Monday, May 09, 2016

Well you knew this was coming, Donald Trump accuses Hillary Clinton of wanting to abolish the 2nd Amendment.

Courtesy of Crossroads Today: 

Donald Trump on Saturday accused likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton of wanting to abolish the right of Americans to legally own guns. 

"Hillary Clinton wants to abolish the Second Amendment," Trump said at a rally here. "Hillary Clinton wants to take your guns away and she wants to abolish the Second Amendment." 

Trump's wild claim comes on the heels of an unrelenting barrage of attacks the newly minted presumptive Republican nominee has fired off against Clinton in recent days. 

Clinton has never argued for abolishing the Second Amendment but has called for universal background checks and stricter controls on firearms. 

Trump also accused Clinton of wanting "to take your bullets away" and vowed he would protect the constitutional right to bear arms.

This is the battle that Hillary Clinton has been expecting. That is why stricter gun control laws are a center piece of her campaign.

First we have to face the fact that single issue 2nd Amendments types were NEVER going to vote for Hillary Clinton anyway. And then we have to recognize that this is a rather obvious move on Trump's part to drum up support from the Ammosexuals.

However whether this rather courageous position brings out more progressives to support her is yet to be seen, even though it demonstrates a willingness to continue President Obama's policy battle to create a safer environment for our children who are still dying by the hundreds every year from gun violence.


  1. From the article, quoting Crossroads Today: "Hillary Clinton wants to abolish the Second Amendment," Trump said at a rally here.

    Once again, Trump seems to think that the President can do things that only Congress can do.

    "Hillary Clinton wants to take your guns away …

    People have been saying that about President Obama for eight years. Anyone who might fall for that, already has!

  2. Anonymous1:22 PM

    Yeah he does. ACCUSE.

    Another accusation with NO back-up. He is a bag of hot air. Where are the EXAMPLES of how HC is going to "abolish the second amendment?"

    There ARE none, of course. The tRump campaign leaves nothing but horseshit in it's trail. I'm calling HORSESHIT on Trump. Prove me wrong, I double dog dare ya Donald.

  3. Anonymous1:26 PM

    I will not be voting for HC. The more I look at her, the more disgusted I become. I had thought, "Whatever, in the end, I'll just vote for her just to vote against T-Rump." But I can't do it.

    Flame away!

    1. Anonymous1:49 PM

      New: Sanders economic plan adds 18 trillion to federal debt.

    2. "Flame away!"
      You're not worth the match.

    3. Anonymous2:58 PM

      1:49pm - I've seen at least one Sanders supporter/Clinton critic pass that link along on twitter. They're also starting to ease up on the anti-Clinton stuff so it seems reality is setting in for some.

    4. Anonymous5:38 PM

      Nobody is going to beg for your vote. Do whatever you want?

    5. Anonymous6:20 PM

      Thanks for the notification. Hope you feel better. Now run along.

  4. Anonymous1:27 PM

    Hillary's position alone on gun control should be enough to convince the people who hate her cause of Wall St to vote for her.

    1. Anonymous2:05 PM

      You'd think so, but evidently purity politics and "2016 progressivism" doesn't include gun control. That's what 2016 Sanders supporters have taught me.

  5. Anonymous1:32 PM

    **On Federal Gun Control**

    [Blanket rules set by the federal government on guns "doesn't make sense."]( - 2008

    [Another source]( - 2008


    [Clinton proposes using executive action as president to expand background check requirements]( - 2015

    **On Gun Ownership and Culture**

    [Gun ownership, hunting "part of culture. It’s part of a way of life."]( - 2008

    But wait!

    [Clinton said Tuesday that gun culture in the U.S. has become "way out of balance."]( - 2014

    1. "[Gun ownership, hunting "part of culture. It’s part of a way of life."]"
      [Clinton said Tuesday that gun culture in the U.S. has become "way out of balance."
      So? These statements are not in conflict with each other.

      As for differences between 2008 and 2015, the unchecked fanaticism of the 2nd amendment cultists was not as evident in 2008.

      I don't find anything particularly admirable in having one viewpoint on a topic and never ever budging, changing, or adapting when faced with life, experiences, other people's viewpoints, or simply more information.

    2. Anonymous2:23 PM

      "I don't find anything particularly admirable in having one viewpoint on a topic and never ever budging, changing, or adapting when faced with life, experiences, other people's viewpoints, or simply more information."
      That's Hillary speak.

    3. Anonymous5:39 PM

      So sanders still thinks girls need to have sex to avoid cancer and if they do get cancer it's their fault because they didn't have sex?

    4. "Anonymous2:23 PM
      That's Hillary speak.
      Thank you. You made my point exactly.

  6. Anonymous1:34 PM

    My vote will go to Hillary Clinton! Trump is a friggin' liar and bully with a despicable personality!

    He does NOT represent the majority in America and will be the losing candidate IF he gets the nomination!

    1. Anonymous2:03 PM

      You don't know that.

    2. Anonymous2:35 PM

      2:03 You're gonna be awfully disappointed when reality hits.

    3. Anonymous2:36 PM

      He will lose big time! Every time I watch TV there's another Republican bashing him -- even on Fox!

    4. Anonymous2:50 PM

      Do the math, 2:03 PM! Trump doesn't have the majority. He's going to lose big time IF he gets the nomination.

    5. Anonymous3:10 PM

      By the time Trump even understands what it is that a president does all day he will be ready to fire himself. Like Sara, all he is equipped for is pageant waving.

      Nevertheless, the media will prop him up because their paychecks depend on it.

      Imagine what the debates are going to be like.

    6. Anonymous3:11 PM

      Do the math? What math? There is no real math on something that far out. One thing is for sure though, Trump is going to steamroll Hillary and he won't let up.

      And it is going to be so much fun to watch.

    7. Anonymous3:18 PM

      3:11 -the math is 4.7% of Americans have voted for him so far. Get it yet?

    8. Anonymous3:31 PM

      Veteran GOP pollster predicts Clinton over Trump:

    9. Anonymous3:44 PM

      He will be elected, he will last approximately 1 year before being impeached and then forced to resign.

      What will come of this is a new political system, a new party system and a rethinking of who we allow to run for the highest office in the land.

      We can no longer just let anyone throw their hat in the ring, the Trump Presidency will force America to make new rules regarding eligibility and will force new tests placed upon candidates to prove mental and intelligence suitability for even thinking of running for POTUS.

      It needs to happen. Let it happen and then we'll all be stronger for it.

    10. Anonymous3:52 PM

      3:11 you're quite amusing. Keep the comedy coming! Lol.

    11. Anonymous4:04 PM

      We can make new rules with a Democratic president in the Oval Office in Jan 2017. And we will!

    12. Anonymous6:49 PM

      3:18, exactly zero people have voted in the general, get it dumbass?

      There is a lot of ground to cover between now and the general, and Trump is on the rise, and Hillary is getting knocked back on her fat cankles.

    13. Anonymous6:52 PM

      lol. What new rules do you think you are going to make 4:04? This should be good and dumb.

    14. Anonymous8:28 PM

      The low info Hillary-bashers on this thread - lol

    15. Anonymous11:50 PM

      Hey 'do the math' 2:50 and 3:18 Hillary lover morons.... don't you IMers all think nate Silver is the god of predictions...

      Ouch. It has to suck to be so stupid like you guys.

  7. 1992: If Bill Clinton is elected, they're gonna come and take all your guns away.

    1996: If Bill Clinton is elected again, they're gonna come and take all your guns away.

    2008: If Barack Obama is elected, they're gonna come and take all your guns away.

    2012: If Barack Obama is elected again, they're gonna come and take all your guns away.

    2016: If Hillary Clinton is elected, they're gonna come and take all your guns away.

    It was never true, but it sure sold a lot of guns.

    1. Anonymous6:25 PM

      My small city of 50,000 just hired another person to help with the rash of CC permits they have to deal with. For crips sakes people, one gun is enough, and frankly, I don't want everyone walking around with a loaded gun. This is our country too.

  8. Anonymous2:18 PM

    Hillary is an enabler!

    1. Anonymous2:37 PM

      That's Trump talk. Who mocks disabled reporters in campaign rallies? Trump again.

  9. Anonymous2:19 PM

    Conservative Christians Sob Into Their Coffee Over Trump’s Nomination – ‘There’s Nobody Left’

    Right after Ted Cruz suspended his presidential campaign, evangelical Christians went nuts, pouring sadness and fear all over social media about their own fate now that their personal government crusader was not going to make it to the White House. Now, it seems they’ve gone into complete, total and utter despair, crying that there’s nobody left to represent them and their dominionist ideals.

    According to the Washington Post, Nebraska Pastor Gary Fuller had a Sunday service planned around Ted Cruz remaining in the race. Instead, he had to tell his congregation to vote according to their convictions because he didn’t know what else to say. He also said:

    “In a sense, we feel abandoned by our party. There’s nobody left.”

    Honestly, B-O-O H-O-O. Religion needs to be left out of government, and if they have to learn that lesson the hard way, tough bananas.

    lot of time people ask the question: why can’t we just print more money to get rid of our debt? The answer is simple. If you just print more money, you will be completely devalue our currency, thus sending our nation into a destructive economic tailspin, much like Germany in the early part of the 21st century.

    And if you’re Donald Trump, you’re A-OK with doing just that.

    The self described business “genius” just showed the American people how truly stupid and inept he is today when he gave a reason as to why America should default on its debt: just print more money, and buy it back. Appearing on CNN’s New Day, Trump told host Chris Cuomo:

    “People said I want to go and buy debt and default on debt, and I mean, these people are crazy. This is the United States government. First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you, OK?”

    Trump’s plan basically consists of this: we don’t raise the debt-ceiling, thus defaulting. But we won’t default because interest rates will go up and we will use our liquid assets such as cash (which we’ll print more of) to buy back bonds at a discount that will cover the debt.

    Donald Trump Whines That Mitt Romney Was ‘Ungrateful’ For Trump Helping Him Lose The Election (VIDEO)

    The more we get to know Donald Trump, the more we realize that he’s just a big orange version of Kim Jong-Un. He’s childish, petulant and thin skinned, and anyone who has wronged him had better watch out. Mitt Romney wronged Donald Trump. He refuses to endorse the billionaire and well, it appears that Trump is holding a grudge against Romney from 2012. Trump wants credit for helping him lose the election, or something like that.

    On Sunday’s Meet the Press, Trump talked about the feud that appears to be happening between the 2012 nominee and the 2016 presumptive nominee.

  10. Anonymous2:25 PM

    How Donald Trump Will Be Beaten

    For nearly a year, I’ve been telling an unresponsive media how and why Donald Trump would win the Republican presidential nomination, and now that he’s done it, I can finally reveal how he will be stopped. It will be difficult for them to unlearn the lesson they spent so long ignoring, but not only can Donald Trump be beaten, not only will Donald Trump be beaten, he already knows how.

    All things being equal, there shouldn’t really be any question about this, but all things aren’t equal. The media refuses to acknowledge the racial resentment that is the heart, soul, and body of Trump’s appeal, and while Hillary Clinton is more than tough enough to trade blows with Trump, the pebbly media and political landscape means that she’s still a bad hop or two away from keeping this thing very close.

    Even so, one of the fundamental media misunderstandings about Donald Trump’s durability against the media and his Republican primary opponents is that it will necessarily translate to the general election, when most of it is rooted in two things that definitely will not translate. Much of Trump’s immunity from attack by his opponents stemmed from the fact that they were all afraid to attack him for so long that when they finally did, it rang false. There was also little that they could attack him over that wasn’t also true of themselves, or even their party’s most “moderate” members.

    As for the media, Trump’s success in the Republican nomination battle came in a milieu that is naturally hostile toward the mainstream media, a fact which Trump cannily exploited.

    Now that he’s out in the wider world, however, Trump is going to face attacks based on contrasts with sane policies, and will need to convince an electorate that isn’t quite as convinced that the media is just out to get him when they report exactly what he has said. These are structural disadvantages that will be difficult for Trump to overcome, but which he has also shown some aptitude for mitigating. He can pivot on policy with dizzying speed, and will continue to have complete run of the media’s amplitude.

    Regardless of whether Trump can overcome these challenges, one thing is certain, and that is that he thinks he can. Over the weekend, though, Trump showed that there’s one challenge he knows he can’t overcome, that he has seen the agent of his eventual destruction, and all he can do now is hide from it. Check out this segment from Trump’s interview with George Stephanopoulos on Sunday’s This Week:

    ...Twice, Stephanopoulos invited Trump to swing back at President Obama, and twice, Trump ducked and covered. It was a small but telling moment, especially when placed in context with Trump’s repeated refusals to swing back at President Obama’s blistering barbs at last weekend’s White House Correspondents’ Dinner.

    Trump remembers something that the rest of the media seems to have forgotten, which is that Barack Obama is the only person who has ever managed to sink Donald Trump like a toy boat in Republican presidential polls, and he’s champing at the bit to do it again.

    Al Sharpton Nails John McCain for Being Just Like Donald Trump

    1. Anonymous2:48 PM

      Yep, O is gonna take him down.

      Obama Approval Rating Jumps 3 Points After Trump Clinches GOP Nomination

    2. Anonymous3:24 PM

      O is so smart, so handsome, so cool and unflappable. Trump knows he just can't stand up against in him any way.

    3. How to sink Trump: Make him look small. He hates that. And Obama did that to him at the WHCD.

      And I still think his whole run for the Presidency is revenge for being laughed by the the GOP when he tried to run twice before.

    4. Anonymous5:39 PM

      Barbara, Trump ran for President once before under the banner of the Reform Party. Are you unaware of election history?

  11. Leland2:26 PM

    There are actually two things she should do about this crap.

    First, laugh at it because it's just not possible for the President to do.

    Two, explain to the asshole that it takes not only Congress to abolish an Amendment, it takes a 2/3's majority of the STATES voting to abolish it. AIN'T gonna happen!

    Of course, there is always that old fall back of the jackasses who believe this crap and that is that all the President has to do is declare marshall law. The ONLY way I can see that happening is if we are suddenly hit with massive riots and panic - and I can't see that happening except under Trump with the KKK and its ilk leading the fight against minorities. That would cause racial wars and that would bring out the troops. MAYBE!

    1. Anonymous6:22 PM

      They still think Obama is going os how up at their doors at 2AM with a bunch of storm troopers and demand they hand over their guns or he'll take them personally to the FEMA camps in Idaho. They are insane.

    2. Leland2:30 AM

      6:22, I think that's what I just said via my comment about marshall law.

  12. Anonymous2:30 PM

    I am a patient person. I look forward to the day Trump has to claim the title of 'loser' to Hillary Clinton. Most Americans can see through the bullshit.

  13. Anonymous2:37 PM

    It will be a lot nicer around here when Bernie admits defeat to Mrs. Clinton. I can wait.

    1. Anonymous3:02 PM

      Me, too.

  14. Anonymous2:41 PM

    Trump looks like he needs a good laxative.

  15. Anonymous2:44 PM

    Jon Stewart Returns To Shred “Thin Skinned Narcissistic A–hole” Donald Trump

    If there was ever an election year that begged for the return of Jon Stewart, it is 2016. Stewart in his usual style made it clear that there is no way in hell that he thinks that Donald Trump should be president.

    1. Anonymous3:16 PM

      Only thing is, we need JS right now!

  16. Anonymous2:48 PM

    Hillary in her own words...

  17. Anonymous2:58 PM

    Wow. Dumpy Donald looks so unhealthy. In fact, he looks sicker by the day. Terrible. Just horrible.

    1. Anonymous3:20 PM

      I know! He's had months to try working on a better visual presentation and appear healthier, but he looks like a fat blob who's going to have a heart attack any day now. He thinks he's so hip, so cool, so in, but he looks like some cheese-ball little mafioso stuck in the 1980's and now aged to grandpa. He is so utterly difficult to have to look at.

    2. Anonymous3:41 PM

      What I say, he is that disgusting thing in mad max

    3. He was so bothered that he was called an orange orangutan that he is bleaching his hair -- anybody in the media notice or comment?

  18. Anonymous3:00 PM

    Trump and his lies. Rather, the Trumps and their lies. Melania and he are two peas in a pod.

    I'm waiting to hear what Trump has to say about this New Yorker article on his wife. Maybe nothing this time since it points out that on her Facebook page she outright lies about having a degree in design and architecture, when in truth she attended college for all of one year.

    1. Anonymous3:40 PM

      Omg lied about degree. She and sarah besties.

    2. Anonymous5:36 PM

      Melania is a nightmare!

    3. Anonymous6:20 PM

      One year? Gee, the Palin girls got 'degrees' from high school while attending one year out of four, and 'degrees' from hair and nail school in two months. And Sarah has no degree after six years at five schools. All the Trump women need are some near-naked pictures to get on Trump's 'next wife' list.

  19. Anonymous3:03 PM

    He must be quite anxious if he's pulling that one out already.

    Or has he been told to get out of her panties immediately?

    If they're trying to make a normal human being out Donald Trump they will fail. But it will be fun to watch.

  20. Republiscum Climate Change Deniers3:10 PM

    Mission Accomplished!

  21. Anonymous3:37 PM

    All this is getting really fun!

  22. Anonymous3:39 PM

    Ot, well at least Rubio says count me out to that orange orangutang.

  23. Anonymous3:58 PM

    Obama, fuck you very much on your Kissinger asskissing. Seriously, fuck you.

    Obama and Kissinger sitting in a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g. First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes a bunch of dead East Asians.
    People, I kid, I kid. We all know Obama and Kissinger wouldn't wait til marriage...

    1. Anonymous5:35 PM

      Whatever. Take your meds, hon.

  24. Anonymous4:03 PM

    Senator Ted Cruz’s supporters are mounting an effort to seize control of the Republican platform and the rules governing the party’s July convention, the first indication that Mr. Cruz will not simply hand his delegates over to Donald J. Trump.

    In an email sent Sunday to pro-Cruz convention delegates, a top aide to the Texas senator wrote that it was “still possible to advance a conservative agenda at the convention.”

    “To do that, it is imperative that we fill the Rules and Platform Committees with strong conservative voices like yours,” wrote Ken Cuccinelli, who was the campaign’s former delegate wrangler and a former attorney general of Virginia. “That means you need to come to the national convention and support others in coming, too!”

    Mr. Cruz is planning a Monday evening conference call where, as Mr. Cuccinelli writes, Mr. Cruz’s former officials plan to “discuss what we can do at the convention to protect against liberal changes to our platform, and how we can right the wrongs in the rules from 2012!”

  25. Anonymous4:53 PM

    I shoot guns and am working on getting my concealed carry permit. That said, I would never support the NRA or tRump. In addition I think they should do back ground checks gun sales at swap meets and gun shows.

  26. Anonymous5:07 PM

    The Case For Hillary

    The case for Hillary Clinton is mostly a matter of rebutting the case against her. Once that’s done, you’re simply left with the most qualified candidate, and someone who is, by all reality-based measures, progressive (ranked the tenth most liberal senator). And just as important, someone who is capable of achieving results (I’ll conclude with the case against Sanders, and there’s a very, very strong case to make against him). We’ll start with this specific example, which I think is illustrative of the sorts of attacks we see made on Hillary. It begins with this video of an interview with Elizabeth Warren that’s been making its rounds on the internet, you may have seen it:

    1. Anonymous4:14 AM

      "Case for Hillary" indeed!
      Clinton Email Scandal: Now A Key Witness’ Emails Have Mysteriously Vanished | “It’s hard to believe that an IT staffer who set up Hillary Clinton’s reckless email server never sent or received a single work-related email in the four years he worked at the State Department."

      Hillary Clinton on email server: "It wasn't my best choice"

  27. Isn't this standard Republican rhetoric?

    Remember how Obama was coming for our guns?

    8 years now and still hasn't happened.

    And yet the drooling toothless will go out and buy more ammo to hoard.

  28. Anita Winecooler5:46 PM

    Be very careful, Donny blondutang. Something tells me you've got some skeletons of your own, and Melania, Marla and Ivana are enablers. Cue up the theme song to "The GodFather". Any former casino owners have ties with the mob? Just sayin.


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