to have had a concussion and become president, both the Kennedy's did, as did GHB, Reagan and most likely a host of others.
      But Hllary has never had a TBI, but you are either a liar or just plain stupid.
      Now if Bernie is elected it will be the first time a deadbeat Dad has been president of the USA.

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  8. Anonymous6:24 AM

    If elected, under the guise of removing debt or whatever, trump and his buddy putin will buy up our natural resources and lease them back to us. They will use bank funding and go into bankruptcy when it suits them. However, us lands etc will likely remain in private hands.
    Bernie and Hillary will not do that.

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    1. Anonymous7:00 AM

      Hillary will not let that happen, Bernie I'm not so sure of. I don't really see any difference between him and Trump.

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    2. Anonymous8:17 AM

      HOly shit 7:00. no diff between bernie and drumpf?
      try harder, you might get taken seriously

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    3. Anonymous8:50 AM

      @ anon 8:17 am
      Please tell me the differences. I see 2 big egos and neither one qualified to be president. I will not be voting for either one.

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    4. Anonymous9:00 AM

      All the HRC supporters are still butthurt because she lost Wisconsin.

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    5. Anonymous10:11 AM

      Most of us were quite aware she wasn't going to win Wisconsin.

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    6. Anonymous10:58 AM

      I read fivethirtyeight so I was prepared for the Wisconsin loss. What's your next "theory", 9:00?

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    7. Anonymous12:04 PM

      Anonymous9:00 AM

      Another smarmy comment from a Sanders supporter, who will get all whiney when Sanders is criticised.

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    8. Anonymous12:14 PM

      Hey 850
      One dude is a billionaire and one isn't. That's a pretty big difference, for one.

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  9. Anonymous6:25 AM

    Looks like Bernie is the one getting nervous. He pulls a Palin in an interview and then loses his mind at the first little sign of blowback he's received in the entire campaign. I do love the visual of the sign that says "A Future to Believe In!" in front of the loud, angry, finger-wagging, elderly white man who just looks like the past. It's pretty disgusting that he is making these negative comments and then blaming any party division (not that he cares about the party) on Hillary being ambitious.

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  10. Anonymous6:34 AM

    Bernie Sanders is turning into a grumpy old man. I'm worried if he becomes president.

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    1. Anonymous6:59 AM

      Bernie has been grumpy his whole life.

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    2. Anonymous8:03 AM

      Grumpy old man made me giggle. It reminded me of the neighbor who'd pick up our baseball and shake his fist "I'm taking this to the police station!" (Yeah you do that and see what they say)

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  11. I would like to think that people understand Bernie is a Socialist.....very different than a Democrat. Countries that are listed as Socialist:

    China
    Denmark
    Finland
    Netherlands
    Canada
    Sweden
    Norway
    Ireland
    New Zealand
    Belgium

    You can look it up in Wiki in case you are interested in going there.

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    1. Anonymous6:58 AM

      Really? You think we didn't you that? Lord I knew all that info before there was Wiki. You are an idiot.

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    2. Is there a point to your list? I have been to eight of the ten countries on the list. All modern, all pleasant, all enjoyable.

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    3. Anonymous7:31 AM

      I personally don't necessarily have a problem with Socialism. I do have a problem with Bernie Sanders.

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    4. What percentage of ones income goes to the state that pays for services provided by Socialism?

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    5. Anonymous10:39 AM

      Canadians pay between 15 and 30% depending on income and receive healthcare and other socialized services.

      I am currently taxed at 23% here in the US and most of my money goes to fund the military industrial complex.

      Socialism looks better all the time, at least I get something for my money.

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    6. Anonymous11:00 AM

      Gles why don't you answer that question by reading it on Wiki?

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    7. Because if you know how great socialism is, I figured you could answer me....

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  12. Anonymous6:40 AM

    Bernie has just ruined whatever good will was left towards him. He's a crazy old white man who's lost. He's trying to "scorch the earth" now. (Hey, Bernie! Was John Kerry unqualified for voting for Iraq war, too? Or is it just women? Why did you confirm him for Sec.of State?)

    I think I will stop commenting on Bernie now and only read Gryph's posts; the BS die-hards are only going to be in vitriolic fact-free meltdown.

    Hillary, here's my advice: stop debating Bernie now. Don't even be on the same stage with him. He's not a real Democrat & you've got this. Move on to the General.

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    1. Anonymous7:20 AM


      Sanders campaign sought to EXCLUDE DNC from the upcoming April 14th debate..

      HRC should/and will do this to put HIM away..

      Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/bernie-sanders-dnc-democratic-debate-221616#ixzz459cKpffy
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    2. Anonymous7:44 AM

      YES!
      http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/watch-bernie-double-down-on-clinton-attack-maybe-americans-should-wonder-about-your-qualifications/

      Also this>
      "Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) called Sanders' qualification remark a "pretty extraordinary claim."
      "She’s probably among the very best qualified candidates to run for this office," said Schiff, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee. "She was just an extraordinary secretary of state. She has broad experience. I think she’ll make a tremendous commander in chief."

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  13. Anonymous6:45 AM

    Smells of desperation to me. I thought Bernie was better than that.

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    1. Anonymous8:41 AM

      Honestly the desperation all seems to be coming from the Clinton camp. Bernie has always been the underdog this campaign. Hillary is the one getting dirty and trying to spin it.

      Fuck that old ugly useless hag.

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    2. Anonymous8:48 AM

      You just didn't know who he was at all. What you are seeing is the real Bernard.

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    3. Anonymous9:39 AM

      8:41 is a great representative for progressives supporters of Bernie Sanders.

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    4. Anonymous10:12 AM

      8:41. Your choice of words really points out your misogyny - can't articulate any real points so you resort to the old Bernie-bro standard insinuation that a post-menopausal woman is useless and a hag. They try to say the same about HRC supporters. Guess what? HRC has support of many of the most decent men along with beautiful and whip-smart young women. And, yes, also post-menopausal women..,,,you ass.

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    5. Anonymous12:17 PM

      Damn 841 that's just useless hating. Nice

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  14. Anonymous6:49 AM

    Buh BYE, Bernie. No really. Buh BYE! Here's the door.

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  15. Anonymous6:56 AM

    Bernie is a dick.

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  16. It's getting nasty now. Bullshit! Nasty is candidates comparing penis sizes and slut shaming each other's wives. Both candidates are looking for anything that will draw a distinction between the two of them, otherwise it's not a contest.

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  17. Anonymous7:04 AM

    All Hillary needs to be doing is stuff related to the Clinton Foundation, or create her own if she and bill don't see each other.

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  18. So actually the title should be that Bernie Sanders responds to Clinton's accusation that he is not qualified in kind...

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    1. Anonymous7:27 AM

      After hearing Bernie not being able to articulate how he can accomplish the central promise of his campaign, I do wonder if he is qualified.

      His complaints about Clibton have nothing to do with her qualifications.

      This is him shouting "I know you are but what am I?"

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    2. Anonymous7:29 AM

      The title is accurate. Maybe you should think about why that completely accurate headline bothers you.

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    3. Anonymous7:33 AM

      She did NOT say that. And you know it.

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    4. Anonymous7:33 AM

      Which came first - the chicken or the egg?

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  19. Anonymous7:18 AM

    YES to many of the comments above. I used to be in the heart-says-Bernie-head-says-Hillary camp, with reservations about the whole gun thing*, but no more. There's a real arrogance shining through, maybe growing as he starts to believe he could actually win this thing. The recent stuff has made me think, waitaminnit, this guy is HOW old? The answer turns out to be 74, turning 75 in September. He starts to remind me of a few relatives of mine who went from iconoclastic to downright nutty in their later years. If he's like this now, what would he be like at the end of a term, when he's 79? I've known some remarkable octogenarians, but d@mned few I'd want to see anywhere near the oval office.

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  20. Anonymous7:20 AM

    I don't particularly like Bernie, but know I'll vote for him should he be the nominee. The ONLY reason I'd vote for him is because I do not want a Trump or Cruze presidency. I do not understand why many Bernie supporters say they will not vote for Hillary in a similar scenario. Makes me wonder about their critical thinking skills!

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    1. Anonymous7:56 AM

      Because those Bernie supporters who won't vote for Hillary aren't real Democrats.

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    2. Anonymous8:22 AM

      Nor is Sanders....

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    3. Anonymous9:07 AM

      7:56am

      Correct, many of us Bernie supporters, like Bernie himself until he caved and switched to Dem, are Independents and have never been registered Dems. Many of us are a little upset that he sold his soul and jumped ship to the Dem party, but we'll vote for him as a Dem just as we would as an Independent. Hopefully he'll restore in Independent party status after this election.

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  21. Anonymous7:23 AM

    Still losing respect for Bernie little by little. No actually he's starting to piss me off!

    The people who are voting for Trump want a revolution and to destroy the Republican party completely and turn it into an extreme right wing party.

    Now I'm seeing how those voting for Sanders want a revolution as well and are happy to destroy the Democrat party in the process, tear down what we've accomplished and start from scratch. Now is not the time unless you want complete & utter political chaos where ANYthing could happen. Now is not the time to weaken our stances and I just don't trust that Bernie is the best person to be able to work with others to accomplish this.

    This is not how things get accomplished in our country. Both Trump and Sanders stand for IDEALS and what they propose without details is UNREALISTIC.

    Hillary has experience and common sense. Not some pie in the sky promises that will never happen. I believe she is correct in working on the foundations liberals have accomplished and to build on what is already there.

    Bernie you just can't do it with your vague promises anymore than Trump is gonna make Mexico pay for that wall and it keep people out of the USA.

    And now Bernie with his pro-gun stance has me scratching my head & making me suspicious of him. He's starting to show his true colors and that's a good thing. I think his ego is showing and that if he were to become president he would quickly find out how much in over his head he is and that he would spend a lot of time apologizing to his supporters because he want be able to live up to his promises!

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    1. Anonymous10:04 AM

      Bernie sounds more Libertarian liberal than a progressive (left/right centralist).

      dowl

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  22. Anonymous7:24 AM

    I was right down the middle with Bernie and Hillary, but this made the decision for me. Hillary all the way now. I've unfollowed all the Facebook pages Bernie had going.

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    1. Anonymous8:20 AM

      Good suggestion! I had followed Bernie on twitter but just went and unfollowed him. I respect the idealistic young people who like his message, but time to send Bernie himself a message.

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    2. Anonymous8:24 AM

      Everyone here was either or but now are all HRC. Sanders has screwed the pooch and lost three votes here and we know we are not alone. His interview and his LIES are just too much to take.

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    3. Anonymous8:34 AM

      Same here. I just sent another donation to Hillary.

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    4. Anonymous9:09 AM

      Oh noes, well we know it's serious when someone says they unfollowed someone on Facebook or Twitter by golly. Shit just got real for sure ;-)

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    5. Anonymous9:53 AM

      You sound kind of young, 909a. Maybe too young to have learned the lesson that smacked Howard Dean in the face in 2004: you live by the Internet, you die by the Internet. But in deference to your point I will go make a nice donation to HRC. Thanks for reminding us all that it is important to put our money where our mouths are.

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    6. Anonymous10:33 AM

      9:53

      No I'm probably older than you are, and I just find you social media types so funny, thinking that you are actually impacting the world with your Twitter and Facebooks instead of actually being boots on the ground for causes you believe in.

      Also too, sure, donate money to candidates. Why would you do that? It isn't tax deductible!

      I personally would never donate to candidates because the system is broken. Until we have a national system of elections with caps on donations and campaign spending and length of campaigns I'll not participate in that mess, thank you very much, plus once again, I.can't.write.it.off! Why would I give money away if I can't use if to write down my tax burden?

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    7. Anonymous12:34 PM

      10:33 Obama was ahead of the curve and engaged with us "social media types" and won 2 terms. I'm in my late 60's and some of us can't be boots on the ground for any number of reasons. So don't be so quick to dismiss millions of us who actually DO make impacts using social media. If it's good enough for Margaret and Helen it's good enough for me!

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  23. Karl Rove7:25 AM

    Hilly is good for the military industrial complex, not for the people of the USA, Iraq, Syria or the Gaza Strip.

    But she did push the Panama trade agreement, among others, all good for the 1%!

    Go Hilley!

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    1. Anonymous7:53 AM

      I have always wanted to say this>
      "little dick KARL ROVE FUCK OFF"!!!

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    2. Anonymous9:50 AM

      If only you were real, so I could say: Hey, Turd Blossom! You losing your mind live on Faux News as they called Ohio for President Obama in the 2012 election was the BEST thing that will EVER air on that network! XOXO

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    3. Anonymous10:20 AM

      Yeah, buddy. Everything wrong with the world is this ONE woman's fault. Keep spewing that crap, Bernie supporters, it's REALLY helping win people over to your camp.

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  24. Anonymous7:28 AM

    Bernie Sanders is using this quote unquote accusation against Secretary Hillary Clinton as a rally call to infuriate his followers. Is he that stubborn to investigate what was actually said for himself and when it was said?

    How will Bernie Sanders interface with world leaders when he reads a rag newspaper and he goes bezerk as usual.

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    1. Anonymous7:59 AM

      Maybe he's beginning to fancy himself the Trump of the Democrat party and is now taking pages from Trumps playbook.

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    2. Anonymous10:21 AM

      I think he might be buying into his own cult of personality a little bit.

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  25. Anonymous7:29 AM

    Here's another thing I don't like that Bernie does. He often speaks as if he's in the 3rd person. In other words when asked questions he doesn't just outright say his answer. He's always saying, "I WOULD say" or "I WOULD answer your question like this". If you truly believe in something Bernie don't be yanking our chain - just say it!

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    1. Anonymous11:31 AM

      YES!!! I have listened to "Fridays with Bernie" on Thom Hartmann's Progressive radio program for years and I couldn't quite put my finger on what bugged me about Bernie and that's it!!! How he would always answer questions from the callers with a non-answer or an answer that he thought the caller wanted to hear. I didn't particularly think that he ever got any legislation through in all his years in the House and now the Senate. The bill to benefit the Vets, yes, but what else? Thanks for your comment, 7:29.

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  26. Anonymous7:29 AM

    Discounting entire states, telling them their vote means nothing, and now telling those democrats their choice is unqualified? This is not a winning strategy.

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  27. Anonymous7:32 AM

    I'd like to know how many gun manufacturers are funneling money to his campaign.

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    1. Anonymous8:21 AM

      I would like to know what his position on gun control would have been all these years if he didn't have to pander to Vermont voters.

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    2. Anonymous8:39 AM

      Vermont voters don't get a voice at the table?

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    3. Anonymous8:44 AM

      @ anon 8:21 am
      I thought Bernie had ethics? Why would he pander to anyone? Oh, so you really mean he goes with the wind to keep his cushy job...gotcha.

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    4. Anonymous10:07 AM

      Hey now, it's not pandering when Bernie does it. He "represented" the state of Vermont on lax gun control, military contracts, and dumping nuclear waste on other communities. Does he agree with those things or is it because he's "representing the state of Vermont?" I would hope an idealist like Bernie Sanders wouldn't go against his own personal beliefs like that.

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    5. Anonymous11:34 AM

      Bernie has said that he tried to run for election in Vermont with his ideals and gun control and he got primaried or he got defeated so he had to change his ideals. That seemed double standard to my thinking. Have your ideals and get defeated or change your ideals and get elected. hmmmmm.

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    6. Anonymous12:41 PM

      10:07 That's one of my problems with Bernie. I can't trust what he would do if he were president and he were in the middle of a political tornado. Which way will he go? Hillary lays out her strategies specifically so I'm leaning towards trusting that she would have more of a steady hand on the rudder.

      Too many questions and ifs about Bernie.

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  28. Karl Rove7:32 AM

    Just dropped in to say how much I love the Panama papers!

    I am sure HRC will be a rock star in the USA release!

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    1. Anonymous8:33 AM

      Um, I guess you've never heard of the state of Delaware?

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  29. Anonymous7:36 AM

    Poor old Rachel Maddow making a cat's ass mouth but made absolutely no mention of what Hillary Clinton actually said.

    I remember when the facts were important to her.

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    1. Anonymous11:03 AM

      She is about as useless as tits on a bull... or more specifically in her case, tits on a Maddow.

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    2. Anonymous3:02 PM

      Lol 11:03 AM so true.

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  30. Anonymous7:37 AM

    Boys will be boys>
    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/eric-trump-just-threatened-ted-cruz-on-twitter-with-this-nonsensical-mafia-meme/

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  31. Anonymous7:39 AM

    Bernie Sanders get this through your old brain. Hillary Clinton is not your wife. Hillary Clinton will not put with your degrading rhetoric.

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    1. Anonymous8:01 AM

      Well said.

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  32. Anonymous7:46 AM

    This is the Clinton campaign spinning Sanders' words with help from her friends in the media. Clearly when you look at the whole quote Sanders says she is unqualified in the sense that she is representing monied special interest groups and not the average American. The sort of trolling response by the Clinton campaign (instead of addressing the contributions--the meat of the sentiment, they're focusing on one single word) has turned me off from Clinton just when I thought I could warm up to her again.

    She is not a good choice. Her proposition to the American people is not a change from the status quo that gives everything to the 1%, it is merely "if you don't vote for me, you're going to get someone worse, like Kasich". Fine with me, I'd rather deal with that for four years than be strung along for eight.

    Oh, and just so everyone knows, we've been in the current bull market for a LONG time. This means that whoever the next candidate is, they're going to pray for a recession in the next couple years so that it can be over and done with before the next election. Hold on to your investments, it's going to be rocky.

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    1. Anonymous8:09 AM

      Garbage, he was putting words in Clinton's mouth that she never said and never expressed.

      Sanders said it. Clinton did not.

      He's not going to wriggle out of this, even his fangirl Rachel Maddow was paralysed.

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    2. Anonymous8:42 AM

      Sorry, but Bernie said it not Hillary. Now you are just outright lying for Senile Bernard.

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    3. Anonymous9:42 AM

      Her friends in the media? Are you kidding me? This is the same media that shouted "Benghazi!" with the GOP.

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    4. Anonymous10:00 AM

      You'd rather deal with a rabid anti-choicer like Kasich?

      Some of us would rather have incremental advances rather than throw the whole thing back to the GOP.

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    5. Anonymous10:04 AM

      None of that actually makes her "unqualified."

      Unqualified doesn't mean "I don't agree with your policies or some of your choices."

      Unqualified means you don't understand how the government works or what the job entails, or how you get from step A to step C without knowing what step B is.

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  33. Anonymous7:58 AM

    Anger Management: Sanders Fights for Employees, Except His Own

    When Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) announced three months ago that he'd seek the Democratic presidential nomination, the New York Times described him as a "grumpy grandfather-type."

    That caricature has persisted — most notably in a recent Washington Post listicle with the irresistible headline: "7 ways Bernie Sanders reminds us of our grumpy grandpa."

    According to some who have worked closely with Sanders over the years, "grumpy grandpa" doesn't even begin to describe it. They characterize the senator as rude, short-tempered and, occasionally, downright hostile. Though Sanders has spent much of his life fighting for working Vermonters, they say he mistreats the people working for him.

    "As a supervisor, he was unbelievably abusive," says one former campaign staffer, who claims to have endured frequent verbal assaults. The double standard was clear: "He did things that, if he found out that another supervisor was doing in a workplace, he would go after them. You can't treat employees that way."

    Like several others quoted in this column, the campaign worker would speak only on the condition of anonymity, saying that to do otherwise would constitute "career suicide" in a small state such as Vermont. But others echoed the former employee's story, saying the senator is prone to fits of anger.

    "Bernie was an asshole," says a Democratic insider who worked with Sanders on the campaign trail. "Just unnecessarily an asshole."

    ... "He yelled in meetings all the time," says one of Sanders' former Senate staffers...

    Rosenfeld quotes Sanders himself in the book as saying, "Some people say I am very hard to work with. They say I can be a real son of a bitch. They say I can be nasty, I don't know how to get along with people. Well, maybe there's some truth to it."...

    "Everything was done at the last second," that person said. "He made all the decisions."...

    Years later, during a tough interview with Vermont Public Radio's Jane Lindholm, Sanders hung up on the "Vermont Edition" host while recording an interview. Lindholm had been grilling him on a fundraising email he sent just three days after a gunman killed six people in Tucson and injured then-congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

    "It surprised me," Lindholm says. "It's unusual for a politician to hang up on you."

    But Lindholm says she doesn't hold it against him...


    Read more at
    http://m.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/anger-management-sanders-fights-for-employees-except-his-own/Content?oid=2834657

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    1. Anonymous8:26 AM

      In other words he is TRUMP!

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  34. Anonymous8:02 AM

    Just imagine how Donald would easily rip Bernie to shreds and take Bernies "scorch the earth" supporters away from him.

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  35. Anonymous8:02 AM

    I bet Sen sanders thanks god every day that he is not married to Hillary, I do!

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    1. Anonymous8:35 AM

      I thank God that I'm not married to misogynistic Deadbeat dad Bernie! What an arrogant egomaniac!

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    2. Anonymous8:36 AM

      Wy, because if he asked her to 'step aside,' she'd clock him?

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    3. Anonymous8:40 AM

      I suppose he does because Hillary wouldn't stand for his misogynic treatment, his verbal abuse, or the pushes his wife puts up with.

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    4. Anonymous9:14 AM

      What? Being married to Hillary would be a dream. You could have as many side pieces as you want and she just doesn't care!

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    5. Anonymous9:43 AM

      8:02, what a moronic, juvenile comment.

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    6. Anonymous2:36 PM

      You should be so lucky. Pathetic little weenie.

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  36. Anonymous8:05 AM

    Internet:
    Bernie Sanders Is Cold As Ice
    He’s chilly with staff, frosty with fans, and regularly ices out reporters. So how is the socialist firebrand from Vermont suddenly torching Hillary Clinton in the race for president?


    According to some who have worked closely with Sanders over the years, "grumpy grandpa" doesn't even begin to describe it. They characterize the senator as rude, short-tempered and, occasionally, downright hostile. Though Sanders has spent much of his life fighting for working Vermonters, they say he mistreats the people working for him.

    "As a supervisor, he was unbelievably abusive," says one former campaign staffer, who claims to have endured frequent verbal assaults. The double standard was clear: "He did things that, if he found out that another supervisor was doing in a workplace, he would go after them. You can't treat employees that way."

    Like several others quoted in this column, the campaign worker would speak only on the condition of anonymity, saying that to do otherwise would constitute "career suicide" in a small state such as Vermont. But others echoed the former employee's story, saying the senator is prone to fits of anger.

    "Bernie was an asshole," says a Democratic insider who worked with Sanders on the campaign trail. "Just unnecessarily an asshole."

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251657853

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  37. A Superfan In Atlanta8:09 AM

    OMG! The problem with Sanders statement is that Clinton supporters totally missed his dig at the Citizens United ruling and his goal to get money out of politics and is trying to change the message to he called me names -- again, like a spoiled child that is not getting their way.

    Good Lord!!! He said she is not qualified IF she is taking millions from special interests groups through her SuperPAC. Does she have a SuperPAC? Yes!
    Is she taking millions from special interest groups? Yes!
    Then, based on the conditions of his argument, she isn't qualified.

    Talk about making emotional decisions without processing and using our listening skills.

    How fragile is the Democratic Party if an Independent can come in and shake things up like this simply by questioning Clinton's actions? THIS is why so many are flocking to Sanders. Call a spade a spade -- regardless of how much the truth hurts.

    I mean, just look at what #HillarySoQualified pulled up.

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    1. Anonymous8:35 AM

      Nice try. There is also a Bernie SuperPAC honey. And he has millions from corps as well. He tries to pretend he's just this down home nobody with lots of $2 donors. but it isn't true.

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    2. Anonymous8:37 AM

      So Bernie got millions but that's okay?
      Now go light up another joint.

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    3. Anonymous8:38 AM

      BTW Bernie IS getting special interest money through the DNC but yet I haven't heard him turning it down.

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    4. Anonymous9:15 AM

      Thank You!

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    5. Anonymous9:24 AM

      Since Bernie was an independent and such a great leader how is it he didn't get the dems and reps to pass any of his campaign promises hell I don't think he even tried to get anything done basically he's a lot of talk and no action.

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    6. Anonymous11:54 AM

      None of that makes her unqualified.

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  38. Linda8:10 AM

    My husband is an old white guy only a couple years younger than Bernie. We are both bleeding heart liberals, but I've been a Hillary supporter for a long time - worked on her primary campaign in 2008. My husband is a big Bernie supporter, but even he was appalled at Bernie saying Hilary was not qualified. He says that Bernie "got confused." Really? Well that doesn't bode well. I can get confused and my husband can get confused and anyone else can get confused. But a presidential candidate should not. I'm sorry, but his age is showing and I speak from personal experience. I'm only 64 and I fully realize that I am only about 85% as sharp as I used to be and my husband has lost a bigger percentage than that. It happens to the best and brightest of us. Bernie needs to just admit loss and get out of the race.

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    1. Anonymous8:36 AM

      Thank you!

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    2. Crystal Sage9:55 AM

      Yes, thanks for that.

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    3. Anonymous9:57 AM

      Preach it!!!!

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  39. Anonymous8:15 AM

    The Sanders campaign must have sent out emails saying get on social media or whatnot. All I'm seeing on Twitter the past hour is Bernie worship.

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  40. Anonymous8:16 AM

    She's one of the most qualified people to EVER run for president. Desperation is not a cute look.

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  41. Anonymous8:18 AM

    WHAT?

    He’s “a prick” and “an asshole” to his staff, known as “a screamer and a table-banger

    NOT GRUMPY GRANDPA


    SANDERS ABUSED STAFF
    “a screamer and a table-banger”
    December 29, 2015

    This is absolutely unsurprising. There's a strong correlation between social justice advocacy and abusive tendencies. The more someone shouts about inequality, the more they relish stepping on people.

    Bernie Sanders rants about inequality and billionaires abusing people. But this is what it's like to work for him in real life...

    He’s “a prick” and “an asshole” to his staff, known as “a screamer and a table-banger.”

    For these reasons, Jaffe said the word some people used to describe Sanders’ attitude toward his employees was “abusive.” (The senator’s field director Phil Fiermonte saw it differently, telling the author that Sanders just has high expectations.)

    This is common among Bernie Sanders types. Ralph Nader's ex-volunteers have spoken about his abusive behavior for years.

    Despite the millions of dollars he commands, he historically paid his professional staff less than minimum wage. Nader, who told Business Week during the last campaign that he offers staff “unlimited sick leave,” ordered staffer George Riley to take a two-week leave of absence to work on a political campaign, refusing him to pay for the time. When I worked for Ralph Nader in 1980-81, he paid us $8,000 a year, hardly enough to get by on even then. We could scarcely afford the time to spend money, though, because Nader expected staff to work around the clock.

    Staff turned over rapidly. Few people could stand the hours, pay and abuse for more than a year or two.

    "How can we go out and try to save the world from people when we're grinding people to death all the time?"-- John Esposito, original staffer at Nader's Center for the Study of Responsive Law...


    http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261279/michael-moore-and-ralph-nader-bernie-sanders-daniel-greenfield

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      http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/anger-management-sanders-fights-for-employees-except-his-own/Content?oid=2834657

      "At his best, Sanders is a skilled reader and manipulator of people and events," Rosenfeld wrote. "At his worst, he falls prey to his own emotions, is unable to practice what he preaches (though he would believe otherwise) and exudes a contempt for those he derides, including his staff."

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    2. Anonymous10:16 AM

      "Says Rosenfeld, who had to mend fences with the AP after Sanders' Statehouse tirade, "He thought I was a shitty press secretary because I wouldn't yell at Sue Allen, Chris Graff and the Associated Press." Allen, then an AP scribe, now serves as Shumlin's deputy chief of staff.

      Years later, during a tough interview with Vermont Public Radio's Jane Lindholm, Sanders hung up on the "Vermont Edition" host while recording an interview. Lindholm had been grilling him on a fundraising email he sent just three days after a gunman killed six people in Tucson and injured then-congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

      "It surprised me," Lindholm says. "It's unusual for a politician to hang up on you."

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  42. Anonymous8:19 AM

    ugh... it's past 2 am Down Under, there is a radio quiz on the radio, and the question is "What did Sarah Palin say were waiting at the border for illegal immigrants?" It's multiple choice and the first person eliminated one of the wrong ones, the next person passed and the third person got it right with a guess. Now they're all laughing at Sara.

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  43. Anonymous8:35 AM

    http://usuncut.com/politics/clintons-sandy-hook-attack-backfires/

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    1. Anonymous10:56 AM

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-general-election_us_5705b019e4b0a506064e3089

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  44. Anonymous8:39 AM

    I have been an ardent Bernie supporter but this last statement from him that HRC isn't qualified to be President has me rethinking my support. I thank him for bringing much needed discussion to the table and moving HRC a little further left. I am ready to get behind Hillary now. She is more than qualified to lead this country.

    Sheesh

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  45. Anonymous8:41 AM

    Bernie Sanders is getting worse by the day! I think he's losing it! I doubt seriously that he'll win the nomination - shit, he's not even a Democrat!

    Hillary Clinton IS very much qualified for the position of President.

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  46. Anonymous8:43 AM

    FREE TUITION FOR EVERYBODY

    JUST DON'T GO TO SANDERS U


    2016
    What happened at Sanders U.
    When Bernie Sanders' wife was in charge of small, private Burlington College in Vermont, it sank into debt.
    By MAGGIE SEVERNS 02/11/16 05:19 AM EST

    When Jane Sanders was in charge of a small private college in Vermont for seven years, it sank deep into debt while trying to expand its campus. Many students took out tens of thousands of dollars in loans to attend, but their investment was questionable: Only a third of former Burlington College students earn more than the average person with a high school diploma.

    Jane Sanders’ husband, presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, has offered a higher-education plan that would make tuition at public colleges free. But it would do little to prod colleges, public or private, to keep costs down or ensure that a college degree is worthwhile for graduates.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-jane-vermont-burlington-college-219114

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  47. Anonymous8:47 AM

    How ‘Citizens United’ is helping Hillary Clinton win the White House: "Clinton’s massive campaign machine is built of the very stuff — super PACs, secret cash, unlimited contributions — she says she’ll attack upon winning the White House."
    https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/04/07/19521/how-citizens-united-helping-hillary-clinton-win-white-house

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    1. Anonymous11:56 AM

      With all that cash she'll be able to go toe-to-toe with the Koch's cash cows during the general election. How would Bernie be able to get his message out in the last month or so when the Republicans are spending millions on TV, radio, and internet political ads. Until Citizens United is overturned you would be crazy not to use the money from PACs for ads and gettting the message out.

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  48. Anonymous8:53 AM

    Bernie has "promised" to do many things if elected that are simply unachievable. They all do it, Obama made hundreds of promises that were unachievable, Hillary is making promises that she would not be able to fulfill. It's politics, that's how it works.

    Remember "Read my lips, no new taxes"! 90% of all campaign promises are broken.

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    1. Anonymous9:52 AM

      What hundreds of promises did BO make?

      Furthermore, which of them are making promises to do things without having any plan to actually start to get them done?

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    2. Anonymous10:15 AM

      Progress! Admitting he's full of unattainable pie-in-the-sky promises is the first step back to reality.

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    3. Anonymous10:28 AM

      http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

      At a glance Obama's promises.

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    4. Anonymous12:58 PM

      Oh come on. Everyone knows that it's impossible for any one politician to deliver 100% on every promise so cut the crap.

      President Obama Has Done a LOT! A List of 350 Accomplishments so far, With Citations

      http://pleasecutthecrap.com/obama-accomplishments/

      https://www.facebook.com/obamaaccomplishments

      Hillary wants to BUILD on what has been accomplished. Bernie wants a revolution and start over. Obama goes down in my book as one of the best Presidents in history and that's just one reason why I'm leaning Hillary.

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  49. Anonymous9:06 AM



    http://www.ibtimes.com/bill-clinton-says-he-will-stop-paid-speeches-if-hillary-clinton-elected-president-1961307


    "The former president also addressed questions about money flowing to the foundation from foreign governments with business before the U.S. government, keying in on a $500,000 donation from Algeria in 2010 that was earmarked for earthquake relief in Haiti. As International Business Times reported, that money came to the foundation at a time when Algeria was lobbying the State Department, and the country soon received a large increase in weapons export authorizations from the agency. Some of those export authorizations were for weapons classified as “toxicological agents, including chemical agents [and] biological agents.”

    “[Critics] said, ‘Oh you got $500,000 from Algeria at very same time they were lobbying the State Department,’” Clinton said. “Those two facts are accurate but if you put them back-to-back they are incredibly misleading. Here’s why: I never considered that the Algerians gave me the money.”

    Clinton said that at the time of the donation, “We put out the word that if anyone wanted to send me money I would forward it on quickly to Haiti where it would do most good and would take zero overhead.” The sequence of the money and the lobbying, he asserted, “was just an accident. To me it was like a pass-through. I didn’t even think about it.”

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  50. Karl Rove9:35 AM

    Clintons last win AZ, a state that is being investigated for voter suppression and whose AG admits there was election fraud.

    Go Hilly!

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    1. Anonymous9:50 AM

      Yes, she would have actually won by more.

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    2. Anonymous2:05 PM

      Not so much 9:50. I watched hours of testimony at the hearing and personal uploaded videos, plus read multitude tweets and Facebook posts/comments and everyone was a Bernie supporter. That's not even counting the hundreds/thousands of voters that had to walk off the lines because they couldn't wait (up to 6) hours to vote.

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    3. Anonymous3:39 PM

      Every one was a Bernie supporter. That's quite a statement to make.

      You mean a sample that was skewed by people with more access to technology were all Bernie supporters?

      And you extrapolate that to the hundred, if not thousands of voters that couldn't wait hours to vote? They are all Sanders voters, too (or even mostly)?

      Sorry, but I need to see much better data than that.

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    4. Anonymous3:50 PM

      Everyone was a Bernie supporter? Hundreds and thousands of voters who couldn't vote and everyone was a Bernie supporter?

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  51. Anonymous10:44 AM

    I fear for a President Clinton because of the obstructionism she'll face in Congress. The legislators who are still hounding her over Benghazi and her emails are going to be the same Congress that she'll have to deal with as POTUS, and you can guarantee that they aren't going to work with her.

    I think the obstructionism exhibited by congress during a Clinton presidency will make it seem like Obama had it easy.

    I believe that Bernie would face a bit less in terms of counter productive actions from the majority of Congress.

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    1. Anonymous11:15 AM

      Don't forget - if Hillary Clinton is elected POTUS (I will vote for her!), people in the U.S. Congress will lose seats and hopefully, the majority will change - as well it should!

      I don't see her possible obstruction reaching anywhere near that of what President Obama has had to experience.

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    2. Anonymous12:20 PM

      Do you? Bernie has not made one friend in all of his yrs in congress and the Senate, they won't do anything more for him than Hillary, but Hillary will know how to handle it without flailing her arms and slamming whatever table is in front of her.

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    3. Anonymous1:00 PM

      Yes but she has more friends and knows how to work across the aisle to get things done. Repubs will chew up Bernie, obstruct his ideaology and spit him out! Then he'll get so made spittle will fly while he's waving kids off the lawn.

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  52. Anonymous10:46 AM

    Gryphen: "However it should be noted that Sanders' said "quote unquote" when describing what Hillary allegedly said, and that it demonstrably false."

    It's a problem that the CNN article quoted Sanders incorrectly and left the very important "quote unquote" part out.

    This should please Sanders supporters and maybe they won't hold any more protests at the CNN building in LA.



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  53. Anonymous10:54 AM

    "This is cynical. It's a lie. And it's playing with fire."
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/not-good-not-good-at-all--2?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Talking-Points-Memo+%28Talking+Points+Memo%3A+by+Joshua+Micah+Marshall%29

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    1. To be fair, Sanders didn't say she was unqualified because of her experience or knowledge. He was saying that all of the Wall street money funneled to her SuperPACs should disqualify her from running because she could not claim the she was not beholden to the corporations which are paying for her election. That was what it looked like to me but they are running with this headline all over the place.

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    2. Anonymous1:31 PM

      You are adding in your own interpretation of the word "unqualified."

      Being "unqualified" and "disqualified" are two different things.

      Regardless, she is neither. The only thing that would disqualify her from running is if she was being funded illegally. She is not.

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    3. MA @ 12:56, he did qualify his definition of 'unqualified' to include persons who take funds as you claim. But then I wonder, under Sanders definition, who IS qualified? Just him?

      I'm not saying there is no corporate influence in our politics, I'm just sayin, defining qualification to be president the way he did leaves out ... well, pretty much everyone.

      As one person on another thread I read noted (and got many derogatory comments because he dared to say), if Bernie is the Dem. nominee he will be facing a huge battle against the Rep. nominee and will need money, and where will that come from?

      There are Bernie-affiliated PACs out there, advocating for him.

      Of course, I always advise people give directly to the campaigns of the candidate of their choice, rather than PACs. If everyone did that, there would be no need to overturn Citizens United. Just don't ever give money to a PAC, and it will die, just like a certain someone's PAC is in political ICU, hanging on by a thread.

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  54. Anonymous12:03 PM

    This is so hilarious! Clinton and your supporters, is the nomination in the bag or not? Cuz if you really believe it's in the bag, why aren't you kicking back and letting the old socialist and his minions have their fun and campaign their little hearts out? The reason Hill and y'all have gone Defcon 5 on the Bern Bern is because you know it's not in the bag. In fact, I suspect the Clinton campaign have got some internals that show she's in big trouble in NY. It pisses her and you off that the old socialist isn't just meekly submitting to being her punching bag. Fun stuff.

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    1. Anonymous1:54 PM

      There's nothing wrong with discussing it and yes discussion is fun stuff!

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    2. Anonymous2:31 PM

      Why do you expect Hillary to sit back meekly and be deadbeat Dad Bernie's punching bag?

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  55. Anonymous12:16 PM

    I think the obstuction Clinton will see in Congress will be exactly the same as what President Obama is now seeing. I also think Sen. Sanders has been in Congress long enough to be able to do some work arounds to the kind of obstuction Clinton will see. Don't forget Bernie is usually on the right side of history through out his politicl career, the other candidate not so much.

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      Work arounds? That's very vague. Does he have a line of some constitutional finagling that would allow him to get everything he wants without compromising or making concessions?

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  56. Anonymous12:28 PM

    CNN Just Got Called Out for Manipulating
    Bernie Sanders’ NY Daily News Interview


    http://usuncut.com/politics/ny-daily-news-argument-destroyed-cnn/

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    1. Anonymous2:30 PM

      If he is so easily manipulated what is he going to do in talks with Putin?

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  57. Anonymous12:52 PM

    Uneasy lies the head that expected to already be wearing the crown.

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  58. Bernie Sanders said IF ... IF Hillary Clinton is getting millions from financial institutions supporting her PACs, she is not qualified. I dunno, what do you think? She's apparently in the pockets of big banks and other corps I'd rather not have a huge say in our government.

    Hillary said Bernie hasn't thought it through and is unprepared for POTUS. Sounds like 'not qualified' to me. Remember the criticism of Barack Obama when he was running? They said he was thinking too big, couldn't be done.

    @Griffin, please don't make your blog into a pro-Hillary house, at least not until and if she is the nominee. Let us decide who we want on the D ticket.

    BTW, IMO Sanders is the true progressive. Hillary is a cloaked conservative. Cruz is a true religious nut regressive. Trump is just a bombastic clown, a giant vile talking yam of a man.

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    1. Anonymous2:29 PM

      Bernie said earlier this week when asked about his foreign policy stance " I haven't thought about it" That sounds unprepared to me which is what Hillary said about him.

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    2. Anonymous3:25 PM

      Here is the real problem for BERNIE...he is finally being VETTED. Surprisingly he has skeletons in his closet. His carefully woven story is starting to fall apart and we are realizing that he really is a GRUMPY OLD MAN. He's fooled many of his supporters but if he becomes the nomination it will only get worse.

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    3. Anonymous3:33 PM

      Hillary Clinton is not a conservative no matter how many times people say it.

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    4. Anonymous3:33 PM

      That still wouldn't make her unqualified.

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    Anonymous 12:16 PM said
    I think the obstuction Clinton will see in Congress will be exactly the same as what President Obama is now seeing. I also think Sen. Sanders has been in Congress long enough to be able to do some work arounds

    Work arounds or reach arounds?

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    1. Anonymous2:28 PM

      Why would you think that since Bernie han't made one friend in DC in decades?

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  60. Anonymous2:29 PM

    Sanders and Wife Steered Campaign, Nonprofit Money to Family and Friends
    Public records show pattern of payments to Democratic presidential candidate’s inner circle

    Bernie Sanders and his wife have on numerous occasions steered money from organizations under their control to friends and family members, public records show.

    The payments benefitted the wife of the Democratic presidential candidate, his stepdaughter, and the son of a former colleague in city government whom Sanders has described as a close friend.

    Sanders, a self-described socialist, is now running for the presidency on an anti-corruption platform, decrying public officials’ attempts to use their positions for personal financial gain.

    Following 16 years as a member of the House, Sanders was elected to the Senate in 2006. His political campaigns were an early vehicle for payments to his family members.

    According to Jane O’Meara Sanders, the senator’s wife, Sanders’ House campaigns paid her more than $90,000 for consulting and ad placement services from 2002 to 2004. She pocketed about $30,000 of that money.

    Her daughter Carina Driscoll, Sanders’ stepdaughter, also drew a salary from the campaign. She was paid more than $65,000 between 2000 and 2004, according to her mother.

    After working for the campaign, the senator’s wife would come under scrutiny for expenditures at Burlington College, where she was hired as president in 2004. While she led the school, it paid six-figure sums to her daughter and the son of a family friend.

    Burlington College offered its students a study abroad program in the Caribbean, according to tax filings. It reported spending about $47,000 on that program in the tax year beginning in mid-2008.

    Around that time, the son of Jonathan Leopold, a Burlington College board member, purchased a small resort in the Bahamas called Andro’s Beach Club and an accompanying hotel, Nathan’s Lodge.

    Leopold served with Sanders in the Burlington city government—as mayor, Sanders appointed Leopold city treasurer—before becoming embroiled in scandal involving millions of dollars in payments to a Burlington telecommunications company.

    Sen. Sanders has described Leopold as so close a friend as to be considered “family.” He reportedly discouraged Sanders’ socialist impulses early in their careers. Efforts to reach Leopold were unsuccessful.

    Shortly after Leopold’s son, also named Jonathan, purchased the resort, Burlington College began writing it large checks for all-inclusive stays for its study abroad students.

    The younger Leopold later said during a deposition related to a lawsuit filed by a student who was injured at the rest that he conducted boat tours and snorkeling trips “on behalf of Burlington College.”

    From 2009 through 2011, when O’Meara Sanders stepped down as president of the school, it paid the resort about $68,000, according to annual tax filings. The payments stopped the year after she left the position.

    Her departure was a source of controversy. She reportedly overstated pledged contributions to the school in order to secure a loan from the Roman Catholic Diocese of Burlington. The diocese lost between $1.5 million and $2 million on the deal, according to local reports.

    By that time, the school had paid huge sums to the Vermont Woodworking School, which is run by Driscoll. The college eventually paid the school more than $500,000 for classes at its Fairfax, Vt., campus, about 30 miles from Burlington.

    Burlington College even established a Master of Fine Arts program in woodworking with leased space at the school as its major facility.

    Tax filings show that the college continued paying the woodworking school in the year after O’Meara Sanders left, but stopped doing so the year after that.

    The Sanders campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-and-wife-steered-campaign-nonprofit-money-to-family-and-friends/

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