Friday, April 08, 2016

Who said it?

“Well, I think Lincoln succeeded for numerous reasons. He was a man who was of great intelligence, which most presidents would be. But he was a man of great intelligence, but he was also a man that did something that was a very vital thing to do at that time. Ten years before or 20 years before, what he was doing would never have even been thought possible. So he did something that was a very important thing to do, and especially at that time.”

You would be excused for thinking that the above nonsense was the meandering response of a sixth or seventh grade student trying desperately to answer a question about one of our most famous presidents after failing to do the reading.

But you would be mistaken.



Guess who.
Instead it is the response from a man who currently leads the GOP field in his bid to be President of the United States.

Sadly that is only one of the incredibly ignorant responses that Trump gave to journalist Bob Woodward during an interview earlier this week.

And it is yet another reminder of why this presidential race is so incredibly important and why the candidate on the Democratic side needs to be knowledgeable, tested, and well schooled in GOP trickery.

Know anybody like that?

85 comments:

  1. Olivia7:35 AM

    No wonder Sarah hitched her pathetic ass to that pathetic lump of orange viscosity. They speak the same language.

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    1. Anonymous8:01 AM

      I actually thought it was $arah who said this.

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    2. Anonymous8:13 AM

      I immediately thought of the mental midget screech. Then,trump. Dumb and Dumber.

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    3. Anonymous8:19 AM

      Wow,it was my friend Bob who did the interview. He's one of our favorite columnists. He sure has gone grey,like the rest of us. ;-)

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    4. Boscoe9:01 AM

      I knew it couldn't have been $arah, there was no folksy-skeevy attempt at emasculating Obama clumsily worked into it. :P

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    5. "The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality.

      But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

      "The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

      -- H.L. Mencken
      (before television and the internet)

      Obama was the exception to the rule. With rampant red-state gerrymandering, widespread voter suppression (acknowledged last week in Wisconsin) and rigged ballot machines -- will this happen to America -- again?


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  2. Anonymous7:36 AM

    Drop a few g's, wink a few times and say, "you betcha!" and it could be Snowdrift Snooki also too.
    It's horrifying to think that either of these idiots has ever gotten close to the seat of power in this country.

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    1. That's what came to my mind too. (After thinking it sounded like a sixth grader trying to bluff his way through an essay question.)

      Palin is giving Drumpf speech lessons now? Is she his new press secretary? Speech writer?

      This buffoon is totally clueless and bluffing his way through the election. And mores the pity, his supporters are allowing him to get away with it. They simply don't care he is unqualified and uneducated and simply not fit for the office.

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  3. SallyinMI7:45 AM

    Geez, I would have sword it was Dr. Ben, the Ignorant. Instead, it's King Donnie of the Stupid.

    America is screwed. Get out and vote!! And yes, I believe Hillary is far better equipped to deal with untesTED, and the cyclone known as Trump than anyone else.

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  4. Anonymous7:51 AM

    I am not a Trump fan at all and it seems really weird to defend him but here goes...
    Lincoln was a man of great intelligence. We all agree on that. Secondly, he did champion a cause that was and always will be a very worthy one. As far as Trump goes, I think he is trying to say that Lincoln was a very brave person to stand against slavery. Also, I get the feeling that Trump is trying to also saying that timing plays a big role in anyone's success/failure.

    Trump's answer wasn't worded very well, he's clearly stumbling around, but it's not completely Palinesque.

    Aside from his views, I think Trump is probably of average intelligence. I do not however, believe he has a steady enough temperament to be POTUS.

    Go Hillary! She will annihilate him in the election.

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    1. Anonymous8:06 AM

      I've always considered him one outburst short of a major coronary.

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    2. 66gardeners8:07 AM

      Trump's and Palin's speaking is typical of someone with dyslexia.

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    3. Anonymous8:36 AM

      66gardeners8:07 AM
      Trump's and Palin's speaking is typical of someone with dyslexia.
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      You misspelled dementia :)
      Seriously, they both sound like students I've had who were stumbling and grasping to hide the fact that they had no idea what they were talking about.

      Mildre

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    4. Anonymous8:42 AM

      Speaking of dementia, I seem to be having a terrible time with my name lately!

      Mildred

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    5. Anonymous9:05 AM

      Sorry but if this is how Trump speaks off the cuff can you just imagine him speaking to foreign heads of state? I cannot and will do everything I can to make sure that never happens unless they are at one of his casinos.

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    6. 66gardeners9:25 AM

      Mildred, you do people with dyslexia a disservice by ignoring it. There are so many people suffering because they do not know why they seemingly can not learn to read and write.

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    7. Anonymous9:59 AM

      66gardeners
      Mildred most certainly isn't; get off her @ss! There's plenty
      of dyslexia sites you can hang out at on the internet since that seems like all you want to talk about.

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    8. Anonymous10:47 AM

      66gardeners, I was was just joking that your diagnosis was wrong, nothing mean intended. Though honestly, neither Trump nor Palin seem to be dyslexic to me (and I have had much experience with those who do) I might be wrong, but they do seem more like lazy posers to me.

      Mildred

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    9. 66gardeners12:53 PM

      I have a very deep knowledge of identifying dyslexia. When this becomes common knowledge about Trump, I will remember our discussions.

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    10. Anonymous12:54 PM

      As someone who has graded a whole lot of college essay exams, I would score this as a 1 out of a possible 10 points. They get the one point for writing something that seems to be on topic, but zero for content. The one point is generous and ultimately won't help them pass the test.

      This clearly was an attempt to baffle with bullshit and that never works among intelligent people. Trump is a con man, nothing more.

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  5. Anonymous7:51 AM

    "Ten years before, or 20 years before, what he was doing would never have been thought possible." -- Donald J. Trump.

    What Lincoln was doing 10-20 years before (before what I don't know but let's just say Trump meant before Lincoln was elected President) Lincoln was practicing law in Illinois.

    I'm not sure why that activity "would never have been thought possible" but I guess if you don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about and you continue to blow smoke out your ass all day it makes perfect sense.

    Sheesh.

    A Fan From Chicago

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    1. Anonymous10:01 AM

      I think he might have been referring to Lincoln's enacting the Emancipation Proclamation. Even so,it says little about Lincoln's intelligence. It was the outcome of the civil war. Trump has to compare everything to "The Art of the Deal".

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    2. Anonymous12:37 PM

      It should be The Art of the Bankruptcy because that is how trump defrauded banks and regular guys.

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  6. Anonymous7:53 AM

    If I was Manafort I would get my pay up front and in cash. Same for the other campaign workers. I suspect when this is over, there will be money owed even if trump does well.

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  7. Anonymous7:54 AM

    I guessed Trump, the repetitive nonsense was a big clue and the fact it took a paragraph and a lot of words to say nothing.

    Donnie cannot think on his feet. He needs prepared statements and slogans, then he still uses up a lot of oxygen in the room and says absolutely nothing of substance.

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    1. Anonymous9:32 AM

      I think Trump needs steady positive narcissistic supply. When confronted with a keen observer, Trump feels exposed, which cuts into his already poor coherence.

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    2. He can't think lying down either. He can't think because he doesn't think. His entire life objective is to get something over on the person speaking to him at the time, making a 'deal' in which he is the 'winner' and the other person the 'loser'. That's as deep as he is. Vapid and shallow.

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  8. Caroll Thompson7:57 AM

    When the race started, I would have said that both Ben Carson and Trump were fairly smart people.

    I was wrong, plain and simple. In the R world, they seem to like their candidates ignorant. The more ignorant the candidate is, the better they like them.

    If it were not so early, I think I would be reaching for that bottle of scotch I keep in the pantry.

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    1. Boscoe9:04 AM

      At this rate we'll both be carrying that bottle of scotch in a holster by the time November gets here... ;P

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    2. Anonymous9:55 AM

      The Rs prefer their candidate ignorant and easy to manipulate. That's why the neocons went after obama calling him a muslim ext. Obama wouldn't play ball with them and they knew he wouldn't kowtow to them. I love our president!

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  9. Anonymous8:10 AM

    He's been vetted about as well as Bernie has.

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    1. Anonymous9:45 AM

      When did the Donald ever hold public office?

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    2. Anonymous12:29 PM

      Since when are only the people who have held public office "vetted"?

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  10. Anonymous8:17 AM

    Off topic, but Gryphen, I thought you might enjoy these articles about God.

    God Is Not Dead — but Our Ability to Be Aware of God Might Be

    http://time.com/4285441/god-is-not-dead/

    http://time.com/4285383/god-will-never-die/

    http://time.com/4285837/rumors-of-gods-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/

    See How Americans’ Belief in God Has Changed Over 70 Years

    http://time.com/4283975/god-belief-religion-americans/

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    1. Anonymous8:44 AM

      Who would have thought door-to-door missionary work could be so hilarious?

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mormons-rework-of-adele-hello-is-on-a-mission-to-make-you-laugh_us_5706b25ce4b0b90ac271a0e4

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  11. Anonymous8:23 AM

    Actually, Carson is pretty honest about trump.

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    1. Boscoe9:07 AM

      Mmmm... I dunno if cynically trying to straddle sucking up to Trump *just enough* to get a position in his administration while being *just* honest enough to not destroy his own credibility, really counts as "honesty".

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  12. Anonymous8:35 AM

    The Trump effect: Koch-linked groups abandon GOP primary for Senate races

    Conservative groups frustrated by Republican nomination contest, particularly frontrunner Donald Trump, advised to ignore the ‘cult of the presidency’

    Key conservative groups backed by the billionaire Koch brothers and their network of rich allies are plowing millions into Senate races after becoming frustrated by the overheated rhetoric and policies of leading Republican presidential candidates – especially frontrunner Donald Trump – and opting to stay out of the primaries.

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/08/koch-linked-republican-donors-abandon-trump-presidential-primary-senate-campaigns

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    1. Anonymous8:58 AM

      To think, this time last year the number one worry on progressive minds was the Koch's stealing the election. Then came Trump. Looking back now they were such simple times.

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    2. @ 8:58 -- they are still capable of stealing elections, if "only" down-line, thus keeping GOP in charge of total opposition even if Dems win W.H.

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    3. Anonymous3:33 PM

      Trump just wanted koch respect but got none so he poached employees from their pac AFL to run his campaign. But, as he is finding out, they only know about pacs and nothing about delegates.

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  13. Anonymous8:36 AM

    It's no wonder that Trump and Sarah Palin get on so well together ans understand each other ..... They speak the same language.

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  14. Anonymous8:38 AM

    Donald J. Trump is expanding his team and empowering his newly hired convention manager as he tries reboot his presidential campaign after the worst two-week stretch of his brief political career.

    The stepped-up role for the convention manager, Paul Manafort, a veteran of floor fights whose presence on Mr. Trump’s campaign has created anxiety among other top aides, was intended in part to quash reports of infighting and concerns about an organization whose performance has been lackluster at best in a recent string of nominating contests.

    The expansion was announced a day after a lengthy and, at times, tense meeting that included Mr. Trump, Mr. Manafort and the campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, who has been the focus of intense scrutiny after Mr. Trump’s lopsided loss in Wisconsin on Tuesday night, difficulty recruiting allies for some state conventions and Mr. Lewandowski’s recent arrest on battery charges.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/08/us/politics/new-hire-signals-a-reboot-in-the-donald-trump-campaign.html

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    1. Anonymous9:07 AM

      Is that why he cancelled his Colorado and California rally dates?

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    2. Anita Winecooler4:30 PM

      The "excuse" was, beside running for President, he runs one of the biggest businesses in the world. A few weeks ago, he crowed that the business is being run by his sons, so he has nothing to focus on but campaigning. What an odd position Corey's put Donald in. Everything was fine, and now he has to lie.

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  15. Anonymous8:40 AM

    Donald Trump’s Health Care Ideas Bewilder Republican Experts

    ...This whipsaw of ideas is exasperating Republican experts on health care, who call his proposals an incoherent mishmash that could jeopardize coverage for millions of newly insured people.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/09/us/politics/donald-trump-health-care.html

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    1. 66gardeners9:26 AM

      as if republicans actually cared about people losing health coverage

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    2. Trump's moronic "whipsaw of ideas" may be exasperating Rep. experts, but at this point words are irrelevant: Cruz and Trump are appealing to the lizard brain.

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  16. Anonymous8:52 AM

    This essay offers an explanation. It is well worth reading.

    http://www.stirjournal.com/2016/04/01/i-know-why-poor-whites-chant-trump-trump-trump/

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    1. Anonymous10:49 AM

      "Religious and political leaders began using a combination of fear, sex, and God to paint a chilling picture of freed angry Black men ravaging the South."

      "many of the wealthy planters who benefitted economically from slavery were granted exemptions from military service and avoided the horrors of battle. On both sides of the Mason-Dixon line, wealthy elites were allowed to pay other men to take their place on the bloody battlefields. As the war lingered on, poor whites in the North and South began to realize the rich had waged the war, but it was the poor who were dying in it.

      I’m just a poor white trash motherfucker. No one cares about me."

      Trump didn’t seem threatened by the public sector’s involvement in his four corporate bankruptcies. Trump told Forbes in April 2011, “Basically I’ve used the laws of the country to my advantage and to other people’s advantage … just as many, many others on top of the business world have.”
      Do wealthy elites and politicians care about poor and middle class people when they send them off to war, or are they anticipating massive profits?

      Trump is railing against establishment politics not because he cares about the white underclass, but because he needs us — for now. He isn’t reaching out a hand to lift us up. He wants to stand on our shoulders so we can lift him up."

      S-B-M

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  17. Anonymous8:56 AM

    O/T But, I thought you might enjoy watching Clinton take digs at Pres Obama's legacy,

    “But if you believe we can all rise together, if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us..."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9bsP2As3uc

    Go Hillary!

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    1. Anonymous9:41 AM

      You misinterpreted what he said! It was about the racism etc that escalated with the election of a first black president

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    2. Anonymous11:02 AM

      Thank you..it was indeed. And none of that is Obama's doing. The GOP has hated him forever, and their bigotry is just not hidden any longer.

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  18. Anonymous8:57 AM

    His answer to the question was correct, lacking in detail but a decent summation of Lincoln and the emancipation. however, his wording and sentence structure was that of a 4th grader.

    Palin would have bungled both the wording as well as the answer to the question.

    Does Trump speak so simply because he knows his audience, or does he speak this way because he's unable to organize his thoughts? His manner of speaking seems to have devolved recently, even from how he behaved and spoke on the Apprentice, so I think this might be an effort not to speak over his supporters heads.

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    1. 66gardeners9:27 AM

      The average adult with dyslexia has a 5th grade reading level. They are not inherently morons. Moronism comes into play when they believe they know enough to be president despite the fact that they do not read.

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    2. Anonymous9:52 AM

      66-6. "Morons" being your son and husband right?...Speak for yourself..

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    3. 66gardeners12:58 PM

      9:52 grow up dipstick

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    4. Anonymous1:01 PM

      Morons being Sarah Palin, any and all Bushes, and Donald Trump. It is only a matter of time before it is common knowledge they have dyslexia. The Bushes are already exposed.

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  19. Anonymous9:02 AM

    Har Har. Clinton trips up when trying to invent a " look how smoothly I can ride the subway" moment. Instead of video showing her breezing through the turnstile with her Metrocard like an experienced commuter, she was captured awkwardly swiping, reswiping, reswiping, reswiping then even more awkwardly standing for 2 stops pretending to read the ads while completely surrounded from human contact by Secret Service. Didn't notice if she had her $1600 McQueen handbag for this jaunt like the one she had at The View. $600 hairdos and $1600 designer handbags - she's part of the elite not even pretending anymore to be a gal of the people because she isn't. Instead of campaigning in NY, she flew to Bexley, Ohio for another high admission fundraiser at a mansion. She's a joke.

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    1. Anonymous9:17 AM

      She is such a joke. A rich buffoon with handlers is still just a buffoon.

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    2. Crystal Sage9:28 AM

      Meanwhile, Bernie was doing what? Good eye to pick out her designer handbag. Most would not know it from a purse from Target. I hope you understand that a person like Hillary becomes wealthy through education at top schools and hard work and yes, knowing the right people. Bernie might have followed the same course but he spent a lot of time tilting at windmills. Trump, of course, inherited his wealth and married a smart woman (Ivana).

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    3. 66gardeners9:28 AM

      9:02
      Here's to hoping Hillary's inauguration day is as devastating to you as Obama's

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    4. Anonymous9:41 AM

      What's wrong with the elite? What's wrong with a designer handbag? Get an education and make something of yourself and you too can afford extra's that you want.
      Or do you think Bernie is going to throw all those kinds of free extras at you?
      Bernie might have had his own "extras" if he hadn't chosen to stay unemployed for 18 yrs to avoid paying child support, but I'm sure he made that up when he ripped students off with his "free" pay out the ass for college where students built up massive debt to attend.

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    5. Anonymous9:42 AM

      Hey that would be me, even being a veteran rider

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    6. Anonymous9:43 AM

      9:02 am. Jealous much?? Here's hoping Hillary pisses in your cheerios when shes nominated as our FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT. And before you go off on bill,how many male presidents didn't cheat on their wives? More that did,than didn't.

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    7. Anonymous10:00 AM

      Hillary only pisses in her depends 9:43. A little squirt with every cackle.

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    8. Anonymous11:00 AM

      Wow. Go back to Breitbart, would you? You have nothing to contribute here.

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    9. Anonymous11:08 AM

      Go back to cforp 9:02, I saw you make that same comment over there.

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    10. Anonymous12:59 PM

      proof that palins read and post here

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    11. Anonymous3:44 PM

      10:00 am. We may never know if hillary uses depends . Many do,and some should. However,we do know Mrs.Palin has hygiene issues and has a noticeable odor/ripeness to her.

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  20. Anonymous9:17 AM

    My president is awesome.

    https://obamadiary.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/20904644605_66056f0925_b.jpg?w=1284&h=857

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  21. He sounds as intelligent as Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods. She broke the glass ceiling for morons.

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  22. Anonymous9:50 AM

    This Paul Ryan Video Sure Looks A Lot Like A 2016 Campaign Ad

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-ryan-video-definitely-not-a-campaign-ad

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  23. Anonymous10:25 AM

    Who won on what we think he is talking about?

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  24. OFF-TOPIC: If you thought having a second child would cause Bristol to focus on motherhood, education, job, and future, think again.

    She's back on her Instagram page with stupid cross-eyed, fish-lip photos.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BD8cpUZS9s_/?taken-by=bsmp2&hl=en

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    1. Anonymous11:25 AM

      Also, Dakota posted a thank you for a flying lesson today and Bristol's comment: Sailor says
      BE CAREFUL...

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    2. Anonymous1:07 PM

      When you repeatedly artificially over-inflate your lips, they will look fishy

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    3. Anonymous1:16 PM

      The new orangutang.

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    4. Anonymous3:49 PM

      What kind of grown men lounge around on the instagram pages of Bristol Palin and then go on social media to gossip about it? Really speaks more to you than Bristol Palin.

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  25. Anonymous11:38 AM

    What can you expect from an orangutan in a human suit?

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  26. Anonymous11:54 AM

    dRrumpf once cashed a 13 cent check...
    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/105804/TRUMP-KHASHOGGI-TIE-FOR-HONORS-AS-AMERICAS-CHEAPEST-ZILLIONAIRES.html?pg=all

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/trump-least-charitable-billionaire-109247

    http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=31353

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    1. Anonymous1:49 PM

      "While they were legally entitled to do what they did," said Perskie, "the devastating impact that their decisions had on so many other people and so many other small businesses in this area have never been acknowledged."When Trump first invested in Atlantic City he told regulators he would never rely on junk bonds as others had done. "Well he did," said Perskie.

      "He never invested 10 cents of his own money in any of this,"

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  27. Anonymous1:40 PM

    wow, sraah and donald--hard to tell them apart anymore. this just goes to show that idiot trump studies nothing and doesn't read (except for his bedside hitler). he's been throwing around names of people he says he admires but he can't answer in specifics when asked about those people. he just got asked about teddy roosevelt last week and he did the same thing with that as with lincoln. he said nothing to act as evidence that he knew anything about the man.

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  28. Anita Winecooler3:48 PM

    He looks like Fred Flinstone's blonde cabana boy in that photo, but I digress.... I would never, in a thousand years, think someone running for the highest office would say something so stupid and tone deaf. What's next? Gold plated lawn jockeys on Trump Towers? No wonder Sarah's so attracted to him.
    But there's always a silver lining. David Duke and the KKK know about the Gettysburg Address and freeing the slaves. There goes a chunk of votes down the toilet.

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