Tuesday, May 17, 2016

Nevada Democrats warn DNC of potential violence from supporters of Bernie Sanders. Update!

Courtesy of The Big Story: 

Nevada's Democratic party on Monday warned the Democratic National Committee that Sen. Bernie Sanders' supporters have a penchant for violence and may seek to disrupt the party's national convention in July, as they did during the Nevada convention Saturday. 

The allegation is the latest fallout from a divisive Nevada Democratic convention that had to be shut down because security at the Paris Las Vegas hotel could no longer ensure order on Saturday night. The gathering closed with some Sanders supporters throwing chairs; later, some made death threats against state party chairwoman Roberta Lange.

Lange said she'd been receiving hundreds of profanity-laced calls and texts from inside and outside of the U.S., threatening her life and her family. Lange said the restaurant where she works has received so many calls it had to unplug the phone. 

"It is endless, and the longer it goes the worse it gets," Lange said in an interview. "I feel threatened everywhere I go."

Damn the Sanders supporters are starting to sound like Sarah Palin's flying monkeys.

Now I seriously doubt that the majority of Bernie Sanders supporters are violent, but I do think that once their candidate is eliminated that there is a real potential for disruption of the Democratic convention, and of course that just plays right into the hands of the Republicans.

It seems that just about everybody EXCEPT those supporting Sanders recognize that his campaign is essentially over. Including the AP: 

With only eight state primaries to go and 1,053 delegates outstanding, Clinton leads Sanders by 767 delegates. For Sanders to overtake her at the Democratic National Convention in July, Sanders would have to win a huge percentage of remaining delegates and convince a huge number of superdelegates to bolt from Clinton. 

The Associated Press views that scenario so unlikely that it is no longer covering Sanders on the campaign trail.

Add to that the newly revealed scandal concerning Jane Sanders and her time at Burlington College: 

Burlington College, a tiny Vermont liberal arts school once led by Jane Sanders, the wife of presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, said it is shutting down because of financial problems associated with a property acquisition she oversaw. 

In a formal statement announcing its closure, the school cited the “crushing weight” of debt it took on in a 2010 purchase of more than 30 acres from the local Catholic archdiocese. Mrs. Sanders was the college’s president at the time of the $10 million deal.

Well I guess that helps to explain why it has taken Jane Sanders so long to get their taxes in order and why the Sanders' campaign has received all of those letters from the FEC.

So yeah the whole Sanders' campaign is devolving into a giant clusterfuck.

And one that damages not just the Bernie Sanders campaign, but also the DNC, and of course the future of America.

Update: Oh yeah you guys really need to read this letter from the Nevada Democrats to the DNC. 

It was much worse than we have heard.

126 comments:

  1. Anonymous8:36 AM

    Jane isn't the only one with things to hide. If Sanders wins the nom he won't know what hit his sorry ass. He has NEVER been under one one hundredth the scrutiny that Clinton has and he will wilt like the hot house flower he is.

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  2. Anonymous8:41 AM

    I tell ya, hes hiding a big fat check from the GOP in those taxes...

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    1. 66gardeners9:53 AM

      Specifically Donald J. Trump

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    2. You know you're not helping.

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  3. Anonymous8:47 AM

    I wonder how much of this is generated by right wingers trying to cause mayhem?

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    1. Anonymous9:35 AM

      This.

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    2. Anonymous10:19 AM

      I thought of that too. Whatever the case, Sanders' voters do not accept the anointing of Hilary by the DNC and establishment Democrats, along with the super-delegates-- who backed Clinton BEFORE anyone else was in the running. Voters have a right to choice in a functioning democracy. The super-delegates are not required to represent the voters' choice, and they selected Hilary without voters' consent. The lack of a democratic process in the party's nomination system and the hubris and short-sightedness of its current leaders are serious shortcomings.

      For the Democratic leadership to ignore a huge swath of their party and other voters is both undemocratic and unproductive. Poll after poll shows Sanders beating Trump by a greater margin than Clinton.

      The Dem. leadership should welcome Sanders and his policies--but that would require Hilary and her advisers to distance themselves from some of her own policies and history.

      Sanders has a responsibility to the voters who endorse his policies. He's fighting to get those policies represented in the party. That is democracy working.

      The Dems have more to fear than a contentious convention or a rival philosophy among their potential voters. Attacking Sanders and his supporters will not help elect Clinton, but could help elect Trump by lowering voter turnout.

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    3. Anonymous10:32 AM

      The people in the Nevada state convention were seated delegates for Sanders, not random people.

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    4. Anonymous10:32 AM

      How about Sanders delegates stop attacking other democrats?

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    5. Anonymous10:33 AM

      Being elected does not equal being anointed. Hillary Clinton is currently being elected to be the Democratic nominee. She's doing it by getting a lot more votes. That's democracy.

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    6. Superdelegates are not new to the delegate process. If Sanders didn't know about them that's on him - maybe if he was a Democrat he would have known of their existence.
      If Bernie really wants to move his ideas forward, he would have a meeting with DWS and the DNC and cut a deal "I'll drop out but you gotta give me X, Y and Z". He has turned into the old man yelling get off my lawn and much more of this and the DNC will completely ignore him.

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    7. Anonymous10:47 AM

      Oh bull. The Supers can vote for whomever they think will win. There was no Sanders when they committed, and Hillary still has a commanding lead-what about THOSE voters? I am so tired of the Sanders people thinking because he won some caucuses and has a bunch of unruly fans that HILLARY has to cave. And frankly, I suspect many of those caucaus voters were GOP, who would rather screw with the Dems than waste their vote when it was clear Trump was going to be their representative. So spare us your whining. Hillary HAS moved left..but she will not embrace the 30 trillion in debt that Sanders' plans will cause. Seems like no one in his family has a very good head for numbers, just pie in the sky wishes.
      Sanders mad this case; he lost. Grow up.

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    8. AKRNHSNC11:44 AM

      If Hillary supporters were anything like Bernie supporters they would be screaming like banshees about the Nebraska caucus/primary debacle. Sanders won the caucus and got the delegates for it yet Hillary won the primary with FAR more voters than the caucus and is basically ignored and not given the win!! Do you hear HRC claiming she was cheated? No, because she knew ahead of time how the system worked and agreed to run under it JUST AS BERNIE SANDERS DID!! It's time for him and his supporters to grow up and accept their fate. It's quite understandable to be disappointed but it's not OK to blame the other candidate and allege lies and fraud when there is zero cause for it. Accept your losses. Hillary supporters had to do so in '08. You'll live with it, we did.

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    9. Anonymous1:37 PM

      11:44 kinda like the old cyborg queen back in '08, right?

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  4. Anonymous9:08 AM

    http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-bernie-sanders-caught-funneling-money-to/#ixzz48tVzWnII

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    1. 66gardeners10:20 AM

      WOW This piece is an eye popper

      There is a scandal involving payments from the now defunct college to a Bahamian resort.

      The pealing of Sanders' rotten onion begins.

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    2. Anonymous10:33 AM

      From the piece about the resort:

      From 2009 through 2011, when O’Meara Sanders stepped down as president of the school, it paid the Bahamian resort about $68,000, according to annual tax filings. The payments stopped the year after she left the position.

      Her departure was a source of controversy. She reportedly overstated pledged contributions to the school in order to secure a loan from the Roman Catholic Diocese of Burlington. The diocese lost between $1.5 million and $2 million on the deal, according to local reports.

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    3. Anonymous1:56 PM

      I was curious about this:

      "While she [Jane] led the school, it paid six-figure sums to her daughter..."

      I found this:

      "The Washington Free Beacon reported in January that, when Jane was president, the college also enrolled students at a woodworking school run by her daughter and spent more than half a million dollars on the endeavor, which ended not long after she left."

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/05/17/daily-202-failure-of-burlington-college-is-a-big-problem-for-bernie-and-jane-sanders/573a388c981b92a22d837b46/

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    4. Anonymous2:03 PM

      "The college also built up a woodworking program in recent years, leasing space from a school run by Sanders' daughter at an annual cost that was $182,000 in 2013."

      http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/pass-or-fail-what-happens-if-burlington-college-drops-out/Content?oid=2420094

      A school is in financial straits and the president establishes a woodworking major, conveniently run at her daughter's woodworking school? There were only a few hundred students enrolled at Burlington. How many of them paid over $20k/year tuition to be woodworking majors?

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  5. Caroll Thompson9:10 AM

    The violence by the Sanders people in Nevada remind me of what happened in Chicago in 1968. Because of that convention, the Dems lost the White House to Nixon.

    Bernie needs to at a minimum, issue a statement telling his supporters to calm down. I thought Bernie was a man of peace. Then again, one need look no further than Robespierre in the French Revolution to see how power can go to one's head. And a man of peace suddenly becomes a man of terror.

    Two primaries tonight. I am hoping Bernie does not win either of them. The Bernie folks are complaining because Oregon is a closed primary. Actually, Oregon had a ballot issue a couple of years ago asking if the primary should be opened up. The voters said no. Leave the primary closed. I guess the will of the voters is not good enough for the Sanders people.

    Go Hillary.............



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    1. 66gardeners9:52 AM

      Go Hillary...........

      Most Of Oregon’s Newly Registered Voters Won’t Be Able To Participate In The State’s Primary.

      in 2015, Oregon became the first state in the nation to automatically register voters every time they visit a Department of Motor Vehicles.

      The new “Motor Voter” policy has added more than 67,000 new voters to the state’s voter rolls, and officials are hoping Tuesday’s primary will have record turnout. The new system has especially been a boon for young voters; since September, the number of registered voters between the ages of 18 and 29 has increased 21 percent.

      Under the new DMV system, voters are automatically registered as “unaffiliated,” and later receive a form in the mail giving them the option to change their party affiliation or opt out entirely. The vast majority — 76 percent — did not take that extra step by the late April deadline, and thus can’t participate in the presidential primary. They will still be able to vote in some local races.

      Alice Ollstein
      Think Progress

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    2. Anonymous4:57 AM

      Wow carol, you mean cops were beating up protesters on BOTH sides?
      Give me a break. Here's the smelling salts.

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  6. Anonymous9:15 AM

    Yet another negative story about Bernie. And you always complained about the palin panty-sniffers.

    I just dropped in to see that latest hit..

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    1. Anonymous9:46 AM

      loser

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    2. Anon 9:15 am: And yet, it was Berniebros; who rioted like the Trumpanzees that they are. Stay classy Bernie supporters.

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    3. Anonymous10:09 AM

      GET FUCKING REAL!

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    4. Anonymous10:34 AM

      Delegates throwing chairs at a State convention, cursing and booing a progressive Senator, and making death threats against a Democratic official. I think that's a negative story that's worth talking about.

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    5. Anonymous12:02 PM

      Palin lives in her own quicksand filled with oil and excrement. Must suck dick to be running out of handouts. To bad. Someday she will sink and drag down many with her. That will be a glory day.

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  7. Anonymous9:20 AM

    *
    Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton defended staying in the Democratic nominating contest on Friday by pointing out that her husband had not wrapped up the nomination until June 1992, adding, “We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California.”

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    1. You stick this in on every thread about the Sanders' campaign. I guess in your imagination it will somehow change the facts.

      It won't.

      By the way as tone deaf as that statement was by Hillary Clinton considering that Obama was going to be the first African American Democratic nominee for President, nobody seriously thinks she was actually calling for his assassination.

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    2. Anonymous10:37 AM

      9:20
      Don't worry, Gryphen is secure in the notion that he knows how to piss off the trolls whom he allows to display their ignorance here.

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    3. Anonymous10:50 AM

      Go Gryph!

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    4. Anonymous1:35 PM

      And You can't have it both ways. The internets are forever, remember?


      But hey, she is not actually SAYING she wants anything to happen. At least not in front of the camera.
      Posted by Gryphen at 7:59 AM

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  8. Anonymous9:30 AM

    Because no one gave him an ounce of thought BERNIE was not VETTED properly at the beginning, on top of the fact the he wasn't even a Democrat. The speech that he gives is the exact same speech he's given on MSNBC for the last 5-6 years...nothing different! The Repubs want him to be the candidate because they will tear him limb to limb, and right now he may be up in the general election for beating tRUMP that poll number will disappear fast!

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    1. Anonymous9:44 AM

      +1000 Bernie Sanders AND Donald Trump weren't taken seriously and they snuck in under the radar

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    2. Anonymous10:01 AM

      9:30 > BS is Like a stuck vinyl record...

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  9. 66gardeners9:32 AM

    A handful of high-level staffers have left Bernie Sanders’ campaign in recent weeks, including his director of technology and three of the four members of his original senior leadership team in California — a state his team has said is critical to his bid for the Democratic nomination.

    The moves come at a time of contraction for the campaign, which let go of hundreds of field staffers earlier this month amid slowed fundraising.

    Gabriel Debenedetti
    Politico

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  10. 66gardeners9:36 AM

    Off Topic but noteworthy

    Republicans wanted to make a Tuesday hearing in the House all about how White House messaging guru Ben Rhodes, who refused to testify, supposedly sold a false narrative about the Iran nuclear deal.

    Instead, Democrats used the presence of another witness, former Bush administration official John Hannah, to hammer the Bush administration for allegedly peddling a false narrative about the Iraq War.


    Nahal Toosi
    Politico

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  11. 66gardeners9:39 AM

    Re: The House's Iran/Iraq hearing today:
    Chaffetz also had invited Sen. Tom Cotton, a vociferous critic of the nuclear agreement, to testify after White House press secretary Josh Earnest had basically dared him to. But Cotton agreed to appear only if Rhodes showed up, so the senator also wasn't present.

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  12. Anonymous9:39 AM

    Those two effing socialists needs to put a cork in it.

    THEY ARE GOING TO GET SOMEONE KILLED!

    Remember the video Gryphen posted of the Bernie fanatics playing ring a round the rosy with the dog while chanting? Well those are the sane Bernie Sanders's voters.

    Call in more Secret Service

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  13. Anonymous9:41 AM

    I worry more about misguided Democrats who are trying to drive Independents away by being overzealous Clinton supporters.

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    1. 66gardeners10:27 AM

      get some critical thinking skills

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    2. Anonymous10:36 AM

      I worry more about Sanders supporters who throw chairs and make death threats.

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    3. Anonymous10:45 AM

      Such as and whatnot? Clinton rallies have had no violence so far.

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    4. Anonymous10:50 AM

      Oh, so now if we support Hillary we're 'over zealous?' Sorry, but I have never struck another person in my life, thrown anything at anyone, or threatened them in phone calls.

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    5. Anonymous1:11 PM

      I worry more about Clinton's male supporters pulling a Track Palin.

      http://nypost.com/2016/05/15/wendell-pierce-arrested-for-allegedly-hitting-bernie-sanders-supporter/

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    6. Anonymous2:05 PM

      You worry more about one dumbass Clinton supporter getting into a drunken fight than about a roomful of Sanders official delegates cursing out Democratic officials and throwing chairs?

      I doubt it.

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    7. Anonymous4:52 AM

      There were No Chairs Thrown.
      Last time I checked, cussing never physically hurt anyone. Maybe hurt some sensitive christians? Umm, cussing doesn't bother me. I'm an adult, and an atheist.
      No chairs thrown. Please check out The Young Turks. Or not, it may scare you with some REAL news for progressives. Better stay with your corporate-donor-owned networks. They'll be sure to tell you who to hate on, and keep you in your place.

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  14. Here's a couple of links to share if you have friends (like I do) that are screaming "Democracy was stifled in Nevada! They brought in the police to silence any dissenting voice! I'm not going to vote in November - why should I bother, my vote will be stolen by the corrupt party!".


    It’s a long read but provides a lot of context.

    https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sour-grapes-revolution-rocked-paris-hotel

    He also followed up with this report which Gryph referenced above.. The embedded letter describes very well what occurred:

    https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/nv-democrats-file-complaint-against-sanders-campaign-dnc


    This source lays out the narrative of what happened a little more straight-forwardly:

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/16/1526972/-Why-hasn-t-Sanders-disavowed-the-undemocratic-and-unethical-acts-committed-in-his-name-this-weekend

    And this local NPR story is good also:

    http://knpr.org/knpr/2016-05/after-unruly-democratic-convention-shut-down-whats-next-party

    Actually, the biggest take-away I am getting from doing this research is ... caucuses are the least democratic way to elect a candidate I have ever seen. At least under these 1st, 2nd and 3rd tier rules with the voters only getting to directly participate in the first. At least, that's how it seems to me.

    Anybody want to talk me down? I'm up for it right now.

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    1. Anonymous10:18 AM

      "the fact that Sanders has not uttered a single syllable denouncing the outrageous, unethical and anti-democratic actions that were taken in his name is inexcusable."

      Quote from the daily's

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    2. Anonymous10:28 AM

      it's a waste of time. Bernie is just about bust

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    3. Anonymous10:29 AM

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      @9:51
      Well,according to this source,there were some,shall we say "irregularities"?
      Please do take a moment to read Erin Bilbray's account of what she experienced there.
      http://www.inquisitr.com/3099586/nevada-delegates-excluded-from-state-democratic-convention-had-registration-status-changed/#clRxma8XZpU7HSjO.99

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    4. Anonymous11:24 AM

      No, there were no irregularities.

      What a shoddily-written article.

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    5. Anonymous11:52 AM

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      @11:24
      Your critique of the whole article aside,specifically what did you think of Erin Bilbray's statement?

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    6. Anonymous1:24 PM

      That "closed door meeting" mentioned in the article was the rules committee made up of three Clinton delegates and three Sanders delegates.

      Bilbray's statement was made during the convention, when there was a lot of misinformation being spread and a lot of unjustified anger among Sanders delegates. Bilbray thought it was unfair based on what? The anger among Sanders supporters? Again, based on what? Misinformation about the process and the rules.

      They came to the convention thinking they had flipped the caucus in favor of their candidate (thereby robbing the actual voters). When they found out their shenanigans didn't fly, all hell broke loose.

      After the convention, we learned that no rules were changed and, in fact, the Sanders people had tried to flip the caucus at the county conventions. That's where the real irregularities occurred.

      Most of the 64 Sanders delegates deemed ineligible didn't even show up for the convention. Out of the eight that did, six were seated.

      The author of the article suggests there is some conspiracy to purge Sanders voters/delegates.

      And, by the way, Bilbray was one of the ones saying the convention was run using "Roberta's rules" rather than "Robert's rules," thereby laying blame on Lange and reinforcing her as a target for the horde. That's poor judgement on her part, especially as a person who is an "advocate for women in public service."

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  15. Anonymous9:59 AM

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    Here's some food for thought.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/opinion/campaign-stops/how-many-people-support-trump-but-dont-want-to-admit-it.html

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    1. Anonymous10:28 AM

      quit eating junk food fat ass

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    2. Anonymous10:50 AM

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      @10:28
      Really?
      Did you read the link?
      Some of the same sources Gryphen has cited in posts here are quoted in the article.
      An open mind is like a parachute,it only works properly when open.

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    3. Anonymous12:08 PM

      From your article:

      Poll results (irrespective of whether questions are posed online or by phone) can change quite a bit depending on their exact wording, the specific issues addressed and even the placement of a query in a series of questions.

      So online polls mean nothing unless you reveal the above.

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    4. Anonymous12:45 PM

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      @12:08
      Thanks for reading it and commenting.
      My reason for bringing it was to share the way polls are done and the different outcomes.Several respected "pollsters" were cited in the article and have been cited here on posts in this blog.
      The term "Food for thought" is generally recognized as "hey check this out".
      And for the record I abhor junk food and sodas and ain't anywhere near "fat".

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    5. Anonymous1:48 PM

      The article doesn't say if the same people are being polled by phone and online. If not the same exact people, then the "same" in terms of demographics across the boards. That's an actual test of "social desirability." Instead, we likely have two distinct groups, with some potential overlap. How much is unclear.

      Here's an article on 538 which shows why live polling is more predictive than internet polling. It also talks about why social desirability isn't the reason for the disparity for Trump:

      http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-future-of-polling-may-depend-on-donald-trumps-fate/


      So, the conclusion that Trump does better on internet polls than phone polls is due to social desirability is questionable.

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  16. Anonymous10:02 AM

    Listen to him whine.

    Trump: I'm ‘Misquoted’ In Pro-Clinton Ad Featuring My Remarks On Women (VIDEO)

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-bashes-priorities-usa-women-comments-ad

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    1. AKRNHSNC1:17 PM

      Sure he is! Trump has whined and complained even when confronted with video and complains it's being taken out of context when it's clearly not and the entire message is shown. Trump has the emotional mentality of a 2 year old!

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  17. Anonymous10:03 AM

    Calling from Burlington, VT. This is such bullshit and blatantly an attempt to discredit Sanders. Burlington College has been in dire financial straits for 2 decades now and the whole land acquisition under Jane Sanders was a well-meaning attempt to grow the college's enrollment and facilities, something all presidents of small liberal arts colleges are constantly working on. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Also, do you really think she brokered this deal all by herself? Of course not. A president of such a small institution, or any size of college for that matter, has no real say in these matters. That's what the Board of Trustees is for. The other very strange part of this is the People's Bank pulling the line of credit, which ultimately is what has caused the college to close down. Guess who Peoples Bank is connected to - that's right, Goldman Sachs. The whole thing stinks to high heaven!

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    1. Anonymous10:25 AM

      Heidi Suzanne Cruz < teddy's wife
      IS the investment manager at Goldman Sachs.

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    2. Anonymous10:30 AM

      Here is the low down on how that college went bankrupt and Jane is looking pretty damn crooked. This link was provided above. Very worth reading.

      http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-bernie-sanders-caught-funneling-money-to/

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    3. Anonymous11:04 AM

      @10:25
      "Heidi Suzanne Cruz < teddy's wife
      IS the investment manager at Goldman Sachs."
      Was.

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    4. Anonymous11:07 AM

      Jane Sanders overstated donation amounts in loan application for Burlington College

      http://vtdigger.org/2015/09/13/jane-sanders-overstated-donation-amounts-in-loan-application-for-burlington-college/#comments

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    5. Anonymous12:10 PM

      This was after Sanders used tuition money to send students to the Bahamian resort that his friend bought. This practice of ending students discontinued when Jane left.

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    6. It's not recent news that Jane Sanders left Burlington College under a cloud. But that concerns me less than her use of the royal "we" when she speaks confidently of Bernie's imaginary presidency.

      "WE will do this and WE will do that," she says emphatically, as if she envisions herself as future co-president.

      I can't recall any other aspiring First Lady speaking so presumptuously. Jane Sanders is clearly a bright and determined woman, but she's tainted with arrogance. She should run for office herself, because riding Bernie's coat tails isn't going to get her much farther.

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  18. Anonymous10:06 AM

    The reason why Bernie Sanders's rallies and the Nevada convention had problems is because look who he is pandering to with free college, forgive college debt, $15 minimum wage and rainbows for everybody. Those violent people are college kids. Where did Sanders hold his rallies in the states he already campaigned in? In California he is hitting up all the college towns and cities. That is Sanders only hope to the Democratic presidential nominee. College kids!

    Look at Trump's rallies, Trump and his followers are either violent or speak of violence.

    Hillary Clinton's rallies are the only sane ones. Has anybody had to stop her rallies? Throw chairs? Hit people who are being ejected?

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    1. Anonymous10:40 AM

      The delegates who were the worst behaved in the convention, from what I could see, were middle aged white men, not college students.

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    2. Anonymous12:04 PM

      Seeing how no one really shows up at her rallies, it's kind of hard to gauge. She doesn't really inspire passion or....anything, does she? Just more of the same old shit, but New! Improved! With Vagina! What an incredibly weak, bland candidate she is.

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    3. Anonymous1:10 PM

      Nope, Clinton supporters are all sane as can be they would never get violent.

      http://nypost.com/2016/05/15/wendell-pierce-arrested-for-allegedly-hitting-bernie-sanders-supporter/

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    4. Anonymous3:28 PM

      Clinton supporters are passionate where it counts...VOTING!!

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  19. Anonymous10:12 AM

    O/T

    Last night on her show Megyn Kelly said 85% of her interactions with Trump have been "quite dark and unpleasant".

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    1. Anonymous11:49 AM

      http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/megyn-kelly-trump-is-trying-to-do-my-job-for-me-and-then-claiming-credit-for-my-success/

      and wants her- Megan to PAY him- dRumpf.

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  20. Anonymous10:22 AM

    Imagine if the nominees are Trump and Sanders, their retards would be facing off at the presidential debates. God help us.

    WWE, MMA and redneck bar fights has nothing over what's going to happen at those presidential debates.

    Close your eyes and picture this, Trump and Sanders are on stage behind their podiums protected by electric chain link fence to protect them from beer bottles, violent hooligans, chairs, shoes and whatnots.

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    1. Anonymous10:39 AM

      Don't forget the stripper poles, lap dances and open bar.

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  21. Anonymous10:31 AM

    Anybody surprised by the violence? Sanders's delinquents are repeating and are egged on by Bernie Sanders's whining that the Democratic closed primaries, superdelegates and other things those crybabies are unhappy with are unfair. Only one thing to say, "Why the fuc_ did Sanders join the Democratic Party prior to announcing his candidacy?"

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    1. Anonymous11:20 AM

      I'm with you on this one. Why join if he didn't like it?

      Maybe he's too clueless to know how the system works and doesn't care to learn.

      Also why the heck did the DNC let him run as a Democrat if he isn't one? Don't they have rules for that?

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    2. Anonymous1:08 PM

      If you're so concerned about violence why aren't you concerned about what has actually taken place?

      http://nypost.com/2016/05/15/wendell-pierce-arrested-for-allegedly-hitting-bernie-sanders-supporter/

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    3. Anonymous2:18 PM

      Thank heavens for Wendell Pierce. He gave you the opportunity to produce a false equivalency that in no way counters what happened in Nevada.

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  22. Anonymous10:41 AM

    The Sanders close to half of a millions dollars taking a family vacation on a private flight to Rome burning gallons of fuel just hours after attacking Hillary Clinton on climate change. Burnt Bernie goes Bust

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  23. Anonymous10:43 AM


    Dems' new fear: Sanders revolt could upend Democratic convention

    (CNN)Sen. Barbara Boxer, a veteran of Democratic politics, says she never saw anything quite like this before.

    Loud cursing, shouting, obscene gestures and vile insults, including crude comments about the female anatomy. It was all on display over the weekend as supporters of Bernie Sanders turned the Nevada State Democratic Convention into chaos.

    Read more at
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/democrat-bernie-sanders-revolt/

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    1. Anonymous11:08 AM

      I hope Boxer called up Sanders and gave him an earful. They've known each other a long time and worked many time together.

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    2. Anonymous11:29 AM

      *
      Y'all piss and moan saying the "same people" follow Sanders around to his rallys...
      Silly question:
      What was Boxer doing in a state other than her own shilling for Hillary?
      Oh wait...
      http://news.muckety.com/2015/01/08/how-exactly-are-barbara-boxer-and-hillary-clinton-related/47721
      Never mind.

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    3. Anonymous11:42 AM

      11:08> more like seeing him for WHO he REALLY is. SAD and now dangerous to the mission.

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    4. Anonymous3:32 PM

      Boxer was there from California representing Clinton.

      Nina turner was there from Ohio representing Sanders.

      Does that answer your question?

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  24. Anonymous10:49 AM

    Huffington Post:
    Bernie Sanders Supporters Unleash Sexist, Nasty Attacks On Nevada’s Dem Chair

    Read some of the texts and listen to the voicemails Roberta Lange has received.

    See Huffington Post

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  25. Anonymous10:57 AM

    I want to know why Bernie and Jane Sanders haven't come out against the actions of his supporters?

    Like I've said before, I liked Bernie in the beginning, but no longer.

    Are he and Jane trying to split the Democratic Party in this upcoming election? Are they really truly pro Trump and anti Clinton? What is going on behind the scenes? Remember, Bernie joined the Democratic party even though saying he was not a Democrat but a Socialist!

    Plus, Bernie is the one that used the word 'revolution' and it appears his followers have taken him literally!

    Time for Bernie to bow out. He's disgraced himself horribly!

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  26. Anonymous10:57 AM

    I’m a Bernie supporter through and through but find this behavior unacceptable.

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    1. Anonymous11:09 AM

      Doesn't it bother you that he hasn't come out and condemned the disruptive and violent behavior of his own delegates at a State convention?

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    2. Anonymous12:26 PM

      I do, and it appears there are some really big negatives with Bernie at the helm. As a lifelong Dem I intend to support Hillary Clinton at the polls. Donald Trump is freaking terrifying.

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  27. Anonymous10:59 AM

    Good letter. Worth the time to read it.

    Here is the crux of the FACTS regarding the so-called stolen delegates.

    Bypartisan group, half-and-half, included one Sanders' staffer, threw out some Clinton delegates. A lot of the Sanders delegates weren't even registered to vote Democrat.

    "Never mind that six of the 64 potential Sanders delegates referenced had been seated after investigation, or that most of the remaining 58 potential delegates had been disqualified—appropriately, and by a panel evenly split between the campaigns—for not being registered Democratic voters in Nevada. Never mind that the same Credentials Committee had disqualified Clinton delegates for various reasons as well. Never mind, further, that just eight of those 64 potential Sanders delegates even attempted to register for the State Convention.

    All that mattered was the creation of a narrative of fraud and dispossession, which the Sanders Campaign fomented intentionally for its own political gain. This was an unconscionable act by an official Sanders Campaign representative, with full knowledge of its likely impact on the convention."

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    1. Anonymous11:11 AM

      Clinton won the popular vote in the NV Caucus. The Sanders delegates tried to steal it during the county caucus phase. Then, they got pissed off when they were thwarted at the State level.

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    2. Anonymous11:59 AM

      Time for Bernie to suspend his campaign. I can tell from reading the posts here that I'm not the only "former" Bernie supporter that is now totally for Hillary.

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  28. Anonymous11:06 AM

    Not Long Ago, Bernie Sanders’ Wife Was College President. Now the School’s Closing Under ‘Crushing Weight of Debt.’

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/05/17/not-long-ago-bernie-sanders-wife-was-college-president-now-the-schools-closing-under-crushing-weight-of-debt/

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  29. Sanders supporters just do not seem to want to understand party rules & abide by them when they are pointed out to them. For cryin' out loud, they think it is "voter suppression" to expect one to be a registered Democrat to vote in a Democratic Party primary! That some of their delegates wouldn't even bother to register as dems doesn't surprise me at all.

    In 2004, I, a registered independent voter at the time, phone banked & worked to defeat GWB by supporting John Kerry. That got me on a lot of lists and even a phone call from my state Democratic Party asking if I wished to be a delegate to the nation convention in 2008. I was flattered and would have loved to attend, but, alas, I wasn't a Dem then and I told them so. They thanked me for my help and found someone else.

    If I had the attitude of these Bernie supporters, I'd have jumped at the chance & showed up at the nat'l convention to be turned away at the door as an outsider. As. I. Should. Have.

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  30. Anonymous11:20 AM

    *
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWt4aCTRG0&feature=youtu.be

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  31. Anonymous11:21 AM

    Internet:
    Featured:Bernie Sanders Promises to Legalize Marijuana At Puerto Rico Rally-Green Rush Daily-19 hours ago


    I'm voting for Bernie

    Promises to legalize marijuana
    Free college
    No debts
    Beer bongs
    Hookah bongs
    Everybody makes the same wages
    Bj from his wife

    Everybody wears the same color pants and shirts so no one feels bad

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  32. Anonymous11:23 AM

    One final comment before I head off to read all the linked articles.

    Why hasn't Bernie spoken out against the violence? Even if he believed their hearts were in the right place, he could and should say that violence in never an appropriate way to achieve goals.

    Unless of course, violence is his way to achieve his goals.

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    1. Anonymous1:21 PM

      I heard on TV about an hour ago that he had finally made a statement. I can't believe it took this long.

      I also heard the tail end of something so can't speak accurately here. But it was something about Bernie's people having been told to "take over" the Nevada convention. I don't know who supposedly said to take it over and what those words, when said, were supposed to really mean.

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  33. Anonymous11:34 AM

    Facts:

    --The would-be Bernie delegates in question were ineligible. Most didn't even bother to show up, so their names were (fairly) thrown out by the Nevada DNC. The same happened to a few Hillary delegates also. It was a reasonable and accurate decision to refuse them, made by an equal panel of BOTH Sanders and Clinton delegates.

    --Bernie supporters love to say he's "ahead in the polls against Trump," but any good political hack will tell you that's because Bernie has had zero attacks and has not yet been fully vetted.

    So, let's vet him, shall we? Here are a few things about Bernie that make him unelectable, and which Trump and FOX News will eat him alive for:

    --Despite his protests, Bernie DOES accept money from PACs and is a regular guest at fancy fundraising luncheons with Rockefellers and other billionaires.
    --Despite saying he's anti-war, he has voted, in many cases, for the same legislation or actions that Hillary has. Moreover, he actively sought and won a huge contract for the notorious F35 fighter jet to be built in his home state of Vermont. This was one of his few legislative accomplishments and is a prime example of the kind of pork and wasteful defense spending he so often decries.
    --His first fulltime job was at **31 years old** when he was elected mayor of Burlington by a tiny margin of protest voters. Prior to that he worked odd jobs. He has never earned a living wage outside of government (just like Paul Ryan!).
    --He holds no law or graduate degree, unlike almost every other major Presidential candidate (including Trump!).
    --His legislative record is so bad that he scores below the mean of every single objective measure of effectiveness.
    --In the 1970s he was known for writing wacko rants in local newspapers, some of which were sexually explicit and contained joking references to rape and incest.
    --His wife's financial mismanagement of Burlington College ultimately caused that college to be closed this year.
    --He has refused, just like Trump, to actively disavow the violence, threats, and open misogyny of his supporters. A few months ago he gave a little bit of lip service to it and said people should knock it off, but since then he's done nothing to stop it. When he was asked about the events in Nevada, he turned his back on reporters and walked away without a word.

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    1. Anonymous1:06 PM

      You need to put those right wing rags down and pay attention.

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    2. Anonymous5:47 PM

      Actually, my sources for the above are MotherJones, a liberal think tank, and Salon.

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  34. Anonymous12:07 PM

    *
    Were there any arrests for assault of any kind at the NV deal?
    All this whiney dopey chatter about "violence"...
    Where's the beef?

    Like this:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/15/wendell-pierce-of-the-wire-arrested-after-fight-over-bernie-sanders.html

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    1. Anonymous1:05 PM

      Exactly. He reports on *potential* violence by Bernie supporters but when it comes to a Clinton supporter punching an innocent woman in the head, it's all crickets. He's sooo unbiased!

      http://nypost.com/2016/05/15/wendell-pierce-arrested-for-allegedly-hitting-bernie-sanders-supporter/

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  35. Does anybody else start to get a little dizzy listening and watching Sanders talk with that poking finger...?

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  36. Something about Bernie Sanders is inciting violence in people. And his campaign is now definitely hurting the Democratic Party. He needs to renounce the violence, tell his followers that the Democratic Party is maybe not perfect, but has done most of the good things in this country........if he does not do this then I have lost all respect for him and I would advocate that my state and all others abandon the caucus system and switch to a primary. I was involved in the caucus and state conventions in my state, and we were so overwhelmed by Bernie supporters that it made our jobs really difficult and of course there were delays and snafus due to the sheer numbers. Then the Bernie supporters accused those of us who were putting the events on as purposely using delay tactics.........they tend to see anti-Bernie conspiracies in everything. I always enjoyed caucusing, but it is not worth these pain-in-the-ass bullying Bernie supporters. Many of them are fine, but the trouble makers are attacking good people who have done nothing but volunteer their time and tried to change our state and country for the better. In our state, Bernie got 80% of the delegates, but they are mad about that and want 100%. I've never seen such "sore winners" in my life! How and why Bernie Sanders is turning the youth of this country against the Democratic Party is a mystery to me. I just ran into a woman last night who is big in the local Democratic Party, she even sometimes calls herself a Socialist. She began getting bullying phone calls from Bernie supporters even though she isn't a superdelegate, and ended up not going to the convention because of it.

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  37. Anonymous12:39 PM

    Read Shanksville<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<the Bern's statement.

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  38. Anonymous1:04 PM

    Sanders unimpressed with the letter and refuses to be brought to heel by the Dem Establishment:

    “Within the last few days there have been a number of criticisms made against my campaign organization. Party leaders in Nevada, for example, claim that the Sanders campaign has a ‘penchant for violence.’ That is nonsense.”

    “If the Democratic Party is to be successful in November, it is imperative that all state parties treat our campaign supporters with fairness and the respect that they have earned. I am happy to say that has been the case at state conventions in Maine, Alaska, Colorado and Hawaii where good discussions were held and democratic decisions were reached. Unfortunately, that was not the case at the Nevada convention. At that convention the Democratic leadership used its power to prevent a fair and transparent process from taking place."


    Full statement here:
    https://berniesanders.com/press-release/statement-nevada/

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    1. Anonymous2:15 PM

      What a bunch of shit. It's already been established that no rules were changed and that, in fact, the Sanders delegates didn't understand the rules.

      Whoever wrote this for Sanders has questionable integrity.

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  39. Anonymous1:08 PM

    http://www.salon.com/2016/05/17/bernie_bros_out_of_control_explosion_of_misogynist_rage_at_nevadas_dem_chairwoman_reflects_terribly_on_sanders_dwindling_campaign/

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  40. Anonymous1:19 PM

    Bernie does not condone violence, and said so. These actions were produced by HRC supporters to make Sanders look bad. Typical hardball by the Clintons. No doubt Wasserman/Schultz is involved also, she is a political hack for HRC.

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    1. Anonymous2:16 PM

      These were Sanders delegates at the convention cursing and throwing chairs. That an indisputable fact.

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    2. Anonymous2:17 PM

      Yeah, because HRC supporters somehow got themselves elected as Sanders delegates so they could curse at Barbara Boxer and throw chairs just to make Sanders look bad.

      I don't think you have a clue what's going on.

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    3. Anonymous2:34 PM

      Right, you and G claim Bernie is ordering this crap. You are full of shit!

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    4. Anonymous3:33 PM

      I don't think he's ordering it. I do think he's doing nothing to discourage it.

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  41. Anonymous1:35 PM

    What happened at the Nevada Convention

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_7c0I8ODKw

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  42. Anonymous1:57 PM

    I think it is time to stop the ridiculous caucuses.
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous2:21 PM

      Aint it the truth?!

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  43. Anonymous2:27 PM

    Sanders issues belligerent statement after followers threaten to kill NV party chair

    Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders issued an angry statement today, that appeared to belittle and make excuses for death threats, and violence, from his supporters at the Nevada Democratic Convention a few days ago.

    Concerns are growing among Democrats that Sanders and his extremist supporters may willingly bring the same violence to the national Democratic convention this summer.

    Sanders’ supporters were unhappy that several of their delegates were turned away from the convention because they weren’t registered as Democrats, a requirement of the convention. Several of Hillary Clinton’s delegates were also not permitted to enter, for similar reasons. More on the procedural details here. And there’s much more from local political reporter Jon Ralston about what really happened, and how it was Sanders’ supporters who created the riot.

    The Sanders supporters, unlike the Clinton supporters, caused a near riot as a result, and forced security to shut the convention down after it was no longer believed safe.

    Following the raucous event, Sanders supporters then published the private cell phone number of the state party chair, who then received death threats.

    Lots of them.

    http://americablog.com/2016/05/sanders-issues-angry-statement-defending.html

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  44. Anonymous3:11 PM


    Trump Would Dismantle Most Of Dodd-Frank, Meet With North Korea If President
    He also wants to renegotiate the Paris climate accord.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-kim-jong-un_us_573b86f2e4b0aee7b8e83308

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  45. Anonymous5:38 PM

    Anonymous 11:21 AM! Thank You! I cannot stop laughing! { Had a rather difficult day!} And thank you Gryphen for your,
    keeping me sane, blog!

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  46. Anonymous7:54 AM

    As an independent Bernie fan for many years, I say "Bernie, it's time for you to acknowledge reality and STOP. THE. INSANITY." If he does not then HE alone will be the reason for a president dRUMPf.

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