But this time, with these most recent comments, that might not be the case.
Courtesy of Time:
Donald Trump’s comments Tuesday about “Second Amendment people” could be considered a “veiled threat” against Hillary Clinton, a former top Secret Service official told TIME.
The official said that if they were still working at the U.S. Secret Service, they would contact someone on Trump’s campaign staff to have a conversation about whether the understands the consequences of that rhetoric.
The former Secret Service official said they would ask a U.S. attorney to see if Trump broke any laws with the comment.
“Look, this guy is coming pretty close to the edge here,” the official said.
That former agent was being somewhat diplomatic, others are being less so.
This was how Gabby Giffords responded to the statements:
“Donald Trump might astound Americans on a routine basis, but we must draw a bright red line between political speech and suggestions of violence. Responsible, stable individuals won’t take Trump’s rhetoric to its literal end, but his words may provide a magnet for those seeking infamy. They may provide inspiration or permission for those bent on bloodshed." “What political leaders say matters to their followers. When candidates descend into coarseness and insult, our politics follow suit. When they affirm violence, we should fear that violence will follow." “It must be the responsibility of all Americans – from Donald Trump himself, to his supporters, to those who remain silent or oppose him – to unambiguously condemn these remarks and the violence they insinuate. The integrity of our democracy and the decency of our nation is at stake.”
Of course Giffords is the perfect person to call Trump out over this as the internet lit up yesterday with a certain well known image:
Elizabeth Warren could barely contain her rage:
.@realDonaldTrump makes death threats because he's a pathetic coward who can’t handle the fact that he’s losing to a girl.— Elizabeth Warren (@elizabethforma) August 9, 2016
To the question of whether or not this comment will destroy what is left of his already badly damaged candidacy, there are certainly signs that it might.Your reckless comments sound like a two-bit dictator, @realDonaldTrump. Not a man who wants to lead the greatest democracy on the planet.— Elizabeth Warren (@elizabethforma) August 9, 2016
Personally I have no idea HOW Donald Trump managed to win this Republican nomination, nor do I understand how he continues to garner any support whatsoever.Donald Trump has been speaking in Fayetteville, NC, for 26 minutes -- and a steady stream of people are leaving. pic.twitter.com/6Ywk0UFdrS— Jenna Johnson (@wpjenna) August 9, 2016
However if after making such an inflammatory comment he continues to attract support from the base of the Republican party, then I think that party needs to consider completely reevaluating who they are, what they stand for, who it is that supports them, and why.
Update: The Secret Service has now confirmed that they have spoken to Doanld Trump about his statements.
Has that every happened before, that the Secret Service had to warn somebody under their protection not to incite violence against another person under their protection?
I think this is a first.
Secret Service has contacted Trump campaign.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/trump-second-amendment/index.html
BREAKING: Trump Denies Secret Service Meeting Took Place
Deletehttp://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-trump-denies-secret-service-meeting-took-place/
Who do you believe? The liar or the liar?
Ain't no reason for this hard ass game your playin.
DeleteI am surprised they didn't offer the Don some prostitutes? Where was Sarah at? haha
DeleteMemories.
ReplyDelete"On Morning Joe someone likened Trump's rabid followers to Palin's shouting "kill him" about Obama."
It's about time "Morning Joe" went after The Donald! I detested the way he talked to his female cohost this morning! He was demeaning and rude to her! And, I don't know why she put with it!?
DeleteShe should have slapped him across his arrogant face OR walked off the stage flipping him the giant finger!
Are you taking Mika? He does that to her all the time. She must not have much self worth.
DeleteHowever, he did write this yesterday:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/08/09/the-gop-must-dump-trump/?utm_term=.4d8db58dadb5
It's the same reason Carlson put up with Ailes for 20 years-the women are afraid to speak up or they'll lose those big profile jobs. Either that, or the self-esteem is so low they think they deserve to be mocked.
DeleteMeanwhile, I think the SS talked to McCain about Palin's hate-mongering rallies in 2008, but maybe that was wishful thinking. SHE is a big part of the reason this country is so hateful now...she divided America with her lies and bluster and fake patriotism. And now Trump is just taking the banner and running with it. "I'll do it until the law tells me I can't" Sound familiar?
I had to stop watching her and the abuse long ago. It is so sad that American TV has come to watching that type of 'successful program'. too late for Mika. She must need the job.
DeleteI doubt they show the real abuse. It will be like Fox and take years to be revealed.
Why Palin endorsed him, 1:08 PM!
DeleteThere has been a long time rumor that Mika and Joe Blow are dating. Much of what they do seems to be an 'act'.
DeleteMika doesn't have many options. I am sure it is clear to her how she is to stay in line or else.
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My cousin had an abusive boyfriend. He let her know to keep quiet. He also let her know what he did to other girlfriends. It is a bully way to keep someone trapped in the cycle of abuse.
Trump's rallies are filled with "Trump the Bitch" and "Kill Hillary".
DeleteHe knew exactly what he was saying and how his followers would interpret it.
Bet they increase security on Hillary.
"Trump, the Bitch". There, fixed it.
DeleteShake a tree and the loosest fruit falls first. You can't say for certain which exact fruit will fall on which shake, but you most certainly can say that if you shake the tree, the loosest fruit will fall. Trump is a yuge tree shaker.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/08/10/1558676/-Trumpism,-Milgram,Stochastic-Terrorism
"Stochastic terrorism is the use of mass communications to stir up random lone wolves to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable."
It is easy to understand why the R's chose Trump. For years, they have been told that anyone with experience is bad and the 'outsider' with no experience is good. Anyone with experience was part of the Establishment and that was bad. Now they are surprised when an inexperienced know nothing got the nomination.
ReplyDeleteOf course, most Republicans don't bother to think too much. They just accept whatever drivel the cable and talk news show feed them. No need to bother with those nasty facts; they just make it up as they go along.
Personally, I like experience. If I have an operation, I want the surgeon to have experience. Same with politicians. Those with experience can get things done.
OMFG, Can no one disqualify this backasswards POS?! We have people dying like black people for possible gun and possible this or that and this POS gets to incinuate killing someone. America the shitty!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThe GOP can. But they won't.
DeleteAmerica is a POS!!!!
ReplyDeleteYes we are!
DeleteKeep an eye on this Sarah dude campaigning for Fld seat. Do Fld Republicans need these nafarious losers? Someone is investing in this Bongino for him to have a job in one of the states. Is he totally trained and brainwashed to be an opertive with a job? A job with more more status than podcast host.
ReplyDeletehttp://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2016/08/the-sarah-palin-curse-lives-on-as-paul.html?showComment=1470851492210#c3005728726320154969
Help Fld purge these shady creeps and tell Sarah Palin she is no Kingmaker, more the opposite. Dakota Meyer only hears what he wants to hear and he is listening to the loser.
Bongino candidate for Florida's 19th Congressional District. He was the Republican Party nominee for Maryland's 6th Congressional District in the 2014 elections.
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2016/08/hillary-clinton-preemptively-accepts.html?showComment=1470830807751#c2052619737993756562
Life Inside the Bubble: Why a Top-Ranked Secret Service Agent Walked Away from It All
by Bongino (his version, about as honest as his defense of Trump)
Why do the Republican power players pick a person like this? They will also pick a person like Dakota Meyer now that the great myth maker Palin is recreating his life story.
What happened to the Secret Service agent assigned to the Palins? This one was fingered as using prostitutes. His father was Secret Service from the Kennedy era. He was career and had to quit after the Colombian prostitute scandal that had to be hushed up. The guy went 100% black and the SS covers up for him and gives him a pass.
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No one can learn any of the facts about these people. At the time prostitute scandal time as I recall he and his family were part of some extremists group think. There is also talk about subversives that work and function in agencies like the Secret Service that could easily take part in chaos and causing troubles to effect a change in the US political process. They use threats and violence to reach their goals.
How much does Donald Trump contribute to Bongino's campaigns?
DeleteMark Foley said Trump was one of his biggest contributors. Florida is mighty important to Trump.
Bongino has been making media appearances to support Trump for his comment about Hillary appointing judges and the 2nd Amendment.
I'm sitting here imaging what that meeting looked like. DT, who envisions himself the ultimate Alpha Dog, being visited by I'm guess a few men with their own swagger, and the authority of the US government behind them, schooling him on how to behave. And he has to at least appear to listen. He can't bluster his way out of this one. If he tries, the meeting just lasts longer.
ReplyDeleteIt was probably like when they visit Ted Nugent.
DeleteThey are all old friends and besties. Trump loves the attention. He probably feels he schooled them. This will make Trump feel important and he will praise the whole situation.
He will never let them forget who they work for.
He will never, ever forget that meeting: how will he revenge THIS slight to his Alpha Male delusion?
DeleteThey made him look small and chastised. Wouldn't take any walks down dark streets, guys. There needs to be follow up on them.
I'm sure he spent the time eye rolling and making faces.
DeleteAnd this is the SECOND time such a meeting has taken place. They had the same conversation three weeks ago for the same reason. That might have been with campaign staffers. This meeting should have been with the candidate himself.
Now Trumps says there was no meeting. He sees agents all the time. Maybe he doesn't understand what is going on. He may have just seen one of his protective agents? Who knows can't trust the Secret Service or Trump.
Deletenaw he was probably had a shit eating grin while reminiscing about playing 'to kill a mockingbird' aka a human being with ping pang pong long ago and far away!
DeleteDonald has a very short attention span and a very low tolerance for boredom. I'm sure after a sentence or two the Secret Service agents started to sound like the adults in a Peanuts cartoon. Wah wah. Wah wah wah.
DeleteThere are many honorable and professional Secret Service pros. There are also some radical RW in the Secret Service. The secret Service is infamous for their many secrets. Any one of them can say or write a pack of lies and no one would know the truth.
ReplyDeleteIf an agent was found to be radical and a possible danger to the President, current or future, he could be asked to leave the Secret Service. The agent would be able to write what they want and make themselves appear to be one of the brave and dedicated to take a bullet for a president.
New York Times bestseller, Life Inside the Bubble is an intimate look at life inside the presidential bubble, by Dan Bongino.
Told by the aspiring political campaigner who defends Donald Trump's 2nd Amendment hype.
"He swore to take a bullet for the President and left it all behind to take a bullet for the American people;
Why would a successful, twelve-year Secret Service agent resign his position in the prime of his career to run for political office against all the odds?"
https://www.amazon.com/Life-Inside-Bubble-Top-Ranked-Service/dp/1938067363
Even ex CIA have to get their books vetted and permission granted for publication.
DeleteThe Secret Service doesn't have a similar requirement?
1:00 PM
DeleteIf they do it like CIA, it doesn't mean it was honestly or well vetted. Look at all the problems the lawyer in Dallas is having trying to get truth from Secret Service.
The NRA/GOP will take this serious. Trump is their man/puppet.
Delete"By the way, and if she gets to pick –if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know."
Trump will be treated with with kid gloves by the agents from the Secret Service that guard him.
Malia Litman's explosive Secret Service expose hits the MSM.
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2016/08/malia-litmans-explosive-secret-service.html
Investigate David Chaney and the prostitution ring run by Todd Palin
https://www.change.org/p/homeland-security-investigate-david-chaney-and-the-prostitution-ring-run-by-todd-palin
Require a Sworn Statement from Secret Service Agent David Chaney Re Use of Prostitute provided by Todd Palin
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/require-a-sworn-statement
Dallas Morning News Article on the Secret Service FOIA Documents
https://malialitman.com/2016/08/07/incredible-attention-for-the-dallas-morning-news-article-on-the-secret-service-foia-documents/
If you watch the video and I do not have a link, you can clearly see how Trump supporters Interpreted his remarks. Just watch the reaction of the couple to the right and behind DT after he says "that will be a horrible day". The man has white hair and a beard and his wife is on the left in the video. Very telling!
ReplyDeleteI also noticed that man in the red shirt. He was stroking his beard. When Trump uttered his Second Amendment words the man's mouth gaped open and then he had a weird and chilling smile on his face. That man new exactly what Trump was encouraging.
DeleteYeah, and the old lady sitting next to Red Shirt was giggling thru it all.
DeleteBetcha she thinks Richard Pryor(the funniest man who ever lived, IMO) was crude and deserved a torturous death but what Fatass said was funnnnny. Bitch!
I don't have specifics, but I seem to recall Palin inciting violence against Obama. I remember feeling that she more than crossed the line with the things she laughed at and encouraged.
ReplyDeleteYes. How many times? She had one crowd saying to 'Kill Obama'. That was when the friend and secret service man with the Palins was on duty.
DeleteHe was protected by secret service and you can't find out the truth about him. He just left and they protect him. His father was a big deal in the secret service and it was no doubt easy for him to be a rogue and misbehave with secret service protecting him for years.
Gabbie Gifford is the best known. She barely survived when Palin riled a nut case to do her bidding.
1:44 your last sentence has been Sarah's MO to 'get things done' for ever!
DeleteThe campaign is trying to walk this back with it being "obvious he was uniting the power of those that support the second amendment to go out and vote."
ReplyDeleteTo which I call BULLSHIT! Anyone listening to or reading the full statements knows exactly what Trump was implying between the lines. He wants some loose cannon lone wolf asshat ammosexual nutjob to assassinate Hillary Clinton.
Probably because that is the only way he could win in November.
The Secret Service has already had two "talks" with the Trump campaign regarding this sort of incendiary rhetoric. As far as I'm concerned, the next time Trump makes a veiled threat, he needs to be arrested and the GOP needs to find themselves another boy.
Next Time?! WTF? NOW!!!!
DeleteThe rug needed to be pulled out from under him long ago. As 1:49 PM said, there should be no "next time."
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ReplyDeleteTrump is denying a meeting with SS took place.
Pat Padrnos
We can all thank Sarah Palin for helping create an atmosphere of hate and retaliation. Claiming that Barack Obama "pals around with terrorists" even though she was warned against using such rhetoric, right up to the infamous gun sights on certain congressional districts, including Gabby Giffords', allowed others to follow suit.
ReplyDeleteNow,Trump has taken the vitriol to a whole new level and he has succeeded in getting angry white men with guns to think that the only way to save their Second Amendment rights is to use them to wipe out a threat - that being Hillary Clinton.
F- you Sarah for bringing your black soul into public consciousness.
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DeleteOld Jonny Boy must be so proud to have brought this scum onto the national stage. He deserves to lose his Senate seat for giving Sarah a national persona. The Tea Party and Trump are the logical outcome to his disasterous decision.
DeleteI will never give Sarah Palin an ounce of empathy! She is an evil person!
DeleteI hope she suffers for every bit of hate she has spawned!!! Damn her !!For eternity!!
folks! you need to relax! think about this..when you are dealing with anything - it's got dirt somewhere! why not clean it out now then let it grow mold and infect everyone? just a thought! it seems to me they are bringing out the cockroaches of politics and the general public so grab a can of Raid (your phones) and aim good!
Deletethen call animal control (cops)...shrug
We are the highest taxed nation? Where dies he get this info? We have extreme taxes to pay for an outsized military, but I have friends in Europe who pay a lot more than us. A lot. But, they get free health care without the insurance industry taking its cut; they have reasonably sized militaries; and a citizenry that isn’t handing out enormous tax cuts to religious entities. Their citizens honor the social contract to look out for their less able and don’t have any expectation churches will “take care” of people in a rough patch.
ReplyDeleteOur friends in Scandinavia whine a bit about their high taxes but they are extremely proud of the services that their taxes cover. We had an interesting conversation with a barista in Copenhagen a couple of years ago. The fellow had spent some time in the US and simply could not understand why people here complain about high taxes. Of course, he also said that, while 50% or so of his income went to taxes, he got so much more in return for each tax "krone" than the Americans he had met.
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All of this is put forth in Michael Moore's "Where should we invade next?" film.
DeleteI think it should be downloaded for free off his website. He could sure do a lot to burst the GOP bubble with wide distribution of that film.
Oh brother, now it's all over the news showing some guy with suction cups scaling up Trump tower in Manhatten. He's on the 17th floor right now. Traffic stopped, costing millions, the guy is from Virginia named Steve. No one knows yet why he's doing it other than he wants attention.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump or his kids paid him to do it as a stunt.
The show must go on.
Deletedistractions distractions distractions
Deleteknowing donny brook he had the upper level oiled so the poor bastard falls to his death
Donald Trump believes he can shoot someone in public and he will get more votes.
ReplyDeleteHe must think if he can get Hillary taken care of he can get more votes.
He's probably hoping they'll take care of Hillary before he has to debate her.
DeleteHe's probably denying the fact that the only way he'll win is if she's dead. I'm sure his people have access to the same polling data and electoral maps the rest of us have. Plus Hillary has a game plan. Trump doesn't.
Palin and Trump are two peas in the same diseased pod: extreme narcissism. So when will Trump give his "blood libel" speech?
ReplyDeleteHe can plagiarize Sarah's.
DeleteBwahahaha Barbara!
DeleteWhy is Hillary leading with only a 10 point margin? With all the stupid thing Trump says and does, you'd think Hillary be leading by 30 points. I guess America has too many dumb asses.
ReplyDeleteThe Democratic nominee should be 30 points ahead unless they have email and trust issues dragging them back...
DeleteBernie would be 30 points ahead, for instance.
Let's face it. The media loves to criticize Hillary Clinton for whatever reason, usually ridiculous ones. And, Anon at 3:39 pm, the media, which is much more conservative than liberal, would have a field day with Bernie Sanders' early years. I do not think that he would be 30 points ahead of anyone.
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"By the way, and if she gets to pick –if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know."
ReplyDeleteWho are the agents that watch Donald Trump? His family?
They are no doubt the same type agents like had duty with the Palins.
Agents that can get by with chit like Palin agents.
Remember when Bristol was alone and pregnant in the woods. He family had abandoned her to go off with the McCain campaign.
DeleteBristol was terrified being alone since the Secret Service had also abandoned her and thier little station at the Palin Compound.
The Trumps may have the same problems with the Secret Service. They are slacking on their job and not watching what goes on with Trump and family.
The Secret Service was, at Palin's request, in the house next door. A few feet away. So close that when Joe McGinniss occupied it, Sarah claimed that he was peeping into Diaper's window. A baby monitor would have been sufficient to call for the Secret Service to enter the Palin household, and they could have been given a key so they wouldn't have to break down a door.
DeleteBut that would have taken common sense. Remember- Barstool didn't have a phone! Just a land line! (That always makes me think of that hilarious scene in the movie "In and Out" where the supermodel is trying to call her agent and the phone has- gasp!- A DIAL!! and she screams!)
Frankly, I'm more worried about the Secret Service agents than I am about Trump. Nobody would miss Trump, but the Secret Service are government employees and shouldn't have to put up with his insanity.
And nobody could miss that Trump was calling for Clinton to be shot. I've been worried enough about her as it is- as any sensible person should be, given the gun crazies in our country.
Fuck it, she's gonna be elected and everyone's going to say it's because she was running against the most ignorant, badly behaved candidate in U.S. history, and even a woman was better. People won't believe she's winning on merit.
Holy shit, Ivy, I never thought about it that way--FatDrumpf IS putting SS members lives in jeopardy with his dangerous rhetoric.
DeleteUnless his SS folks agree with his call to assasinate HRC, the ones assigned to protect Drumpf's worthless fat ass need to tell him to shutthefuckup, he's putting them in danger!
I remember when President Obama was elected, the hubby and I had been quite concerned that Obama would get killed by some white supremacist ammosexual. I don't mind my tax dollars going to protect Obama and his family. Let Drumpf pay for his own protection.
I am reading a book about teenagers called Get out of my life by Anthony E. Wolf, Ph.D.. In that book describes all the antics, ploys, and deviousness of teenagers, and funny enough alot of the tactics teenagers use to get their way, and get way with it, Donald uses too. And the Republican party tolerates him like the Affluence mother of that spoiled no good for nothing kid in the news a few months back.
ReplyDeleteThat reminds me of a movie I watched last night that reminded me of Donald Trump. "Hitler's Children" a 1943 American black-and-white propaganda film made by RKO Radio Pictures.
DeleteArrested development. Not just a great TV series, it's what Donnie suffers from (along with chronic obesity).
DeleteAnd he has the nerve to call Chris Christie fat! Love to see them both step on a scale. I figure Christie outweighs Drumpf by only 20 pounds.
stochastic terrorism" suggested that the problem with America is that “nobody wants to hurt each other anymore.”
ReplyDeletehttps://thinkprogress.org/the-rhetorical-tool-that-allows-trump-to-incite-violence-without-inciting-violence-7fbf7b96d448#.1t1mneyp8
that is global as well
Deletehas been that way for awhile actually
but ol georgy boy bush couldn't have that
so we got WAR because he is a dumb damn fuck
I am not only worried about our next president, Hillary Clinton, I am also worried about her Secret Service detail getting caught in an ambush incited by Trump's rhetoric. The Republicans needs to take control of their party.
ReplyDeleteWhoever is in control of the GOP crap wants USA to be theirs.
DeleteRiskyLiberal @RiskyLiberal 5h5 hours ago
ReplyDeleteTrump recently bought another 1.5 million fake twitter followers. He had 2.5 million fakes (screenshot of audit at link):
https://twitter.com/RiskyLiberal/status/763444332430921728
Hello, anyone who is a prominent celebrity or politician purchases FB or Twit followers. Social media on a broad scale is a morass of purchased likes.
DeleteThat's why I don't do it.
DeleteI have three "friends" on my private Livejournal account. We use it more like a substitute e-mail than anything else.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-rfk-comment/
ReplyDeleteWell, Hillary did something similar back in 2008. She got beat the fuck up by even liberal news organizations.
She also defended a child-rapist back in 1975 Arkansas. Instead of the 30 years in prison he deserved, she plea-bargained it down to less than a year in county jail.
DeleteThe young girl was so badly damaged from the rape that she was unable to bear children. GOOGLE IT. If you dare.
4:07 i DID google it and you are cherry-picking your 'facts'... Hillary did not want to do it but once it was in her lap, she would have been breeching her fiduciary duty to not do the best for her client.
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ReplyDeleteHillary was spoken to by SS in 2008 as well since Barack Obama already had twice the SS protection during his campaign due to death threats.
Dinesh D'Souza is out there pushing his anti Clinto propaganda with his new movie, Hillary's America, like he did when he made Obama 2016. The conservatives I know keep asking me if I have seen it and I reply that I am not interested in propoganda films. D'Souza is a lying pos. He was convicted and went to prison for election fraud. And these people swallow this idiotic "documentary" like it is the gospel truth. Stupidity and ignorance are the biggest enemies of this country.
ReplyDeletehttp://wonkette.com/599314/loser-felon-dinesh-dsouza-will-destroy-hillary-just-like-he-destroyed-obama
That Dinesh is a sexy sexxxy man!
DeleteI can't find anything here about the new batch of emails she "forgot" to turn over. The ones that tell the story of trading donations to the Clinton Foundation for favors and weapons. Where can I find that?
ReplyDeleteIt's kind of a non-story. maybe that is why Uncle G wont waste his time on it.
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