Saturday, October 01, 2016

Even Fox News polls show that Hillary Clinton destroyed Donald Trump in the debate. And her poll numbers have gone up as a result.

Courtesy of Business Insider:  

A Fox News poll released Friday confirmed what other scientific surveys have found in the aftermath of the first presidential debate: Hillary Clinton prevailed over Donald Trump in the affair, and she has seen a slight overall national bump because of it. 

The poll, which was conducted entirely after the debate, found that 61% of voters who watched the debate viewed Clinton as the winner. Just 21% thought Trump came out on top.

Okay just take a moment to look at these numbers.

This is not just eking out a victory, or even beating somebody handily. 61 to 21 is stomping him into a mud hole and taking a week's worth of lunch money.

Of course there is one person who completely disagrees with these polling results. 
And since the debate we have watched Trump making things infinitely worse by having a Twitter meltdown over Miss Venezuela.

That is like beating a man in a boxing ring and then having him fall down the stairs while exiting the building, and then being hit by oncoming traffic as he crosses the street to his car.

And the effect of this?

Courtesy of Fox News:

A new Fox News poll shows Hillary Clinton has a slight lead over Donald Trump after the first presidential debate. 

On "Special Report" tonight, Bret Baier revealed that in a four-way presidential race, Clinton got 43 percent, compared to 41 percent earlier this month.

Remember folks this is a Fox News poll.

There are also a number of state polls showing Hillary making significant gains as well.  Including in some swing states.

And it has been enough for the folks over at FiveThirtyEight to make this observation: 

National polls conducted since Monday’s presidential debate have shown Hillary Clinton ahead of Donald Trump by an average of about 4 percentage points — a meaningful improvement from her position before the debate, when she led by just 1 or 2 points. Now, it’s becoming clearer that battleground state polls are moving toward Clinton as well.

There was an attempt by the Right Wing, including some talking heads on Fox News, to use those unreliable online polls to create the narrative that Trump had done much better than expected, but now that the more trustworthy polls, including one Fox News itself,  are showing just the opposite it is going to be much harder for them to continue lying to themselves.

Not impossible mind you, but much harder.

So what does this all mean?

Well essentially as long as Hillary Clinton is not filmed stomping on kittens she should have this thing in the bag.

And hopefully Trump will follow through with his threat to use Bill's past infidelities to attack Hillary in the next debate, because that can do NOTHING but help Democrats in the long run.


  1. Olivia2:18 PM

    In the next debate, the very first thing Hillary should do is offer to swap microphones with Trump.

    1. "Never wager with a Sicilian when Death is on the line!" (sorry it's a paraphrase)

    2. Anonymous3:43 PM

      NO NO NO, that is essentially saying he is right and giving him the power, besides she would get his coodies :)

    3. Anonymous4:18 PM

      Great idea, 2:18 PM! Cracked me up!

  2. "Well essentially that as long as Hillary Clinton is not filmed stomping on kittens she should have this thing in the bag."

    Take this back: if Fox News says Hillary is winning, they are more likely to incite Repubs to vote. Nothing is safe with the GOP mob/and its controllers (Kochs, etc.) still controlling voting machines, gerrymandering, voter suppression, intimidation, closing all but a few polls for 200,000 voters..., closing early, running out of ballots...

    They know how to win: cheat. So, whatever the polls say, vote.

    1. Anonymous3:12 PM

      I think tRumph made sure he doesn't have the minority vote, including the 2 largest minority blocs of blacks and Hispanics.
      Unlike what most white people think, no presidential candidate can win any more without the majority of the minority vote.

    2. Anonymous4:17 PM

      That is what the fat, white Republican men are afraid of - the minorities will outnumber the white population and they are frightened to death of the thought!

      Poor bastards and racists!

  3. And if Trump doesn't win, he declare the election fraudulent and hold up government for months, if not years. Democracy is on the ropes in America, no doubt about it.

  4. Anonymous2:37 PM

    Trump is delusional to think that the mic made a difference in the poll results. It was easy to hear everything he said (and sniffed) in the TV coverage and that was how the majority of 80 million viewers watched the debate.

    1. Anonymous7:38 PM

      It only effected the hall. TV coverage was fine. Does he really think there were enough people in the hall to skew the polls?

  5. Fuck Trump3:05 PM

    "An old New York Daily News article has surfaced that tells a story of Trump pressuring his future wife, against her will, to pose for Playboy magazine. Trump personally negotiated the fee, according to the report."

    What is the definition of a pimp?

    1. Anonymous3:53 PM

      I am sure the donald will say he was only negotiating the best deal for her because he is world's greatest negotiator and he didn't take a penny of her money :)

    2. Donald Dump4:15 PM

      "But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

    3. Anonymous6:21 PM

      Wrong, 4:15pm! Thanks for playing!

    4. Anonymous6:24 PM


      Well, he did end up getting impeached for lying about his affair, so doesn't that make it all better?

    5. Anonymous8:04 PM

      The senate did not reach the 2/3's majority needed to fully process his impeachment. Clinton was impeached by the House on two charges. The first being perjury, and the second being obstruction of justice. Following this he was acquitted by the senate.Feb 4, 2012

    6. Anonymous8:26 AM

      And I'm sure he kept that fee too. Because that is what Trump does. He's nothing but a glorified pimp.

  6. Anonymous3:08 PM

    Poor Drumph, still trying to sell off his constant sniffling as a "microphone issue. If it was a microphone issue the viewers would never have heard the cocaine sniffling or read the 3am cocaine tweets.

    1. Anonymous3:34 PM

      You could see and hear the sniffling. He is a fool and believes everyone else must be fools too.

  7. Anonymous3:14 PM

    Bring it on ... Donald! We got this!!!

  8. Anonymous3:26 PM

    This election will be stolen by the deplorables.

    1. Anonymous3:42 PM

      Don't count on it

  9. Anonymous3:34 PM

    Trump and the defective mic are just a joke. He always breathes in through his nose. It's something that's been noticeable in the past and something that Rachel Maddow has joked about for months. He was stressed out at the debate, shaky hands, drinking water (oh where were you on that little Marco LOL) and breathing heavily -- hence the snorking which was picked up by the mic. I think you'd hear it more during his rallies except for the background noise - the room at the debates was dead quiet for the most part.

    1. Anonymous4:14 PM

      Yes and yes and yes. Thank you.

  10. Anonymous3:47 PM

    "Well essentially that as long as Hillary Clinton is not filmed stomping on kittens she should have this thing in the bag."
    I disagree, nothing is in the bag until people vote.

    the rethugs are going to do everything in their power to disrupt the voting precincts.

    1. Anonymous4:16 PM

      Remember 2000 and the Brooks Brothers riot.

  11. Anonymous3:47 PM

    1. Anonymous4:19 PM

      Ha ha ha ha ha!! Hilarious.

      And I wonder if he told himself what he told Miss Australia: suck in your gut.

  12. Anonymous4:17 PM

    I just read that Ivanka is having a cow over Kelly Ann Conway making an error on the View this week. Conway saved Trump's fat ass. Now she makes a mistake and Ivanka's not having it. Gotta wonder if Kelly Ann will be leaving the campaign soon. Ooh, I'd love it--she has been the only one able to keep that fatty piece of shit from completely tanking.

  13. Anonymous5:13 PM

    I sniffle won sniffle the debate sniffle if you count sniffle that my sniffle mic was sabotaged. Take your meds, Donald, you seem to have RSBSS. Repetitive Sniffling Bullshit Syndrome". His petrologist says he has the worse case of Ed Zachary Disease. His face looks Ed Zachary like his butt.

  14. Anonymous5:26 PM

    So know wonder he keeps repeating it was a bad mic, he is the one that damaged it:

    Trump: I won debate 'despite really bad microphone'

    .....(According to a source with knowledge of conversations with the debate commissioners, part of the issue rested with Trump touching his microphone, something candidates had been told not to do because the microphones were "calibrated exactly" to the candidate's voice.)....

    Read more:

    1. Anonymous7:00 PM

      Think about this with expectant glee: Trump is going to be paying so much attention to his breathing in the next debate to avoid the SNIFFles that his remaining brain cell with explode astonishingly tremendously. Believe me. It's going to be a beautiful thing.

    2. Anonymous8:21 PM

      If he weren't such a narcissistic fool who believes he is without fault he would hire a speech coach, he definitely needs one. Regulating breathing is one of the first things taught in public speaking courses.

  15. Anonymous8:00 PM

    Saturday drumpf>“I don’t even think she’s loyal to Bill, to tell you the truth. And why should she be, right? Why should she be?”

  16. Anonymous8:06 PM

    Unfair! They told me not to touch the microphone but i am Trump! I should be able to touch the microphone like i touch Melania . I don't know but i have heard that many, many people are saying how unfair it was and i actually won!.

    I spend my time on twitter running down a woman who is not as hot as Melania. Love my 3rd wife she never got fat like all the losers wives out there who had a kid and "porked up" . She had Trump Jr. and starved herself to please me.

    Sure i paid for her boobs. That is called loyalty people. She knows her meal ticket.

    I am fat and bald without my combover but hey i am a guy who has money to pay her bills. Bitch better feed my ego. She already fed it by posing nude on my plane! Look at me my dick may be small and i may be a lard ass but those bitches better stay in shape if they want to bask in the glow of my greatness.

    I am THE DONALD. Melania would be nothing without me, hell that bitch can hardly speak English.It's not like i care about that i did not marry her for her for her sparkling conversation.Contract baby as long as she stays hot. Sure she is hoping i kick the bucket before she does can you say prenup? Value systems on display for all the red neck losers out there who wish they had the money to buy a piece of ass like i can.Make America Great Again.

  17. Anonymous9:35 PM

    NIGEL Farage led the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP), an anti-Europe and far right wing party, until he stepped down less than two weeks after the Brexit vote.


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