Sunday, April 17, 2016

Jane Fonda warns of violence if Hillary Clinton is elected President.

Courtesy of the Daily Mail:  

The actress and social activist warned that the former Secretary of State would face backlash from the nation's 'toxic masculinity' if she were to become the first female President of the United States. 

'One of the things we have to do is help men understand why they are so threatened, and change the way we view masculinity. We have a toxic masculinity and that's what needs to be addressed.' 

'I think that deep down, people feel [Clinton] can hit the ground running, even if she may not be the perfect candidate for a lot of people,' she said. 'She's had the experience. The world right now is so complicated — she has the background to deal with all the complications.' 

Of course Jane Fonda is another person that the conservatives love to hate (Remember Hanoi Jane?) but she is probably not wrong here.

I personally think that if Trump does not win the GOP nomination there will be violence no matter who wins the Democratic nomination. But I agree that Hillary will attract even more hatred than the old Democratic Socialist Jew will.

That fact is already on full display among the Trump supporters.
But does that mean we DON'T elect Hillary Clinton?

Hell no, it means if she is our candidate that we work even harder to get her elected.

After all did the fact that making Barack Obama our President really, really pissed off the racists stop us from voting for him?

75 comments:

  1. Anonymous2:10 PM

    So is that the fallback, anyone that didn't vote for Obama is a racist?

    So now anyone who doesn't vote Hillary is a misogynist?

    Still pretending to not be the dividing party? Even though everything is racial or gender with you?

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    1. Anonymous2:38 PM

      Congratulations for living in a world that is free from sexism and racism.

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    2. Thinking with any sort of depth is hard for you, isn't it.

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    3. Anonymous2:55 PM

      Um...no. Everything is equality and equality is everything. And if that divides the party, then the wrong fucking people are in charge.

      Oh, and fuck Mitch McConnell.
      GeorgiaPeach

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    4. Why not 2:10? It works for that grifter granny whenever someone disagreed with her - what was it she said?
      Oh yea - we're the HATERS! So, I guess we learned from the grifter - the queen of victimhood. Checkmate!

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    5. This site has become polarized with comments like these. Is it possible, now, to take a step back and let some light and air into these discussions? Or are discussions not welcome anymore? Were they ever?

      It is becoming obvious that once we have chosen "our" candidate, no offerings (of any kind) that shed light on our "chosen one" may be tolerated or even have the right to be presented here?

      It is Psych 101 -- once a person chooses, his/her candidate is now inerrant and to change one's mind is as hard to do as turning in a con man who has swindled you: it makes you look a fool to have trusted him in the first place.







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    6. Anonymous3:46 PM

      No one has chosen "our" candidate, Barbara, and Gryph has always allowed all viewpoints for us to discuss on our own.

      Many right wing sites will ban you instantly if you have a different opinion.

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    7. Anonymous4:28 PM

      Oh Barbara, there are a lot of us here that are Republicans. We'll not vote for Bernie or Hillary.

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    8. Anonymous5:07 PM

      Meghan Phillips - do you ever have anything positive to say?

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    9. 5:07Pm, are you my mother? Do you do anything besides keep track of my posts? I can positively tell you you need to get a new hobby. Cheers!

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    10. Anonymous5:59 PM

      There is only one Democrat running so how is supporting Hillary dividing the party?

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    11. Anonymous7:04 PM

      The Berners cannot face the truth. Tuesday, it will be more clear.

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  2. Anonymous2:12 PM

    I think part of what threatens men so much at the thought of Hillary's presidency is that she can, in fact, handle anything and everything they throw at her. People also need to get over this idea of a "perfect candidate ".

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    1. Anonymous2:20 PM

      I hope the Democratic Party will choose the presidential nominee who can best represent and work toward achieving the Democratic Party platform.

      I'm voting for the platform. I hope that means Hillary.

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    2. Anonymous2:36 PM

      I agree with you, Anon at 2:20 pm.
      Beaglemom

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    3. Anonymous6:00 PM

      @ anon 2:20pm
      Unfortunately only one candidate is loyal to the Democratic platform, the other one jumped for free $$$$$$.

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  3. Conservatives probably felt more threatened by big, brainy, powerful, black male Obama than they will be by petite, brainy, powerful, white female Clinton.

    There was no overt violence when Obama was elected. Weak men and resentful women will feel threatened, but they'll have to get over it.

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    1. Yes. But while it wouldn't occur to Bubba that the little woman would vote for a black man, he has enough doubts that she might vote for a woman over Trump.

      I think Jane is right. But we'll never see the violence. It will take place privately, behind closed doors as it always has. We'll just see the black eyes and split lips the next day when the little wifey goes to get the groceries and tells everyone how she just slipped and fell.

      I expect there will be a rise in spiral fractures and broken ribs in emergency rooms right around the elections too.

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  4. Anonymous2:37 PM

    Hillary Clinton has had my vote!

    We (the majority Americans!) just have to constantly talk about her experience and how well she'll be able to handle things for our country as POTUS! Positive thoughts and positive things!

    The negative crap - as to the media - is really getting old. Remember that President Obama won TWICE in spite of the rhetoric from the Republicans. It can be done again with electing the first woman POTUS!

    The vote is what matters!

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  5. Anonymous2:44 PM

    I call foul.

    Fonda spoke of 'backlash'. The mischaracterization of that as Fonda 'warned of violence' appears to be anti-Clinton fear-mongering that originated in an article from The Blaze, Glenn Beck's news organization.

    Please don't play along with this kind of nonsense.

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    1. Anonymous6:30 PM

      That's how I read it also 2:44. I'm not sure what all the Jane Fonda backlash is about, like her or hate her, she is probably right. There are many on the right will not take a woman president well at all.

      Mildred

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  6. 66gardeners2:48 PM

    OT - Here's a stand-your-ground gun story you will find hard to believe. This happened Friday in Prince George's County, Maryland. There are a lot of holes in the to say the least.

    A man shot multiple people - including a Prince George's County firefighter who died from his injuries - during a welfare check. Welfare checks are something firefighters do routinely when they are concerned about someone's safety. A second Maryland volunteer firefighter struck four times was critically wounded.

    No word on the motive, and the shooter has been released from police custody. Police have not released his name, but a county fire spokesman said it may have been a tragic mistake - the man possibly thought that the rescuers were intruders seeking to break into his house.

    (No charges have been filed (and probably won't be). This story is flying below-the-radar even in the local news, much less national news.)

    The suspected shooter and the 911 caller are brothers. The shooter's brother who called 911 had told authorities his brother had been having trouble with his blood sugar and recently blacked out, and he was concerned because his brother wasn't answering his phone or the door.

    http://ecommerce-journal.com/2016/04/pg-county-firefighter-killed-another-seriously-injured-in/

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  7. Anonymous2:51 PM

    Hillary is part of everything that is bad with this country. She's THE most dishonest person. Her husbands foundation is shady at best and a slush fund.

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    1. Anonymous3:00 PM

      You need to do some research sweetie, they are ALL like that.

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    2. There are many who agree & have researched her foundation in depth, but are no longer posting here. I will vote for her, but only to keep out Trump or Cruz.

      It's the down-line elections that are just as crucial or nothing progressive will be able to be done (even the nibbling around the edges by Clinton, or Sanders' crucial Wall St. changes that must be done to avoid an even bloodier revolution down the line).

      Even the 1% know this and are many of them are backing Sanders.



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    3. Anonymous3:52 PM

      Proof?

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    4. Anonymous4:26 PM

      Meh, I'm a Republican but I won't vote for Cruz, but I will vote for Trump or Kasich.

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    5. Anonymous6:02 PM

      Hmmm, no proof just flapping of your jaws.

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    6. Anonymous6:48 PM

      Barbara, do YOU think Clinton is THE most dishonest person and that she's everything that's bad with this country? Your comment suggests that you do.

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    7. Anonymous7:10 PM

      3:34 - I'm glad those who have "researched her" who are no longer posting her have found greener blogging pastures. Most of them are libertarians & do not care a whit about the Democratic Party or a realistic path for change.. Let them talk to the Naderites and Ron Paul. Some of us are working to protect the Supreme Court, the Senate, the House, and state offices. Most libertarians cannot be bothered with that.

      By the way, I have not noticed any decrease in comment totals, either.

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    8. Anonymous7:30 PM

      So tired of your stupid intellectually lazy talking point. No matter how many times it's been disproven you just keep posting the same shut.

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    9. Anonymous7:54 PM

      Shady Jane - 2011 article details hostile work environment - http://vtdigger.org/2011/09/27/jane-sanders-resigns-presidency-of-burlington-college-reaches-settlement/

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    10. Reply to 3:52 -- Proof.

      http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/14/new-york-primary-bernie-sanders-wall-street

      Even Asher Edelman, one of the real-life templates for Gordon “greed is good” Gekko of the 1987 movie Wall Street, has joined the club, writing in the Guardian that only Sanders is “committed to honest solutions” to the crisis of income inequality.

      "The fact that Frank – a prominent New York hedge fund manager – is only willing to talk to the Guardian anonymously itself tells a story. It’s not that he’s ashamed about his backing for Bernie – quite the contrary: he has openly canvassed for Sanders in Iowa and frequently goes out leafleting for him in New York City.

      "Rather, Frank’s desire to keep his name out of the news was a reflection, he said, of the stultifying consensus within the New York financial world that Sanders’ proposals to rein in Wall Street and prevent another Great Recession are dangerous and must be rebuffed.

      "He looks at his fellow hedge fund folk, and thinks to himself that “they have made so much money, yet all they want to do is preserve what they’ve got. It’s got so out of whack that virtually nobody is willing to think about the basic unfairness of income inequality or how to improve the economy.”

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  8. Anonymous3:05 PM

    Undoubtedly Jane Fonda is one who can truly understand the concept of "toxic masculinity" and what Hillary Clinton is facing, given the years of ugly tirades towards her by those who could never forgive her for her past actions. That said, it is well past time to dismantle the "good ole boy" system and those who would seek to threaten and intimidate--whether it be directed at a specific race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, and most certainly (and belatedly), gender. I respect and will absolutely support Sanders if he should prevail, but while I do not agree with all of HRC's positions and policies, in my heart, I do still think it is her time and she has earned it. Fortunately, I believe there are enough enlightened men to help ensure that the Neanderthals among us are contained within the law.

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    1. Anonymous3:31 PM

      If elected, she'll face the same opposition in Congress that President Obama has the past 7+ years.

      "Bad enough we had to put up with a black man, but a WOMAN?"

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    2. Anonymous4:25 PM

      PLUS they have her EMAILS and BENGHAZI that they will hold over her head and obstruct her at every turn. That's why I'm for Bernie as he might actually find friends that work with him in Congress and Hillary will only find opponents because they have already issues with her.

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    3. Anonymous6:48 PM

      How are they going to hold it over her head? It's all bullshit.

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    4. Anonymous6:49 PM

      Nobody is going to work with Sanders. You really don't understand that Clinton has more friends on both side of the aisle than Sanders every had.

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    5. Anonymous4:59 AM

      It's astounding, 6:49, that this person has no idea whatsoever of Clinton's and Sanders's respective records in the senate and the partnerships they've had and haven't had with others in congress. I am ridiculously tired of hearing from Sanders supporters who paid no attention to the political process until 5 minutes ago, but never stop opining about subjects they know less than nothing about. Many are so ignorant of the topic that they don't know how ignorant they are -- they don't even know that much.

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  9. Anonymous3:13 PM

    I, for one, am sick and tired of the political system in this country and rhetoric such as this.

    "There will be violence if MY candidate isn't nominated." Reminds me of young children threatening to hold their breath unless they get their way.

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    1. Anonymous3:57 PM

      Jane Fonda didn't say there would be violence.

      Go to the Daily Mail article and then follow their link to The Blaze. The Blaze said 'Fonda predicted violence' but then quoted her saying Hillary would face 'backlash.'

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    2. Anonymous4:59 AM

      That isn't what she said, so you can breathe easy...and then read the article.

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  10. Anonymous3:33 PM

    So the ni**er haters will morph into he-man woman haters. Second verse same as the first.

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    1. Anonymous4:09 PM

      I always knew that Hillary Clinton was going to receive the same backlash as did President Obama. First the horrible black man and now the 'woman' they fear above all else!

      We need to stop all this 'anti' junk and work together, support our POTUS and get things done in America! It's way past time.

      And, thank you President Obama and VP Biden! You two have done an outstanding job in spite of all the obstruction!

      Voting does matter - by each and every one of us eligible to vote - to include all races and religions.

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    2. Anonymous6:04 PM

      Oh no, Hillary will face more than Barack did, just read what Bernard Sanders posters write.

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  11. Anonymous3:40 PM

    PIG PIG OINK OINK>
    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/pennsylvania-cop-threatens-child-on-school-bus-dont-smile-or-ill-drag-you-to-the-fcking-police-car/

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    1. Anonymous4:23 PM

      ? I guess if you don't teach children to respect law enforcement then things will be much harder for them.

      Your comments left off topic, weirdly, are just in fact, weird and strange and well, we don't all agree here with what you post.

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    2. Anonymous6:46 PM

      4:23 for you and your's..
      http://www.wesh.com/news/substitute-teacher-accused-of-threatening-to-shoot-students/37343036

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    3. Anonymous9:30 PM

      Actually the "they don't teach their children to respect law enforcement statement is bogus. I suppose you don't have to give your children the "Pol8ce" talk about being as respectable as possible,no sudden movements,don't argue even if you are innocent and then pray that the come across a cop who won't bear them or worst. In America the only ones saying" they don't respect law enforcement" are the ones not worried about getting shot if they are pulled over for not signalling long enough.I was pulled over last week and pulled out of my car at gun point. My crime supposedly looking like a suspect. They were looking for a man driving a red truck. I'm a woman driving a black car. Screw your teach them to respect law enforcment. Law enforcement needs to learn to respect all people.

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  12. Anita Winecooler3:48 PM

    I'm soooo grateful to Jane Fonda for all those hypocritical toxic feminine exercise videos while having fat sucked out of everywhere and a team of plastic surgeons to nip any tuck that happens to show. But she did one thing right, she gave me the name "on golden pond" as a moniker for the pee pond, and for that, alone I thank her.
    Hey Hillary, start wearing mens suits, gain some weight and smoke cigars because to win, you have to act like Bella Abzug on steroids. Believe Jane, she's been burning everyone's bras for YEARS. Tells other women to win in a man's world, you gotta act like one. Sorry, Jane times have changed.

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    1. Anonymous3:59 PM

      I eyeroll at Jane Fonda. What would she know about "real life" growing up privileged?

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    2. Anonymous4:11 PM

      Anita W.,
      she actually had some ribs removed to give her that trim waistline! What a fraud.

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    3. Anonymous7:25 PM

      Jane Fonda actually did NOT have some ribs removed. It's an urban legend.

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  13. Anonymous4:03 PM

    Will we ever be able to see the forest instead of the trees? There are so many enormous problems facing all of us, will we ever fight for all of us? I'm glad I'm 60, 'cause the minor $hit we can't get past, just pisses me off.
    GeorgiaPeach

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    1. Anonymous4:19 PM

      59 in September; me too!
      I fear for my grand kids' future.

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    2. Anonymous4:22 PM

      I hear ya! I'm turning 50 this year, and I have no children, my brother has no children, we made a conscious choice after leaving college and finding our mates, who also wanted no children, to just leave anything that we accumulated in this world to Public/TV and radio.

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    3. Anonymous5:28 PM

      Just a shout out to Georgia Peach...I love your posts!

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  14. Anonymous4:08 PM

    Fuck you, Jane. Stick to making shitty movies and even shittier workout videos.

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  15. Anonymous4:45 PM

    Really Gryphen? "the old Democratic Socialist Jew will". You are better than that.

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    1. Anonymous6:51 PM

      Sigh, that's not what Gryphen thinks, it's what the Republicans think.

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  16. Anonymous4:50 PM

    Michael Kosak
    4 months 30 days ago

    Read this carefully and then picture these good little socialsts in charge of THE GOVERNMENT where they have the guns and power to force their will on others, for their own good:

    “Staff, faculty and students “have been reduced to silence and fear of retribution by what can only be described as a pattern of intimidation, spying, and targeting of critical voices,” she wrote.

    “Grill described a closed and hostile environment, claiming that Sanders frequently yelled at staff and managed to eliminate anyone who voiced criticism. In the letter, Grill claims that “many concerned voices were forced out by continual abuse and by eventually being offered humiliating and unfair contracts in which they were demoted below people who were, in many cases, less qualified for their positions.”

    http://vtdigger.org/2011/09/27/jane-sanders-resigns-presidency-of-burlington-college-reaches-settlement/

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  17. Anonymous6:13 PM

    REALLY?
    “I think you can judge a candidate based on how you raise money and who you ultimately become dependent upon.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sanders-on-campaign-drama-im-tired-of-being-beaten-up-by-hillary-were-responding-in-kind/

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    1. Anonymous6:52 PM

      Sanders really thought Clinton was beating him up? That's pathetic.

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  18. Anonymous6:41 PM

    Polls Show The World Overwhelmingly Loves President Obama (IMAGE)

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/04/17/polls-show-the-world-overwhelmingly-loves-president-obama-image/

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  19. Anonymous6:46 PM

    Trump Is Now Officially Increasing The Chance Of A Nuclear Incident According To This Report

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/04/17/trump-is-now-officially-increasing-the-chance-of-a-nuclear-incident-according-to-this-report/

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  20. Anonymous6:48 PM

    Duran Duran Goes Full LGBT Pride In North Carolina To Combat Hate, And It’s Magnificent (VIDEO)

    With respect to the current storm which is howling through this State, we considered cancelling our show on Saturday, but decided to go ahead, both for the sake of our fans and to support those in North Carolina who feel as strongly as we do about this issue. We see this as an opportunity to make the following statement.

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/04/17/duran-duran-goes-full-lgbt-pride-in-north-carolina-to-combat-hate-and-its-magnificent-video/

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  21. Anonymous7:01 PM

    Hillary Clinton Is Fixing To Break The Republican South By Turning Georgia Blue

    Hillary Clinton isn't just trying to win the White House. Clinton wants to break the Republican South, and her plan starts with a serious push to win Georgia in 2016.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/17/hillary-clinton-fixing-break-republican-south-turning-georgia-blue.html

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    1. Anonymous7:40 PM

      Awesome!

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  22. Anonymous7:05 PM

    Fox News Is At The Cliff’s Edge And Donald Trump May Push Them Over

    http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=31408

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  23. Anonymous7:36 PM

    Bernie Sanders drew a record crowd of 28,300 to Prospect Park in Brooklyn, NY, who heard the Democratic presidential candidate pull no punches in a massive effort to get his supporters ready to vote in Tuesday’s New York Democratic primary.

    Video:

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/17/bernie-sanders-unleashes-scathing-speech-front-record-crowd-28300-brooklyn.html

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    1. Anonymous8:43 PM

      http://vtdigger.org/2011/09/27/jane-sanders-resigns-presidency-of-burlington-college-reaches-settlement/

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    2. Anonymous12:37 AM

      Big rallies are nice, but what matters is who shows up to vote.

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  24. Anonymous7:37 PM

    Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has unveiled his plan to deal with one of the great problems facing working class Americans, access to affordable housing.

    After a walking tour of Brooklyn’s Brownsville neighborhood, Sen. Sanders said, “This is the wealthiest country in the history of the world. People should not be forced to live in dilapidated housing.”

    The affordable housing crisis is a nationwide problem that is rarely discussed by policymakers. Sanders was touring an urban area, but the crisis impacts both urban and rural communities.

    To combat the problem, Sen. Sanders has announced his detailed plan to expand affordable housing, which includes:

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/17/bernie-sanders-releases-plan-expand-access-affordable-housing.html

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    1. Anonymous12:38 AM

      I like how they call it his "detailed plan."

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    2. Anonymous5:49 AM

      He may have all these grandiose plans, but is Congress going to let him push them through? President Obama has been fighting with these morons for the past 7 years about stuff that's not controversial at all.

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