Courtesy of The Washington Free Beacon:
Bernie Sanders’ wife Jane lamented the slow pace of the FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of state Thursday.
“It would be nice if the FBI moved it along,” Sanders said.
First off it is pretty shitty that Jane Sanders is feeding into this Right Wing fantasy that Hillary Clinton will be indicted.
Secondly she said this on freaking Fox News where all of those Right Wing nutjobs are waiting for their daily ration of conspiracy theory flavored red meat.
Just a couple of reminders, there is NO evidence that the FBI has any intention of indicting Hillary Clinton.
There is also NO evidence that her e-mail server was hacked. (However the State Department e-mails were hacked.)
And consider this for a moment. IF the President thought, even for an instant, that Hillary was in danger of being indicted don't you think he would have encouraged Joe Biden to jump into the race so that there would be somebody out there who could protect his legacy?
Because I can guarantee that Bernie Sanders has no intention of doing so.
No I found this whole interview on Fox News to be in incredibly poor taste.
For the spokesperson of an ostensibly liberal candidate, who claims to want to stick to substantive policy discussions, to be throwing gasoline onto the radical Right Wing conspiracy bonfire is inexcusable.
Jane is for Jane. She acts like she's running herself. Sad to know how right wing she truly is.
ReplyDeleteSanders needs to tell his wife to shut her pie hole, she should talk abut being investigated when she ran a college into the dirt and has several more nefarious things in her back ground that will come BLAZING out if Sanders wins the nomination. SHE is his weakness not a strength and he better tell her to can it or else he is doomed.
DeleteI watched the video, and I personally didn't think she meant it the way Gryphon is trying to portray it. She wants the FBI to "shit or get off the pot"--and I bet the Hillary camp would be happy for this to be wrapped up as well so that it is a non-issue and not lingering.
DeleteThis recent whining about Sanders is really misplaced. His chances of winning are slim to none. If he's not a threat, it really is beneath you to tear him down. Just ignore him if you don't like what he's saying.
Trump has already used Sanders' criticisms of Clinton against her. Sanders is poisoning the well. He needs to stop.
DeleteI wish someone would investigate Jane Sanders.
DeleteMrs Bernie seems to like to here herself speak.
ReplyDeleteIn other words... you are really nervous that all this talk might turn into a reality.
ReplyDeleteNope, those aren't the other words.
DeleteOnly the dimbulbs who buy into the usual insane RW conspiracy theories think there is anything criminal here.
DeleteYou seem to hang out here a lot, troll. No, we are not worried. What we do not need is someone supposedly on the progressive side throwing gasoline on the conspiracy theories of Fox Noise. Worried? Ha. Wait until Hillary gets her claws into Trump's throat at the first debate.
Delete8:43 Yeah, that same troll by the name anonymous is all over the threads! :-)
Deletehttps://www.yahoo.com/news/attorney-general-says-hillary-clinton-134600814.html
ReplyDeleteOT-This too>
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From the article: interview on Fox News … incredibly poor taste
ReplyDeleteWell, I suppose the use of the word "incredibly" saves you from being redundant. :-)
Why is Jane suddenly making all these comments? Is she saying what Bernie doesn't want to say, or is she hijacking the campaign?
ReplyDeleteGreat questions! I'd also like to know.
DeleteI think she is very protective of her husband, thinks she needs to say the things that he can't, and also has aspirations of her own.
DeleteBut, like so many other Sanders surrogates, she often sticks her foot into her mouth.
Baby Jane loved taking that private jet to Europe.
DeleteBut in all reality Baby Jane is like Bernie, she has no friends, if things aren't going her way she has fits, and she thinks the world owes her something.
Because she has something to hide.
DeleteWhat little respect I had for Sanders just went out the window. Going on Fox News tells me everything I need to know. Why don't they show they tax returns?
ReplyDeleteSame as my reaction.
DeleteGOOD READ on HRC>
ReplyDeletehttp://www.armisticedesigns.com/blog/2016/4/21/the-quick-startup-guide-to-hillary
EVERYONE should read this!!!
DeleteStart at the bottom for FACTS.
Great article!
DeleteSome of this I knew, some I didn't. All of it is impressive.
I'm going to send it to some relatives who wrongly think she is "basically a Republican" based on what they've heard on Fox News and from the Sanders campaign.
8:49 AM:
DeleteTwittered a link to the article for my followers. Thank you...
I was a young adult when Hillary Clinton became First Lady. I remember her getting criticized for not being wifely or motherly enough and for not staying in her lane. I was outraged then and I'm still outraged.
DeleteThe truth is that Hillary Clinton has done more for progressive causes than Bernie Sanders and, to borrow a phrase, in heels and backwards.
So what is the most likely governing configuration for 2017? Most likely, Clinton will be president. The Senate, where Republicans have a 54 to 46 majority, will likely be almost evenly divided—52-48, 51-49, or 50-50, one way or the other—with Democrats slightly more likely than not to be on top. Republicans will likely retain their majority in the House, but their 58-seat margin could be cut in half. None of this is cast in stone. But keep in mind that more Americans are voting straight-party tickets than at any time in modern history, and Republicans have done nothing to repair their brand since the Republican National Committee “autopsy” report three years ago that urged the party to modernize by appealing to minorities, women, and younger voters.
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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/29/1521396/-Hillary-Hangout-4-29-16-If-there-is-truth-or-merit-in-the-criticism-try-to-learn-from-it
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DeleteUgly ass bitch
ReplyDeleteYou're not a liberal or a decent person.
DeleteI don't even have good feelings about Jane Sanders and I think you're comment is out of line.
DeleteI don't think the comment is out of line at all. Jane is a bitch and I have to agree with the original poster, she is ugly inside and outside.
DeleteAS my Mom used to say "the ugly always shines through".
And after all the comments from Bernie Bros about Hillary I have no issue saying those things, they have set the tone.
That's our prerogative, 9:52. I think we should rise above it and stick to our feminist ideals. "They did it first" is never a great excuse for acting badly.
DeleteI don't give a shit what Jane Sanders looks like. I'll just talk about the ugly things that come out of her mouth.
Edit: "that's YOUR prerogative"
Delete@ 10:34 am
DeleteThank you.
And to 10:20am
I'll say what the hell I want to say, and BTW I am not the original poster. You do not speak for me, I have been capable of doing so since age 2.
I didn't tell you not to say whatever you want to say. That's what "your prerogative means."
DeleteIf you want to stoop to the level of the bernie bros, that's up to you. You think we should, I think we shouldn't.
You're allowed your opinion; I'm allowed mine.
(I got that you aren't the original poster when you wrote "I'm not the original poster" in your comment)
Can't believe I'm saying this, but how refreshing that Melania Trump refuses to air her views to the press.
ReplyDeleteJane needs to shut her mouth; she's not the one running.
Jane is the puppet master. She controls Bernie
DeleteRefreshing? Does the woman do anything besides squint her eyes? I'd like to know what makes her tick. Is she a brilliant conversationalist? Is she at all political? Who are her friends? What is she passionate about? Does she have a favorite author? Musical? Bed time story for Baron?
DeleteIf she were able to come across as human and humane I believe women might consider Trump. But I am convinced she is as vapid as they come. Her world is small but pretty, in a most gawdy way. I consider marriage to Donald Trump to be torture.
Melania is quiet because after all these yrs she couldn't make it through an interview speaking English.
Delete9:52, was just about to type the same thing. She is supposedly 'fluent' in five languages, but her adopted country's is not one of them. Just as well-I suspect Trump doesn't want to hear much from his 'little women.'
DeleteGoogle "Julia Ioffe" and then get back to me about how refreshing Melania is.
Delete.... This confirms a suspicion we’ve held for months: that one of the reasons Bernie Sanders is keeping his campaign alive is the futile hope that Hillary’s emails will somehow derail her campaign...
ReplyDeletehttp://bluenationreview.com/jane-sanders-goes-on-fox-and-asks-fbi-to-speed-up-hillary-email-investigation/
Obviously, all of the attention has gone right to her head. Her head is so big, I am surprised she can get it through the door.
ReplyDeleteJane is showing her true colors. And her true colors are showing me that she is a bitch. Every bit as hateful as the right wing.
This is why I do not like the far right or the far left. They are so sanctimonious.
Not as hateful as you and your Queen od the dammed 1%.You are just saying something to be spouting nonsense. You sound just like Sarah Palin fans. No kidding
Delete@ anon 10:11 am
DeleteMaybe if you want to see hateful you should read your own post.
Jane is saying what Bernie won't or can't say....Hillarys indictmemt can only help Bernie.
DeleteIt would be nice if both the Sanders tempered their remarks here in the waning days of the primary campaign and tried not to give the Republicans verbatim material for political ads.
ReplyDeleteA Fan From Chicago
I was starting to have mixed feelings about Bernie. After Rachel's interview with Jane last night I can say I'm sick of him and I don't care for his bitchy wife one little bit. Get the fuck out, now you're doing nothing but giving the gotp ammunition. Mathematically there's no way Bernie can get the nomination. So his fat wife needs to quit trying to tear Hillary down and babbling Benghazi and all her other bull shit. Get a fucking clue, you were initially put in the running to make Hillary move to the left, now you're just acting like butt hurt bitches. Keep it up & you can call that fat fucking pos trump president trump and his plastic foreign porn star wife first lady.
DeleteI believe Jane Sanders is behind Bernie Sanders staying in the race. Not too long ago it sounded like Bernie and his campaign spokesmen are ready to call it quits. Then all of a sudden Jane Sanders is making announcements to anybody and everybody who will listen to him, I meant her, that Bernie is going all the way.
ReplyDeleteLady MacSanders!!
DeleteLady MacBernie!
DeleteThe only candidate I gave money to is Bernie. I support many of his policies.
ReplyDeleteBut then I started noticing some ugly things. Bernie dismissing (I'm sure it was quickly brought to his attention that he did it) women's reproductive rights as not being as important as other things. Complaining--like Trump-- about the primary process which they knew about before they ran, and of course attacking Clinton like a republican wasn't helpful. Then of course, there is not showing his tax returns and sending Jane out to complain about speaker transcripts---like a birther. Now this.
Jane has the right to say whatever she likes, but its getting pretty putrid as the Sanders campaign is starting to sound like butthurt teabaggers. Not pretty.
Wow! Me too.
DeleteSanders, who used to be the flip side of the Trump coin is gradually turning into the Trump side.
DeleteJane is being paid by Bernie's campaign so she is speaking for Bernie and not on her own, otherwise I agree with you completely.
DeleteEarly on, I gave money to Bernie's campaign, too. Since then I'm totally on Hillary's bandwagon. The next president needs to be fluent in the complex international problems. Bernie just talks one language and he keeps repeating it over and over and over. Plus he has never been a democrat and it annoys me now that he is trying to hijack the democratic party.
DeleteAngela,
DeleteSometimes we learn lessons in life and the one you now learned is to make sure your candidate is who you really want to give your money to. I have actually gotten to the point where I do not give money until someone has the nomination, and that doesn't mean I haven't given my time before that point either.
I wonder if Jane has any idea how....(you fill in the blank) she sounds. Probably not.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait until this shit is over. But the day after the election they'll fire up for 2018. It never stops.
He's up for re-election in 2018, so yeah.
DeleteHey Jane Sanders how about releasing more than one year of your tax forms? What are you afraid America will find out about you and Bernie?
ReplyDeleteLots of errors considering how shiftily she ran that college...
DeleteGood news. Teen pregnancy rate continues falling.
ReplyDelete"All in all, in the last 23 years teen birth rates have plummeted by 60 percent. In 1991, teen birth rates were 61.9 per 1,000. In 2014, teen pregnancies hit a low of 24.2 births per 1,000.
The same article said, while contraceptive use has increased, teens are having less sex.
Though small towns all over the county likely haven't changed since people value the simple life in them. It's not just Wasilla, by far, where everyone is always pregnant.
But I have noticed in my youngest's school people are talking about sex far less. I graduated in the mid 90s and sex was huge.
I volunteer at a local high school once a week, and I see very few 'couples' hanging on each other in the halls, or even holding hands. You see a very rare chaste kiss before they part ways. It has changed.
DeleteHuh? People value the simple life in small towns, so everyone is always pregnant?
DeleteI find both Sanders to be total pains in the ass! Boy oh boy - they are 'coming out' so differently than they did originally. How easily Americans were fooled!
ReplyDeleteBernie needs to give up and stop demeaning the Democratic Party. He really isn't a Democrat and is nothing more than a joke. Hillary is beating him and it's time he disappears!
You're being very kind. Bernie and Jane are total assholes with loyalties to no institution, only "the people," who they don't know what to do with. Hillary can withstand them, but it's too bad they turned out to be such nasty frauds.
DeleteHis whole life Bernie has quit when he has gotten upset about something.
DeleteHe quit the communist party when he wasn't put in the position he wanted.
He quit his first marriage when his first wife wouldn't get pregnant to keep him out of Nam, so he got a gf and got her pregnant, then he got mad that that pregnancy produced a child so he quit/ or never started parenting the child, then he quit working so he didn't have to support the child.
He is a nasty, angry, resentful type of person and always has been.
VERY INTERESTING
ReplyDeleteBernie Sanders was a member of several different political parties.
Prior to announcing his 2016 presidential bid, Bernie again switched parties to the Democratic Party.
Since Bernie Sanders will not win the Democratic Party presidential nomination, Jane Sanders is going with the SCORCHED EARTH PLAN. If we can't win neither will you.
Are the Sanders getting ready to switch to the Republican Party since they have been giving ammo to the Republican Party?
OT, is the Domestic Violence victim of Track Palin pregnant with the abusers fetus?
ReplyDeleteDid Track get her pregnant to keep her from testifying against the defendant Track?
No, Track is just giving the traditional Palin/Heath engagement fetus to his fiance. Since he's a deadbeat Dad already it's cheaper than a ring.
DeleteIf the woman was not on birth control, no he didn't "get her pregnant." She allowed that to happen.
Delete10:09 Harsh! But LOL.
Delete@ anon 10:28 am
DeleteActually women can get pregnant while using BC ( it's something called science, look into it).
If a man has sex he has just as much responsibility towards any pregnancy as the woman. If he didn't want to take the risk he shouldn't have had sex. But it's not like bastard children aren't the norm in the Palin KKKlan.
Evrr heard of a condom, 10:26?
DeleteRepublicans Invented the “Woman Card”
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/the-republicans-invented-_b_9797370.html
She followed up this comment wishing that the Vince Foster investigation would move more quickly, that we need another dozen Benghazi hearings, and that Monica Lewinsky would get her day in court.
ReplyDeleteHis wife isn't going to like it one bit when they start shredding Bernie to bits with his dastardly deeds throughout his life.
DeleteJust wait, Mrs. Bernie! It's not going to be fun for the two of you! But, perhaps it'll shut you both up for good!
When asked about trying to flip Clinton superdelegates on CNN’s New Day, Sanders said, “At the end, you know, we’re not calling superdelegates and saying will you switch your vote? Our thinking is that superdelegates are elected officials They came on with Sec. Clinton even before Bernie was in the race. It was a given that she was going to be the candidate, and we think and they’re going to see at the end if he has the momentum, if he has got the delegates neck and neck, even above Secretary Clinton and that’s possible, then they will be looking at the general election and saying who is the stronger candidate against the Republican nominee.”
ReplyDeleteThe Sanders campaign has definitely assumed a more passive tone towards Hillary Clinton.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/29/jane-sanders-admits-bernie-actively-flip-clinton-superdelegates.html
Yes, and then Jane gets on FOX and insinuates that the FBI will find something and Hillary will drop out. That's not exactly 'passive." Maybe passive aggressive.
DeleteHow low will the Sander's campaign go?
ReplyDeleteI thought NY might teach them a lesson, but no.
Jane Sanders seems like kind of a jerk.
ReplyDelete(yes, I know Bill Clinton is miles away from perfect)
Bill is a serial womanizer/rapist and Hillary is his enabler..
DeleteDoes that clear it up for you?
I told you we should have gotten a pretty spokesperson to announce you were staying in the race like the other campaigns has pretty spokeswomen making announcements for them instead of having that old witch cackling to the media.
ReplyDeleteYou are right. We fuc_ed up again.
DeleteHow about you shut up with your sexist bullshit?
DeleteTrump Camp Plans To Make A Play For Sanders Voters Who Won't Back Clinton
ReplyDeleteRepublican Donald Trump's presidential campaign is planning its next coup: vying for the votes of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) supporters who say they won't back Hillary Clinton in a general election.
"You have two candidates in Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders which have reignited a group of people who have been disenfranchised and disappointed with the way Washington, D.C. and career politicians have run the country," campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told CNN on Friday.
"Bernie Sanders has large crowds – not as large as Mr. Trump's, but large crowds – and so there is a level of excitement there for people about his messaging and we will bring those people in," he also said.
Trump has long claimed his ability to garner support from Democrats and independents, but a recent poll found just 13 percent of Democratic-leaning voters who support Sanders have a favorable view of the outspoken billionaire.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/lewandowski-trump-targeting-sanders-supporters
Please proceed, Donnie. You can have the white older retired and wealthy males who don't vote anyway.
DeleteDonald Trump Had ‘Difficulty Achieving and Maintaining an Erection’
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/book-donald-trump-had-difficulty-achieving-and-maintaining-an-erection/
I'll bet he still is! He's way over weight, probably has high blood pressure, possibly diabetic, more than likely high cholesterol and very likely heart trouble! He's likely on various medications too that will keep his dick limp!
DeleteHe's the age where he probably is having numerous problems especially with his massive body, weight, stress levels (many self created!) and anger issues. He is terribly out of shape and slow moving - no kick to his steps at all!
The man is a mess and so damned physically unattractive! His skin on his face, chin and neck don't look healthy in those up close-up photos either!
Did you hear his heavy breathing at this week's rallies? Every other sentence had him seeming to be having a hard time getting enough breath in his lungs.
DeleteHe is so hideous. Fat and getting slower all the time. I know they say that keeping the weight off during election season is tough because of all the junk food and stress, but he should have lost a noticeable twenty pounds by now if at all aware that he ought to look healthy and fit to match up visually with all his bragging. Yesterday my husband commented on how long Trump wears his ties. It's obvious that it's part phallic, but I told my husband that to women it's a trick to fool the ye--if he wore the tie the right length then it would end on his belly and everyone would have to take notice of the protrusion, but by lengthening the tie the protrusion is downplayed and the midsection also looks longer. I wish Hillary would lose a little weight before she debates him just so as to make him look all the worse.
DeleteHe never was a handsome man, but he sure aged horribly. He is so judgemental but everything about him is ugly. The skin on that nose (and rest of the face but especially the nose), yes. The lack of neck tone and all that blubber that hangs over his collar.The unmanicured eyebrows and squinty pink eyes. No upper lip and those bottom teeth that are always showing because of the underbite. The worst, teethwise, is when he says the word "China"--you must listen and watch for that because it's too funny/ugly.
11:46, every time I see Hillary I want to nag her about her weight. She carries it where it's most dangerous for heart risks. Otherwise I think she radiates good health. Trump looks unhealthy and ugly and toxified by bad food, sun, drink, lack of sleep, lack of discipline. Ugh. Have the stroke already Donnie.
Delete12:20 - are you a trainer or something?
DeleteI totally agree. Hillary looks glowing and healthy compared to him, and when her hair's done just right and they choose the right outfit for her, she looks much younger than she is. I take issue with some jacket-like tops that bell out and make her midsection look bigger. She could though, of course, lose some weight. But she really looks pretty darn good. Trump always looks dumpy. I don't care how expensive his suits are. He looks so dated and a bit of a mess. His body's horrible, but it's also just in the way he refuses to change styles at all and update his look. The loose pants legs and then how they're hemmed and hang over his boring shoes is just so 1980's--when he was debating next to all the other guys, his pants look was so out of style compared to everyone. And even though he's so massive, he has narrow slumpy shoulders that require those idiotic shoulder pads. The hair, of course, dates him badly. He will look like a buffoon standing up on stage with Hillary as she shows everyone what class and smarts and good health look like.
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DeleteHillary's weight is less than Baby Jane Sanders, so go nag nasty Jane.
I couldn't believe there was a YouTube video of Trump saying "China." It's from 2015 though and there aren't enough of the more recent pronunciations and movements with the mouth that he does now when he's screeching at a rally and emphasizes the country.
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs
As a woman older than Hillary Clinton, I think she looks just fine. And she has a beautiful smile as well. She is a woman who has lived a very busy life. I'm glad she's not spending all of her time at the spa or at the designer boutique buying clothes that a person needs to be shoehorned into. Hillary Clinton has a right to be proud of her many accomplishments, her intellect, and, frankly, of her appearance.
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Hillary Clinton wears a bullet proof vest. That's why her jackets are cut they way they are.
DeleteIn fairness, she may have been saying that in the context that they finish the probe and move on having found nothing (which is what will happen), so we can all put this nonsense behind us.
ReplyDeleteOn FOX? If that's what she meant, that is what she should have said. I think all this attention has gone to both of their heads; they really think they are going to win, and then somehow come up with a billon dollars to trump Trump, while shunning the DNC and Congressional Dems.
DeleteAnd a Nigerian Prince is going to email you and for a small fee he will repay you with millions when he gets out of the country.
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I was annoyed to see Rachel treat her with kid gloves last night on her show, not pressing her when she didn't answer the question asked. This woman knows exactly what she's doing.
ReplyDeleteCall me Jane, my ass.
It bothered me, too. Of course respect is called for, but she was acting so gushy and aw-shucks blushy. Love Rachel, but I hate when she does that. The great thing is that a quick remedy is to see what Lawrence O'Donnell opens his show with--it's usually something so juicy about idiot Trump, and then I feel better.
DeleteYes, gushy and aw-shucks blushy -- as much as I respect Rachel, that pretty much nails it. I never miss her show and have learned so much from her, especially during her excellent interviews with experts on topics she's exposing, but it's the interviews that call for pressing and pursuing that frequently disappoint. She's coddled Jane Sanders on her show before -- next time I hope she steps it up, especially after these latest stunts.
DeleteI think Maddow went easy on her because she could see how mediocre she is and maybe felt sorry for her.
DeleteWhy doesn't someone ask about his legislative record? He's passed three bills: two were to rename post offices in Vermont. That's his output for 36 years in Congress. Anyone who thinks this man could accomplish anything as president is delusional.
ReplyDeleteEvery day I turn on my computer and there's a new clunker tossed out by Sanders or one of his surrogates.
ReplyDeleteUgh. Awful person. She is doing her husband's campaign no favors.
ReplyDeleteClinton, as I wrote last week, is finishing the primary season in worse shape than when she started. Polling taken last June by NBC/Wall Street Journal found her with an overall net positive rating among all voters of +4 (44 percent positive to 40 percent negative) and a +77 score among Democrats (84 percent positive to 7 percent negative). The most recent April NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, however, had her overall approval ratings deep underwater at -24 (32 percent positive to 56 percent negative), and her ratings among Democrats dropped as well from +77 to +46. Among all Sanders voters, she’s at -1 (40 to 41 percent).
ReplyDeleteThis suggests that Clinton will have some work to do to get Sanders supporters on board the Clinton train this fall. How and when Sanders helps with this is also going to be critically important.
http://cookpolitical.com/story/9564
I think this will all change in July. If Benie nominates her at the convention (as she did for President Obama), the fences will start mending. As was reported in the NY Times, Clinton & Sanders voted together 93% of the time while in the Senate together. Some will start to come around now that the Bernie campaign is out of gas.
DeleteHis latest pandering to the voters of Indiana by using the Carrier plant closing is just disgusting. Where was he when they closed down the other factories in Indiana, oh yeah not running for president. So it's only on the radar when it happens while you are running for president. Asshole.
ReplyDeleteA liberal case for Donald Trump: The lesser of two evils is not at all clear in 2016
ReplyDeleteIs there one? A Trump presidency needn't be a nightmare for the left. On many issues, Clinton presidency might be
There are perhaps no three words more jarring to liberals than “President Donald Trump.” The GOP front-runner and presumptive nominee has undoubtedly made enemies with his nativist rhetoric and bellicose persona. That said, now that the race between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton is effectively over, with the former secretary of state essentially guaranteed the nomination, many liberals and progressives are preparing, once again, to vote for the lesser of two evils. The choice may not be as clear as some Democrats believe — especially if Democrats can take back the Senate and assure themselves of a check on a GOP House.
Once you’ve let that sink in, try this: There is a liberal case to be made for Donald Trump. The prospect of Trump defeating Clinton this November is not necessarily the apocalypse that some would lead you to believe. Here are some of the reasons why.
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/29/a_liberal_case_for_donald_trump_the_lesser_of_two_evils_is_not_at_all_clear_in_2016/
THIS IS NO LIBERAL CASE FOR DONALD TRUMP PERIOD. The odor of a Rovarian Rat roaming Salon these days makes me gag.
DeleteSays you SouthPaw.
DeleteHe is better than Hillary. Sad choices.
Sorry, most of us a boycotting Salon. Is that why people like you have to post their url everywhere? Salon is finished. Sanders is finished. The world will be cleaner place without all of you.
Delete2:23 - agree! #BlockSalon
DeleteI know a few of Bernie's delegates to the Nat'l convention that are changing their minds on who to support. I wonder just how many will go to the convention and support Hillary?
ReplyDeleteNo you don't know any Bernie delegates. Pledged delegates are called pledged delegates because they're committed to the candidate who won them. They can't just go to the convention and support whomever they please. They're committed to Bernie until Bernie releases them. Nice try though.
Delete@ anon 12:56 pm
DeleteActually delegates CAN go to the convention and support whomever they want to. Apparently you haven't been very involved in politics yet. BTW delegates change their votes all the time, especially if there is more than one round of voting, otherwise why would there every be more than one round of voting. Also, there are many other things voted on at the convention besides the presidential nominee and delegates can do do vote how they want. And no, they do not have to wait until their candidate releases them, though when that happens they all abandon their candidate and vote hoe their favorite candidate wants to.
But nice try though.
You are wrong 1:41. Democratic pledged delegates cannot go to the convention and vote for whomever they want. According to the Democratic Party convention rules, pledged delegates are bound to vote for the candidate to whom they were allocated on the first vote. Pledged delegates are released from their pledge/commitment only if no candidate has a majority after the first vote. Then they're free change their allegiance to a different candidate. However, they wouldn't decide that as an individual especially if there are more than 2 candidates. The horse trading of the contested/brokered convention proceeds within the state delegation, with other states, with superdelegates. By the way, and if you've been a Democrat for even a little while you really should know, there hasn't been a Democratic convention that didn't have a nominee after the first vote since 1952.
DeleteO/T, but I'm pasting in a link to some good pics about people protesting Trump today in Burlingame, CA. I'm just up here from there in SF and have heard a lot on the news. As much as i hated seeing the destruction at the Costa Mesa protest last night, I was glad to see a protest and am glad there's one today.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-gop-convention-htmlstory.html
Sec. Clinton does appear to have health and legal problems that we should not thumb our noses at. These could end up biting her before the election in November.
ReplyDeleteThe media will not down play these things if they flare up.
Sec. Clinton has no such issues. You're pathetic. Go back to that pool of urine you swim in and thumb your lying nose there.
DeleteShe does not have health or legal problems. The media, and you, can knock yourselves out having us believe otherwise, but it won't work.
DeleteHillary has no problems at all, but all these lies you and your candidate are trying to spread just make your candidate look worse than he already does.
DeleteHillary's doctor wrote she is hypothyroid and takes Armour Thyroid. She takes Coumadin blood thinner medication after her concussion and subsequent life-threatening blood clot in her head. Her doctor admitted Hillary has had 2 blood clots in her leg. In 2009 she fell and broke her elbow. Her concussion resulted from fainting and falling. She obviously weighs significantly more than she did even 3 years ago. She's not in excellent health. Her doctor admits she has some health issues and there's not reason to be in denial about them.
DeleteYou just love bringing up her health problems, don't you?
DeleteHypothyroidism is completely manageable with medication. I should know, since I have it. Since I started taking synthroid under a doctor's care (after being diagnosed more than ten years ago), It hasn't negatively affected my health in the slightest.
She wears a bulletproof vest, which makes her look like she's put on weight. You actually have no idea if she weighs any more than she did three years ago, let alone SIGNIFICANTLY more.
She fainted from dehydration due to a stomach virus, not exactly a rare occurance.
Neither is having a concussion for that matter.
She takes blood thinner as a precaution.
She's fine.
I have had hypothyroidism for 50 years, treated with medication.
DeleteI am not worried at all if Hillary has this problem.
Thank you, @6:22!
Delete"She wears a bulletproof vest, which makes her look like she's put on weight."
DeleteThis is nonsense. Hillary Clinton doesn't wear a bullet proof vest. She's just fat. Anyone can recognize she's gained a significant amount of weight over the last 5 years by simply looking at pictures of her in 2010 and today.
2010: http://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2010/04/20100409_hillary_250x375.jpg
2016: https://cdanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Bernie-Sanders-Hillary-Clinton-Debate-in-New-York-After-Tense-Negotiation.jpg
She's at least 30 pounds heavier between those two pics. There's no denying it. Why are so many so defensive about this observable fact?
Listing her admitted health problems to rebut comments like: "Her health is excellent." and "Hillary has no problems at all." is completely reasonable. How many of the candidates have a history of blood clots, concussion, fainting? None but Hillary Clinton. These aren't normal things and they do factor into decision-making of voters.
I see you've backed off the idea that hypothyroidism is a debilitating disease that makes a person ineligible for being POTUS.
DeleteI wish you would back off the idea that Hillary Clinton is at an unhealthy weight. That is between her and her doctor and I would hope most people would realize by now that it's possible to be overweight (which is a loaded word, by the way) and healthy.
She fainted and got a concussion. Saying she has a "history" of these things suggests they have been common occurrences in her life.
You seem bound and determined to undermine Clinton's candidacy by any means. Going after a woman for her weight, when you actually have no clue what it is and if it makes her unhealthy, is a low blow.
"She's just fat"
DeleteWow.
I haven't backed off anything. Nowhere did I say she has conditions that make her ineligible. The assertions were Clinton's health is excellent. It's not. She has chronic health issues. Anyone who insists otherwise is in denial of what her own doctor and Clinton herself has disclosed. Voters have a right to know them and take into consideration that Hillary Clinton has health issues that no other candidate has.
DeleteHer weight is an obvious problem. She gets winded climbing the 8 or 10 stairs onto a rally stage. People have a right to take that into consideration.
That's the real Jane Sanders, taking a break from pulling her elderly husband's strings, going on FOX to try to hurt a good solid Democrat.
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http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/29/gop-suppresses-votes-heritage-president-admits-its-helping-republicans.html
DeleteThat she showed her face and voiced ANYTHING about a Democrat on FOE NOOZE says to me she is a treasonous bitch. She should shut the fuck up.I support some of Bernie's positions, but mostly lean toward Hillary. As awful as it sounds, Bernie needs to muzzle his stupid wife. She needs to get the HELL of TeeVee.
ReplyDeleteDid anyone catch Jane Sanders on MSNBC this afternoon? Not sure who was interviewing her, but he held her feet to the fire on her tax returns for speech transcripts suggestion. Boy did she bob and weave, act cute, interrupt, deflect, challenge, but whoever that interviewer was kept at her until she finally said there were no conditions on the release of their past taxes, but she only just today dropped them off with an accountant to be gone through. Bull. Shit.
ReplyDeleteThat woman is a piece of work. She didn't want them to play the two clips a week apart showing her contradictory statements about taxes. And she did keep them from playing the clips, but at least they kept on her until she answered for her ridiculous demand. She is a snake. If her husband isn't politics as usual (sure...), she definitely is.
"but she only just today dropped them off with an accountant to be gone through. Bull. Shit."
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These are past taxes and she needs an accountant to go through them?
You can count on Baby Jane telling the media she can't produce them because her accountant is amending their taxes.
I thought she did the taxes?
DeleteI just ignore Jane, his wife. He's running for office, acts one way on stage, and sends Jane, his wife, to do his dirty work. But it's smart of him in a way, he hires a woman to do a man's job. What's he paying Jane, his wife for these exclusives? I guess Rachel Maddow couldn't pencil her in?
ReplyDeleteBaby Jane gave her past taxes over to an accountant to fix them?
ReplyDeleteBaby Jane how many $27 contributions from the young people did you pay your accountant to review your taxes?
You and Bernie reminds me of Sarah Palin, using other people's money for personal needs.
Baby Jane how many $27 contributions did you, Bernie, your 4 children and 4 grandchildren use to pay for your roundtrip chartered Boeing 767 to Rome? Hope you guys go to jail.
ReplyDeleteI'm not kidding,
ReplyDeleteToday on MSNBC, Chuck Todd said Bernie Sanders turned into a bitter old man
Git off my lawn or that ugly bitch will kick your ass
Even Sanders didn’t really think he could defeat Hillary Clinton. He talked more about creating a movement and starting a debate about issues, which is political code used by hopeless candidates. He also deplored money in politics and negative campaign advertising, stances which are hallmarks of futility.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.barrons.com/articles/has-hillary-clinton-taken-up-too-many-sanders-ideas-1461990740
So Bernie $ander$ deplores money in politics? Whose money did Bernie $ander$ used to charter a Boeing 767 to Rome for Baby Jane, his children and grandchildren?
Barrons.com
ReplyDeleteThe Vermonter, who has always run for office as an independent or Socialist, and never as a Democrat, apparently doesn’t understand that a party’s platform doesn’t bind a candidate, much less a president...
His first and most misleading campaign claim was that “99% of all new income generated in this country is going to the top 1%,” which was based on statistical sleight of hand. His most important offer to young people and their parents was free college tuition for all, a system like the underfunded and overcrowded universities of Europe.
Bernie $ander$ will tell you anything to get your $27 and to get elected