In surveys released last week by Fox News and CBS News, Clinton leads Republican front-runner Donald Trump by 7 and 10 points, respectively; she's statistically tied with Ted Cruz; and she trails John Kasich by 9 and 6 points. The same surveys show Sanders leading Trump by larger margins of 14 and 17 points; leading Cruz by 12 points in both surveys; and besting Kasich by 4 and 5 points, respectively.
And yet, prominent Republican operatives are chomping at the bit to face Sanders, a U.S. senator from Vermont and self-described democratic socialist in the general election, believing he'd be an easier opponent than the former first lady, U.S. senator and secretary of state.
"Republicans are being nice to Bernie Sanders because we like the thought of running against a socialist. But if he were to win the nomination the knives would come out for Bernie pretty quick," said Ryan Williams, a former spokesman for 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney's campaign. "There's no mystery what the attack on him would be. Bernie Sanders is literally a card carrying socialist who honeymooned in the Soviet Union. There'd be hundreds of millions of dollars in Republican ads showing hammers and sickles and Soviet Union flags in front of Bernie Sanders."
"Hillary Clinton is a much more centrist candidate in comparison," Williams said, and she would have a better chance of winning over moderate and undecided voters, despite numerous polls showing that many Americans, even in the Democratic Party, don't view her as honest and trustworthy. "Bernie's numbers are better than hers right now because she's been in the political arena for 30 years getting beat up," he said.
Doug Heye, a former spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said Clinton would be a tougher opponent due to her foreign policy fluency, "her toughness as a candidate," and the "Clinton attack machine" around her—groups like Correct The Record and Americans United For Change that are active on her behalf. He added that there's less room for the GOP to define Clinton than Sanders as "out of the mainstream."
"Her negatives are set in. There's no American out there who doesn't have a definite opinion on Hillary Clinton," Heye said. "That's just not the case with Bernie. The fact that some of his success has been looked on with bemusement, I think, speaks to that."
I have made this case before, and I imagine I may have to make it again.
The polls right now are not only inaccurate, I believe they are being purposefully skewed to give a false narrative.
Sanders' numbers are going up because he has not yet suffered the kind of withering attacks from the Right that damage a candidate so completely that even members of their own families second guess voting for them.
On the other hand Hillary has been taking that incoming fire for over thirty years now.
The very fact that she remains a viable presidential candidate tells you almost all you need to know about her electability.
But if that were not enough then the fact that the eighth investigation into Benghazi, going on now for over 700 days and at a cost of over 6 million dollars, continues to this day, should tell you that the Republicans fear Hillary Clinton more than Donald Trump fears somebody seeing the real size of his penis.
And do we even need to mention the "investigation" into her private e-mail server?
If the Republicans REALLY thought that they could beat Hillary in a fair contest, NONE of this would have been necessary. And that is also why Bernie Sanders is enjoying unsolicited help from members of the Republican party.
None of this should have to be explained, and yet I find myself explaining it constantly.
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/america-ferrera/why-hillary-clinton-thrills-the-hell-out-of-me_b_9721434.html
4:49pm America agrees>
Delete"I don’t think we need a revolution in this country; I think we need an evolution in this country. And evolution is slow and steady.
We'll be devolving back to President Bill Clinton.
DeleteThe Nineties are not at all what they look like in the mist of hindsight. And they'll be front and center in a fall campaign.
"I believe they are being purposefully skewed to give a false narrative."
DeleteI believe that also! And the George Clooney MTP was very good at explaining WHERE all the money is going in Hillary's fundraisers. Everyone forgets or doesn't mention the BILLIONS the Kocks are putting into ALL elections and especially the down ticket, their anti-climate change money to screech etc. I don't hear Bernie mentioning that. Now I have heard from Bernie people when told this they say, "why should Bernie fund raise for others" Its so republican sounding and its the under 45 people saying this.
I am so sick of hearing Bernie. I watched the end of the debate and Hillary continued to try to bring everyone together and Bernie sounded and looked like a Old Angry White guy.
I think he has lost control of his campaign to RW'rs and his followers are too arrogant or inexperienced to realize this.
That would be true if Bill Clinton were running but he's not. Hillary Clinton is running. She's her own self, has her own policies.
DeleteIn what ways will we be devolving back to the nineties? Is this just a gut feeling of yours or do you have some specifics you can share?
DeleteI'll take the nineties over 2000-2008 any day. Bill Clinton years were a breath of fresh air after Reagan and Bush 41.
DeleteThank you Gryphen.
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My new slogan "EVOLUTION not REVOLUTION" TIRED OF BERNIE'S bullsh$t!
ReplyDeleteHillary's not evolution -- she wants to give us Bill's third term. Do you really want Bill Clinton within ten yards of the White House? Do you think he won't insist on sitting in on Cabinet meetings and having a West Wing office? Do you think he'll obey his wife, the President? Dream on.
DeleteI'm willing to give it a try, 6:41.
DeleteDo you think Jane Sanders won't insist on sitting in on Cabinet meetings and having a West Wing office? Yea, we all want revolution? Dream on yourself.
No, Jane Sanders does not have the chutzpah to push around her spouse.
DeleteBill Clinton's been doing it for 40 years and won't stop if she's President. He'll take it all for himself.
No, Jane will try and steal money from any account she can get her hands on. But hopefully the hag spends it on some makeup.
DeleteWow, 8:10. You are such a sexist.
DeleteHmm, a resignation from someone who intro'd the Bern last week. Dr. Paul Song gone from Courage Campaign board after "Democratic whore" comment - http://couragecampaign.org/press-releases/dr-paul-song-resigns-chair-courage-campaign-board
ReplyDeleteOnce again the Republicans have no clue what the difference is between a communist and a socialist, both labels they have also assigned to President Obama.
ReplyDeleteWhat I find most interesting is they never use the term Fascist. I'm sure some of it is because, like the other two terms, they don't understand what a fascist is, but I think more so that they do know and don't want the public to see how fascist the Republican party has become or how fascist their front runner, Dullard Drumpf, is. The Nazis were Fascists and Dullard Drumpf exhibits more than one characteristic of the fascists of the third reich.
Dullard doesn't want to be president. He wants to be Chancellor of Amerika.
Wouldn't that be nice if enough Democratic surrogates would nickname Drumpf the Fascist? Pass it on.
DeleteGood post, 4:57.
Of course they've used the term fascist and even dictator. Often they combine fascist and dictator with socialist and communist - as in socialist dictator! What a bunch of idiots they are.
DeleteAnd Hillary, if she had been invited, would have taken what, her limo driven by Secret Service?
ReplyDeleteI think not!
Go Bernie!
ReplyDeleteBernie can at least highlight all the issues that centrist Hillary would prefer to ignore. On Foreign Policy Hillary is starting to sound like a nro-con with her obsession with the Middle East.
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DeleteWhat's a nro-con?
DeleteJust got on the Bernie bandwagon, huh. Many of us were on that same bandwagon early on and have already left it because we realised the candidate could not deliver. That's why we have matured to supporting Hillary. You really need to catch up.
Delete7:18 - I'm with you. I also left the Bernie bandwagon and am now supporting Hillary.
DeleteSo instead of trying to explain to your readers exactly what Hillary stands for (since nobody seems to fucking know all we hear is how fucking electable she is) you just put another Bernie bashing article. Why don't you ever post anything about what Billary stands for? All we EVER hear is blah blah blah "electable" blah blah blah. She might be for this she might be for that, she isn't definite on anything. At least with Bernie people have a clue what he stands for, with Billary not so much and actually not at all.
ReplyDeleteI'm assuming the reason you don't take this approach is because YOU don't have a clue what she stands for either, you just have some sort of unhealthy crush on her which you wish the rest of us would have. It doesn't work that way. Give us a REASON to like Hillary? Could ya do that just once????
Anon 5:15. You don't need a reason to like Hillary, you probably never will no matter her positions. But if you want a reason to VOTE for Hillary in Nov, I'll give you 3 reasons - Trump, Cruz, GOP.
DeleteThere are plenty of reasons to like Hillary Clinton, but none of us think she's perfect.
DeleteHow about you listen to some reasons NOT to like Bernie Sanders?
I remember when Hillary Clinton was First Lady and she led the fight for universal health care. She was a champion for getting healthcare services to children. She went to China and gave a speech on human rights. She was attacked for being improper and getting involved in policy when she should have been baking cookies and attending to White House dinner guest lists. I've watched her years of fighting for women's equality here and around the globe. I've seen her as the Senator of New York, a 2008 candidate for the Democratic Party presidential nomination, and as Secretary of State.
DeleteBut I must be clueless if I'm supporting her. How could I possibly know anything about what she stands for.
Bernie Sanders is repeatedly arguing that the polls say he's electable. Gryphen addressed the claim in this blog post. But it's not the topic you want addressed.
By the way, Gryphen is in good company. The leading political scientists have all pointed out that general election polls for Sanders are meaningless. Sanders and his campaign team know this is true but ignore the logic to misinform voters that the polls prove he would beat the GOP.
Here's one example. You can save time by starting the video at 2:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xghaMpCsyW4
Anyway, good job, I'll vote for Sanders since your arguments are so logical and so convincing.
5:54 was your last sentence meant as snark? I'm sorry I have to ask because quite honestly I can't tell anymore from honest feelings versus facetiousness. Thank you.
DeleteI'm not 5:54 but yes, obvious snark at the end.
DeleteYea, I'll vote for Sanders if he earns the nomination.
DeleteThe reason you have to keep explaining this is because Sanders, his surrogates, and his supporters are using these polls numbers as their #1 argument for asking for votes.
ReplyDeleteWhat's his problem? He's starting to get on my nerves. He's trying to get a Republican elected. Thanks Bernie! I'm definitely not feeling the Berne right now.
ReplyDeleteExactly! I'm sick of his voice and his lack of detail behind how he plans to accomplish all of his great ideas. Nothing he proposes will move forward without a Democratic majority in the Senate and a gain in Democratic seats in the House.
DeleteOK! We get it, Shillary.
ReplyDeleteGo to www.democraticwhores.com
DeleteGrow up.
DeleteHillary is a much better choice than Senile Sanders.
DeleteHere's one, she's a card-carrying Democrat. Hillary supports a woman's right to choose, and reproductive rights for women. Hillary supports Planned Parenthood and all the good that PP does. She also support the SCHIP program, healthcare for children.
ReplyDeleteAnd gun control.
DeleteIn addition, to those who think she will need Bill to help, I think many of Bill's accomplishments while in the White House happened because of Hillary. He has charisma while she has the brains.
DeleteHillary is further Left than Bill and always has been.
DeleteI can hardly wait to see both Clintons back in the White House. How neat - two Presidents Clinton!
DeleteThey are a great team - as are the Obamas and the Bidens!
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ReplyDeletehttp://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/04/18/3768905/the-most-exciting-attack-on-partisan-gerrymandering-in-over-a-decade/
At damned near 59, I have never in my lifetime seen such idiocy/consternation trying to replace a black man.
ReplyDeleteI will miss you, President Obama and your family representing me.
You know, I realize they'd attack Bernie on his Socialism, but I think they don't realize the demographics have tipped against them. It's been a long time since the Cold War and the USSR and all. I suspect the majority have grown up since the end of the Cold War or were young adults at the time and recognize how the American public was played. I just don't think people would care much about the issue. We all know that we are way down the list on health care, work benefits, etc. Most of us are aware of how we've been scammed. I just don't think it would be the downcheck that republicans think it would be.
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DeleteIn the beginning, Occupy Wall Street had net favorability. And then it went downhill. This is what will likely happen to Bernie Sanders.
Deletehttp://www.businessinsider.com/more-americans-oppose-occupy-wall-street-than-support-it-2011-11
You must remember that our Government had bad intentions for the Occupy people The media seemed negative towards their actions.
DeleteMy problem with the Bernie Brats is that they do not understand history, even that of the last half of the Twentieth Century. If they did, they would be much more concerned about the erosion of a woman's right to choose that is underway in many states. What is needed is a full Democratic victory in order to protect Roe v. Wade. Anyone, like myself, who lived through the times before that SCOTUS decision can relate at least one horror story of a botched abortion or woman forced into a bad marriage or an adoption because of an unwanted pregnancy. Sorry, the millennials have no idea how close we are to going back to those repressive times not that long ago. I do not want to see us go back there and, if the GOP continues to hold power in Congress and in the States, we will go there. A strong, Democrat heading the ticket will also help the down ticket candidates get elected. Bernie cannot do that. He is not a loyal Democrat; he holds a different philosophy and he has captured the imagination of some young people looking for a cause. While he rails about Wall Street, the GOP is returning the country back to the days of racism, sexism, and homophobia.
ReplyDeleteExactly. And there are so many polls that they are meaningless. If Bernie ends up with the nomination, he isn't doing anything to help the Democratic ticket to retake control of the Senate and some House seats. Hillary has been helping other Democrats build their campaign funds at the same time she is campaigning for President.
DeletePoor Gryphen laments that he has to keep repeating shit, and so do I. I resent the childish names that Hillary supporters keep throwing at Sanders supporters. It's...childish. Not to mention wrong. I keep reading that Bernie's supporters are all newborns, and I keep admitting that I'm way over 60, and no idiot. Again, I question if he's bringing in over $40 million a month from kids. I don't think so. Bernie Brats. How clever.
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DeleteI resent the misogynistic statements that Bernie Bros are on only throwing at Hillary but at all women. FU_K Bernie, his history and recent statements about women make sure I will never vote for him.
I'm 66 and send him money every month. So do my two children, in their 20s. Don't discount us.
DeleteAnonymous8:07 PM,
DeleteOh stop whining and feeling petulant. Nobody is discounting you.
So, 7:08 PM, the only thing you got out of my statement was that I called Bernie supporters "Brats." Too bad you didn't parse the rest of the statement because it is imperative that Democrats be elected at all levels of government - and not so-called "Blue Dog Dems" but real progressive Dems. Would you have understood what I wrote if I had called them "Bernie Supporters"?
Delete"I resent the childish names that Hillary supporters keep throwing at Sanders supporters" you mean like Sanders supporters never referring to Hillary by her actual name? It's always Billary, Shillary, and much worse.
DeleteWhile I respect Bernie Sanders’ policies and general ideology, I am personally exhausted by his demeanor, his wagging finger, and his ridiculous claims.
ReplyDeleteNobody likes to see our heroes disappoint us, yet since he has been on the offense (for several months now), it has become even more apparent to me that Hillary is the better choice for the Presidency. He doesn’t listen well, he shouts, he is stubborn, arrogant and self-righteous, and thus his campaign behaves.
While Hillary has had to learn how to keep her sarcasm at bay for years, in the last debate Sanders displayed his in full regalia to the delight of his followers and the press. Call it what you will, but I call this good old plain misogyny; it is still so threatening to people, not just to men, to have a woman be the smartest person in the room.
In my opinion she is better prepared, more deserving of the Presidency and yes, her heart is in the right place. All of this “untrustworthy” nonsense has been generated by Republicans for decades in an effort to suppress one of the most progressive, compassionate and resilient politicians of our time, and it is a shame to see the Sanders campaign and its followers falling for it.
Hillary has my vote.
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DeleteHillary Clinton has two decades of direct experience dealing with the type of character assassination and dirty politics practiced by the GOP/Fox News Party, and has the temperament and political skill to fend off such attacks gracefully. Bernie Sanders is, perhaps, revealing himself to be a little thin-skinned in this regard, reacting to modest political push back by calling foul and clumsily trying to one-up his opponent, rather than sticking to the issues. He's not quite the Donald Trump of the left, but it still is not the direction we should be heading.
ReplyDeleteHillary 2016
He can only stick to his own issues and he has only two of those- break up the banks and income equality- and acts like he thought them up himself.
DeleteBand pun to say he's two-dimensional?
I'm sure the Clinton group is already prepared to go up against Trump should he be the nominee. She's not stupid and has had more character assassination in her lifetime than Donald Trump ever thought of receiving!
DeleteShe'll be fine and has my vote!
The Benghazi investigations will continue even is she is elected, in fact, they'll escalate, as will the email investigations. Sure, she can get elected, but will she be as hogtied as was Obama? Even more.
ReplyDeleteNope. Those yokels could tolerate a woman easier than a black man. They all had mothers.
DeleteOr her husband in his last two years? And it's likely her husband's "foundation" will yield more scandals to tar her.
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ReplyDeleteCarbon footprint is not a cornerstone of her platform. He could have flown coach if he really had to curry the catholic vote by kissing the ass of a pedophile apologist organization. What a hypocrite.
Lawrence O'Donnell had a reporter who attended the Bernie Sanders last speech of the night in New York City and he said that Bernie Sanders was great especially on his stand on the public housing issue in NYC. Lawrence was so happy that Bernie was taking up this issue! He mentioned that both of the Democratic candidates had visited New York public housing. There was video of Bernie visiting public housing in New York. Ritchie Torres, has endorsed Senator Sanders because Senator Sanders visited twice in the last two days. LOD so happy!
ReplyDeleteLawrence O'Donnell was the one that ran a segment on public housing in NYC! At that time neither candidate had visited public housing.
DeleteIt was AFTER O'Donnell's show aired that both Hillary and Bernie visited the public housing site!
That was why O'Donnell was happy! He encourage both candidates and it worked!
I can respect the youthful idealism of Bernie supporters. And if it comes down to Bernie vs the last clown standing from the clown car, I will vote for Bernie without hesitation. But I don't believe for a second that the tens of millions of $$$ that have been pouring into his campaign are all from average Joes and Janes. I smell a fat Rovesque rat behind it, and agree 100% with G, the dark forces of GOP evil know darned well who the weaker opponent would be in November.
ReplyDeleteOver $10 million came from the DC area in equal small amounts one night. A newspaper calculated it equal to almost half the entire population of DC- man, woman and child.
DeleteAnd he has so many demands from the FEC to return his illegal and anonymous and foreign donations. Funny how all the other campaigns can keep their money clean.
I wonder how deeply Jane Sanders's fingers are entwined in the Sanders campaign millions. She sure didn't hesitate to spend a lazy quarter mil on her Palinesque pretend trip to see the pope ..
I disagree that the most devastating attack on Sanders by the GOP attack machine will be the "socialist" label.I think the most devastating attacks will be
ReplyDeletea) the fact that he did have a steady paycheck until he was forty. They will label him a "taker" and a "moocher"
b) That after more than 20 years in the senate at the age of 65 he has so little net worth. They will say he is terrible at managing his own money, why would we trust him with the economy.
The optics of those two messages will annihilate him.
I think they will bring up the fact he was a deadbeat Dad and refused to support his own child.
DeleteIf he has no net worth then why is wife/tax accountant hiding his returns so assiduously? One still-not-complete return is what Mitt Romney offered but we all knew what he was hiding.
DeleteWhat truths is Bernie Sanders hiding about his financial affairs? You can be sure it ain't poverty he's hiding.
Ridiculous. Both of these.
DeleteLook at the published stock holdings of Members of Congress and then how they vote. I'd rather have a poor but honest President.
He will be hit hard on two things:
Delete1. socialism
2. raising taxes
The end.
Sanders also has stock holdings.
DeleteAnonymous8:04 PM,
DeleteSanders is not poor. So where is his money?
I am sixty and I support Bernie. I have donated four times to his campaign, something I have never done for any candidate before!
ReplyDeleteBernie 2016
Don't go down that "purposefully skewed" polls road. That's RWNJ territory.
ReplyDeleteI support Bernie Sanders. I am an adult and can think for myself, thank you very much. And the Hillary Clinton supporters can think for themselves, too. The reason why the Republicans control both houses and many of the governorships is because of the stupid infighting within the Democratic Party. These are the Primaries. Let the process play out whether it is Bernie or Hillary and stop insulting each other's intelligence!!
ReplyDeleteExactly. I am an adult near 60 and have been politically active since 18. I support Sanders and also can think for myself. Some comments on this thread remind me of high school.
DeleteI'm 73 and there is no way in Hell that Bernie Sanders will receive my vote! Hillary Clinton will due to being far superior to Bernie in every way to BE POTUS!
DeleteHe's gotten to be obnoxious! Rest assured I have paid attention to him and listened to him! Enjoyed him in the beginning of his run and liked him - but, no more!
Again, thank you for posting this. It needs to be said, over and over again. Unfortunately.
ReplyDeleteI believe Senator Sanders has important things to say, and in the beginning, I was glad he was saying them. But it seems, almost, that his head has gotten too big for this race. I don't think it's rocket science to understand that the Republicans would have a field day with a Socialist-in-Democrat's-clothing.
I would think, that at this point, it would be wiser of Bernie to wise up and realize that sometimes sacrifice for the greater good is more important than fame and glory for oneself.
I realize I may be opening myself up to getting attacked as I'm not a "BernieBro," but I'm feeling more and more that I need to speak up regarding my support for Hillary.
Also, too, (sorry, can't help myself) in response to some comment up above stating that Hillary would simply be a 3rd term of Bill Clinton, I would say that is so disingenuous and naive. And a pathetic, paltry excuse not to vote for Hillary. She is her own woman. Has been for a VERY long time. I would venture to say that Hillary is the one who wears the pants in that relationship. He owes her BIG TIME. Big time.
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DeleteOT, but this clip is funny. Trump couldn't be bothered to go to Ground Zero until about a week ago, and it's hard for him to even keep the date of the attacks straight. He was probably craving some junk food mid-rally.
ReplyDeletehttp://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/276756-trump-mistakenly-refers-to-9-11-as-7-11
He needs pizza and his surrogate.
DeleteIsn't SARAHPAC clever?
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Sarah thinks she was so incredibly busy with important work. Being a mayor is important, but just as she sees herself as being as much of a scientist as Bill Nye, she sees herself as being just like the US Secretary of State, and even beyond.
DeleteWTF -NOTHING FUNNY, NOTHING.."7-11" WTF??
DeleteIf Bernie gets it, he really will,'cause the rethuglikans are going to hang a hammer and sickle logo around his goddamned neck so fast it'll make your head spin. Then you can say Hello to Pres. Trump or Pres. Cruz.
ReplyDeleteThe company that designed hilllarys website designed the one slandering a woman who outwardly accuses bill of huge amounts of sexual misconduct and Hillary of viscious bullying and sabotage. She is in the race because there is not a bigger bully. Bernie is in because the liberal state ls haven't voted yet and he took quite a bit from moderate ones. And he's a nice guy with a slight anger problem. Though don't all politicos have an anger problem? Obama even does.
ReplyDelete8:44 - be sure to visit democraticwhores.com.You'll love it!
DeleteWhat the hell are you talking about?
Delete"And he's a nice guy with a slight anger problem."
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All righty then.
Sorry, but I think Bernie Sanders would be a horrid POTUS! He's nasty, demeans women, points his fingers too much and is angry!
DeleteBut, love the fact he was once a hippie and probably smoked lots of dope (his wife too!). He needs to be smoking it again to calm him down!
I've never heard a candidate talk down to a woman like Bernie Sanders. I can't see how any woman can vote for a dude that wags his finger and smears her without evidence. Maybe his women supporters are used to being talked down to and diminished. He even shoved his own wife out of the way.
ReplyDeleteI think the man is despicable.
I think Mrs Sanders would much rather it were she on the dais, just between you and me.
DeleteGryphen, I'm so proud of these two, they're two of the smartest women ever created.
ReplyDeleteOur former Prime Minister of Australia, Julia Gillard, endorses Hillary Clinton.
Brainpower and guts enough for ten men!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcLW33ZAmA
I love both Bernie and Hillary, but the person I love most is Al Gore. I remember the first time I heard him speak (and stand up for Choice so unequivocally) when he came to my college back in 1988. I had never heard of him before that day. After, I followed closely and was so happy to vote for him in the primary. Four years later when Clinton tapped him as his running mate, I was thrilled. He's doing important work out of the limelight and I will always stand in great admiration of this person.
ReplyDeleteYoung voters are America's future. They have made their choice clear. They lean left. Things that make sense. Fairness and Equal. Balance. Progress. Hope. Bright future. less war. Everyone over 40 should listen to the words of younger voters. Lean forward and look forward to the future. It is full of Life, Hope and Change.
ReplyDeleteI'm over 40 and I do listen to their words. Are you really saying that people voting for Clinton don't value all of those things? This has nothing to do with our end goals and everything to do with our plans to get there.
DeleteMaybe people under 40 should listen to the wisdom of their elders. Those of us who have been fighting for civil and reproductive rights for years and years aren't part of the "status quo" or the "establishment" because we prefer Clinton to Sanders. We don't differ in our end goal, just the methods to get there.
DeleteThe right is transparent. We can see right through that shallow narrow window. The face of the party, the attitude, the agenda, the tactics, the spin, their twisted pocket constitution. The oath they signed to obstruct America. Did we forget?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/04/18/once-ahead-60-points-clinton-national-lead-over-sanders-has-dwindled-zero
ReplyDeletehttp://www.vice.com/read/why-upstate-new-yorkers-hate-hillary-clinton
http://mutualradionews.com/disgraced-clinton-donor-got-13m-in-state-dept-grants-under-hillary/
AND THIS:
http://www.ydr.com/story/opinion/readers/2016/04/18/sanders-can-win-clinton-cant-letters/83186154/
That Clinton has survived thirty years of attacks didn't mean anything in the last primary she lost. I'm not a big fan, but I'll vote for her if she becomes the nominee. I like Sanders because he's arguing for a new way of doing business. The free stuff label is bullshit. No one, not even he, believes healthcare and college will be free. He's talking about priorities. Do we need the most bloated, outrageously large military in the world, or can we have a meaner, leaner, and more efficient military? If you truly believe in the promise of America, then you should believe same old same old is not a given. With Clinton, I keep being asked to settle, to be practical. The rich and powerful love that message. Clinton is is smart, damn smart, but she isn't inspiring like Elizabeth Warren or Sanders. Plenty of comments have mentioned Sanders wagging his finger as an indicator of attitude and a reason not to vote for him. I don't like Clinton's pants suits. Her wardrobe could be an indicator of attitude, but I don't care, and it certainly won't be a voting issue for me. After decades of business as usual, I am ready for a new paradigm.
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ReplyDeleteThere are no moral victories for Bernie Sanders at this point: Why he needs to win massively in New York
... At a rally over the weekend in New York’s Prospect Park, for instance, Sanders drew more than 28,000 people, easily the largest of his campaign. Judging by the tone of his speech, Sanders knows how important tomorrow’s primary is. The last Democratic debate was the testiest by any measure, a sign of growing tensions on both sides, but the Vermont senator was noticeably harsh yesterday.
“Now, if you give a speech for $225,000 per speech,” Sanders told the crowd, “it must be a pretty damn good speech, must be a brilliant and insightful speech analyzing all of the world’s problems, must be a speech written in Shakespearean prose. And that is why I believe Secretary Clinton should share that speech with all of us.”
It’s hard to miss the sarcasm there, but the content is consistent with everything Sanders has said thus far. If there’s a difference, it’s tonal and stylistic. The Sanders campaign understands that time is running out, so they’ve decided to double down on their core message, hoping to ride the wave of momentum they’ve created in the last several weeks.
But let’s be clear: there are no “moral victories” for Sanders at this point. Limiting Clinton’s margin of victory to single digits in New York won’t alter the dynamics of the race. Her lead – in both pledged delegates and superdeleages – is too great. Even a close victory won’t suffice for Sanders. Given Clinton’s institutional support, winning narrowly will yield few, if any, delegates.
Sanders has to win in New York, in other words, and he has to win big. But that will be difficult. Sanders is quite good at attracting people to rallies, but he has to get them to the voting booth as well – otherwise none of it matters. The big question for Sanders is, will the young people and white liberals chanting at his rallies show up when he needs them to? ...
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ReplyDeleteIs that really what you wanted him to do with your $20 donation?
Bernie is looking and sounding like a lunatic! He's doing everything and anything he can to discredit and/or disgrace Hillary Clinton and it's getting old.
ReplyDeleteHillary Clinton has my vote!! She is experienced, smart, remains calm and knows how to get things done!