Friday, April 08, 2016

Hillary Clinton's response to Bernie Sanders saying she is unqualified to be President.

Okay I thought that was fair and non-confrontational, unlike Sanders' response.

Speaking of Sanders' response this is how he responded to Charlie Rose on this topic yesterday:

Bernie Sanders is refusing to back down from his claim that Hillary Clinton is not "qualified" to be president, though he told CBS host Charlie Rose on Thursday that he only attacked her because she attacked him first. 

“Do you believe Secretary Clinton is unqualified to be president?” Rose asked the Vermont senator on CBS Evening News on Thursday.

“Well, does Secretary Clinton believe that I am unqualified to be president?” Sanders shot back. 

Is anybody else getting a distinct Donald Trump vibe here?

By the end of the interview Sanders had grudgingly acknowledged that Hillary Clinton would be better than any of the choices on the Republican side. 

Here is what Josh Marshall of TPM has to say about all of this:

All candidates, by definition, say that they're more qualified than their opponent. Various things Clinton said can be reasonably interpreted as questioning whether Sanders is up to the job of the presidency. But it is an entirely different matter when an opponent, in his own voice, says flatly his challenger is "unqualified" to serve as President of the country. That's something that cannot be unsaid. If Clinton is the nominee, it will undoubtedly be a staples of GOP stump speeches in the Fall. These are simple realities of political campaigns. Primaries that drag on get intense. Especially in the venomous and kinetic New York media environment. The Clinton operation has plenty of sharp elbows themselves. But it is incumbent on both candidates to fight hard and yet not say things that can't be unsaid - not always as easy thing to manage. Because it matters a lot on various fronts, what the candidate him or herself says, says explicitly. 

Hopefully from this point forward both the Sanders' camp and the Clinton camp will keep in mind that either one of them are far, far, far better than anyone being offered on the GOP side, and stop providing ammunition that will be used against the ultimate Democratic nominee in the general election. 

136 comments:

  1. Anonymous10:47 AM

    Honestly this is much ado about nothing, mostly from the press and bloggers I can only assume trying to stir up interest. Everyone is acting like they have never seen a political primary before with the he said she said business. Nothing that goes back and forth right now is going to make a spit of difference in the general. Frankly it is good to see a little fire in this whole thing.

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    1. Anonymous11:39 AM

      I hope Sanders can get it together before the NY debate.

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    2. Anonymous11:39 AM

      Well, in this case it's a "he said, she didn't say."

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    3. Anonymous12:57 PM

      11:39-both of you- they have both said the same things, at least to anyone with a brain. We are all well aware of the Hillary semantics game.

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    4. Anonymous2:21 PM

      The Hillary semantics game? @12:57, are you serious? Bernie is way too emotional for his own good and now has flip flopped on this!

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    5. Anonymous2:42 PM

      Yes, the Hillary semantics game. Absolutely.

      Face it, the Hillary campaign, Hillary, and her supporters all were pretending to play nice with the old guy from Vermont. The hopeful anticipation was that he would bow out with a pat on the back for his valiant effort etc... so that you could all go forward with the predetermined candidate by the DNC. The DNC and Hillary have been planning, plotting, and playing dirty games before this primary even started to heavily tilt the nomination for Hillary Inc. They simply can't have it any other way. It is dirty and everyone knows it.

      Now Hillary is finding herself floundering once again. The reactionary tone of her campaign is showing just how weak of a candidate she really still is. She simply is uninspiring and lacks any leadership qualities.

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    6. Anonymous3:19 PM

      Keep drinking the Hillary Koolaid 3:07. Hillary is showing herself to be a twice failed candidate. How embarrassing for her and all her fans.

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    7. Anonymous3:21 PM

      Bomber Bernie
      http://bit.ly/1Xm9h1l

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    8. Anonymous3:26 PM

      What you don't know about Hillary pt 1
      http://bit.ly/1VbKvUx

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    9. Anonymous4:19 PM

      Well for this first half pf Bernie's adult life he chose to be unemployed in is second half he has chosen to be mediocre at best, collecting his pa

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    10. Anonymous4:24 PM

      Oh yes, it's all Hillary's fault for speaking out against Bernie the deadbeat Dad and his Bots have to say. She should ignore his lying and and his nasty statements because he is a MAN after all!

      Well Fuck Bernie and his 'Bots, we women haven't been silent for 70 yrs!

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    11. Anonymous6:20 PM

      Nothing is EVER Bernard's fault. He takes zero responsibility! Did something go wrong? Well, don't point to Bernie! He is pure as the fallen snow. /s

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    12. Anonymous7:10 PM

      6:20 I could swear you are talking about Hillary, because absolutely NOTHING is EVER her fault!

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    13. Anonymous7:31 PM

      7:10 - never an original thought of your own. Must copy HRC supporters or the right wingers! Sad!!

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  2. Raz Lemons10:52 AM

    This whole shit storm started on Morning Joe when Joe asked Hillary three different times if she thought Bernie was qualified to be President and three times Hillary refused to say yes or no but deferred to " Well let me say this " I call that playing semantics, Well guess what using the same semantics Bernie never said that Hillary wasn't qualified to be President, He said " She isn't qualified if " that is a quote, go watch the video, The word President never crossed his lips, Now enough of the whining lets get on with this.

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    1. Anonymous10:56 AM

      +++++

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    2. Anonymous11:05 AM

      Indeed!
      Seven more months of this crap?!

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    3. Anonymous11:12 AM

      It's the same coy "semantics" as when Clinton was asked if she thought Obama was a Muslim in 2008. She and her surrogates have learned nothing. I hope she gets buried again because I'd rather poke myself 72 times with a pointy stick than vote for her for president.

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    4. Anonymous11:16 AM

      He actually uttered the words. She never did. Big difference in a world of sound bites. She was utterly justified in criticizing his horrible answers to something that is the foundation of his campaign

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    5. But Bernie did say “ ... she [Hillary Clinton] has been saying lately that she thinks that I am, quote-unquote, 'not qualified' to be president. Well, let me, let me just say in response to Secretary Clinton: I don't believe that she is qualified, if she is, through her SUPER PAC ... “.

      He started it off saying he had been accused of not being qualified TO BE PRESIDENT. He is running for president, and he was referencing a person who was also currently running for president. So when he uses the word 'qualified' in the sentences immediately following, he does not have to say 'for president' again. It is assumed, and correctly assumed. Semantics? Perhaps. But it is in fact what he meant and I don't think he's even trying to deny it. The situation - and the semantics - of the Hillary quotes were not nearly the same, not by a long shot.

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    6. Anonymous11:24 AM

      You know, truth matters:

      MIKA BRZEZINSKI (CO-HOST): Late last night, Clinton's press secretary Brian Fallon responded to [Sanders'] remarks on Twitter saying quote "Hillary Clinton did not say Bernie Sanders was 'not qualified.' But he has now - absurdly - said it about her. This is a new low." He added "Bernie Sanders, take back your words about Hillary Clinton." Sanders did no such thing. His campaign released a statement that began quote "Responding to Hillary Clinton's attempt to portray him as unqualified for the White House, Senator Sanders linked her to a trade pact exploited by wealthy individuals and profitable corporations to avoid paying taxes." And then went on to spell out the rest of Senator Sanders, the senator's quotes from Philadelphia. That statement linked readers to a Washington Post article with the headline "Clinton questions whether Sanders is qualified to be president," which cited Secretary Clinton's remarks on Morning Joe. Both candidates have news conferences scheduled for 9:00 this morning right after Morning Joe. I feel like I'm in trouble. And Bernie Sanders will join us on set in New York tomorrow morning.

      JOE SCARBOROUGH (CO-HOST): OK so Mike Barnicle, you were there with us. I tried to get Hillary Clinton four times -- three or four times to say that Bernie Sanders was unqualified to be president of the United States and just like my interview with Rick Santorum, you know, I start asking a question, I keep going until I get an answer or give up. And after three or four attempts with Secretary Clinton I gave up because she was not going to say the words "He is unqualified to be president of the United States." Was that your takeaway from the interview as well or am I missing something?

      MIKE BARNICLE: No, she clearly did not say that Bernie Sanders was not qualified to be president and under Senator Sanders' logic in his comeback, is John Kerry qualified to be secretary of state? Because he, too, voted for many of the things that Hillary Clinton has cited in Senator Sanders' indictment. This is going to be a 12-day tension convention here in New York state between Senator Sanders and Secretary Clinton."

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    7. Anonymous11:27 AM

      So Clinton's coy (typically a veiled insult towards women) "semantics" is a problem, but Sanders's out outright saying it is not a problem? You just bend all over yourself trying to shift the blame, don't you.

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    8. Anonymous11:34 AM

      Bernie Sanders is acting like a little kid. This isn't the first time he's come back with "but she did it first!" (even though she didn't).

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    9. Anonymous12:28 PM

      lol, do you not listen to Hillary? Well, are you gonna ask him the same thing? lol comeon now...I thought you people here more intelligent than this.

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    10. Anonymous12:32 PM

      Raz Lemons, spot on. This is Hillary's politics...she is sly and did the same things with Obama and he called her out for being a liar and playing dirty politics. https://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTurks/videos/10153557767904205/

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    11. Anonymous2:36 PM

      If Bernie's not ready for the Big Leagues, he should stop wasting everyone's time & money. Being President is a lot harder than a campaign. He's just too old to get it now. He should have run 15 years ago so he could figure out how a national campaign works.

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    12. Anonymous4:27 PM

      " Planned parenthood is the problem"

      Bernie Sanders 2016


      "I haven't thought about foreign policy yet"
      Bernie Sanders April 2016



      He isn't qualified at all , fuck Bernie and his supporters.

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    13. Anonymous8:43 PM

      4:27 is a repeat troll? maybe needs to go back to the manual for some new ones

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  3. Anonymous10:53 AM

    No. A "distinct Donald Trump vibe" would have been making a dig at her face or whatever. No comparison.

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    1. Anonymous6:57 PM

      Or paying yuuuge sums to whoever to get them to attend your third wedding to some model in a $300K dress

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  4. Anonymous10:56 AM

    "stop providing ammunition that will be used against the ultimate Democratic nominee in the general election."

    Your words, Gryph. Try practicing them.

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    1. Anonymous11:09 AM

      http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/08/press-salivates-opportunity-democratic-primary-bad-republican.html

      http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/07/democrats-stop-bickering-focus-beating-republicans-november.html

      http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/07/democrats-carrying-republican-water-personal-character-attacks.html

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    2. Anonymous11:35 AM

      Your candidate should try practicing it too. If Hillary is the nominee, his words will be playing on FOX News non-stop.

      "While I’m sure many of his supporters will disagree, I think Bernie Sanders might have just crossed a line from which he can’t return. Now I get that this far into a primary election, everyone is sick of everyone. The candidates are tired, grumpy, testy and their patience is sometimes pretty thin. So, while it was a nice idea for Sanders to say he was going to run an “issue-focused” campaign, I always knew that at some point this race was going to turn negative."

      Read more at: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/bernie-sanders-words-logic-barack-obama-unqualified-president/

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    3. Anonymous11:36 AM

      False equivalency.

      This is Bernie Sanders, running for nomination and ultimately POTUS, not a random blogger.

      Do you think the GOP will be running ads saying "Gryphen says Bernie Sanders..." No, but they will run ads saying "Bernie Sanders says Hillary Clinton isn't qualified to be President."

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    4. Anonymous11:40 AM

      One assumes, or certainly hopes, that Bernie will back down and cool down in time, facing a choice between HRC and whoever the last clown standing turns out to be. And that his supporters will follow suit. Given time, it might occur to them that there are reasons to be excited over not only HRC's record, but also the prospect of a first female President in 240 years. (After Obama was elected, none other than George Will was heard to say on TV, this is a historic day.)
      No question, though, that Bernie ends up on the losing side of this battle. His campaign has my email address; I made one modest donation early on. They haven't been too awful about spamming me since then, but just this morning I got email, donations are off, can we count on you to pitch in?
      And, uh, no, sorry Berns, not this time. I used to be in the heart-says-Bernie-head-says-Hillary camp, but, well, I've had a change of heart.

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    5. Anonymous8:45 PM

      I'm like, release those tax forms berns, and we'll think about another donation mayber

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  5. Anonymous11:00 AM

    Bernie's point was pretty clear to me, if I am not qualified, than neither is Clinton.
    Both are very qualified and this is all just distraction, brought on by a slight bit of desperation on Clinton, since Sanders seems to be gaining momentum, instead of falling by the wayside. Hillary doesn't want to lose another presidential primary.

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    1. Anonymous11:11 AM

      THIS>
      President Obama, who has sought to stay out his party’s nominating contest, weighed in Thursday though a spokesman. Traveling with Obama on Air Force One, White House spokesman Eric Schultz said Obama believes that Clinton “comes to the race with more experience than any non-vice president” in recent campaign history. Schultz emphasized that Obama feels “fortunate” that Clinton, whom he defeated in a sometimes nasty battle for the 2008 nomination, served as his secretary of state."

      “Sanders made a strategic mistake by going down this road, because it’s off-brand. And you can convince voters of lots of things, but you can’t convince them Hillary Clinton is unqualified to be president,” Pfeiffer said.

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    2. Anonymous11:17 AM

      SHE. NEVER. SAID. IT.

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    3. Anonymous11:19 AM

      Anonymous11:11 AM

      +1,000,000

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    4. Anonymous11:37 AM

      She didn't say it. This was a major misstep on the part of Sanders and his team, and when confronted with it, he doubled down in a very childish way.

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    5. Anonymous12:25 PM

      Hillary implied it throughout by questioning his ability...just like she did Obama when she didn't feel Obama was qualified and even questioned his religion by saying she didn't know if he was a muslim. She didn't know if Bernie was qualilfied yet saying he doesn't seem to understand yada yada.. you get it...if you don't perhaps you shouldn't vote until you do.

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    6. Anonymous1:15 PM

      Anonymous12:25 PM

      Again, she did not say it. He did. Get it through your head.

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    7. Anonymous1:34 PM

      http://www.mediaite.com/tv/wait-what-cnn-reporter-says-hillary-clinton-poked-a-bear-in-current-bernie-sanders-feud/

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  6. Anonymous11:09 AM

    "A distinct Donald Trump vibe" OMFG.

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    1. Anonymous2:57 PM

      Same attitude as Trump

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    2. Anonymous4:31 PM

      Same misogynic attitude, I will not EVER vote for either one.

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  7. Anonymous11:10 AM

    US Presidential Election 2016

    http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/us-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=791149

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  8. Anonymous11:12 AM

    A Democratic Wave Could Be Building As 6 Senate Seats Tilt Away From Republicans

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/07/democratic-wave-building-6-senate-seats-tilt-republicans.html

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    1. Anonymous11:44 AM

      Shush up, Politicus -- now the Kock Bros will target those seats...

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  9. Anonymous11:32 AM

    "Sanders had grudgingly acknowledged that Hillary Clinton would be better than any of the choices on the Republican side."


    Grudgingly?

    No wonder people hate that stubborn old man. He can't even admit Hillary Clinton is better than the Republican candidates.


    No wonder he told his wife to get off of his stage.

    No wonder when his wife tried to kiss him after winning Wyoming he didn't give her his cheek, didn't lean towards her, didn't kiss her on her lips, basically Bernard didn't show his wife any affection.

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    1. Anonymous4:34 PM

      Bernie is and has never been anything but a misogynist.
      When he was married and got his gf knocked up, it was HER problem and he stayed unemployed for 17 yrs to avoid paying child support.

      Feb 2016

      Planned parenthood IS the problem"

      Bernie Sanders

      He has not evolved at all.

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    2. Anonymous8:54 PM

      4:34 is same one as 4:27 above.

      Shit, at least write something different to fool us. I like a good story!

      You have a decidedly false feminist rant going on with your style. You're trying to push that narrative too hard, and it's a "tell".
      Also it's insulting to people who are actually female, and feminists of either gender.

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  10. Anonymous11:47 AM

    O/T but so fun: Photo!!! From DWTS, fat (pregnancy #3), and pre-surgery.
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/bristol-palin-rips-azealia-banks-over-fight-with-her-mom-there-will-be-consequences/

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  11. Anonymous11:48 AM

    What kind of man is Bernie Sanders?

    What kind of Democrat is Bernie Sanders?

    Democrat In Name Only (DINO) Bernie Sanders had to be grudgingly coerced against his will into saying fellow Democrat Hillary Clinton would be a better president than Donald Trump or Ted Cruz

    If DINO Bernie Sanders would rather say President Trump or President Cruz then FUCK DINO Bernie Sanders we Democrats don't want to say President Bernie Sanders.


    "Sanders had grudgingly acknowledged that Hillary Clinton would be better than any of the choices on the Republican side."

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    1. Anonymous12:17 PM

      Sanders is NOT a Democrat and never has been.

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  12. Anonymous11:55 AM

    Synopsis:
    - Clinton campaign through her surrogates declared they were going to Disqualify Sanders, Defeat Sanders and Unify the party later.
    - Clinton and surrogates proceeded to hit Sanders hard.
    - Sanders hit back harder. Message: I'm not some little guy from Vermont who's going to let you roll over me. You hit me, I'll hit you back hard.
    - Clinton Thursday through several interviews: Message received.
    - The Metrocard goof took some of the wind out of her sails, too.

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    1. Anonymous12:48 PM

      You're missing a few steps.

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  13. Anonymous12:01 PM

    I'M RUNNING TO BE THE 2016 DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT
    -Bernie Sanders

    If I can't be the 2016 Democratic Presidential Nominee then I don't want any Democrat to be president. I feel that the United States of America would be better off with Republican President Donald Trump than Secretary of State Democrat Hillary Clinton

    So it shall be written. So it shall be done
    -DINO Bernie Sanders

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  14. Anonymous12:04 PM

    If Bernie Sanders doesn't want a Democrat to be president if he can't be the Democratic Presidential Nominee then what makes anybody think Bernie Sanders’s followers (Independents and others) would vote Democrat?

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    1. Anonymous4:37 PM

      Kind of like he quit the Liberty Party decades ago because he couldn't be in charge. Bernie is a nasty human and a deadbeat Dad.

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    2. Anonymous6:48 PM

      437 how is he a deadbeat dad? detail please

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    3. Anonymous9:09 PM

      4:37 is uninformed. Mother Jones, "How Bernie Sanders Learned to be a Real Politician" from May 26, 2015. You should probably read it, 4:37. Or 4:34, you're one and the same.
      Absolutely nothing to back up the deadbeat dad shit, 6:48. The article says he helped to raise his son. And the Liberty Party wanted to go international and he wanted it to stay local.

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  15. Anonymous12:06 PM

    If you can't vote for me then Vote Trump
    - Piss ass fake Democrat Bernie Sanders

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    1. Anonymous1:42 PM

      You seem very well versed on shit that you've made up.

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    2. Anonymous9:11 PM

      God, that's so stupid. When you come to the adults' table, please bring your 'A' game, if you have one, 12:06

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  16. Anonymous12:14 PM

    As the media have fired their blunderbusses at Donald Trump, trying to take down his candidacy — even as they benefit from the attention he brings them — you may have missed the whacks they’ve been taking at Clinton. She has been the media’s national piñata for so long, and the criticisms of her are so familiar by now, they are embedded in our consciousness as presumptions of guilt.

    Of course, the basic narrative is that she did this to herself because she is a bundle of character flaws. She is duplicitous and untrustworthy. She lies. She is a pawn of the rich and powerful. She feels entitled to do anything she damn pleases. That pretty much sums up the media take on Hillary, and that take is virtually unanimous, so much a given that practically no one in the media has bothered to give it a second thought. This isn’t the “sorta know” journalism I referenced last week. This is “we-all-know” journalism.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/the-mainstream-media-has-a-decades-old-hillary-narrative-and-theyre-sticking-to-it/

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    1. Anonymous1:08 PM

      All the media seems to be trying to take Hillary Clinton down! Makes no sense at all to me and she'll have my vote in spite of them!

      I believe she is by far the most qualified to be POTUS and that Bernie Sanders assuredly is not. He doesn't have the temperament for one thing and he's too old!

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  17. Anonymous12:15 PM

    Bernie Sanders is far from the slickest presidential candidate, but he is clearly the most effective television advertiser in the 2016 race. Sanders’ campaign is responsible for the three most effective presidential campaign ads that have aired this year, and 6 of the 10 most effective, according to research conducted by the advertising measurement firm Ace Metrix.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/trump-haters-and-bernie-lovers-make-the-best-tv-ads-research-shows/

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  18. Anonymous12:20 PM

    My daughter was an avid Bernie supporter until the New York Daily News interview where he couldn't answer the questions as to how he would go about pushing his main campaign platforms (breaking up the big banks, etc.) through. And now he's coming across as kind of a stubborn old man who just keeps repeating himself because he's been saying the same thing over and over his whole life. He appears unable to adapt to the conversation.........he just wants to yell out his same old mantra. He's lost my daughter's support, and I have a feeling she's not the only one. However, we'll still vote for him if he gets it, because the alternatives are absolutely horrible.

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    1. Anonymous1:04 PM

      What a sorry excuse to vote for him! He'd be horrible and is NOT qualified to be POTUS.

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    2. Anonymous4:39 PM

      Luckily your daughter is more informed than you are.

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  19. Anonymous12:22 PM

    excellent video on this subject:

    https://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTurks/videos/10153557767904205/

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    1. Anonymous1:02 PM

      If it's true that Sanders was a victim of a "trap" by the New York Daily News, then I submit that Hillary would have been adept enough to have figured that out during the interview and dealt with it. I just don't think Bernie's mind is all that limber at this point.........while Clinton is as sharp as a tack.

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    2. Anonymous2:39 PM

      Anyone who can be "trapped" by the NY Daily News is not ready for the Oval Office.

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    3. Anonymous3:26 PM

      Thus is Sanders entire campaign, economic reform. He should know it backwards and forwards, even if someone else is confused or tries to trick him (they didn't).

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    4. Anonymous4:41 PM

      Oh my fing Dog, so now the story lien is going to be Bernie was "trapped". Sorry, but if Bernie isn't sane enough to answer questions on the fly then he is too dementia ridden to be president.
      Someone should tell your candidate Bernie that things will get tougher in the days ahead.

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  20. Anonymous12:29 PM

    Uh oh:

    On or about March 31, Marcel Lehel Lazar was extradited 3,700 miles to Alexandria, VA from a prison in Arad, Romania, where he has been serving a seven-year sentence for hacking crimes committed in his native country. His targets in Romania were prominent government officials and political figures whom he often taunted under the name of Micul Fum or “Little Smoke.”

    One of the notches on his cyber-crime belt was allegedly accessing the email account of Clinton confidant Sidney Blumenthal, one of Clinton’s most prolific advice-givers when she was secretary of state. It was through that hack that Clinton's use of a personal account -- clintonemail.com -- first came to light.

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    1. Anonymous2:40 PM

      Link or lie

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  21. Anonymous12:31 PM

    Link to the hacker extradition story:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-guccifer-idUSKCN0WY5MK

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  22. Anonymous12:31 PM

    Bernie Sanders is far from the slickest presidential candidate, but he is clearly the most effective television advertiser in the 2016 race. Sanders’ campaign is responsible for the three most effective presidential campaign ads that have aired this year, and six of the 10 most effective, research conducted by the advertising measurement firm Ace Metrix indicates.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/pro-bernie-sanders-anti-donald-trump-political-ads-are-most-effective-tv-2350627

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    1. Anonymous2:40 PM

      So what?

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    2. Anonymous4:44 PM

      Did he air the fact he is a deadbeat Dad?

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    3. Anonymous6:45 PM

      @4:44 PLease send me to where I can find that out. I'm totally serious, if bernie's a deadbeat dad, that's a total dealbreaker.
      I've googled my ass off and can't find anything concrete about that. It's rumoured tht it was his son Levi by Susan Mott, but I want to know something solid.Not trolling you! Please give me something so i can shut up the bernis fans!

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  23. Anonymous12:40 PM

    READ THIS:
    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/the-mainstream-media-has-a-decades-old-hillary-narrative-and-theyre-sticking-to-it/

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  24. Anonymous12:44 PM

    Dumbass trump just sent emails to WA state delegates to register but registration was two.days ago.

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  25. I am not going to focus on the semantics, recordings, connotation, or subtleties of anything either Sanders or Clinton said in the context of two people under ferocious pressure and stress and a media determined to gin up a big clickbaity revenue-enhancing controversy. Yes, we have a right to expect a presidential candidate to bear up under pressure, but for heaven's sake, they are not super-human.

    I will keep studying both of them in regard to their policy positions, their plans for enacting those positions, and the likelihood that their policies can be implemented before making up my mind which one would make the best president.

    And then I will vote for whichever one of them gets the nomination because that person will be light years better than any republican Oh, and SCOTUS appointments.

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    1. Anonymous6:39 PM

      always a pleasure to read anything from Nefer, be it a palin stomp or whatever. Like the way you think.

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  26. Anonymous1:02 PM

    Bernie is a jerk - no doubt about it! He's not a Democrat and has no business in the race under that party. He should be an Independent or Non Partisan candidate. He's going to lose the nomination big time!

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    1. Anonymous3:43 PM

      Oh boohoo stomp those feet for Hillary!

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    2. Anonymous3:52 PM

      Sanders is the one speaking and acting like a child.

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    3. Anonymous5:02 PM

      @ anon 3:43pm
      h, boo hoo, how about we stomp our delegate votes for Hillary.
      Fuck off Bernie turd.


      Signed a Fing super delegate that will abstain before tossing a vote to the misogynic dead beat dad Bernie.

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    4. Anonymous5:51 PM

      anon 5:02 -

      That was awesome, thank you. :)

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    5. Anonymous6:20 PM

      Hey Fing superdelegate, what are you going to do when your chosen one is wearing all orange? You are a prime example of a corrupt system.

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    6. Anonymous6:45 PM

      6:20 - only a fool thinks she'll ever wear "orange," unless she's at a Denver Bronco game. You Berners are parroting the right wing talking points so well that we all suspect you love Ron Paul. Amirite?

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  27. Anonymous1:07 PM

    All of it comes down to this: Democrats gain the more likely it is that Trump becomes the nominee. If he doesn't become the nominee, Democrats gain by every additional increment of acrimony, division and chaos involved in denying him the nomination. As a possible additional benefit, the more the battle for dark delegates heats up and becomes the center of news, that should further lock the convention in to choosing either Trump or Cruz. So if not Trump, then Cruz. Also good for Democrats. Manafort's addition to the campaign seems to move the ball forward on both (or perhaps two-and-a-half) fronts. These guys are street fighters. They won't give up easily or go away quietly.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/good-news-for-dems

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  28. Anonymous1:09 PM

    After having been out of town for a week, and therefore only able to read IM and not comment, I feel I must have my say.

    Bernie Sanders less mature and more like an occupant of a single person Klown Kar every day. First of all, his interview with the NYDaily News during which he sounded about as inept policy-wise as any GOP candidate. I think he is very angry that what he said during the interview was criticized by many commentators.

    And then there's the accusation, by his spokesperson, that Hillary Clinton has too much "ambition" and that her ambition will "destroy the Democratic Party." First of all, Sanders was hiding behind someone else making the overtly sexist remark. Has anyone ever accused a male presidential candidate of having too much ambition? Of course not. It's absurd; anyone seriously running for the office has to be ambitious.

    Hillary Clinton proved herself by her years in the Senate, where she was a dependable member of the Democratic Party - something Bernie Sanders has obviously never been. And she served the country extremely well as Secretary of State. And the statement that Hillary Clinton's "ambition" would destroy the Democratic Party truly adds to the lunacy of what purports to be the Sanders' campaign. These words came from someone who works for the non-Democrat running as a Democrat, the guy who won't even acknowledge other Democrats running for office in his speeches and who is simultaneously on the ballot in his home state as an "Independent" for another term as senator. Are we to believe that Bernie Sanders cares one whit for the Democratic Party?

    I feel really sad that he has come so unglued. His responses to the questions by the NY Daily News were so pathetic. He is just plain ill-informed about most issues. And, after 20 years in Congress, that should not be so. Yet, if he gets the Democratic nomination I'll have to vote for him because the GOP alternative is so horrifying.
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous1:54 PM

      TRUTH him out!!!!!!!!!
      That is all WE can try to do....

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    2. Anonymous2:55 PM

      Ha! Sanders "truthed out" Clinton and forced her and her surrogates drop their Disqualify Him, Defeat Him, Unify the party later strategy

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    3. Anonymous3:41 PM

      First - a correction: The first sentence of my second paragraph should begin "Bernie Sanders seems . . . ." And what on earth do "truth him out" or "truthed out" mean? I was raised to write and speak the English language; am I missing something in 21st century computer-speak?
      Beaglemom

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    4. Anonymous5:59 PM

      2:55 - OH MY GOD, SHE IS RUNNING AGAINST ANOTHER CANDIDATE AND ACTUALLY TRYING TO WIN?? That's the last straw! America is NOT gonna like the idea of a Presidential candidate trying to defeat all the other candidates, that's for sure! You're going down now, Hillary, we won't stand for this!!! (eyeroll)

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  29. Anonymous2:02 PM

    Sanders reaction to this whole thing doesn't say much about his temperament or ability to think on his feet when being called out.

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  30. Anonymous2:04 PM

    Why are so many Sanders fans not able to say he messed this up? He made a mistake in how he handled the whole thing. You can do it and still support him. Admit it and move on.

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    1. Anonymous2:42 PM

      Because it's a cult of personality, not practical ideas.,

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    2. Anonymous2:45 PM

      No need to. This is a fight for the nomination. We like fighters that don't cave. How can this be a mess up when it seems to be playing out well for him?

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    3. Anonymous2:54 PM

      He didn't mess up anything. Clinton campaign declared: Disqualify him,Defeat him, unify the party later. When they started trying the Disqualify step, Sanders hit back. Hard enough to make Clinton back off the Disqualify strategy. Only those of you deep, deep in the Koolaid for Clinton don't understand that Sanders won.

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    4. Anonymous4:48 PM

      Because they are all dope heads that want weed legalized. They can't see anything else because their idol Bernie is going to rain free weed down on them.

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    5. Anonymous5:01 PM

      Keep spouting your bullshit 4:48, it only discredits you as, well, full of shit.

      What is that hissing noise I hear, is that the air coming out of Hillary's campaign?

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    6. Anonymous5:33 PM

      @ anon 5:01 pm
      That noise is probably your Mama getting ready to toss you out of her house.

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    7. Anonymous6:09 PM

      Most of Bernie's supporters are not registered to vote. If they were, Hillary wouldn't have millions more votes than he does. But she does.

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  31. Anonymous4:01 PM

    Clinton supporters are really starting to lose it lol. Now apparently Sanders isn't even a Democrat? lol.

    Good luck with the rest of the primary, if she isn't indicted already before the primary season is over.

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    1. Anonymous4:52 PM

      First of all, we have finally had enough of Bernie's crap, his wife might put up with his misogynic attitude but many of us Democrats male and female are done.
      AS for Bernie's party status, he himself has made it quite clear he is only using the DNC infrastructure to finance his campaign.
      I am not, nor is my wife afraid of some old fucking deadbeat that couldn't support his own issue and expected the tax payers to do so because he "chose" not to work.

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    2. Anonymous5:04 PM

      Blah blah blah 4:52.... you get your talking points directly from the Hillary campaign? I like how you pretend to be a man also 'nor is my wife' lol. You are obviously a woman suffering from hysterics.

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    3. Anonymous5:31 PM

      @ anon 5:04 pm
      You sound like a mommy's boy living under his mommy's skirts. Get a job and learn to be a man and then we'll talk.

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    4. Anonymous6:09 PM

      Lol troll alert at 4:01.

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    5. Anonymous6:16 PM

      I love the Bernie bros butt-hurt, self-righteous whining about the fact that Democrats dare to think they should get to decide who their nominee is. I'm not worried about Hillary losing because none of these bitch-baby Bernie fans are real Democrats anyway. They're just trolling at this point.

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    6. Anonymous6:21 PM

      Anonymous5:04 PM - Whether the poster is male or not, you DO know that it isn't only men who have wives these days, right?

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    7. Anonymous3:44 AM

      Anon at 4:01 pm. Bernie Sanders has never been a Democrat. He's always run as an "independent." He professes to be a democratic socialist. That's fine with me but it does not make him a member of the Democratic Party until, well, 2015 when he formally joined the Party for the purposes of having a place to hang his hat for this run for the presidency. There is a Socialist Party in the US; why didn't he run as one?
      Beaglemom

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  32. I'm sick of this already.
    I just want Bill Clinton and Bernie to STFU and keep their eyes on the prize and not say jacked up shit to destroy the person getting the democratic nomination. That is all.

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      Bill and Bernie don't take their marching orders from mental case women.

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    2. Anonymous4:52 PM

      There is only on Democrat running and that is Hillary.

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    3. Anon 4:14 Kiss my mental case ass and brush your teeth---I can smell your stupidity from here.

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  33. Anita Winecooler4:41 PM

    There's plenty of room in the litter box, go right ahead and clump your brains out! Till this happened, I was proud of how both candidates have run their campaigns, I'm for Hillary, but will vote Sanders if he is our nominee. In this matchup, Hillary came out ahead. Bernie sounds like his ego's bruised and needs to lash out, you know, like Donald Trump and his "All I want is to be treated fairly". I think Bernie will come back refreshed and relaxed after his trip to the Vatican.

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  34. Anonymous5:15 PM

    OT:
    http://theinfluence.org/when-women-outlive-their-ovaries-the-sexist-ads-big-pharma-has-used-to-hawk-drugs/

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  35. Anonymous5:17 PM

    Good old Bernie, doing the Republicans' dirty work for them. Fuck him, I have had it with him and his massive ego and his phony worshipers.

    People ask why old people don't like him. Old people don't like spoilers is why, they've seen plenty of them come and go. Old people know that spoilers achieve nothing but wasting everyone's time with bullshit.

    You wait and see what condition Sanders ends up in. By the time he is kicked out of the race his only friends in congress will be Republicans, he'll have alienated everyone else.

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  36. Anonymous5:43 PM

    Read up Hellary lovers...
    https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4dy1gr/hillary_clinton_uses_sandy_hook_victims_as/

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      No thanks, low info voter who uses Reddit as a reference link.

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  37. Anonymous6:11 PM

    Gryph, have you seen the news about Bernie's "Vatican visit"?

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    1. Anonymous6:16 PM

      https://storify.com/Cajsa/sanders-and-the-vatican-story

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    2. Anonymous3:56 AM

      Thank you for the link, that's amazing! I was wondering what the hell was going on with "the Pope inviting Bernie Sanders to visit the Vatican."

      Smells like Kim Davis' "private visit with the Pope."

      R in NC

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  38. Here is a link that should make all of you Hillary supporters stop and rethink your decision to support here. Please read the entire article. It should give you pause, especially you, Gryphen. http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/clintons-and-wall-street-24-years-enriching-each-other

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    1. Anonymous8:17 PM

      Richard Behan is the same guy who has been highly critical of Orrsident Obama. Pardon me if I choose not to read his February Clinton rant.

      Hey Berners: if HRC is so evil & corrupt, why did Bernie vote her in as Sec. Of State & praise her work???? Why did he support her? Please answer! Does he have good judgement or not?

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  39. Anonymous6:16 AM

    The Pope is going to tell Bernie Sanders to confess his campaign sins and leave Hillary Clinton the fuck alone.

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  40. Anonymous6:36 AM

    As powerful as the internet has become as a forum for discussion I've never seen anyone commenting on a blog or posting on facebook or twitter change anyone else's mind about the candidate they support. It just doesn't happen no matter how many links are provided to back up their argument.

    Keep up the game though. The republican primary is fucked up beyong all recognition and nothing makes them happier than the thought that they can make the democrat primary as fucked up as their own. Resorting to name-calling, i.e. BernieBro or HillaryHo is one of their oldest tricks, right out of the Lee Atwater/Karl Rove playbooks.

    Keep it up and accomplish their goal for them, setting democrat against democrat. Reducing the turnout is the only proven way they can win. All this "Oh I'll never vote for him/her now" is exactly their goal and it's slightly entertaining to see how easy it is to lead sheep to the slaughter. Only slightly.

    On almost every Palin post eventually someone will accuse someone else who has left a comment of being Sarah, Bristol, or one of their minions. If that's in fact the truth then why doesn't it occur to anyone that they do the same thing on posts about Hillary and Bernie just to stir up the shit?

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    1. Anonymous6:32 PM

      6:36 Agree wholeheartedly!

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  41. Anonymous7:51 AM

    Sarah Palin, now you can see people don't hate you just because you are a Republican. You can see people hate Bernie Sanders even though he is running to be the Democratic presidential nominee. It is not the political party people hate. People hate evil people.

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