Hart was not accused of raping Donna Rice, he did not slut shame her, he did not sexually harass her, and really there is only minimal evidence that he even had a sexual relationship with her.
And yet back in the 1980's this was all it took to stop an extremely popular presidential candidate from winning the White House.
And just look where we are today.
Progress!
ReplyDeleteIf my memory is working, Hart dared the press to find this kind of dirt on him, and they went to work. (The boat was called the "Monkey Business!") Hart lowered the bar, Clinton lowered it more, Larry Craig stayed and finished his term, Jim Bakker is preaching again, and while he proved unable to control his impulse, Anthony Weiner did wrangle absolution at least once. It's not a complete surprise that Trump might think similar exploits are something to brag about.
ReplyDeleteI remember that. It was scandalous!
ReplyDeleteIt was scandalous because Hart was married at the time. Like an idiot, he "dared" the press to find anything scandalous, and they did.
DeleteI remember learning where Bimini was. Had never heard of it.
DeleteA photo like that would hurt Hilary Clinton. But those supporting TRump for the most part, have resigned themselves or actually love the nasty parts of him. That's why the shackles off is not going to do anything in terms of losing his core supporters. They go for this crap. In fact, the more of it the better. I think he's targeting them in hopes of getting their butts to the polls on election day. His biggest challenge is getting those undeducated male voters in the battleground states registered and actually to the polls to vote. If he does that, it is possible to impact the election. Registering to vote in a lot of those states closed yesterday, I believe, and registration is up in those states. Enough? Who knows. That's phase 1. That they actually vote would be phase 2. Trump is done trying to court those who have any brains at all unless he has specifically for them which is how he has Cruz Rubio Priebus permanently on the hook. They will personally gain big with a TRump Victory, and in Cruz's case, he will have a problem with his constituents who strongly support TRump if he doesn't back them. Ohio, FLorida, PA are key and TRump has been working his backside off in those states. Frightening how many support him there Family in OHio all TRump supporters. Trump signs all over middle of PA, not a Clinton sign to be seen.
ReplyDeleteSo Rebecca has travelled all over middle PA looking for Trump signs? Get real, Rebecca Trollrig.
DeleteWe Hillary supporters are reluctant to put signs on our lawns because we know unhinged Trump supporters will come around and tear them down, possibly break our windows, vandalize our cars, or even (for some of the more passionate ones) burn our houses down. We'll be there for HRC where it counts, though.
DeleteYou could have just typed Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania and we could have figured out the rest.
DeleteThe difference is that he was a Democrat. While it was almost forty years ago, I suspect the same thing would destroy a Democratic contender for the White House. You know, when Adlai Stevenson ran for president in 1952, one of the big GOP gripes was that he had been divorced. And, much more recently, the GOP used divorce against John Kerry. And would have used it, plus much more whether true or untrue, against Ted Kennedy had he ever put his name into contention.
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Another difference is that he was/is WHITE and MALE. So that pic destroyed his White House chances. But if he was BLACK that pic would have been certainly labelled as a sexual predator.
DeleteLike many attractive popsies, Donna Rice lived at Turnberry while romancing Hart. They got caught because the then owner of Turnberry Isle was a Republican--he called the press. Boom!
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Also, too she was NOT his daughter!!
ReplyDeleteMost of us would be fired from our jobs for such boorish behavior, yet dRumpf is revered by many for it. SMDH.
ReplyDeleteApparently the producers of the Today show set a much higher bar than the powers of the RNC.
DeleteIt was his hubris that took him down. He not only lied to the press, he tantalized them with a dare to catch him. They didn't take it well. He wasn't even living with his wife at the fund as I recall.
ReplyDelete99% Invisible did a good podcast about this a while back.
Here's what should be the point: CONSENT.
ReplyDeleteWhose 'sexual mistakes' included Consent and whose did not? Cheating on your spouse can indeed harm relationships, but consensual sex is not sexual assault. Non-consensual sex IS rape.
Everybody who's human has made mistakes. Did those 'mistakes' include forcing someone to deal with your unwanted touch while you got your rocks off? Nahhh, that's RAPE and rape isn't a 'mistake', sorry rape apologists you can't excuse it away anymore. Rape is a horrible act of volition on the part of the rapist against an innocent victim, a victim who does NOT want the sick perv to touch them.
A young lady, aged 18 recently wore a t-shirt she designed herself to a Drumpf rally. It read, "Grab my pussy, I dare you", and she was verbally threatened by mainly older white men. Many comments on Huffpo were about how she needs to not provoke. WHAT?!
How about men who feel entitled to grope/sexually assault to just NOT? Why would that attitude not be the prevalent one? Hmmmm......
Back to it----Consent. This nation needs to have an open discussion about sexual consent. This offends the xtians, since your wife is just there for sex service/baby making. 'Consent' implies she has a mind and an opinion and might even think she owns her body, gasp.
Not just consent.
DeleteCharacter.
What the GOP is giving us is a sexual predator with a clear pattern. From his three marriages (so far), two of which ended with adultery (yes he blamed Marla but I think we can all agree he probably cheated on her and did it first) to his voyeurism and lust for nubile young women.
Entering the Miss Teenage USA dressingrooms to leer at the girls is the act of a sexual predator. The fact he owned the pageant is immaterial. That's akin to the owner of a Day Care claiming he can fondle the children because he owns the place.
I've been saying that all of these sex scandals will be taking down Trump. The U.S. is an extremely Puritan country at it's roots. There is one thing the people will not tolerate, not even the Evangelicals, and that is a pervert in the Oval Office.
Trump was right when he said he could murder someone and not lose any votes. We are a violent country and are desensitized to it. However, were he to rape a woman or grope a teenage girl, that is an entirely different story. We are a prudish nation and offended by nudity and sex.
That will be Trump's undoing. The more he doubles down or dismisses it as insignificant, the lower his numbers will go.
Right, and Jimmy Carter was criticized unmercifully by the evangelicals for saying he "had lusted in his heart." Look at who they are embracing now.
ReplyDeleteAnd then they supported St. Ronnie who had been divorced and wasn't exactly the best of father's. Carter is an evangelical who lives true Christian values, but Falwell and company hated him but he wouldn't force his beliefs on the country.
Deletedid you genuflect when you said Saint Ronnie? Just kidding.
DeleteEvangelicals, Fundamentalists and conservative Christians are starting to abandon him. They forgave him for everything up until the sex stuff. That's crosses the line.
DeleteMiss O'kistic tweeted:
ReplyDeleteDonald Trump: I do sex crimes.
Beyonce: I reward consensual, enjoyable sex with Cheddar Bay biscuits.
Trump supporters: CHECKMATE, LIBERALS!
How many Trump supporters even know what consensual sex IS?
“Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”
ReplyDeleteA creep and a pussy grabber pageant owner using his ownership to peep the Miss America contestant's privates is bad enough...but looking on purpose when they are underage is a entirely criminal thing.
Teen Beauty Queens Say Trump Walked In On Them Changing
“Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kendalltaggart/teen-beauty-queens-say-trump-walked-in-on-them-changing
Well he didn't use a peephole like Todd 'the wimp' Palin.
DeleteVoyeur. Pervert. Pedophile. Sexual abuser.
DeleteCan't wait until convicted rapist is added to the list.
There was also a big stink when it came out that Gary Hart had changed his name from Hartpence to Hart. I guess just plain Pence is okay though.
ReplyDeleteWhy?
ReplyDeleteIronically unplanned/teen pregnancy in the 80s and 90s were drastically higher than in point in the last 10 years.
ReplyDeleteHypocrites everywhere.
A House Rep was just asked if he'd still endorse Trump if it was learned that Trump had raped. The Rep didn't say no. He'd have to think about it.
ReplyDeleteThink about it? Really? He has to *THINK ABOUT IT*?
DeleteAnd there's your GOP. Putting Party above Country. They're OK with a sexual pervert in the Oval Office as long as they win.
Politicians don't want to just quickly answer. The question seems obvious but it could be a trick question.
ReplyDeleteSo many people(sans Hillary),are totally afraid of Trump, and it shows.
ReplyDelete...you people are delusional.
ReplyDeleteHave you seen the email dumps??
She has spoken horribly about the majority of Citizens and has funded most our enemies.
WAKE UP
You really believe that some of those emails haven't been doctored? WAKE UP TROLL!Roger Stone is complicit 100%.
DeleteBush, Cheny and Co "disappeared" 22 MILLION e-mails you low IQ hypocrite.
DeleteGo back and pee in your pond.
This is how politics got so ugly, our sec of state was swiftboated by a photo of him water surfing. I don't think Don knows the meaning of detant, getting allies together, or keeping secrets that need to be kept for security reasons. Forget counter espionage, some russian spy strokes his ego and he'll sing like a canary.
ReplyDeleteA Russian Ultra-Nationalist has threatened that we better vote for Trump or there will be nuclear war.
Deletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russian-ultra-nationalist-says-vote-trump-or-risk-nuclear-war_us_57fe91bee4b0e8c198a5ac5a?section=&
This photo is tame compared tot eh phtots of Drumpf and his DAUGHTER Ivanka.
ReplyDeleteI wish women heads of state in other countries would make public statements about Drumpfs behavior.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Current-Women-Leaders.htm