Friday, August 05, 2016

So is Bernie Sanders following in the footsteps of Ron Paul or Sarah Palin?

Courtesy of USA Today: 

Sen. Bernie Sanders began fundraising Wednesday for his new political organization, tapping supporters in an email for contributions to “continue our critical work to take back our country from the billionaire class.” 

“Our Revolution,” the former Democratic presidential candidate writes, aims to bring “millions” of working and young people into the political system; recruit and support the “next generation of progressive leaders” running for office, from school board to U.S. Senate; and educate the public about “the most pressing issues confronting our nation” that he says the “corporate media” fails to emphasize. 

“Our goal will be the same as in our campaign: we must work to transform American society by making our political and economic systems work for all of us, not just the 1 percent,” wrote Sanders.

Okay now I know that Bernie Bros are already hyperventilating over the fact that I would dare to compare their hero to Ron Paul or (Gasp!) Sarah Palin.

However the comparisons are viable.

Now according to this USA Today article the "Our Revolution" organization is supposed to launch later this month, but right now they are soliciting and receiving donations that go through Act Blue, a Democratic PAC that was established in 2004.

If Bernie is going the Ron Paul route we can expect to see him have some impact on the Democratic party in certain places around the country (Remember the Paulites, led by Joe Miller, took over the Alaska Republican party for a short while in 2012.), but no real noticeable impact on national politics.

However if he is going the Sarah Palin route then he will simply be giving lip service to the idea of political change while pocketing the money for himself to pay for things like air travel, "consultants," and of course keeping his family members flush with cash.

And before anybody scoffs at that last paragraph remember there is precedent since Sanders illegally used campaign money to visit with the Pope during his campaign.

All I am saying is that if you have ever mocked those who contribute to SarahPAC, and then turn around and give money to this Sanders "revolution," you might want to have a serious conversation with yourself in the mirror.


  1. Anonymous6:18 AM

    OT:Big Dump>

    1. Anonymous6:53 AM

      Can't help wondering if all they have to do to get rid of him is sit him down and tell him that -- if he wins, God forbid -- he will have to divest himself of all his business holdings!!!!!! Really, that is what he will have to do and I don't think he could do that.

    2. Balzafiar8:09 AM

      6L53AM -- No he won't. He has to put them into a blind trust, nothing else. His wonderful narcissistic animal-killing sons can run them for him, unless of course he puts them into cabinet positions such as Secretary of Shooting Guns or something else equally useless.

    3. Anonymous10:05 AM

      @ 8:09 AM

      No he doesn't HAVE to put them in a blind trust, there is no law that requires it.

      Someone wrote an article on it, can't find the link right now.

      They discussed the conflict of interest. He can keep his companies and use the Office of the President to direct business to his companies.

    4. Anonymous10:23 AM

      Donald Trump's candidacy raises novel ethics questions

      ..... Federal law doesn’t explicitly prohibit President Trump from continuing to run the sprawling real-estate and brand-marketing empire that is the Trump Organization, federal ethics experts say. And the conflict-of-interest rules that bar Cabinet secretaries and other high-ranking executive branch officials from overseeing matters that boost their personal bottom lines don’t apply to the president.....

  2. Anonymous6:35 AM

    A fool and his money are soon parted.

    1. Anonymous9:52 AM

      That is the way of political donations yet people get fooled again and again. So sad.

  3. Anonymous6:35 AM

    Wait, so the saintly old guy who railed against PACs and made it a key point in his campaign to say he didn't have a PAC is starting a... PAC?
    Color me surprised. I thought Bernie was a sparkly unicorn of perfect, unimpeachable ideological purity.
    Gosh, I wonder if his diehard supporters will finally set aside their sexist double standards against Hillary and admit she's the real deal and Bernie isn't.
    Who am I kidding. Berners' misogyny runs deeeeeeep.

    1. Anonymous7:21 AM

      YOU.. GOT THAT RIGHT! His whole life.
      "A man goes home and masturbates his typical fantasy. A woman on her knees, a woman tied up, a woman abused.
      A woman enjoys intercourse with her man — as she fantasizes being raped by 3 men simultaneously.
      The man and woman get dressed up on Sunday — and go to Church, or maybe to their 'revolutionary' political meeting.
      Have you ever looked at the Stag, Man, Hero, Tough magazines on the shelf of your local bookstore? Do you know why the newspaper with the articles like 'Girl 12 raped by 14 men' sell so well? To what in us are they appealing? INTERNET!
      "sharper point — that traditional gender roles help create troubling dynamics in men's and women's sex lives."
      "Many women seem to be walking a tightrope," he writes, as their "qualities of love, openness, and gentleness were too deeply enmeshed with qualities of dependency, subservience, and masochism."
      $Sex, BULLYing and Money....

  4. Anonymous6:38 AM

    OT: Outstanding!

  5. Anonymous6:47 AM

    What did his bernship do with the millions of dollars left over in his campaign coffers? Was it transferred to something supporting Dems OR is it going to fund his lifestyle?
    I personally don't trust his bernship after he revealed he was going back to the Senate as an I and not a D.

    1. Anonymous7:33 AM

      Ask Baby Jane where is the money

    2. Balzafiar8:10 AM

      It will end up as postsge.

    3. Anonymous8:43 AM

      Oh, goody! Ten more days until Bernie has to show us all his tax returns after he and the wife got an extension.

    4. Anonymous10:09 AM

      AND almost ALL those funds came from small donors. IS he going to return them?
      Nope. I agree.. postage.

  6. Anonymous6:51 AM

    So, if I were a Vermont voter I would have to wonder about Bernie -- is he going to work for me in the Senate or put his time and energy toward his Revolution? This could backfire on him next time he is up for election.

    1. Anonymous8:28 AM

      Since he barely did anything before he ran for president I doubt they'd notice much difference....

  7. Anonymous7:08 AM


  8. aj Billings7:22 AM

    Speaking of The Wasilla Idiot, the C4pee crowd were whining that poor $arah isn't getting any attention from the Orange Racist Cheeto lately.

    "she was good enough for the primary", but now he's dissing her.

    Damn, it has to suck that your Pac is almost broke, and your hero racist bastard is going to lose or quit, not sure which he'll do first.

    He can join the Palin quitter Club!


    1. Balzafiar8:12 AM

      The Primary was just a one-night stand; Donald got his blowjob then moved on to better things.

  9. Anonymous7:26 AM

    Gee, thanks for another "fuck you" to us Bernie fans. Are you done yet?

    1. I dunno, have you smartened up yet?

    2. Anonymous7:51 AM

      7/11/16 Gryph Wrote:

      "Personally I am just glad that this whole thing is about over so that I no longer have any reason to write another word about Bernie Sanders."

      And the hypocrisy continues...

    3. Anonymous8:11 AM

      Remember this?

    4. Anonymous8:58 AM

      Ok seriously, what is wrong with you Bernie fans that you have to attack the messenger and you are COMPLETELY blind to what Bernie is doing?

      You always, always have to make excuses for him!

      Gryphen is not an asshole for reporting the news!!!

      Grow the fuck up!!!

    5. Anonymous9:24 AM

      Hell no, he's not done. Still loads of money to come for his finding of truth. Not to mention that the goodlookin! couple of Wasillia need a few more acres and half a dozen new guns.

    6. Anonymous9:58 AM

      Meh, I was for Bernie in the beginning and I guess I did "smarten up" as you say because I'm sitting this one out.

      Neither candidate works for me, but I'll make sure to vote locally and for state races and our US Congressional races (however looks like Lisa M and Don Young are absolute shoe-ins, once again), but thanks but no thanks there is no presidential candidate that is palatable to me and my extended family.

      Hopefully next time around there will be someone we can connect with, but hey, that's life, there isn't always a candidate that resonates with everyone.

    7. Anonymous10:02 AM


      Yes, I (and I'm pretty sure the Palin Klan) too am looking forward to the next installment of:

      "oops, guess what, I didn't exactly have my facts right back when I wrote this story in 2009, my bad, sorry"

      Word is lots of giggles from the family regarding the retraction of the divorce lie. Bad part is that Levi's been put on the hot seat, again. Anytime this kind of thing is mentioned they point their bony fingers and blame him and twist the screws a little tighter.

    8. Anonymous10:10 AM

      What is the matter, can't handle the TRUTH?

    9. Anonymous10:20 AM

      What's the matter, can't handle the TRUTH?

    10. Anonymous3:51 PM

      I never said I wouldn't vote for the Hillay, I just thought the Bernie shit was over. I was never stupid, just don't trust HRC, I will still go out and vote for her, but stop with the Bernie bashing, I get you don't like him.

  10. OT: the FTC is cracking down on Bristol's and Dakota's line of work.

  11. Anonymous7:38 AM

    BerniePac or JanePac?

    Well 74 year old Bernie needs to give Jane something to do after he passes since no college will hand over the keys to her after what Jane did to Burlington College.

  12. Anonymous7:45 AM

    Politicians have egos, but Bernie's ego is nearing the Trump level.
    If Bernie wants an Independent Party then he should form one and set up the INC, rather than using the DNC to piggy back on, use for personal political gain, or change the organization all together.

  13. Anonymous7:47 AM

    His Bernship using a PAC forbid.. Soon he'll be on the board of Wall-Mart advising to go to China for cheap goods.Next he'll be doing private pep talks to Wall St execs, for $millions and direct influence.

    1. Anonymous10:04 AM


      You got it baby, hit that nail right on the head!

      (for some reason it seems that the assumption around here is that we're all voting for Clinton, when that is anything but the case)

  14. Anonymous8:18 AM

    Funny how fame and $$$ fogs the mind and turns people into political whores to keep up the fabulous lifestyle they've had a taste of.

    No different than Sarah Palin who made an oath to American citizens but broke it after realizing how much she could cash in on foolish taxpayers.

    What about Bernie's promises to stump for Hillary? He didn't even have the decency to wait 95 more days before pushing his real agenda first after using the Dem party. Guess he and Jane figured they better $trike while the iron is hot. There's gold in them thar hills!

    Put the money god first and you'll end up just like Sarah Palin - an irrelevant oddity and footnote in history. But hey you'll have lots of "stuff"!

  15. Anonymous8:24 AM

    I used to be a Bernie supporter, but after the Pope excursion, I unsubscribed from his emails. Successfully. That is, until I got that email about his 'revolution' a couple of days ago.
    WTF?! Why is he still allowed to use the DNC email list and ActBlue?! He is NOT a Dem, he registered as an Independent, and has said repeatedly - after FINALLY giving up and endorsing Hillary - that he is an Independent.

    Signed: Pissed-off former supporter.

    1. Anonymous9:56 AM

      In your defense, Bernie sure did cloud the picture about PAC's during his campaign. Now we see the real Bernie $ander$.

    2. Anonymous11:16 AM

      Remember - BS refused to give Hillary his email list!!! The millions of names on it will never go to the Democratic party which allowed the BS artist to create havoc when the Dems were trying to launch their campaign.

      Being a woman is a much more difficult road to hoe in the world than being born with a penis - no matter the tasks. Try going to the bathroom without having to take your pants down for a leak! Even that involves more time and effort for a woman!

  16. Anonymous8:28 AM

    The biggest concern is the dumbing down of Americans that allow idiots to attempt to run this country.

    People do not change. Circumstances may change for them that alter their course somewhat but they return to the same old person eventually. Liars are always liars, grifters are always grifters, and suckers can always be suckered.

    Con artist BS is just not going to stop using the Dems to line his coffers. True to who he is which has always been and always will be - a user. Give you something or help you get something? Who are you kidding? Wisen up!

  17. Anonymous8:52 AM

    "I believe". Big fucking deal. What you 'believe/feel' should not be taught in the classroom. It IS NOT SCIENCE.

    Science updates itself periodically when new evidence is unearthed. The stone age book does not.

    1. Anonymous10:16 AM

      oops, wrong thread... belongs in the pence preacher thread.

  18. Sounds like someone is angling for a Breitbart gig the way they go out of their way to attack progressives here almost daily.

    1. Anonymous10:07 AM

      This isn't a Progressive blog, it's a moderate to right-leaning Democrat blog.

      We have a Progressive Alaskan voice, Shannyn Moore, you can hear her on KOAN radio or read her editorials in ADN but sadly she's become the lone progressive voice in our Alaskan wilderness.

  19. Anonymous9:13 AM

    Why Bernie Sanders deserves a big FUC_ YOU?

    Bernie said he wants to change his political party alliance from Independent to the Democratic Party and run for president on the Democratic ticket. He said he is a Democrat.

    Okay, the party let him in. As Sanders presidential opponent Hillary Clinton was raising money for her campaign, Hillary Clinton also raised money for other Democrats on the down ticket.

    Did Sanders raise money for other Democrats running for office?

    Yes, sort of. Sanders only raised money for specific Democrats that held his same values and it was less than a handful.

    Sanders wasn't interested in having the Democratic Party control the Senate and the House of Representatives.

    Sanders was only interested in helping himself and the handful of Democrats he liked.

    So yes FUC_ HIM

    1. Anonymous9:59 AM

      Sanders only helped democrats who were opposing people like Debbie W/S. I hope Bernie loses his senate seat. He sure doesn't deserve to keep it.

  20. Anonymous9:20 AM

    Whatever happened to "We must elect Hilary"? And "we must defeat Trump at all costs"?

    Ole Bernie seems to once again in the 'what's in it for me" mode. Just another PAC whore using donations to fund a nifty lifestyle. Might we consider Queen Jane is behind the whole thing?

  21. Anonymous9:24 AM

    How is it even legal to be going through ActBlue for a Pac if he's not a candidate?

    1. Anonymous10:19 AM

      ActBlue bills itself as "the online clearinghouse for Democratic action."

      Just goes to show how Bernie is STILL using the Democratic party for his own Independent purposes. In other words he wants it both ways and still scamming.

      How he can do this I don't know. Must be a loophole somewhere. . . That's what people like Trump, Palin & Sanders have lawyers for.

  22. Anonymous9:41 AM

    Proof of misuse of campaign funds is an action by the FEC, not a diary at Kos quoting another blogger's opinion piece.

  23. Could someone please name one thing Bernie Sanders has done throughout his career for personal financial gain? Just one? This is in stark contrast to people like Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton whose every public utterance and action is designed to bring speaking fees from special interests. How dare supporters of her accuse Sanders of grifting when there is nothing in his 70 years of existence to suggest this is what he would do.

    1. Anonymous10:24 AM

      As soon as he shows his tax returns I'll get back to ya on that.

      In the meantime do your own research.

    2. Anonymous10:31 AM

      Bernie Sanders Has His Own Shadowy Donors — And They’re Nurses
      The union super PAC is a bit different from Clinton’s group but it’s there nonetheless.

    3. Anonymous10:36 AM

      Bernie Sanders and his wife have on numerous occasions steered money from organizations under their control to friends and family members, public records show.

    4. Anonymous10:38 AM

      While Sanders claims to be a champion of the poor and middle class, it appears he’s acting exactly like his opponent Hillary Clinton. Are you surprised to learn of this new report?

      Sanders paid his wife more than $90k in campaign services… and hired his daughter for $65,000. Read this…

    5. Anonymous10:49 AM


      They ALL do it, and I guess really I have no problem with candidates hiring their families; a person works for the campaign the person gets paid a reasonable wage, which is seems is the case here.

      There are no rules against hiring family to work your campaign, and really, would YOU work for free? I doubt it.

    6. Anonymous11:23 AM

      9:44 am When someone comes across as totally uninformed as you are it is impossible to expect you to have any comprehension of what is going on around you.

      If you read this blog all you had to do was read my entries about BS and his incompetent wife, Jane.

      Did you not follow the >$600,000 illegal campaign financed expenditure for BS and his ten family members to spend 10 minutes with the pope while housed in &400+ hotel rooms? Sheesh - so hard to educate you uneducatable dolts.

    7. Anonymous11:31 AM

      Don't get your undies all up in a wad 10:49. Andrew asked to name ONE thing. The question was answered.

    8. Anonymous12:02 PM

      Andrew Pricksuk You must be illiterate when it comes to using google.

    9. Anonymous12:28 PM

      Wow 12:02pm Not only are you one of the great unwashed morons that are now stinking up this joint, you are also incredibly immature! Maybe Reddit would be more your speed, or 4Chan? You don't seem to be a good fit for here, that's for sure.

      Move along...don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!

    10. Anonymous7:12 AM

      @12:28 PM Since when did your immature ass commandeer this blog? Maybe YOU should move along, troll.

    11. Anonymous7:15 AM

      Andrew has a propensity to comment in his own defense as an anonymous poster.

  24. Anonymous9:48 AM

    What political party is Sanders currently part of?

    1. Anonymous2:52 PM

      The Jane and Bernie and our family members party of course.

  25. 66gardeners9:50 AM

    I find Bernie's motives to be suspect as well. Debbie Wasserman Schultz does far more for progress in this country than Bernie Sanders ever will. Seems to me Berniebros are more worried about shooting arrows at democrats.

    Bernie declined to turn over his e-mail list when he ended his campaign. Very telling. Karl Rove was known to donate to him. Also, where are Bernie's taxes. Bernie is no better than $arah in this regard.

  26. Anonymous9:51 AM

    I have an idea, how about not donating your hard earned money to any political causes? How about getting money out of politics and having federally funded and equitably funded campaigns?

    All these PACs, don't care whose they are, are money pits that spend more on administration and "perks" rather than actual candidates or campaigns.

    Just say no. Go shopping, have a nice dinner, do something that actually affects the economy rather than dumping money into the political cesspool.

  27. Anonymous9:52 AM

    You just can't let it go, can you?

    And here, after a week of almost no vitriol, I thought this blog might be back to normal.

    1. Calling out hypocrites, liars, and grifters is normal for this blog.

    2. Anonymous10:12 AM

      So, when will you report on Hillary's hypocrisy, lying and grifting?

    3. Anonymous10:16 AM

      Gryphen please, take off the rose-colored glasses.

      You need to realize that politicians are ALL grifters, whether they are amassing cash, adoration or votes.

      They don't care about people they only care what's in it for them. They are narcissistic, ego-driven greedy, attention-seekers. That's what it takes to run for office so that's what we get, these ARE the people that run and this IS what they do.

      Following politics is a depressing business that many of us can't stomach.

    4. Anonymous10:22 AM

      You've presented no evidence or proof that Sanders is a hypocrite, a liar or a grifter. Stop defaming the man. It's over. Your gal won. Let it go.

    5. Anonymous11:56 AM

      10:12/10:16/10:22 Are you the same person? The truth hurts, lol, bwahahahahaha.

    6. Anonymous11:58 AM

      @9:52 AM Do you really believe that your drivel has an effect on Gryphen's threads?
      If you don't like the content, go elsewhere, trolls.

    7. Anonymous6:11 PM

      I guess you don't vet you sources for Bernie like you do your other so-called news.

      You won't give us proof about so much Palin because you need to verify and get three independent sources et all gag me.

      But when it comes to bashing Bernie, you'll grasp any gossip you can to smear him and then give a big fuck you grow up you dumb ass Bernie supporters when they don't swallow your gossip hook line and sinker.

      I've seen more questionable activities from Hillary and Bill than from Bernie Sanders. And yet the sun rises and sets on Saint Hillary while Bernie is the Anti-Christ.

      Exactly what is your personal vendetta against Bernie Sanders, Gryphen? Did he steal your lollipop? Kick your dog?

  28. Anonymous10:01 AM

    What a minute, Bernie an INDEPENDENT is using ActBlue a DEMOCRATIC PAC for fund raising?

    Why doesn't he set up his own PAC, he doesn't want to campaign for Democrats down ticket, but he wants all the benefits?

    I knew there was something I didn't like about Bernie from the very beginning.

    1. Anonymous2:54 PM's a secret from his "revolutionaries".

    2. Anonymous6:12 PM

      He campaigned for a Democrat in Wisconsin and gave him campaign money but Gryphen won't give him credit for that because it goes against his hate meme.

  29. Anonymous10:05 AM

    You. Won.
    Hillary will be President.

    Why are you still so ANGRY at Bernie? For trying to make the party more progressive? (Yeah, fuck THAT!?)

    It is beyond the pale to compare Sanders to Palin OR Ron Paul.

    And you know it.

    1. Anonymous11:31 AM

      No, that comparison is right on target. You believe, as BS writes, that if we turn all teen age girls loose and make sure they get sex as frequently as possible they won't get breast cancer when they become adults? That is Bernie's teaching and his written essay says so, along with saying women fantasize about being raped by three men at once blah, blah, blah.

      For gods sake if you ignoramuses are going to bash Gryphen read the sh** old BS has written about women and other trash and follow the money (Jane caused the college to shut down months short of semester ending and threw students out of graduation opportunity etc. - no different than Drumpf with Trump U) and if you don't know what the hell you are supporting and can't bother to read up on the A** holes you are supporting then stay the hell away from the blog.

    2. Anonymous11:53 AM

      11:31 am Great comment.

  30. Anonymous10:10 AM

    Speaking of lazy-ass palin and her lazy-ass family who live for free, Even the president's 15-year-old daughter works:

  31. Anonymous10:11 AM

    Bernie's presence as a candidate in this race pulled the entire Democratic platform to the left, where it needed to go after languishing somewhat right of center for many years.

    Sounds to me as if he wants to continue to make the Democratic party even more democratic by pulling in young people, supporting local races through grass roots organizing and generally pulling more people into the Democrat tent.

    I don't donate to political causes but what he's doing seems anything but nefarious. I doubt that Act Blue would act as fundraising surrogate for him if there was any doubt to the legitimacy of his intentions.

    1. Anonymous3:23 PM

      Except that he has gone back to being an Independent.

    2. Anonymous6:15 PM

      Just goes to show no good deed goes unpunished.

      And Gryphen is launching a one man punishment squad that will continue the hate until, who knows?

      Because the Bernie supporters are not going to "smarten up" no matter how often Gryphen unloads his bile.

      They won't be hating on Bernie. Gryphen on the other hand....

  32. Anonymous10:18 AM

    @Gryph If you can't see the writing on the wall, that Trump has committed campaign suicide by alienating an important part of his base, and continue to drive home your vendetta against Bernie supporters ( AN IMPORTANT PART OF HILLARY'S BASE,) you clearly don't know shit about politics.

    You have already won, unless you let shit get under your skin and BLOW IT like Trump has.

    Jesus, man, get ahold of yourself.

    1. Anonymous10:53 AM

      Thank you. Never seen sorer winners than Hillary fans.

    2. Anonymous11:50 AM

      @10:18/10:53 "Jesus, man, get ahold of yourself". You trolls 'get a hold of yourselves' every time you post your silly comments here.

    3. Anonymous11:50 AM

      Yes I see this blogger still has a real bad case of Bernie derangement syndrome. So sad to see him turn into a WLB when it comes to Sanders.

    4. Anonymous11:51 AM

      @10:53 AM Were those Hillary fans who were disrupting speeches at the DNC?

    5. Anonymous2:56 PM

      11:50 We see you have a bad case of Gryphen derangement syndrome. Just like the Palins and the sea of pee club who read here.

    6. Anonymous6:17 PM

      "Troll" being anyone that doesn't fall in line and goosestep with the Hillary supporters?

  33. Republicans will just jump on this as a movement to recruit young people to Socialism,only they will call it Communism. Just watch.

  34. Anonymous10:45 AM

    O/T Bye Bye GOP, couldn't happen to a nicer group of racists:

    Republicans Terrified As White Working Class Voters Are Abandoning Donald Trump

    1. Anonymous12:25 PM

      My extended family is long-time GOP and except for one of my uncles they are all sitting this one out as they can't find it in themselves to vote for Trump.

  35. Anonymous11:37 AM

    I think the bernie's bawling babies are sad because the Pope didn't give him sainthood. Their anger is laughable. Maybe he will give them their $27 dollars back he & Jane collected in millions so they can attend Comic-Con and wear costumes.

    1. Anonymous12:22 PM

      What a weird comment as most Bernie supporters are Atheist and kind of thought it was more than strange for him to want to meet the pope anyway.

    2. Anonymous2:54 PM

      Not a weird comment at all 11:37, Bernie Sanders was merely riding the pope's coattails for publicity and money. Nobody who knows him thought that was strange.

      He had no business harassing the pope, which may not have upset his cult but sure as hell got the attention of the rest of America whose votes he needed.

  36. Anonymous2:51 PM

    It would have been smarter for Sanders to wait until after the debates to begin this shit. But he was never very good at seeking and taking good advice, was he?

    And I too would like to know the fate of all those millions that Jane from Accounting squirreled away during the campaign.

  37. Anonymous2:53 PM

    BDS does strange things to generally reasonable Hillary minions.

  38. Anonymous5:16 PM

    I just opened a hermetically sealed envelope after rubbing it on my forehead and saying "Yes is the answer" The note says The question is.... "Has Bernie lost all his marbles?" Karnack the magnificent never fails.


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