Sunday, May 22, 2016

Pro-Trump trolls attempting to create division between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders supporters. Well that explains some things.

Courtesy of Raw Story: 

An Internet troll who claims to have found deep divisions among factions of the Left on Twitter laid out a plan Saturday for fellow Donald Trump supporters to exploit those fissures. 

Posting on the sometimes-dubious message board 4chan, the anonymous poster wrote a post entitled, “Let’s troll Bernie and Hillary supporters systematically,” where the writer says he/she posed as a Democratic voter and trolled supporters of Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton in an effort to deepen divisions and help Trump secure a victory in November. 

“We need to take advantage of this. This is Trump’s gift,” the 4chan troll wrote. “If we’re serious about a Trump presidency we need to start infiltrating their conversations in order to sow more divison (sic). I’m talking systematic and long-term /mischief/, not just a hew minutes trolling dumbass SJW’s. Look at the chaos and damage I was able to make yesterday, just one person, with no real rudeness in my replies. Imagine that writ large: My account is @realJohnMilIer.” 

“SJW” stands for “social justice warrior.”

The article then goes on to provide  examples of this John Miller guy working behind to convince others to join his cause and create "mischief" that could help swing the election toward Trump.

The concept is rather simple: 

1.If hundreds of accounts on the Hillary or Bernie/Stein side were saying even worse things it’d make the divisions deeper. 2.If we got people to agree with us the opposing sides would blast each other as dangerous extremists but each would defend horrible tweets. 3. Even if a few or a lot of us were caught, it would increase distrust tremendously among ANYONE on the opposing side.

So of course the question we all need to ask ourselves is whether the person who is confronting us in the comments section an actual Bernie/Hillary supporter who is angry with the other side, or is it somebody from the Trump camp throwing gasoline on an already volatile situation hoping to cause an explosion of mistrust?

Personally I think we have seen several examples of exactly that.  

64 comments:

  1. Anonymous8:52 AM

    Whew! ... glad this came to light cuz the constant wrasslin' was getting to me.

    Did anyone tell DWS?

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  2. Anonymous9:01 AM

    Why Donald Trumps mind is like a shitty diaper.

    Both get changed regularly.

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  3. Anonymous9:06 AM

    I think there is at least one of those here. The intent is to sow discord and doubt. It isn't working(speaking for myself).

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    1. Anonymous9:41 AM

      I've seen some comments that viciously attack Sanders and I've seen some comments that viciously attack Clinton. And I swear that they are literally written by the same person.

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    2. Anonymous11:18 AM

      +1

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    3. Anonymous1:14 PM

      Exactly, you can tell by the writing style and way their posts looks.

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    4. Anonymous2:26 PM

      that's odd, because when i head off to the far reaches of the wacky sites of the internet, (the pee pond)
      brentfart, etc, i never think of myself as a troll :)
      drlager

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    5. Anonymous5:37 PM

      And you see them because of Gryphen's insistence on allowing them unaccountability by hiding behind "Anonymous" instead of insisting that everyone post with an actual name and an e-mail address that he can monitor to keep the trolling at bay.

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  4. Anonymous9:14 AM

    People can criticize you until the cows come home, Gryph, but you give all sides their right to speak, which is more than can be said for many political sites. Pee puddle a prime example and why I enjoy it here.

    I used to like Bernie until he turned into the doddering "get off my lawn" codger that he is today, let alone "Jane His Wife" (shameless Jetsons reference) that was handed $5 and instead snatched the wallet that shut down Burlington college.

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  5. A despicable way to skew an opponent's campaign. But then didn't we see this coming when Trump as their leader would only applaud it? One more reason for Bernie's supporters to suck it up and not let this pig of a man and pig of a party win anything.

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    1. Anonymous9:49 AM

      Yes, Barbara, "If I don't get the nomination, there will be riots." There is no uniting on his part whatsoever; he is the all-important Trump that doesn't know jack.

      May God forgive me that I'm hoping for a massive coronary.

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    2. Anonymous10:18 AM

      God will be busy - I think a lot of folks are hoping for the same.

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    3. Anonymous10:51 AM

      Anonymous9:49 AM,

      Ok, now. As a Hillary suppporter, I am speaking up and saying that is just not right. Please don't sink to posting those kinds of comments. Just work hard for Hillary.

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    4. Anonymous11:04 AM

      I know, 10:51AM, just mortified that he got as far as he has. I would never wish actual death on anyone.

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  6. Anonymous9:39 AM

    So you must be a pro Trump troll, that explains things.

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    1. Anonymous11:20 AM

      Hi, Alicia!

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  7. Anonymous9:39 AM

    Trolls like these guys aside, there are a lot of libertarian and unaffiliated voters who are with Sanders simply because he is a "protest" candidate.

    They probably don't even know where he stands on most issues. They hear he is against the government (which isn't really true), they see a chance to be publicly angry and shouty, they want to stick it to the "establishment," and that's enough for them.

    Most of these people - knee jerk Sanders supporter, not legitimate supporters - don't want income equality that goes beyond their own wallets. They don't care about civil rights except as it pertains to their own.

    They could probably vote for Trump as easily as they vote for Sanders.

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    1. Anonymous11:20 AM

      Sanders IS the gov't. He's a sitting Senator!

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    2. Anonymous4:23 AM

      If they don't know where he stands on the issues they must be really stupid because he has been repeating the same stuff over and over again for months. Sounds like a broken record at this point.

      How can he be against the government when he has only held government positions for his whole working career?

      He is a career politician and a sneaky one at that.

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  8. Anonymous9:44 AM

    Let's hope that the real supporters stay civil. I'm not talking about yelling and cheering or even jeering. I'm talking about getting hurt or hurting others. With that many people, it only takes a couple undercover pro-Trump agitators to start something that could turn ugly really fast.

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  9. Anonymous9:55 AM

    '...somebody from the Trump camp throwing gasoline on an already volatile situation hoping to cause an explosion of mistrust?'

    That is new?

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  10. Anonymous10:01 AM

    I agree, this has actually been going on for a long time. The problem is libs are usually less obnoxious and uncivilized and don’t go off on these idiots. I think we ought to point out the trolls and encourage people to recognize their tactics.

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  11. Anonymous10:01 AM

    Good! Now that we know the score, it's time to clean up Twitter.

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    1. Anonymous11:21 AM

      +1. Twitter is a mess.

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  12. Anonymous10:07 AM

    I liked him until he got greedy. Purpose for meeting with the Pope?

    Trump will repay himself plus interest and then tell us later how much he made off of this.

    Redstate said this morning that Trump was now backing off the wall for the Hispanic vote.

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    1. Anonymous10:25 AM

      Oh yes, remember "I will be a different president than I am a candidate?"

      Dayum, I am going to miss President Obama.

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    2. Anonymous1:11 PM

      Trump: bait and switch.

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  13. Anonymous10:11 AM

    *Bernie!
    Sorry folks,I don't do 4chan.
    I find 4chan as stupid as infowars/Alex Jones.
    I do bring the truth here in keeping with the stated mission of the blog.
    Together we can beat Trump.
    It isn't all about queen Hillary...

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    1. Anonymous10:52 AM

      Give it a rest. The truth you bring is always tinged with nasty little comments like "queen Hillary." That's not the truth, nor is it helpful if you really want us to unite to beat Trump.

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    2. Anonymous10:53 AM

      No you don't bring the truth. You post your point of view.

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    3. Anonymous11:22 AM

      Theory: * = covert Trump guy. Thoughts?

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    4. Anonymous11:56 AM

      Nah, just a Sanders supporter who thinks he's smarter and more clever than her really is.

      Although, I don't he'd have any problem voting for Trump over Clinton. He obviously has an unhealthy preoccupation with slinging mud at her.

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    5. Anonymous12:20 PM

      11:22 AM

      Maybe. Whoever they are they are obsessed. Look at the number of times they post. They are delusional if they think any of it is effective.

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    6. Anonymous12:54 PM

      11:56AM " I don't have any problem voting for Trump over Clinton"

      Well, you are not a progressive or a democrat or an informed thinker. I pity you. Do you have the faintest idea that Trump is conning you big time? He is a serial liar. How do you have any idea what he stands for(besides himself)? He contradicts himself daily if not hourly. He is depending on non-thinkers like you to elect him President. If you are not the 1% and he becomes the President, you along with most of the country(world) is in deep doo-doo.

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    7. Anonymous1:17 PM

      And like clock work, it shows up!

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    8. Anonymous2:08 PM

      I'm 11:56 and I wasn't talking about myself. There's a work missing in my comment, but it should be clear I was talking about the "star" poster.

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    9. Anonymous2:18 PM

      Sorry 2:08, I read too fast and missed the context.

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    10. Anonymous4:38 PM

      No problem. I agree with everything you wrote. :)

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  14. Anonymous10:13 AM

    Still confident Trump is somehow working for Hillary's benefit. She. is. that. dirty.

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    1. Anonymous10:53 AM

      Calm down and get some perspective.

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    2. Anonymous10:54 AM

      Troll.

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    3. Anonymous12:56 PM

      10:13

      Absurdity beyond silly. What a kook(troll).

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  15. Anonymous10:14 AM

    Dear media folk, the longer you mudsling and try to ruin people's lives by bringing up long-forgotten moments from the past, the longer the US will wait until GOOD people with PURE political intentions choose to run for office.

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    1. Anonymous11:23 AM

      We're back to Palin now? Okey dokey.

      Here's the thing: GOOD and PURE political intentions is an oxymoron any more, and I, as a voting citizen, am allowed to look at past history because it certainly is indicative of future behaviors.

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  16. Anonymous10:17 AM

    Bernie is as much an ass as is Trump! Bernie isn't even a Democrat for crying out loud and he's doing nothing but create havoc and divide within the party and it's leader!

    I know she can't at this point, but I'd love seeing her kick his ass kicked out of the party to which he has no equal thinking or support! The guy is an old, testy, fart who needs to go back to his tiny populated state and smoke dope with wife, Jane, and relax!

    I detest the jerk as much as I do Trump!

    Vote Hillary Clinton folks - she has the experience and can walk into the job in 2017 and do it!

    The other two will create nothing but havoc and the American voters will have no one to blame but themselves!

    One wants a revolution and the other more wars and destruction!! Fuck both of them!

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  17. Anonymous10:42 AM

    The irony of you, of all people, posting something like this is hilarious.
    Because you are definitely doing your damndest to encourage party unity on your blog, right?!
    AhhhhhhhHahahahahahahaaaa!!

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    1. Anonymous10:55 AM

      Defending Hillary is sowing disunity? Maybe if didn't always resort to bringing up rightwing talking points and misogynistic insults we wouldn't have to defend her.

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    2. Anonymous7:52 PM

      You're not defending Hillary so much as bashing Bernie.

      Misogyny?

      Why don't we talk ageism?

      Attack after attack on Bernie, his wife, his politics, his beliefs. And don't leave his supporters out. You know. The "stupid whining children" who should "fuck off".

      Yeah, that's so uniting. That will convince Bernie's supporters so vote for Hillary in November. Because they've been treated so civilly by Hillary's supporters.

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  18. Anonymous10:48 AM

    "John Miller" is one of the names used by Trump when he pretended to be his own PR guy. Coincidence? Probably not.

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  19. Anonymous10:50 AM

    *Bernie!
    And the NYT is reporting in today with the following:
    "The foundation also set up a Canadian subsidiary that effectively shielded some donors from disclosure requirements."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us/politics/election-clinton-foundation.html?_r=0
    Those "missing" emails between State Dept. and the foundation...

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    1. Anonymous11:25 AM

      I love how Hillary has pivoted to the general. It shows us who is still repeating longstanding rightwing talking points & who isn't, esp. in these comments!

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    2. Anonymous11:47 AM

      *Bernie!
      @11:25
      That's today's NYT.
      Last week at this time everyone was piling on Trump about the front page story about his sorry ass treatment of women.
      This week they report TRUTHFULLY about the Clinton Foundation setting up a subsidiary in Canada.
      http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/30/us/politics/canadian-partnership-shielded-identities-of-donors-to-clinton-foundation.html?_r=0&version=meter+at+1&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click
      So it's a right wing talking point to link to a story in the NYT concerning the Clinton foundation?
      What was it called last week when they justifiably kicked Trump's ass?
      Here lemme help ya...
      Following the narrative,truth be damned.

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    3. Anonymous1:18 PM

      There is it again, troll!

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    4. Anonymous1:51 PM

      LOL. Troll, troll, troll, troll.....

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    5. Anonymous7:54 PM

      Right. Anyone that doesn't fall in line and blindly become a Hillary panty sniffer is a troll. Because little Ms. Entitled has done no wrong, has nothing to hide, is such a sure thing. You can't bear for anyone to point out any flaws are weaknesses in the Clinton campaign.

      fool fool fool.

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  20. Anonymous11:17 AM

    Donald Trump recommends guns in classrooms. What do teachers say?
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/1004/Donald-Trump-recommends-guns-in-classrooms.-What-do-teachers-say

    "It was a gun-free zone (Trump Tower, Mar-a-Lago where anyone can take a leak).... I’ll tell you, if you had a couple of the teachers or someone with guns in that room, you would have been a hell of a lot better off ..." Donald Trump

    The man that shows us he knows his way with a weapon.
    http://i.hurimg.com/i/hurriyet/90/0x0/5615814ff018fb6340d65adb

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    1. Holy hot damn, that bitch looks like Stephen Tyler. No offence to Stephen Tyler or bitches.

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    2. Anonymous1:08 PM

      He said "some" classrooms...changed per yesterday.

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    3. Anita Winecooler5:31 PM

      What does Trump do all day? Says dumb things, follows twitter, and calls people names. Something tells me Melania's getting her affection elsewhere. She's already second in line to her stepdaughter.

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  21. Anonymous11:33 AM

    Of coarse they are going to play dirty. Trump is known for that. Ah well. Yeah, I was wondering about how all of a sudden there was this division of Democrats like the Republicans. I thought how is this possible when we were together last Fall? Typical covert manipulation. But if people are strong minded on what they believe, I'm sure they can't be swayed. And I did notice that there are Trump trolls and Sarah Trolls on this blog. But they do add spice.

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  22. Anonymous12:56 PM

    So what does that make you Gryph lol?

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  23. Anonymous1:30 PM

    I don't know about any Trump trolls, I base my opinion solely on what Sanders and his campaign say. They are hateful enough, they hate Hillary Clinton and they hate Democrats- and the shit they say and do is outrageous and disgusts me.

    Who needs Trump's paid idiots?

    I especially don't need the ones that are allowed to post here.

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  24. I am a Hillary person myself and I have never said anything bad about Bernie. I have family and friends who support Bernie. The reasons they support him are varied but they aren't all pot smokers, young people who want free college and healthcare. My 75 year old mom who has been a lifelong liberal is also supporting Bernie. All but one will vote for Hillary when the general election comes.

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  25. Anita Winecooler5:36 PM

    Politics and Sausage making can become ugly. I'm still voting for Hillary.

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