Sunday, May 22, 2016

Yeah about that debate Bernie Sanders is asking for....Hillary's just not into it.

Nice try Sanders.
Courtesy of The Hill: 

Allies of Hillary Clinton say the Democratic front-runner should feel no pressure to appear in another debate against Bernie Sanders. 

Sanders accepted an invitation by Fox News earlier this week to take part in an upcoming debate ahead of the California primary. But Clinton, who is 90 delegates away from clinching the Democratic nomination, hasn’t agreed to participate. 

Nor should she, allies say. 

“There’s nothing to debate,” said one longtime ally and confidante. “There’s nothing new. You can run these debates on loop. The attacks are all the same. And we cannot tolerate his tired, old attacks that continue to disunite the party at a time when it’s supposed to be united.”

Yep, that about sums it up.

At this point there is simply nothing left to debate, and agreeing to do so on Fox News is just asking Hillary to knowingly walk into an ambush with no political upside.

Besides she has more important things on her plate.

This is where we all need to focus our attention.

Wow, what a truly unfortunate thing to have to say.


  1. Anonymous6:34 AM

    Give it a rest, Gryphen. Your drum-beating is becoming tiresome and needs some balance. You're becoming not worth my time.

    1. Anonymous6:59 AM

      Well aren't YOU speshul!

    2. Anonymous7:02 AM


    3. Anonymous7:03 AM

      And don't let the door hit ya on the way out, 6:34.

    4. Anonymous7:14 AM

      This must be one of the GOP trolls out to divide the DEM party. 4chan has a special place for these guys to get together and plan to disrupt the blogs and chat rooms and foster division between Sanders and Clinton supporters. Look for more of this shit in the days and months to come.

    5. Anonymous7:38 AM

      but here you are

    6. Anonymous8:09 AM

      the desperation makes you pathetic 6:34. Knowing Hillary as president blows your mind is very entertaining to critical thinkers.

  2. Anonymous6:35 AM

    I agree; what more is there to debate?
    And on Fox no less? Heck no.

    1. 66gardeners9:50 AM

      Bernie Sanders' campaign is almost broke. won't be long now. They've let go almost all their staff. Hillary has been hiring, and Sanders still spends more than her. LOL

      I take "the smart female" for $500.

  3. Anonymous6:38 AM


    1. Anonymous7:39 AM

      Oh it's the 12 y.o. "Bernie!" poster. Run along mental midget

    2. Anonymous7:43 AM

      BernieBro assumes that because she's a woman she must be stupid and do what the man demands.

    3. ""Anytime.Anywhere.""
      Using that quote now is just stupid. Sure. Any time, anywhere when it mattered. It no longer does, so it would just be a waste of time and resources for both candidates.

    4. Anonymous9:34 AM

      If the situation were reversed, Bernie wouldn't debate her either.

      These people are professional politicians. They know what's up.

      I doubt Bernie ever believed she would debate him.

  4. Anonymous6:40 AM

    Every event the Sanders supporters show up at they give party a bad image. The Trumpeteers would love it.

    1. Anonymous7:04 AM

      Many aren't necessarily Domocratic party members. Some are Bernie onlyists, some are Republicans.

    2. Anonymous7:15 AM

      Exactly. A lot of the more violent members of Sanders movement are Rand Paul supporters looking for something to burn down. Some are 4chan freaks trying to drive a wedge between the Sanders and Clinton supporters by being assholes online and in person.

    3. Anonymous8:10 AM

      I hope those Rand Paulidiots choke when then vote for tRump

    4. 66gardeners9:52 AM

      you mean choke as in voting for Hillary?

  5. Anonymous6:58 AM

    Jesus fucking tap-dancing Christ!!
    I realize that the Palins are underground right now, but you are going to drive everyone away with your divisiveness. You look like a rube, falling for all this media bullshit. Hillary is going to get the nom, Bernie is going to back her, most Bernie people WILL vote for her and she's going to win. It's like your too stupid to see that we went through THE EXACT SAME THING in 2008. This constant bashing of someone who is fundamentally on your side is getting us nowhere.
    Do you know who wins when we're divided?
    Think about it.

    1. Anonymous7:35 AM

      "Jesus fucking tap-dancing Christ!!" That's the best you can do? No intelligent, thoughtful discourse; just attacks and name calling. Best get a mirror and look into it for what you're accusing.

    2. Anonymous7:42 AM

      WTF are you even talking about?
      We need to come together.
      We're going to LOSE to Donald Fucking Trump!
      You guys are so busy attacking each other, you can't see the forest for the trees.
      All this pearl-clutching about Sanders is just a distraction.
      Sorry you can't see it for what it is.

    3. Anonymous8:12 AM

      Bernie needs to buck up if he wants to ride with the big firls

    4. Anonymous9:51 AM

      Palins can do their own John Miller.

      Let us not forget the funnies.

      BSMP LLC “provide lobbying, public relations, and political consulting services.”

      Lou Sarah

  6. Anonymous7:04 AM

    "Hillary did agree in theory to holding a debate in May, and now Bernie is attempting to cash in on their prior agreement. No word yet on whether this debate will happen, but this is exactly why Bernie agreed to the earlier debate before New Hampshire in exchange for later debates added to the calendar."
    She's chicken and her word is shit.

    "Besides she has more important things on her plate."
    Yeah,like an FBI investigation she might get asked about.
    Or what about those speech transcripts?
    "I'll look into it"
    107 days and counting...

    1. Anonymous7:16 AM

      Hey 4chan guy, go back to your pals and tell them it isn't working.

    2. Anonymous7:30 AM

      Works just fine.Are you disputing the fact that she said she "would look into it" and it's been 107 days?
      And this is at the bottom of the link I provided:

    3. Anonymous7:40 AM

      fuck off

    4. Anonymous7:43 AM

      Two words: Bernie's Taxes.

    5. 66gardeners8:13 AM

      That warrants repeating 7:43


    6. Anonymous8:24 AM

      Two more words: Janes fraud

    7. "*Bernie!"
      Is there supposed to be something clever about this repetitive affectation?

  7. Anonymous7:13 AM

    Bernie's campaign coffers are drying up. He wants another debate for free air time. I'm not a Bernie basher; I was more committed to him several months ago. However, I sure as hell don't want to hear another debate.

    1. 66gardeners8:22 AM

      There was an extremely revealing segment on Rachel Maddow Friday Night.

      Even though Bernie took in more $$$ in April, he has $5 million cash on hand while Hillary has over $30 million. Bernie's people are all paid more than Hillary's as a whole even though she has far more people working for her. That speaks volumes considering Bernie is not helping ANY down ballot democratic candidates get elected.

      "As Maddow pointed out, despite raising $27 million in April, Sen. Sanders only has $5.8 million in cash on hand to fund a month’s worth of primaries including the most expensive primary in the country. In contrast, Hillary Clinton raised $2 million less than Sen. Sanders, but she has over $30 million in cash on hand."

    2. Anonymous11:06 AM

      Bernie is going through $$$$ faster than it takes a private jet to fly to the Vatican!

    3. Anonymous4:20 PM

      It's horrible that he pays his people. Just horrible.

  8. Anonymous7:16 AM

    Focus on this:

    Trump looks silly when he postures with a rifle. Melania can really help him out and show the bad guys what a Presidential security detail is all about.

    Sorry Bill, you will never be a sexy First Mate.

    1. Anonymous8:22 AM

      As a woman in their age group, I would take Bill Clinton Over Donald Trump for a date any day of the week.

    2. Anonymous8:27 AM

      au contraire, Bill was the first President who I could imagine as other than my grandfather and his freinds, as in yeah, I could have a fantasy about that guy. (GWB was just a compete yuck.) BARACK - OH YEAH- call me a fan, a groupie, an admirer.

    3. Anonymous8:33 AM

      Is that you $arah 8:27 AM?
      Just kidding. :)

    4. $arah$aysPayme9:55 AM

      Is that you stalking me Todd

  9. Remember PUMA? I do!! Some of those same people are still here, making the same noise!

    1. Anonymous7:42 AM

      what a pointless comment

    2. Anonymous8:23 AM

      pee ponders were the PUMA's so yes they are still here

    3. Anonymous9:55 AM

      Completely. I remember one day when I debated a couple PUMAs on some message board. They were completely bonkers in their hatred for Obama and their butthurt about Clinton. I was and still am a Clinton supporter, but the PUMAs were/are a bunch of whining no-nothings.

  10. Anonymous7:30 AM

    Maybe Bernie will go on Faux and debate himself? OR, maybe he will go on and tell everyone how he plans to to get the do-nothing congress to pay for his progressive ides? Without raising the debt by 30 trillion or so.

    1. Balzafiar7:55 AM

      Maybe Bernie can invite Ross Perot or Ralph Nader to debate. They're all flakes of a feather, so why not? They can have Christie roaming around in the background with a look of bewilderment, muttering to himself. Might even be entertaining.

    2. Anonymous10:36 AM

      Bernie has been a do-nothing member of congress for 30 yrs, except for naming those two post offices.

  11. Anonymous7:49 AM

    None of the high-profile players in the Dem party seem to be freaking out about Bernie staying in the race.
    Quit fallingfor the media spin, take a breath, it's all going to be okay.

  12. Anonymous7:49 AM

    Hillary has the same problem as Bernie. Cray, cray over the top supporters.

    Are we going to hear it from the peanut gallery? She needs to control them because she is her supporters. They are going to blow up the convention and the Democratic party and elect a President Trump and his first lady.

    Hillary Dismisses the Idea That Sanders Is Helping Trump by Continuing to Fight Her

    Hillary Clinton spoke at great length about Bernie Sanders on Meet the Press this morning and made it clear to Chuck Todd she doesn’t think him staying in the race is basically “helping Donald Trump.”

    1. She has to say that, as do the Democratic leaders.

      You do understand how politics work right?

    2. Anonymous8:01 AM
      Do you understand how they work?
      I'm really beginning to think you don't know shit.
      Iceberg anyone?

    3. Anonymous8:22 AM

      Honestly, Gryph, I don't think many understand how our branches of government work either.

    4. Anonymous9:10 AM

      8:22 -
      What's even more frightening is that the Republican candidate for President has demonstrated repeatedly that HE doesn't understand how our branches of government work.

    5. Anonymous9:48 AM

      I agree, Gryphen. And Hillary has too much class to do otherwise. She doesn't beive in scorched earth policies.

    6. Anonymous9:58 AM

      I think she'd like him to drop out, not because she's scared, but because he's a distraction. And unless she trounces him in California, even if he doesn't win the state (which he won't), his supporters are going to say he did.

      She's obviously not going to say that publicly.

      It's really not a big deal. In a few weeks it will be over and the convention will bring every, or at least most people, together against Trump.

    7. Anonymous10:02 AM

      9:10 AM -
      "I love low information people!"

    8. Anonymous11:12 AM

      This is great for SNL.

      9:10 AM - 10:02 AM

      Why they love Mr. and Mrs. Drumpf.

  13. Anonymous7:50 AM

    Perhaps the best way to understand him is simply as a salesman. There are no objective facts where he comes from, just selling points. And the only thing he’s really ever selling is himself.
    He’s simply indifferent to whether what he says is true or not. Which is why he lies so easily and excessively, even without concern if the lie has already been publicly debunked."
    "FACTS are negotiable, like everything else. Power is the only thing that matters."
    "There is no such thing as a post-truth republic. It’s time that the press woke up from its decades-long slumber that began with Ronald Reagan."

  14. Anonymous7:53 AM

    Hillary Clinton went straight for the heart of the myth of Donald Trump by calling the presumptive Republican nominee "pretend successful" while on NBC's Meet The Press.

    Hillary Clinton took a dig at Donald Trump that is certain to drive him up the wall and converted it into a legitimate question about why he won’t release his tax returns. Clinton is defining the reason why Trump won’t release his tax returns, and Trump can do nothing about it, but release the returns.

    1. Anonymous8:25 AM

      I saw that

      Pretend Successful will stick. Where are trump's taxes. Bernie? What are they hiding?

    2. Anonymous9:45 AM

      Ooooh, that's good! That will leave a mark.

    3. Anonymous9:59 AM

      That's so true. His whole life has been about puffing himself up and putting others down to make himself feel better.

  15. Anonymous7:56 AM

    Oh Gryphen, please do your homework. DWS is loathed by so many and Bernie is not the first to call for her outster. There are articles all over the net that are calling for her to step down as DNC head and millions are being given to her challenger. She is toxic to us Dems. She is pretty much repub lite and stirring up all kinds of bad feelings everywhere. So instead of throwing shade at Bernie, take a good long look at DWS, she's gotta go.

    1. Anonymous8:08 AM

      One could say the same about you little girl. There are articles all over the internet calling for you to sit down and shut up.

    2. Anonymous8:25 AM

      she's gotta go


    3. Anonymous8:37 AM

      How about both of them go, BS and DWS?

    4. Anonymous9:44 AM

      If I were DWS, I would say to Bernie, "You first, buddy. I helped build this party. What did you do?"

    5. Anonymous9:52 AM

      She isn't the first politician who disappoints and pisses off voters and who will be dismissed in the voting booth.

    6. Anonymous10:46 AM

      Hillary Clinton will win POTUS! Bernie is a joke - damned near as much as is Trump!

    7. Anonymous10:47 AM

      DWS is doing a great job! Bernie is trying to bring her down. There was no trouble mentioned about her until he came on the scene.

      Kick him out of the party Debbie! There are many of us that would be in support of that move!

    8. Anonymous11:13 AM

      There was no trouble mentioned about her until he came on the scene.....

      That is misinformation.

    9. Anonymous11:33 AM

      “When [Wasserman Schultz] sensed Obama was considering replacing her as chair in 2013, she began to line up supporters to suggest the move was both anti-woman and anti-Semitic.”
      Wasserman Schultz is reportedly very much at odds with White House staffers, and rarely even speaks with President Barack Obama."

    10. Anonymous11:38 AM

      Hardly, 11:13 AM YOU are the one that continually feeds incorrect information on this blog!!! Go away, sweet pea!

      Bernie will not be picked as the nominee and Hillary Clinton will be the next leader of our country.

      Hope you watched her on 'Meet the Press' today as she did an outstanding job - as always!

    11. Anonymous1:44 PM

      Is it "incorrect information" when anyone else including Gryph cites mediate on this blog?
      There was never a chair thrown in NV at the convention,yet this blog printed lie after lie that there was.
      Does that constitute "incorrect information" in your world?

    12. You guys always focus on the chair since it is the one thing not caught on video.

      However the yelling over the speakers, disrespect to Barbara Boxer, and harassing phone calls and threats of violence are never mentioned.

      Why is that exactly?

  16. Anonymous7:59 AM

    Bernie Sanders dropped a strong hint that he was open to being Hillary Clinton’s running mate during an interview on ABC’s This Week.

    Transcript via ABC’s This Week:

    1. Anonymous10:45 AM

      She'd be fucking nuts to pick him and I doubt she will!!! He's done nothing but try to divide the Democratic party and get Donald Trump elected.

      He joined the party - they didn't ask him to and he should be kicked out.

      The guy is a first un-classy jerk 'parading' himself in our U.S. Congress. No wonder it is known as the 'do nothing' and worst Congress EVER!

    2. Anonymous12:49 PM

      "She's a corrupt tool of Wall Street who stands for everything I'm against....and I'd love to collaborate with her."

  17. Anonymous8:04 AM

    The picture of Donald Trump: take away everything but the lips and it looks like a baby's butt hole. It matches the baby, stubby fingers. Odious old white guy. Orange Trumpy or Dangerous Dinky Donald are his new nicknames.

  18. 66gardeners8:07 AM

    Hillary nailed it on meet the press. She is calm, cool, and confident. It looks very good on her.

    1. Anonymous9:15 AM

      When they get to the debate, Hillary's calm, cool and confident demeanor and vast knowledge will be compared to the volatile, unprepared, ignorant and narcissistic toupee'd, giant Cheeto.

      There is no doubt who will come out looking more presidential.

    2. Anonymous9:48 AM

      I'm not worried. It will be completely obvious which candidate is POTUS material and which candidate is an unhinged blowhard.

      In fact, after each debate, there will be more and more Republicans jumping ship.

  19. Anonymous8:12 AM

    What a coward she is.

    1. Anonymous8:31 AM

      Like hell she is, but you're entitled to your opinion.

    2. Anonymous9:31 AM

      You're absolutely right, 8:12. She's a complete coward because she's refused to do ANY debates with Sanders.

      Oh, wait...

      Tuesday, October 13, 2015
      Saturday, November 14, 2015
      Saturday, December 19, 2015
      Sunday, January 17, 2016
      Monday, January 25, 2016
      Thursday, February 4, 2016
      Thursday, February 11, 2016
      Sunday, March 6, 2016
      Wednesday, March 9, 2016
      Thursday, April 14, 2016

      She's a complete coward because she's only done TEN debates with Sanders!

    3. Anonymous9:42 AM

      What a complete buffon you are.

    4. Anonymous9:42 AM

      8:12 AM = John Barron = John Miller

    5. Anonymous9:46 AM

      The OP is just a dumb comment with no basis in reality. Some people haven't graduated from elementary school taunts.

  20. Anonymous8:27 AM

    Bernie Sanders lacks the needed funds to mount a credible challenge to Hilary Clinton in California. It's almost over.

    1. Anonymous1:35 PM

      Wait! What! Where did all those millions from $27 donations go? He surely didn't spend all those funds yet, did he?

    2. Anonymous2:31 PM

      How? He raised more $$$ than Hillary so how did he run out already? Just how much did that folly to the Vatican cost?

  21. Anonymous8:38 AM

    Donald Trump Makes Another Truly Pathetic Attempt At Making Hispanics Like Him (VIDEO)

  22. Anonymous8:39 AM

    WATCH: Racist Anti-Muslim Protesters Didn’t Expect To See This At Their Rally (VIDEO)

    A group of anti-Muslim protesters descended on downtown Houston to protest the completed construction of an Islamic library inside of an already existing Muslim community center. Less than a dozen protesters actually showed up to the protest. The event was organized by a group called “The Heart of Texas.” Apparently, no one associated with the group even bothered to show up the event.

    The turnout for the counter-protest was huge. More than fifty people showed up to protest the anti-Muslim protesters.

  23. Anonymous8:41 AM

    Trump Said America ‘Never’ Wins, But Obama Just Took Out A Major Terrorist

    ...The Pentagon press secretary also explained that Mansur has been “actively involved with planning attacks against facilities in Kabul and across Afghanistan, presenting a threat to Afghan civilians and security forces, our personnel, and Coalition partners.”

    President Obama authorized the drone strike that appears to have killed the Taliban leader while en route to Vietnam on Air Force One.

    You may remember that President Obama’s epic correspondent’s dinner roast of Donald Trump came at the same time the Bin Laden raid was about to be executed. Perhaps it’s time to start panicking if you’re in Al Qaeda or the Taliban – or ISIS – when Trump’s buffoonery is in the news.

    1. Anonymous10:37 AM

      There is no doubt that President Obama outwits The Donald every step of the way.

      Donald Trump proves to us time and time again how stupid he truly is! He would make a horrid POTUS!

      I want to thank President Obama for continuing to do such an outstanding job as POTUS. He has the solid respect of other countries throughout the world where Donald Trump ALREADY does not!

    2. Anonymous5:09 PM

      You have to give Dumb Donald a little leeway, he's s-l-o-w and low energy.

  24. Anonymous9:41 AM

    "...have killed the Taliban leader while en route to Vietnam on Air Force One..."
    Sorry, forgive me for nitpicking, but this sentence makes it sound like the Taliban leader was travelling on Air Force One.

    1. Anonymous11:32 AM

      Yea, President Obama!!! You did it again! And, now what will the poor baby/boy, Donald Trump have to say?

  25. Anonymous10:31 AM

    That photo of Trump with his creepy lips extended in a kiss makes me wish to hell someone would knock his block off. He is the most unattractive boy/man we have on the planet! JHC!!!

    Bury him America in this upcoming election so that we never see or hear from again. He's scum upon our country!

  26. Anita Winecooler5:16 PM

    " When it's all said and done, it's all said and done " is an old lituanian proverb. The lady's got some chutzpah! When Bernie says jump, she points and smiles politely.


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