Morality is not determined by the church you attend nor the faith you embrace. It is determined by the quality of your character and the positive impact you have on those you meet along your journey
I have never in my almost 70 years seen anything like the voters (so-called) of today. If their candidate isn't nominated for the presidency they don't want to support/vote for the one who is nominated. They even seem to want to sabotage the Democrat who did win the nomination, their own party (allegedly). It use to be when your candidate did not win the nomination, the Democrats banned together and invested their support in the Democrat who did win.
Second thought, I do believe many of these people are NOT Democrats at all, but just agitators working for the Republican party. They were never going to vote for ANY Democrat in the first place. Also I believe many of them don't vote anyway.
ugluenza has lots of dirty dirt for Hilary and Bernie to exploit and broadcast. And it aint nice. But ugluenza and his magic fingers will hire the best hateful media marketing firm in the usa to destroy and abuse anyone and everyone. rump has his own fosters and so do those babbering talking rumps.
Meanwhile.....nicky the handler for the famous McCain/palin ticket explains the vetting process. And the panel explains hugely and loudly all the scandals in their life and how trump will be the face of it. Oh how sweet it is. Oh can you see? America the Beautiful. This election is a perfect example of the toxic waste in American politics. The world is watching. and it is butthole ugly uglenza standing on a soapbox screeching.
Seriously, didn't all you Palin obsessed claim that if the Palins would stop posting to their social media (that apparently you all had no choice to be 'bombarded by' (and be 'bombarded by' meaning you actually had to search out their social media accounts and hang out there for a while investigating every picture))... that you could finally stop talking about them?
You Palin obsessed aren't hypocrites are you? Noooo couldn't be.
What part of this rigged election system don't you want to see? District rigging, electronic voting machines, paying off delegates, lying, cheating, stealing, RIGGING. Yep. Anyone that cannot admit or see it is part of the citizen united crime against America. Where are the journalist on this issue? oh that's right, the media owns them.
Here's a REAL picture of some Hillary supporters: http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2015/04/21/meet-the-hookers-for-hillary-why-prostitutes-want-hillary-clinton-for-president/jcr:content/image.img.2000.jpg/1432135313376.cached.jpg We can play this silly ass game all day long...
Well good for them. Nice to see people of all walks of life taking an interest in politics.
I think prostitution should be legal in all states by the way so that the women can receive good health care, have a safe work environment, and no longer fear contacting the police when they are victimized.
Gryphen, sex workers don't want it 'legalized'; they want it 'decriminalized'.
... big difference. Legalization puts too much power in the hands of the pimps, whereas decriminalization puts the money and the power in the hands of the people doing the work.
As a child of the Sixties, I lived through all of that, and it's ridiculous to draw Sanders supporters as dirty hippies. Really, Gryphen, it's not worthy of you.
By the way I did not see that illustration as representing hippies.
However when I attended the caucus in Anchorage I interacted with a number of Bernie supporters and a lot of them were quite young and presented as counterculture. In fact one young man I talked to could have literally been the model for that gentleman in the cartoon.
By the way I focused on the message of the illustration, which is why I posted it.
5:23 1. Gryphen didn't draw the picture he posted a cartoon he found on line
2. The sanders supporter depicted isn't dirty-he has long hair and a beard with jeans and a tee shirt on!!!
And for what it's worth the hippies of the sixties for the most part were unkempt-the real haight ash bury /Woodstock hippies at least-not so much the suburban hippies. I am an urban hippy type myself but I know that Charles Manson for example was a hippy and lived in a commune with other hippies. The sixties was NOT all peace and love. There were lots of drugs and violence as well.
All of that being said the picture depicts a fairly standard drawing of a hippy for cartoon value.
Perhaps you can't remember the PUMA movement, but those of us that don't subscribe to hysterical pronouncements do. It's time for all those crying out and tearing out their hair to calm down, and I include you BOBs, take a deep breath and realize that this too shall pass. Hillary did not concede until 4 days after the primaries ended and the wailing and gnashing of the teeth was on a scale of now, it plainly didn't cause the apocalypse, it actually mattered not at all in the end. I call for all of you to calm the fuck down and we will overcome the Anti-Christ (Trump) in the general election. Gryphon, I applaud your passion, but I call to your better, more intelligent self to be the blogger we have come to rely upon to report, give your opinion, but remain a bit outside the fray, as being too close to the trees, one cannot see the forest...
Gryphen has never held himself out to be a journalist and is decidedly entitled to express his opinion (even if it's lone) on his blog which is obviously pixelated with his blood, sweat and tears.
Gryph still making the assumption that the majority of people voting for Bernie are or should be 'Clinton' Democrats. They are Bernie democrats and independents, of which a large portion absolutely cannot stand Hillary, and would gladly see ANYONE in office but Hillary. They want change.
When is it actually going to dawn on you and get thru your hard head that Hillary is a tremendously flawed and unlikeable candidate- for a large portion of the population anyways.
When are you going to understand that the republican option will be disastrous for this country? When you you get it through your thick skull that it isn't about likability? This isn't a pageant voting for miss congeniality. We're looking for a president. Are you a teenager? Tell us exactly why you don't like hillary. I can guarantee it is sexist bullshit, where you are holding her to a higher standard than any other politician.
Maybe you should get behind a candidate who can actually get something passed Congress. If that was your leader,wouldn't have done some of his freebie plans in the last 30 years? Now that he is showing signs of dementia,he finally decides to try and convince the public that he can give them things for free?
Lol sorry to disappoint you 10:12, I will be voting my conscience which will likely be a 3rd party candidate. But as far as providing political observation, Hillary was at her peak when the primaries started, she has been steadily going downhill since, and that will continue thru the general. She has no wind behind her back. She will continue to struggle with 3 decades of Clinton baggage, not to mention the ultra-fresh Clinton scandals.
She is a loser, Bernie has momentum and polls better against Trump than Hillary.
So while the DNC propped up this weak candidate to win the democratic nomination, she will fall to Trump.
I'd like to know when it gets through his head that insulting Bernie supporters is NOT going to win them over to vote for Hillary.
In fact, he is inciting the exact opposite.
So, when the Bernie supporters decide to sit the election out because they're tired of being called fucking children, you have only yourself to blame, Gryphen. You and the rest of the Bernie bashers will have gotten what you wished for. You drove the Bernie supporters away with your insults and your nastiness. And perhaps not just for November but for may elections to come.
Sure they won't vote for Trump, but they may not vote for Hillary either. They may not vote at all.
Be careful what you wish for.
And ask yourself. Was it worth it for a few seconds of gloat? Was the giggle worth losing those votes?
Because the more Gryphen posts this crap, the more people he will alienate until they just decide to do as they're told; go fuck off. Never to return.
Rather than comment on each defense or interpretation of what Gryph "meant" when he posted the cartoon,I'll say he selected one of many available to push his narrative.He's in the bag for Hillary and will push the "stereotype" of Bernie backers. Yesterday he called a couple of Bernie's committee selections "bomb throwers". We all know they throw chairs,right? And posting unflattering pics of Bernie to accompany posts making fun of him. And posting the lovely beatific pictures of Hillary on ALL posts with her.
His blog and his prerogative to do it.
Oh wait!I found a pic of Hillary that tells it.. http://img.ifcdn.com/images/34527624d783385366a6ee624fd513da8252e1c3470fe89bcb12fb11a53e608a_1.jpg
Just because fate finds Gryphen in the bag for Hillary and me in the bag for Bernie doesn't mean we can't all be friends since we're trying to look out for each other. It's the Republicans whispering "what's in it for me, jack?"
We can debate without calling each other "stupid" and make our cases without shouting out comments on anyone's physical characteristics or personal environment.
I thank The Ether that our choices are people like Hillary and Bernie, and not people like Drumpf and Cruz.
I pray to The Ether that we don't have to undermine each other to find food in a zombie apocalypse.
@9:15 8:03 here. I agree with you on the name calling here. In no particular order I've been told: "fuck off" "you're a loser" yada yada... The rabidness of some of the posters here makes one wonder if some of the Kool-aid from the pee-pond got delivered to the wrong person.
There is a shit-stirring troll(s) frequenting this blog ~ no doubt this blog on their list of sites to vandalize to the benefit of the Republicans. I am not talking about the heartfelt Hillary and/or Bernie supporters.
The troll army is fairly easy to discern due to Gryphen's type of commentors don't post walls of copy and paste with no hint of a comment of their own. Gryphen's posters like to bash $arah Paylin, but only for comic relief and otherwise are respectful and thoughtful.
@11:30 "Gryphen's type of commentors don't post walls of copy and paste with no hint of a comment of their own." C'mon now. Page after page here is littered with long cut and paste quotes from articles followed by the link all about good Hillary/bad Bernie.
"otherwise are respectful and thoughtful." Telling people to "fuck off" and calling them "losers"? Ri-i-i-ight...
Well, Gryphen brings it all on himself by allowing the "Anonymous" instead of requiring that everyone post using a name or handle of some sort. Who doesn't have a google account? Or Live Journal or Wordpress? But no. He allows they to hide behind Anonymous and thus be unaccountable for their vitriol. He's so "democratic" he's allowed his own blog to be poisoned by trolls who are all Anonymous.
There isn't even the pretense of courtesy any more. He openly allows personal attacks because, hey, they're just Bernie supporters so they don't deserve to be treated civilly.
"“There’s more of us than you think,” he said to her. “We’re crashing the plane. No survivors.” "http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-american-renaissance-2016-conference
That said, the vast majority of Sanders supporters are Dems, and will rally behind the nominee come November.
The 'Bernie or Bust' wing are the exception, not the rule. Many of them wouldn't even have been involved in the process in the first place were it not for Sanders' candidacy.
The fact of the matter is that Hillary Clinton may not be the strongest candidate in this unique election cycle. She represents business as usual and the establishment at a time when there is a clear desire from both sides of the aisle to 'shake things up.'
Perhaps cognizant of the fact that Hillary very possibly could lose in a race against Trump, some are preemptively assigning blame for such an outcome on 'Bernie or Bust'ers.
If you get your dream candidate and she can't close the deal, it's not on Bernie. You make your bed, you lie in it.
Right now,Trump has nothing negative to say about old Bernie.Can you even begin to imagine the attacks should he win the race,then try to imagine the response from Bernie? Lot's of blubbering and denial and yelling and shaking.
Those who would allow a Trump presidency over a Clinton presidency are faux progressives. It doesn't take much in cognitive thinking to realize that Hillary is a million times better than trump as SANDERS has said himself.
I agree that all the teeth gnashing is over the top and yes 2008 caused much acrimony however Hillary supporters did come around to our Obama!
Instead of trying to label other people in some way that suits the world as you see it thru your rose colored glasses, maybe you should simply recognize and respect that other people have an individual vote just like you do. And just because they choose to vote differently than you do, does not make it any less important or reasoned than yours.
BTW Hillary in the general is almost certain to cement a Trump presidency.
8:38 See that is why you are losing those of us who were open to bernie or Hillary!! All that venomous muck you all always toss at us if we try to be pragmatic and reasonable.
You tell us HOW a trump presidency is better than a Clinton presidency and please try to not insult us. Thank you very much.
6:01 just because you think being "half Hispanic and African American and a woman" with fake attitude gives you special powers of political insight, it doesn't. I'll bet you have a fat ass too.
The DNC did the same thing with John Kerry. They hand picked him and made sure he was the candidate because they were sure he was so strong he would win.
Look how that turned out.
And he didn't have nearly the baggage that Hillary Clinton has.
The 'Bernie or Bust' sign should say 'Hillary or Bust' and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz should be holding it wearing a DNC t-shirt. If Trump is elected president, the DNC will be to blame.
Don't dare claim you aren't biased and are not pushing Hillary. This so obviously is a license to bash any and all Bernie supporters.
I guess the Constitution is null and void and we aren't allowed to choose our own candidates but must fall in line with the Party's choice. Woe be to anyone that refuses to goose step in line.
And way to get the Bernie supporters to vote for Hillary. How could anyone resist such a lovely, courteous invitation.
oh that was unfairly hugely ugly bold. I don't believe that President Sanders supporters look like that. That must be a defected huge rump zit.
ReplyDeleteI have never in my almost 70 years seen anything like the voters (so-called) of today. If their candidate isn't nominated for the presidency they don't want to support/vote for the one who is nominated. They even seem to want to sabotage the Democrat who did win the nomination, their own party (allegedly).
DeleteIt use to be when your candidate did not win the nomination, the Democrats banned together and invested their support in the Democrat who did win.
Second thought, I do believe many of these people are NOT Democrats at all, but just agitators working for the Republican party. They were never going to vote for ANY Democrat in the first place. Also I believe many of them don't vote anyway.
ugluenza has lots of dirty dirt for Hilary and Bernie to exploit and broadcast. And it aint nice. But ugluenza and his magic fingers will hire the best hateful media marketing firm in the usa to destroy and abuse anyone and everyone. rump has his own fosters and so do those babbering talking rumps.
ReplyDeleteGive it a rest.
ReplyDeleteThank you. Hillary is a weak candidate with high negatives and her supporters knew this from the start. If she loses, it won't be because of Sanders.
DeleteMeanwhile.....nicky the handler for the famous McCain/palin ticket explains the vetting process. And the panel explains hugely and loudly all the scandals in their life and how trump will be the face of it. Oh how sweet it is. Oh can you see? America the Beautiful. This election is a perfect example of the toxic waste in American politics. The world is watching. and it is butthole ugly uglenza standing on a soapbox screeching.
ReplyDeleteTotally grateful for the silence but why have Palin's went silent on all medias?
ReplyDeleteSeriously, didn't all you Palin obsessed claim that if the Palins would stop posting to their social media (that apparently you all had no choice to be 'bombarded by' (and be 'bombarded by' meaning you actually had to search out their social media accounts and hang out there for a while investigating every picture))... that you could finally stop talking about them?
DeleteYou Palin obsessed aren't hypocrites are you? Noooo couldn't be.
613, why are you here? What do you get out of attacking everyone? Grow the hell up.
DeleteAwwwe 7:29 got his feefees hurted.
DeleteSince the Plain family has been in our faces these last 8 yrs,it does warrant asking if they fell off a cliff? Not that we care.
DeleteWhat part of this rigged election system don't you want to see? District rigging, electronic voting machines, paying off delegates, lying, cheating, stealing, RIGGING. Yep. Anyone that cannot admit or see it is part of the citizen united crime against America. Where are the journalist on this issue? oh that's right, the media owns them.
ReplyDeletehttp://f.tqn.com/y/politicalhumor/1/S/z/c/1/hillary_queen_usa.jpg
ReplyDeleteScary...and totally see what you mean
ReplyDeleteHere's a REAL picture of some Hillary supporters:
ReplyDeletehttp://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2015/04/21/meet-the-hookers-for-hillary-why-prostitutes-want-hillary-clinton-for-president/jcr:content/image.img.2000.jpg/1432135313376.cached.jpg
We can play this silly ass game all day long...
Well good for them. Nice to see people of all walks of life taking an interest in politics.
DeleteI think prostitution should be legal in all states by the way so that the women can receive good health care, have a safe work environment, and no longer fear contacting the police when they are victimized.
BRAVO Gryphen!
DeleteP.S. OR so the "P"s don't just demand it for FREEdom.
Gryphen, sex workers don't want it 'legalized'; they want it 'decriminalized'.
Delete... big difference. Legalization puts too much power in the hands of the pimps, whereas decriminalization puts the money and the power in the hands of the people doing the work.
And they need to declare their income and pay taxes.
DeleteAs a child of the Sixties, I lived through all of that, and it's ridiculous to draw Sanders supporters as dirty hippies.
ReplyDeleteReally, Gryphen, it's not worthy of you.
I am also a child of the sixties.
DeleteBy the way I did not see that illustration as representing hippies.
However when I attended the caucus in Anchorage I interacted with a number of Bernie supporters and a lot of them were quite young and presented as counterculture. In fact one young man I talked to could have literally been the model for that gentleman in the cartoon.
By the way I focused on the message of the illustration, which is why I posted it.
As a real child of the Sixties,it was a time of asking to be free to have sex,do drugs,not work,not pay taxes,and live communally. A lot of that fits.
Delete5:23
ReplyDelete1. Gryphen didn't draw the picture he posted a cartoon he found on line
2. The sanders supporter depicted isn't dirty-he has long hair and a beard with jeans and a tee shirt on!!!
And for what it's worth the hippies of the sixties for the most part were unkempt-the real haight ash bury /Woodstock hippies at least-not so much the suburban hippies.
I am an urban hippy type myself but I know that Charles Manson for example was a hippy and lived in a commune with other hippies. The sixties was NOT all peace and love. There were lots of drugs and violence as well.
All of that being said the picture depicts a fairly standard drawing of a hippy for cartoon value.
Perhaps you can't remember the PUMA movement, but those of us that don't subscribe to hysterical pronouncements do. It's time for all those crying out and tearing out their hair to calm down, and I include you BOBs, take a deep breath and realize that this too shall pass. Hillary did not concede until 4 days after the primaries ended and the wailing and gnashing of the teeth was on a scale of now, it plainly didn't cause the apocalypse, it actually mattered not at all in the end.
ReplyDeleteI call for all of you to calm the fuck down and we will overcome the Anti-Christ (Trump) in the general election.
Gryphon, I applaud your passion, but I call to your better, more intelligent self to be the blogger we have come to rely upon to report, give your opinion, but remain a bit outside the fray, as being too close to the trees, one cannot see the forest...
Thank you.
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Gryphen has never held himself out to be a journalist and is decidedly entitled to express his opinion (even if it's lone) on his blog which is obviously pixelated with his blood, sweat and tears.
DeleteGryph still making the assumption that the majority of people voting for Bernie are or should be 'Clinton' Democrats. They are Bernie democrats and independents, of which a large portion absolutely cannot stand Hillary, and would gladly see ANYONE in office but Hillary. They want change.
ReplyDeleteWhen is it actually going to dawn on you and get thru your hard head that Hillary is a tremendously flawed and unlikeable candidate- for a large portion of the population anyways.
When are you going to understand that the republican option will be disastrous for this country? When you you get it through your thick skull that it isn't about likability? This isn't a pageant voting for miss congeniality. We're looking for a president. Are you a teenager? Tell us exactly why you don't like hillary. I can guarantee it is sexist bullshit, where you are holding her to a higher standard than any other politician.
DeleteLol 7:39.
DeleteMaybe we should just do away with voting and crown your candidate of choice.
7:39, if you are soooo worried about a republican presidency, then maybe you should get behind the candidate who can carry the general vote.
Deleteps- that candidate is not Hillary.
Duuuuuuhhhhhhh.
Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
DeleteMaybe you should get behind a candidate who can actually get something passed Congress. If that was your leader,wouldn't have done some of his freebie plans in the last 30 years? Now that he is showing signs of dementia,he finally decides to try and convince the public that he can give them things for free?
Lol sorry to disappoint you 10:12, I will be voting my conscience which will likely be a 3rd party candidate. But as far as providing political observation, Hillary was at her peak when the primaries started, she has been steadily going downhill since, and that will continue thru the general. She has no wind behind her back. She will continue to struggle with 3 decades of Clinton baggage, not to mention the ultra-fresh Clinton scandals.
DeleteShe is a loser, Bernie has momentum and polls better against Trump than Hillary.
So while the DNC propped up this weak candidate to win the democratic nomination, she will fall to Trump.
I'd like to know when it gets through his head that insulting Bernie supporters is NOT going to win them over to vote for Hillary.
DeleteIn fact, he is inciting the exact opposite.
So, when the Bernie supporters decide to sit the election out because they're tired of being called fucking children, you have only yourself to blame, Gryphen. You and the rest of the Bernie bashers will have gotten what you wished for. You drove the Bernie supporters away with your insults and your nastiness. And perhaps not just for November but for may elections to come.
Sure they won't vote for Trump, but they may not vote for Hillary either. They may not vote at all.
Be careful what you wish for.
And ask yourself. Was it worth it for a few seconds of gloat? Was the giggle worth losing those votes?
Because the more Gryphen posts this crap, the more people he will alienate until they just decide to do as they're told; go fuck off. Never to return.
Rather than comment on each defense or interpretation of what Gryph "meant" when he posted the cartoon,I'll say he selected one of many available to push his narrative.He's in the bag for Hillary and will push the "stereotype" of Bernie backers.
ReplyDeleteYesterday he called a couple of Bernie's committee selections "bomb throwers".
We all know they throw chairs,right?
And posting unflattering pics of Bernie to accompany posts making fun of him.
And posting the lovely beatific pictures of Hillary on ALL posts with her.
His blog and his prerogative to do it.
Oh wait!I found a pic of Hillary that tells it..
http://img.ifcdn.com/images/34527624d783385366a6ee624fd513da8252e1c3470fe89bcb12fb11a53e608a_1.jpg
Just because fate finds Gryphen in the bag for Hillary and me in the bag for Bernie doesn't mean we can't all be friends since we're trying to look out for each other. It's the Republicans whispering "what's in it for me, jack?"
DeleteWe can debate without calling each other "stupid" and make our cases without shouting out comments on anyone's physical characteristics or personal environment.
I thank The Ether that our choices are people like Hillary and Bernie, and not people like Drumpf and Cruz.
I pray to The Ether that we don't have to undermine each other to find food in a zombie apocalypse.
@9:15
Delete8:03 here.
I agree with you on the name calling here.
In no particular order I've been told:
"fuck off"
"you're a loser"
yada yada...
The rabidness of some of the posters here makes one wonder if some of the Kool-aid from the pee-pond got delivered to the wrong person.
9:34
DeleteIf you can't see it's coming from both sides,you are intentionally blind.
There is a shit-stirring troll(s) frequenting this blog ~ no doubt this blog on their list of sites to vandalize to the benefit of the Republicans. I am not talking about the heartfelt Hillary and/or Bernie supporters.
DeleteThe troll army is fairly easy to discern due to Gryphen's type of commentors don't post walls of copy and paste with no hint of a comment of their own. Gryphen's posters like to bash $arah Paylin, but only for comic relief and otherwise are respectful and thoughtful.
@11:30
Delete"Gryphen's type of commentors don't post walls of copy and paste with no hint of a comment of their own."
C'mon now.
Page after page here is littered with long cut and paste quotes from articles followed by the link all about good Hillary/bad Bernie.
"otherwise are respectful and thoughtful."
Telling people to "fuck off" and calling them "losers"?
Ri-i-i-ight...
Well, Gryphen brings it all on himself by allowing the "Anonymous" instead of requiring that everyone post using a name or handle of some sort. Who doesn't have a google account? Or Live Journal or Wordpress? But no. He allows they to hide behind Anonymous and thus be unaccountable for their vitriol. He's so "democratic" he's allowed his own blog to be poisoned by trolls who are all Anonymous.
DeleteThere isn't even the pretense of courtesy any more. He openly allows personal attacks because, hey, they're just Bernie supporters so they don't deserve to be treated civilly.
"“There’s more of us than you think,” he said to her. “We’re crashing the plane. No survivors.”
ReplyDelete"http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-american-renaissance-2016-conference
If Bernie supporters are supposed to 'face reality and do the math,' Hillary's should do the same:
ReplyDeleteFavorable/Unfavorable:
Trump: -17
Clinton: -16
Sanders: +8
That said, the vast majority of Sanders supporters are Dems, and will rally behind the nominee come November.
The 'Bernie or Bust' wing are the exception, not the rule. Many of them wouldn't even have been involved in the process in the first place were it not for Sanders' candidacy.
The fact of the matter is that Hillary Clinton may not be the strongest candidate in this unique election cycle. She represents business as usual and the establishment at a time when there is a clear desire from both sides of the aisle to 'shake things up.'
Perhaps cognizant of the fact that Hillary very possibly could lose in a race against Trump, some are preemptively assigning blame for such an outcome on 'Bernie or Bust'ers.
If you get your dream candidate and she can't close the deal, it's not on Bernie. You make your bed, you lie in it.
By the way, in '08, half of Clinton's supporters claimed they would not vote, or support the Republican candidate (wtf was his name...?).
DeleteIn the end, they by and large supported Obama.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/06/exit-polls-half-of-clintons-supporters-wont-back-obama/comment-page-5/
Right now,Trump has nothing negative to say about old Bernie.Can you even begin to imagine the attacks should he win the race,then try to imagine the response from Bernie? Lot's of blubbering and denial and yelling and shaking.
Delete7:39 YES!
ReplyDeleteThose who would allow a Trump presidency over a Clinton presidency are faux progressives. It doesn't take much in cognitive thinking to realize that Hillary is a million times better than trump as SANDERS has said himself.
I agree that all the teeth gnashing is over the top and yes 2008 caused much acrimony however Hillary supporters did come around to our Obama!
Instead of trying to label other people in some way that suits the world as you see it thru your rose colored glasses, maybe you should simply recognize and respect that other people have an individual vote just like you do. And just because they choose to vote differently than you do, does not make it any less important or reasoned than yours.
DeleteBTW Hillary in the general is almost certain to cement a Trump presidency.
8:38
DeleteTell that to your dementia addled cult leader.
I have no leader. But I know that Hillary is a weak propped up candidate that will lose to Trump. It is that simple.
Delete8:38
DeleteSee that is why you are losing those of us who were open to bernie or Hillary!! All that venomous muck you all always toss at us if we try to be pragmatic and reasonable.
You tell us HOW a trump presidency is better than a Clinton presidency and please try to not insult us.
Thank you very much.
Oh and your Hillary nomination comment that it would cement a Trump win- exactly in which country do you speak of where this would happen?
DeleteHispanics, African Americans and women. Hillary's supporters all. Being half Hispanic and African American and a woman try to tell me I am wrong:)
6:01 just because you think being "half Hispanic and African American and a woman" with fake attitude gives you special powers of political insight, it doesn't. I'll bet you have a fat ass too.
DeleteThe DNC did the same thing with John Kerry. They hand picked him and made sure he was the candidate because they were sure he was so strong he would win.
DeleteLook how that turned out.
And he didn't have nearly the baggage that Hillary Clinton has.
The 'Bernie or Bust' sign should say 'Hillary or Bust' and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz should be holding it wearing a DNC t-shirt. If Trump is elected president, the DNC will be to blame.
ReplyDeleteThat is fucking bullshit.
ReplyDeleteNice to see you so 'fair and balanced', Gryphen.
Don't dare claim you aren't biased and are not pushing Hillary. This so obviously is a license to bash any and all Bernie supporters.
I guess the Constitution is null and void and we aren't allowed to choose our own candidates but must fall in line with the Party's choice. Woe be to anyone that refuses to goose step in line.
And way to get the Bernie supporters to vote for Hillary. How could anyone resist such a lovely, courteous invitation.
You're not even using vinegar. You're using acid.