Monday, June 13, 2016

Bernie Sanders to meet with Hillary Clinton on Tuesday. Will he finally concede, or is he looking for a deal first?

Courtesy of The Hill: 

“I will be meeting with Secretary Clinton on Tuesday evening, I believe,” he said. “And we will be chatting about her campaign.” 

Sanders said he wants to get a sense of what kind of platform Clinton will be supporting and “whether she will be vigorous in standing up for working families and the middle class, moving aggressively in climate change, healthcare for all, making public colleges and universities tuition-free.” 

“After we have that kind of discussion and after we can determine whether or not we are going to have a strong and progressive platform, I will be able to make other decisions.”

Sounds like Bernie wants to play a little hard balls to me.

Well based on statements made in the past I would not be surprised to learn that he wants Hillary to agree to allow him to pick her running mate and at least half of the members of her cabinet.

Personally I hope that Hillary stands strong, and if Bernie starts trying to push her around, simply reminds him that she won fair and square, despite what his followers may believe, and losers have no say over what winners do moving forward.

71 comments:

  1. Anonymous2:25 AM

    Nice of you to follow yesterday with another hate blog.

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    1. Anonymous3:13 AM

      You certainly have an interesting definition of 'hate.' It appears that anything that goes against YOUR beliefs you classify as hate. Sorry, pumpkin, Gryph speaks the truth. You just don't want to hear it. Why don't you go pout in the corner?

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    2. Anonymous3:34 AM

      Not sure if Saunders wants the VP slot or not but perhaps it would be in the country's best interest if Clinton were to adopt some of Bernie's platform. Having a Progressive like Warren as VP wouldn't hurt either. Would love to see the U.S. catch up with other first world countries when it comes to social issues.

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    3. Anonymous3:49 AM

      He speaks it like a hate filled asshole, not to mention his lies.

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    4. Anonymous3:50 AM

      @3:13
      We're gonna be gettin' the truth!
      http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/12/wikileaks-to-publish-more-hillary-clinton-emails-julian-assange
      And no,I'm not for Trump.

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    5. Anonymous3:54 AM

      He got over 40% of the vote and deserves a place at the table.
      Hillary best watch her tone...

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    6. Funny. I have never ran into so many hateful and stupid people in my life as Bernie supporters. At a Hillary rally and a convention. BERNIE OR BUST. Stupid.

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    7. "Hillary best watch her tone" = classic misogyny, 3:54.

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    8. Anonymous5:18 AM

      @4:57
      Wow.

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    9. Anonymous6:18 AM

      Anonymous3:54 AM
      Hillary got way more than that in 2008. Then she nominated Barack from the convention floor and campaigned Her heart fir him, and didn't choose his VP or his cabinet.

      What has BERNIE done and what will HE do?

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    10. Anonymous6:42 AM

      The poster who writes the same anti-HRC screeds (all debunked years ago) is back on this thread saying the same things over and over and over and over and...

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    11. Anonymous6:52 AM


      To Anonymous3:54 AM
      He got over 40% of the vote and deserves a place at the table. Hillary best watch her tone...

      Bullshit. He lost. Didn't even get half the votes. Isn't a Democrat. Couldn't follow the rules. Old white man entitlement stops here. Hope she shuts him down.

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    12. "Hillary best watch her tone..."
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      Seriously? Hillary won. Maybe Sanders needs to watch his tone.

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    13. Anonymous8:50 AM

      @ anon 3:34 am
      Maybe you don't understand the development process of the Democratic Party platform. But it is NOT developed by the Party's nominee every 4 yrs, it is developed by Democrats from all over this country, ideas for platform changes are brought forward from the voting http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2016/06/now-even-members-of-congress-are.html#comment-formrecinct level and then voted on by interested party members who are active all the way up to the nat'l level by the Democratic process of a vote at each level. What you are suggesting is to ignore hard working Democrats from around this nation and the proposals THEY want voted on and throw those out the window and let one person have his way with the party platform? Sorry, if that's what Bernie wanted he should stayed with the Communist Party where that dictator shit happens. Maybe Bernie should have read a book or talked to someone about how the party works before he joined to use it.
      BTW I have seen proposals get brought up at a voting precinct level in a town of 800 voters go through the process and arrive on the nat'l floor during the convention to be voted on and pass as a change to the party platform, Bernie has NO RIGHT to try and take that process away from the mebers of the Democratic Party.
      Oh, and Hillary would never be stupid enough to even ask that Senile old angry white guy to be on the ticket.

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  2. Both would be very smart to pick running mates notably younger than themselves. Trump is going to be 70 tomorrow, and while I love Hillz and she's got my vote, the summer flower of her years are behind her. Warren fills the bill on that point, and her intelligence and ferocity are reassuring.

    On a far less cerebral note, I miss Martin O'Malley and his handsome face, and his strong arms and his bare chest (you can Google them). Don't bash; I know the seriousness of this election, but the long plod to November could only be easier with a little sex appeal.

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    1. Anonymous2:50 AM

      Elizabeth Warren is less than 2 years younger than Hillary Clinton, so doesn't fit the bill of "notably younger". A good VP choice but about the same age.

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    2. Anonymous2:58 AM

      I like Elizabeth Warren and would like her as a VP nominee, but saying she brings youth to the ticket is ridiculous. She turns 67 this month.

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    3. Anonymous3:11 AM

      Oh please. McCain tried that with little old mommy of a special needs kid Sarah. Hillary needs to choose the person she wants to work with for the next eight years. Period.

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  3. Anonymous2:51 AM

    We need Warren's vote in Congress desperately. Hillary can get any suit to be VP.

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    1. Balzafiar4:40 AM

      Not true. The running mate has to be someone qualified to be President in case she becomes incapacitated. I realize that requirement hasn't always been fulfilled, but it should be.

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    2. Anonymous5:02 AM

      Al Franken said he doubted there is any sitting democratic US senator who would not say yes to being VP.

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  4. Anonymous3:38 AM

    Too bad she is bothering to even meet with the old goat.

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    1. Anonymous6:48 AM

      +1. He has no leverage anymore because he lost so many of the final primaries, including tomorrow. This is all ego-saving blather on his part so his mob-like troops still remaining (the Libertarians, e.g. Bernie Or Bust) don't turn on him viciously. But they will. He's capitulating as you read these words; they will call Sanders a sell-out like they said of Warren. Right? Right?

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    2. Anonymous11:21 AM

      Hillary meeting with Bernie means nothing to us that support him.

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    3. Anonymous12:09 PM

      11:21 - does the same go for his endorsement of HRC, because that's coming, too?

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    4. Anita Winecooler4:35 PM

      She's very wise to meet Bernie, it's magnanimous of her, shows she doesn't hold any grudges against him, and it'll help heal the divisions in the party.

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  5. Anonymous4:08 AM

    Hillary has pick an orangutan as her VP or she will lose the orange vote by a big margin.

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  6. I think he will and should do both - make a concession bargain.

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    1. Anonymous6:50 AM

      Platform bargains mean nothing. Sure, give him platform points--anything to assuage his ego.

      For someone whose hashtag was #NotMeUs, his campaign is ending with #MeMeMe.

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    2. Anonymous8:59 AM

      Fuck Bernie, he has no right to make platform changes as one individual in the Party, the Democratic Party doesn't let one commie come in and change the process that you seem to know so little about.

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    3. Anonymous12:32 PM

      Anon @ 8:59 AM - You seem nice.

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    4. ibwilliamsi12:35 PM

      Anon @ 6:50 AM Please point out where I mentioned "platform".

      While I agree he's been an asshat, he could bring voters with him if he walks away with his ego assuaged. With the race we have this year and people's right to vote being trampled upon, why would that be a bad thing?

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    5. Anonymous3:45 PM

      ibwilliamsi - You didn't mention platform point concessions above but Bernie has. That's what he's saying he's all about at the moment. Sorry to ascribe something to you that you did not intend.

      My point is only that his "victories" are merely pyrrhic ones at this juncture. The Bernie or Bust people have yet to figure that out.

      It seems ironic that we must go through so much hand-wringing to assuage loser Bernie's ego at the end--just so he can have an exit strategy, when his hashtag was "#NotMeUs."

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    6. Anonymous5:06 PM

      @ iwilliamstrampled upon seem to have left your mind. There is a process, set forth in the Democratic Party to let voices be heard but you are seemingly forgetting everyone else's voices but Bernie's.

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  7. Anonymous5:01 AM

    Get off the stage old man.

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  8. Anonymous6:06 AM

    Both HRC and Bernie and ALL of us should TAKE HEED with this information >
    http://www.salon.com/2016/06/13/this_is_how_the_gop_rigged_congress_the_secret_plan_that_handcuffed_obamas_presidency_but_backfired_in_donald_trump/

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  9. Anonymous6:18 AM

    When Japan lost the war, did Japan dictate what they wanted?

    When Nazi Germany lost the war did they dictate what they wanted?

    In 2008, when Hillary Clinton lost the presidential primaries, did Hillary dictate terms to the winner Barack Obama?

    Maybe in a Socialist country the loser dictates the direction of the country.

    Bernie this is America! Take your old Independent ass back to Vermont with your ugly ass wife and

    Feel The Burn!

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    1. Anonymous6:50 AM

      Hear Hear! He infuriates me.

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    2. Anonymous11:28 AM

      Perhaps President Obama should also have let the GOP pick his cabinet and his platform in 2008 and 2012. That would Sanders and his supporters' logic.

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    3. Anonymous12:16 PM

      That's the problem with these Sanders hating Clinton idiots, they think this is a war between Sanders and Clinton. How deluded can you idiots get. After reading this garbage, I hope Sanders doesn't endorse Clinton.

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    4. Anonymous6:11 PM

      12:16 - But he's going to. Get ready!

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  10. Anonymous6:26 AM

    Anonymous3:54 AM,

    In 2008, Hillary got 48% of the popular vote. They were almost evenly split. She would have had reason to be very bitter. But she got over it and did the right thing in the end.

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  11. Anonymous6:55 AM

    Bernie sounds more delusional by the day.
    Sorry old dude. The loser doesn't get to dictate anything to the winner.

    Go home and look through your taxes. If you're proud of your financial dealings, release them, just for fun. Prove you're not the hypocrite lots of us believe you are.

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  12. Anonymous7:39 AM

    THANK YOU LAWD!

    It was a good thing the Civil War wasn't fought under BERNIE'S LAW.

    The South lost the Civil War but under BERNIE'S LAW the South gets to dictate the rules and my people would still be in Vermont serving the Sanders in black suits and white gloves.


    President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863, as the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war. The proclamation declared "that all persons held as slaves" within the rebellious states "are, and henceforward shall be free.


    However under BERNIE'S LAW, since the South lost, the South makes up the rules and all Negros freed need to return to their mastas.

    Remeber under BERNIE'S LAW, the loser makes up the rules.

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    1. Anonymous8:57 AM

      +1000000000000000000

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  13. Anonymous7:46 AM

    The loser is Jane Sanders who was fired from Burlington College but as the loser, Jane got $200,000 to leave Burlington College. Losers makes up the rules.

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    1. Anonymous8:56 AM

      Jane got at least 200,000 for bankrupting that college, but since we never saw their tax returns we have no idea how much she really skimmed off the backs of the students attending Burlington.

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  14. Anonymous7:54 AM

    Bernie Sanders supporters protest Elizabeth Warren's endorsement of Hillary Clinton at Northampton

    http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/06/sanders_supporters_protest_war.html


    That means Hillary Clinton, the winner of the Democratic Party Primary Presidential Nominee has to pick another VP.

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    1. Anonymous8:54 AM

      No that doesn't.

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    2. Anonymous10:48 AM

      Why would it mean that? @7:54. No one cares about those Bernie supporters, organized via a deleted page on the Sanders' website that migrated to Reddit, who protest Warren; they are off the rails.

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  15. Anonymous8:52 AM

    Let's hope the meeting will bring Sanders to heel. He lost the primary, and should have little to say about what happens going forward. I like some of his ideas, though paying for them is out of reach. It is time for the Dems to start moving more to the left again, but not as a revolution.

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    1. Anonymous2:46 PM

      I sincerely hope that Hillary Clinton doesn't give Bernie a damned thing! The least of which would include not adding him to her Administration!

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  16. That tears it. BERNIE IS A SELLOUT!

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  17. Anonymous8:53 AM

    Hey Gryphen,
    Maybe it would be beneficial to write an article on your blog about how the party platform ( or at least link to an article explaining it) so readers can understand that platform changes aren't just made by one person who apparently wants a communist style takeover of that process to happen.

    Thx
    Little Rabbit

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    1. Anonymous11:31 AM

      Agree!

      Thanks, Wild Tortoise

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    2. Anonymous12:10 PM

      Well, well, well: Animal Agreement!

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    3. Anonymous5:20 PM

      @anon 12:10pm
      Unlike you I have an all American name, do you have an issue with that?

      Signed
      uhgahshe waabooz


      Any other issues Neeje

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    4. Anonymous6:10 PM

      That was a joke at 12:10. (I'm also a native woman. 5:20.)

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  18. I don't understand the contempt for Sanders among the operator of this site and the people who post here. You people are worse than Republicans.

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    1. Anonymous9:31 AM

      I don't understand Bernie's contempt of the Democratic Prty process, he chose to join and use them for his campaign and now wants to change the whole democratic process to make changes to the platform with seemingly communist dictatorship.

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    2. Anonymous9:32 AM

      I don't understand why any loser like Bernie would expect to be able to run things.

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    3. Anonymous11:18 AM

      Andrew at 8:54am

      Join us in voting for Donald Trump in November. These Hillary supporters that constantly denigrate Bernie have driven many of us to vote Trump, especially knowing that he will get things done regarding stopping religious extremists from living here in America and prevent more religious fanatical shootings.

      Now is the time for Trump. Bernie had a good run and I still support him, but unfortunately neither he nor Hillary can fix what is truly wrong with our country.

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    4. See, there you go. Hillary supporters are acting every bit as vile and obnoxious as Trump supporters. How do you suppose she wins if her supporters drive the Sanders vote away?

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    5. Here's your choice for president. Donald Trump thinks more air strikes on Isis would prevent incidents like the Orlando shooting. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, favors more air strikes on Isis to help prevent incidents like the Orlando shooting. Isn't our two-party system awesome?

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    6. Anonymous12:13 PM

      Andrew, nice try. The parties are not the same. Go vote for Nader again.

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    7. Anonymous12:14 PM

      11:18 supports a racist fascist.

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    8. Anonymous2:44 PM

      Bernie Sanders has become a joke - there is no 'there' 'there' and there never was! He's repeated and repeated his speeches - never changed them, etc. Plus, he never accomplished a damned thing the entire time he has served in Congress.

      The guy needs to go away and get rid of the huge ego he and his wife, Jane, have shown. They are almost as ridiculous as is Trump!

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  19. "One thing they don't understand is that this is not about a man or an individual, it's about a set of values. My Bernie friends and I are on the right side of history. We are the people on the front lines in the political revolution fighting against the power and money machine that has become our political system. We are not going anywhere. The political revolution in our country is history in the making and we will not surrender."

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    1. Anonymous12:36 PM

      So far, your so-called revolution has amounted to nothing: Less voters and even less CROWDS than Obama had in 2008. Less delegates than Hillary had in 2008.

      You have more Reddit pages, though. Is Reddit where the Revolution happens? Does Reddit yield results that are measurable in the real world? So far, no.

      So where is the great Bernie revolution? Where are the awesome results of the so-called "movement"? In over 18 months, nothing happened except rallies (where Bernie gave the same one-note speech) and hashtags. Bernie volunteers could not even be bothered to meet one quarter of the original Brrnie phone banking goals at Berniepb.com

      There are angry people, mostly white, still for Bernie, but there is no Bernie movement.

      A movement gains momentum; Bernie lost most of the final primaries, including tomorrow's. He attracted fewer and fewer people in CA as his campaign sputtered on. In a venue that held 92,000 in LA, he got a crowd of about 13,000.

      The Revolution Will Not Be Digitized.

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  20. Anita Winecooler4:25 PM

    Great Idea, Bernie! Perhaps you could produce a report on the findings of your vetting process of the Lady who won the most votes etc. etc. Ok, Gryph, is this some kind of early April fools joke?

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  21. Frankly Gryph you have become quite the as this primary election. You need to broaden your reading scope in an attempt to become less one sided. You really think that Clinton has your best interests at heart? If you do you are a fool.

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