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Amazing Guardian comment on the poisoned chalice of #Brexit. pic.twitter.com/WEQjs1SGkA
— Stig Abell (@StigAbell) June 25, 2016
So, nobody looked at the economic impact of this decision and communicated it to the electorate? Or, this was an emotional decision that may be redone.
They did but the electorate didn't believe them.They believed the Yahoos spewing the lies that they have now admitted were lies.I believe the referendum was advisory and that parliament is not obligated to follow through if it will damage the country. I'd say Scotland and Ireland voting to leave the UK would qualify.
They did communicate the negative impact. But the 'Leave' campaign convinced the majority of voters that the factual economic arguments to 'Stay' were hogwash and fear-mongering.
Sort of like the T.Rumpsters believing the surface rhetoric of T.Rump.
Yep, my son texted me a Twitter link to a UK economist on Friday morning saying it wouldn't happen because no one was implementing Article 50 immediately. And the longer it isn't implemented the less likely it ever would be. Cameron leaving it to his successor but not leaving until the Fall clinched all that. And also, as the post here says, there's nothing legally binding about the referendum.All this will only make the EU stronger. It's especially telling how much the younger people voted for staying. And it makes Trump look like that much more of an idiot--though that isn't even possible.
The younger generation want to see progress and move forward. A segment of the older generation opines for an era when white was right.
What with buyers' remorse, I bet Article 50 will never be used.
The damage may be done already. GB may sit on it for a while, but I wouldn't bet the EU is just sitting there twiddling it's collective fingers.
I heard that the EU was already denying benefits to the conservative areas of GB.
The EU is already showing the UK the door. They were never really committed. They wanted to keep the pound and have all the perks and none of the downside.Serves them right for swallowing the bile and filth Johnson was spewing.I'd like to think Trump voters would learn a lesson from this but I doubt it. Not enough synapses firing.
Barbara - I hope you're right.
Considering what happened to the pound and that the UK's credit rating has also been downgraded, I doubt any other country is going to leave the EU and risk a similar fate.Yeah, pretty short sighted of those older, conservative, (racist and uneducated) voters. Sorta like those Trump supporters. He loves the uneducated. The text of the tweet is way too small for me to read but anything that exposes Boris Trump Johnson for the bigoted ass he is has got to be entertaining.
Click on the text to get it on a single page. If still too small, hold the CTRL key and press "+" a few time to enlarge, CTRL "-" to shrink or CTRL "0" (zero) to return to normal.
Awwweee... if you use your zoom function (either with an outward pinch or Zoom in a browser's pull-down menu) you'll be able to read it, then.It was really good and carefully explains how David Cameron fucked Boris Johnson in the ass without any Vaseline and saved the Queen.
I'm on an iPhone and the zoom doesn't work on it but I found the original article at The Guardian. Very entertaining.
O/T i just watched Palin's speech at the Politicom event in Pasadena; same old tired rant. It was most definitely a Trump stump speech, but she WORE A BUSINESS SUIT! I haven't seen her look that professional since 2008. You don't think Trump plans to actually put her on his ticket, do you? Now I'm getting worried. She "performs" again at 3p with James Carville.
God I hope so!
I think it's more a function of her being one of the few people who will actually be associated with him publicly. He had the other few remaining supporters doing the Sunday morning show circuit, so he was pretty low on warm bodies to say nice things about him.
I think it's more a matter of her wishful thinking that he might.Although lately his options are narrowing. It could be he thinks she's about the only one left that would agree to share the ticket with him. And he might be right.
Politicon 2016: Sarah Palin Hails the Rise of ‘Golden Wrecking Ball’ Donald Trump (Video)Posted on Jun 26, 2016http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/politicon_2016_sarah_palin_20160626Sarah Palin knows the publicity game, and she knows how to work the spotlight to her political advantage. For this and many other reasons, it’s only logical that she would be the person to explain Donald Trump’s spectacular rise, fueled by just the same brand of media-based power she’s leveraged to her considerable advantage for more than a decade.
I met @SarahPalinUSA today she's a rockstar! pretty & smart. Lana Star https://twitter.com/decision16cards/status/747181820903448576https://twitter.com/Politicon/status/743614146659291136
@2:36 pm Are you Sarah Palin's press agent?
"Sarah Palin knows the publicity game, and she knows how to work the spotlight to her political advantage."-------------------------Really? Is that why her star has progressively grown dimmer and dimmer since 2008" I would be willing to stipulate that Palin knows how to cling by her fingernails to an increasingly long ago glory days better than just about anyone.
If Sarah knows the publicity game so well why can't she do something to help her daughter stop making such a fool of herself?
Boris and Cameron, schoolmates playing one upmanship? Google their names together, check out the images of these white, wealthy preppy boys. Boris is another Trump type, ego and all, who thinks life, and the poor citizens are to be played with.
I feel sorry for your pathetically low readership, so I'll comment.
Kind of early in the day to be hitting the hard stuff, iddn't it?
You would not have to comment if you didn't come here, troll.
Is that you Celia? You seem jealous that Gryphen has readers and commenters. I wish he would take you off his blog roll and replace your slot with someone who is worth bothering to read.
12:12 PM What's wrong, the local library too crowded today?
Since they stupidly voted without making sure they knew the ramifications, I say 'let them eat cake'. Too bad the rest of the world has to suffer with the Brits.If all of this is true, seems Cameron may be as good a chess player as Obama.
At the moment, Trump way, way down in polls. I guess they will hold off telling him until he returns, rested from his free vacation courtesy of the RNC. Trump's brand is now recognized as shit around the world.
Wouldn't it be nice if this campaign permanently bankrupted him and destroyed his "brand "?
The RNC does not fund Trump's campaign until after the convention
2:07 PM That is when Trump will claim that every penny spent by him was a loan to his campaign, and he wants it all repaid.
"Trump's brand is now recognized as shit around the world."Billy Beer anyone?
Maybe, just maybe, the retards in congress and the retards following the other retards, trump and palin. Will somehow see this Crystal ball (brexit) as a Wakeup call? One can only hope?The teabaggers are part of the retards as well ,trying to ruin this country.
$arah and the Trump will always be concerned strictlyu with what benefits them.
As my little ol' country mama used to say: Be careful what you ask for...
Oh dear, none of you have a clue. I tried to tell you on a reply the other day but no-one listened. Stig Abell works for a paer who encouraged us to leave, so Ignore him for a start. For me is was because of the risk of our losing our Sovereignty. No more and certainly no less. Men & women have died defending our Democratic rights, why should we give them away to the EU as it wants us to?Below is my reason for signing leave. It should tell you all you need to know, then maybe you cann look it up via oogle or something. I put this on Facebook earlier.____________________________________This post is not meant to offend anyone who voted to Remain in the EU. Like I said to my family, look at all sides, come to a decision and then please go out and vote. As long as you are happy with what you decided, then that will be the right vote for you. I have always encouraged them to think about politics and then whatever they wish to vote or wish to join is fine with me. My only proviso has been “make sure you read, learn and listen” before you make a decision. They are grown up now and do not need to feel as if they have to vote one way because it is what I do. I have seen families torn apart because of politics. It is sad, not necessary, and deprives adults as well as children of relationships that should supersede politics. I have seen several “let’s work together now, and get on with it” type posts, from both side of the EU position. I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment.However there are some “Remainers” out there who, I can only say, are not only sore losers, but are bad losers too. After a couple of days of being told I’m a pathetic “little Englander”, Xenophobic, a F***ing idiot, a Brexsh*teer, an uneducated moron, etc. I will for the last time explain why I voted to leave the EU as it is now.After making a list of for and against on the EU Referendum, there seemed to me to be more reasons for staying in, than leaving. However, there was the ONE big reason for me to say leave. It was because the EU has every intention of becoming The United States of Europe. This would have meant we were no longer a Sovereign State (as in we get to vote for our Gov’t every few years), but that we would be Governed from Brussels by mostly unelected people, who we would not be able to vote in or out. This referendum was our one and only chance to say no to that particular step. The immigration issue was never part of my decision making. The Sovereignty of our country was.I had only to think of how many lost their lives in Two World Wars from the UK and from the British Empire (as it was back then) so that we may live in a democracy, free to vote for whoever we want to govern us. Now I shall get back to my everyday world namely: Taking photo’s when I get the chance, doing my best to be a good Mum/Nan & Wife. Trying to not be a house slut when it comes to cleaning, tidying and ironing (hard when you love reading). Spend more quality time with my husband. Probably missed a few but “what the he**”…
Don't mean to offend you either, but this shit is happening all over Englandhttp://news.sky.com/story/1717862/police-probe-post-brexit-attacks-on-polesDo NOT tell me it isn't about racism, too many numbskulls are on video proving it.
Didn't The Guardian (UK) promote "Remain", not "Leave"? I am confused by your second sentence, @2:40.
Well, here's part of your problem - what evidence do you have for this governed from Brussels? Likely the same kind of evidence for "he's gonna take our guns!" It's called fear mongering, and you (and others) fell for it." Then, there were the outright racists. (see above.)
Your post is nonsense. Brussels isn't ruling your life, and you will always elect your leaders. I pity you if you truly believe that the future of global peace should take a back seat to you being a "dutiful wife." You deserve to suffer if you voted Brexit for such stupid reasons.
Funding from the EU helped you stay afloat in many areas, including medical and scientific research.
@2:40 I understand exactly where you stand. And I also have a reverence for those who died in WW2 to protect democracy. My mother's only brother was one--he was on the crew of a B-24 and was killed flying a bombing mission from England to Germany. The great journalist John Pilger sums up very well the current situation regarding unelected financial elites and their flunkies who now make the rules that make or break countries (as has happened to Greece most recently):“The pith helmets may have long gone, but the blood has never dried. A nineteenth century contempt for countries and peoples, depending on their degree of colonial usefulness, remains a centrepiece of modern “globalisation”, with its perverse socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor: its freedom for capital and denial of freedom to labour; its perfidious politicians and politicised civil servants.All this has now come home to Europe, enriching the likes of Tony Blair and impoverishing and disempowering millions. On 23 June, the British said no more.The most effective propagandists of the “European ideal” have not been the far right, but an insufferably patrician class for whom metropolitan London is the United Kingdom. Its leading members see themselves as liberal, enlightened, cultivated tribunes of the 21st century zeitgeist, even “cool”. What they really are is a bourgeoisie with insatiable consumerist tastes and ancient instincts of their own superiority. In their house paper, the Guardian, they have gloated, day after day, at those who would even consider the EU profoundly undemocratic, a source of social injustice and a virulent extremism known as “neoliberalism”. “http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/24/a-blow-for-peace-and-democracy-why-the-british-said-no-to-europe/
Anon at 8:03pm. Exactly, I must try and find that Pilger write up. As for those nay sayers I won't try and change your attitude or minds. It would be a total waste of my time. If any of you are Britih then go back under your little stone and do a bit of growing up, you lost, deal with it. If some of you (or all) of you are American then please do not pretend to know British Politics and how the EU has crept in to over-rule much of our lives. It is true. What is more I tried to be as fair as possible over why I voted the way I did. I did not mud sling the "remainers" or say they were wrong. As for presuming I'm a "Dutiful wife" I did not say that, I said the BEST I can be as a Nan/Mum & Wife, where did I say dutiful? Time to shut the he** up methinks, Regards Josephine.
That so many of Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet quit today is also a Brexit-related mess. Cameron set up a Prisoner's Dilemma for Johnson, all right. The comment from The Guardian makes that so clear.
Corbyn brought this on himself, it has been coming for longer than voting for in/out the EU. Do not rely on the Guardian for all your facts it is a pro labour paper, so will say anything other than the whole truth sbout one of their own....
Wow! Let this be a lesson to us all! 1.1 million regret voting "Leave"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3660294/May-Tory-stop-Boris-PM-poll-shows-emerges-1-1million-people-regret-voting-Leave.html
Sturgeon says Scotland may have power to block the UK leaving EU/ Brexit! http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-26/sturgeon-to-negotiate-best-way-forward
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