Wednesday, November 23, 2016

Donald Trump now seems to oppose going after Hillary Clinton on the e-mails. Flip meet flop.

Courtesy of CNN: 

During the presidential campaign, President-elect Donald Trump pledged to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton, would join crowds of his supporters in chants of "lock her up!" and said to her face during a debate that if he were president, "you'd be in jail." But now that he actually will be president, Trump says he won't recommend prosecution of Clinton, who he told New York Times reporters has "suffered greatly." What's more, he said the idea of prosecuting Clinton is "just not something I feel very strongly about."

You may remember that at one point in the debates Trump suggested that if he were president he would appoint a special prosecutor to go after Hillary and put her in prison.

Which of all the stupid things he said was perhaps one of the stupidest, since a president does not determine who the Justice Department investigates, and attempting to imprison a political rival is something they only do in third world countries.

And of course Russia.

As you might imagine this change of heart did not go over well with those who supported Trump during the campaign:

“Broken Promise,” blared Breitbart, the conservative website that promoted Mr. Trump’s candidacy and gave him the mastermind of his campaign, Stephen K. Bannon. The conservative provocateur Ann Coulter was no more subtle.

Judicial Watch, the conservative legal organization that has doggedly pursued Mrs. Clinton and former President Bill Clinton, also chimed in: 

“Donald Trump must commit his administration to a serious, independent investigation of the very serious Clinton national security, email, and pay-to-play scandals. If Mr. Trump’s appointees continue the Obama administration’s politicized spiking of a criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton, it would be a betrayal of his promise to the American people to “drain the swamp” of out-of-control corruption in Washington.”

I think these people better start getting used to being disappointed, because I have a feeling that this is only the beginning of Donald Trump letting them down.

Which I guess would put them in the same camp as the rest of us who are totally disappointed by this election.


  1. Anonymous6:19 AM

    I don't think it's flip flopping as much as his puppeteers have started to pull the strings. They'll be cautious knowing trump's volatility, but have no doubt, they are in control now.

    1. Anonymous7:33 AM

      “I don’t see how the Electoral College can vote for someone to become president who’s going to be in violation of the Constitution on Day 1, and hasn’t assured us he’s not in violation,” Painter said. “This is just as important as your birth certificate, more important than your birth certificate, or proof of age or what other requirements there are to become president of the United States.”

    2. Anonymous7:49 AM

      Also, too: he may just be feinting right now. Like, an occasionally created false impression gives more riggling room for all...

    3. Anonymous7:57 AM

      Exactly. Just saw in one of the papers where an heiress named Mercer somebody who doesn't like the limelight was instrumental in getting Trump elected. Not clear whether she's an operative of the Kochs or works on her own fuel. But they are saying she is on of the puppeteers. So a woman did win after all?

    4. Anonymous10:38 AM


      The Mercers are Texas billionaires who were staunch supporters of Cruz until Trump overtook him.

    5. Anonymous7:51 PM

      The Mercers sponsor Kellyane Conway and Steve Bannon.


  2. Sounds familiar doesn't it....think back to why Bushco wasn't prosecuted. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. (Isn't it ironic...don't you think?

    1. Yeah I must have missed that day when Barack Obama promised his followers he would prosecute the outgoing president, or his political opponent.

      But hey, nice try.

    2. Anonymous8:03 AM

      @Gles 6:22 AM

      Presidents are the executive branch of the government, they DO NOT prosecute, that is NOT their job. That is the job of the judicial branch of the government.

  3. Anonymous6:35 AM

    As most of us knew, as with Benghazi, there was no "there" there.

  4. Anonymous6:37 AM

    ‘Hillary for Prison’ Crew Turns on Donald Trump

    ...Bill Mitchell, a small-time talk-show host and a fervent Trump supporter, suggested the president-elect was pulling a Machiavellian maneuver.

    “You may be upset Trump has signaled he will not ‘persecute Hillary,’ but you will see in short the this was brilliant strategic positioning,” he wrote on Twitter. “When Trump looks at an apple, he doesn’t just see the apple, he sees the soil and the tree and the farmer and the rain. Trust him.”

    1. Anonymous7:48 AM

      Just watch this thing say he isn't going to go after Hilary and then after PO is out of office he does.
      He does whatever the last person he talked to says he should do.

    2. 7:48


      Which is why Obama needs to blanket pardon Hillary whether she wants it or not. Insurance.

  5. Anonymous6:39 AM

    Donald Trump Week of Wild WTF Reversals

    ...It may be the Hillary stuff, though, that really takes the cake. First of all, the most astonishing aspect of this is the way the media have been reporting it. “President Trump has decided he will not pursue a criminal prosecution of Hillary Clinton...” No, you idiots! President Trump, like all presidents, has no power to decide who is and is not subject to criminal prosecution in this country. At least the Beast story noted that the president doesn’t have this authority. Most outlets didn’t even bother, which represents a shocking acceptance of Trumpian presumptions about executive power. It pained me yesterday to be reduced to agreeing with Ann Coulter, who pointed this out on Twitter.

    As for Trump, though: He made this promise to his voters at the second debate, and it seems obvious now that he never had the slightest intention of following through on it. It’s just something he, no doubt with Steve Bannon and Roger Stone and maybe Rudy Giuliani egging him on came up with that sounded great in the moment—it would generate headlines, drive cable-news chatter, give some sastisfaction to the anti-Clinton set he was driving into a frenzy. He didn’t mean a word of it.

    1. Anonymous8:07 PM

      He said it to get the NAZI vote and it worked.

  6. Anonymous6:47 AM

    Trump Won With Lowest Minority Vote In Decades, Fueling Divisions

    He received less support from black and Hispanic voters than any president in at least 40 years.

    1. Anonymous8:08 AM

      @Anonymous 6:47 AM

      Trump Won With Lowest Minority Vote In Decades
      That's proof positive that minorities are the smartest.

  7. Anonymous6:51 AM

    Hillary Clinton Now Leads Donald Trump in the Popular Vote by a Margin of Two Million

    ...According to David Wasserman of the Cook Political Report, the Democratic nominee’s total raw vote has risen to 64,223,958 compared to 62,206,395 nationwide.

  8. Anonymous6:52 AM

    ‘You Were the Ones Saying Lock Her Up!’: Megyn Kelly Grills GOP Rep. on Trump Flip-Flop

  9. Anonymous6:54 AM

    Trump Changed Positions Six Times During A One-Hour New York Times Interview

    ...What Trump’s interview with the New York Times reaffirms is that the president-elect really doesn’t believe in holding positions on anything. He has no principles. Everything is negotiable.

    That’s not a quality most folks want in their president, but it does offer good news for Trump supporters who may be disappointed that the man they voted for is abandoning key positions he took during and before his presidential campaign.

    Keep your heads up, fellow Trumpsters. There’s a good chance the president-elect will reverse these reversals very soon.

    1. Anonymous7:49 AM

      He's like a fish on a boat deck, flip flopping all over the fucking place.

    2. Anonymous10:41 AM


      Someone needs to bash his head with a baseball bat and put him out of his misery, or throw him back in the water.

    3. Anonymous6:23 PM

      10:41 that sounds like a direct threat against the President elect.

    4. Anonymous7:56 PM

      Where is Sarah, Bristol, and Willow with their clubbing of death blows to flippin' and floppin'?

  10. Anonymous6:55 AM

    Presidents don't get to choose who gets prosecuted.

    I am sure that Kellyanne will be able to explain that to the Hump. Or maybe Sarah can?
    They both look and act like the last ten minutes of prom night.
    Not original, but totally apt.

    1. No.

      But the powers behind the throne will. Wouldn't be tough to get their AG and DOJ lapdogs to do whatever they want. Then they simply tell Drumpf they're doing it. Not much he can do about it but get on board.

  11. Anonymous6:57 AM

    Trump never had any intention of locking Hillary Clinton up because he knew she broke no laws.

    1. Anonymous7:59 AM

      Yeah. He was saying what they wanted to hear. He's a game player and he pandered to them.

    2. That won't stop them.

      They have investigation after investigation and hearing after hearing until they can either manufacture something to indict her on or it's 2020 and they lose the White House and Senate.

  12. Anonymous6:58 AM

    Speaking of meaningless tweets, this is the most recent one -

    "Bus crash in Tennessee so sad & so terrible. Condolences to all family members and loved ones. These beautiful children will be remembered!"

    I say now that you're going to be President, DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS like ask the TSB to investigate how safe school buses are for children and how improvements can be made and mandated.

    But crazy me, in the US platitudes about the loss of children's lives are just that - MEANINGLESS WORDS. Lest We Forget Sandy Hook.

    1. Anonymous8:34 AM

      And if he must tweet, he has to say something that sounds serious, like Hillary does when she tweets about tragedies. Trump's shorthand in these situations is embarrassing. He needs to write one real sentence that sounds intelligent and not try to keep talking by way of the shorthand. I cannot stand the exclamation marks. Someone needs to tell him that he sounds like a fool and his tweets do not make anyone feel consoled.

  13. Anonymous7:00 AM

    Computer Scientists Pushing Clinton To Ask For Recount In 3 States

    Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private.

  14. Anonymous7:03 AM

    I so hope they do leave Hillary Clinton alone. She's been through this crap for years and nothing has been proven.

    For once, I'm in agreement w/Trump!

    1. Anonymous8:28 AM

      She's already been investigated numerous times. How many more tax dollars and years of wasted time do these "fiscal conservatives" want to spend on this?

  15. Anonymous7:03 AM

    Obama has suggested several times over the past week that he’ll join those criticizing President Trump, if necessary. “I’m going to be constrained with what I do with all of you until I am again a private citizen. But that’s not so far off,” Obama said during a conference call last week with people who have promoted his agenda through Organizing for Action. “You’re going to see me early next year and we’re going to be in a position where we can start cooking up all kinds of great stuff to do.”

  16. Anonymous7:12 AM


    1. Anonymous7:29 AM

      "Warren and Cummings want the GAO to investigate if Trump’s conflicts of interest have affected his transition, and whether or not taxpayer dollars are being spent efficiently on the transition."

    2. Anonymous7:40 AM

    3. They're going to destroy her Consumer Protection agency.

      "Senate Republicans are gearing up for an assault on one of the trademark populist achievements of the Obama administration, vowing to take on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

      The agency, the brainchild of Elizabeth Warren, back when she was a law professor, was enacted as part of the 2010 Wall Street reform bill. Since then, it has returned nearly $12 billion to 27 million consumers who’d been victims of one predatory scam or another. More than 1 million consumer complaints have been filed with the agency.

      Targeting the CFPB would seem to be a strange move under President-elect Donald Trump, a populist who won the White House on the back of deep economic anxiety, promising to break the hold the rich and powerful have on Washington.

      Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), formerly chairman of the Banking Committee, told HuffPost he wanted to see the agency eliminated. “My top priority is either to bring the consumer agency under appropriations” ― which would give Congress the power to shrink its budget, or bar it from spending money on certain activities ― “or abolish it. But we’ll see what we can do,” he said. “I think it’s been a nightmare, to a lot of businesses, small business. Unbridled power, arrogance.” "

  17. Anonymous7:20 AM




    Remember the report Kasich was asked to be the most powerful vice-president in history IN CHARGE OF ALL domestic and foreign policy and Trump's job would be Making America Great Again? Google it! That's because Trump had something else that was going to keep him distracted and busy.


    You fuckers who voted for him caused this shit!

    Everybody should read the Washington Post post. See link below

    Washington Post:
    A Trump administration could bring ‘crony capitalism’ on steroids
    By Jim Tankersley
    November 23 at 9:50 AM

    ... Trump is the head of a business empire that includes real estate developments and luxury resorts around the world. He has repeatedly said that he would turn the operations of that empire over to his children once he takes office. But in the days since he took office, Trump and his associates have taken steps that either mesh or risk meshing his business interests with his new position of power.

    He has urged British politicians to fight wind farms that could threaten the views from one of his golf courses, according to the New York Times, and included his daughter Ivanka in diplomatic discussions with the leaders of Japan and Argentina. His new Washington hotel is courting business from foreign diplomats.

    Some of America's biggest crusaders against crony capitalism warn Trump could use his position to pressure foreign leaders to accommodate his company, or to bend U.S. regulations to favor his interests over competitors. He might not even need to ask for those favors; they might just appear.

    “There’s no way that someone dealing with a Trump business doesn’t think, the guy behind the name is sitting in the White House," said Veronique de Rugy, a senior research fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University ....

    .... conservative columnist Holman W. Jenkins Jr. said Trump's administration could "swirl down a drain of cronyism."

    "Foreign and domestic business interests will be lining up to partner with the Trump children believing it buys favor with the Trump administration," he wrote. "It can’t be otherwise on our human planet."

    Trump's policy initiatives pose a second threat, de Rugy says, including an infrastructure spending push that could be steered toward the president's friends or business associates. Ronald Klain, a former aide to President Obama, warned Democrats recently that Trump's funding plan for infrastructure, which relies heavily on tax credits for private industry, would amount to "a massive corporate welfare plan for contractors." ....

    .... The diversion of resources to a president's businesses or his friends can chill competition; saddle consumers with fewer choices and higher prices; and erode incentives to work, innovate and invest....

    .... Or as Ryan put it, on the House floor last year, under crony capitalism the "winner is the person with the connections, it is the company with power, and it is the company with clout. The loser is the person who is out there working hard, playing by the rules, not knowing anybody, not going to Washington, and hoping and thinking that the merit of their idea and the quality of their work is what will win the day."

    Thus far, Ryan has stayed mum on the potential for Trump to usher in a new era of those winners and losers. His office declined to comment this week...

    ... At least one cronyism crusader has been raising alarms about Trump all year. Zingales, a University of Chicago business school economist, wrote in February that Trump is "in short, the essence of that commingling of big business and government that goes under the name of crony capitalism."....

    1. Anonymous7:45 AM

      Put Palin in there...

    2. Anonymous8:29 AM


      That is the ONLY reason, oh and he wants to be king of the world of course.

    3. I think there is a more nefarious plan.

      Watch Keith Olbermann's latest The Resistance. I think it's #44 or #4.

      There is apparently a never before used method whereby the Vice President becomes acting president and the president remains just a figurehead.

  18. Anonymous7:24 AM

    "Facebook removed the post and then banned me from the platform for the next 24 hours."

  19. Anonymous7:27 AM

    IRS docs show Bannon paid himself, ‘Clinton Cash’ author and Breitbart from nonprofit fund

    Steve Bannon accepted $376,000 in pay over four years from a tax-exempt charity he set up in Florida to investigate political corruption.

    During that same four-year period, that charity also paid $1.3 million to two other journalists who worked for Breitbart News, which Bannon oversaw as executive chairman, reported the Washington Post.

    The nonprofit organization — which Bannon set up in 2012, when he was Breitbart’s executive editor — also bought $200,000 in advertisements from the conservative news website during the same four-year period, according to IRS filings.

    1. But is it enough to prosecute and remove him from the office of Chief Strategist.

      Remember, Drumpf now has the Atty General in his pocket. He'll own the DOJ soon too.

  20. Anonymous7:28 AM

    Pressure mounting for presidential election recounts in a key 2016 swing state

    1. Anonymous8:18 AM

      Clinton's Popular Vote Lead Widens and NC's Elections Board Lawyers-Up After Bombshell Revelation

    2. Anonymous8:20 AM

      MIT and UC Berkeley election experts call for presidential election audit: There's cause for concern

    3. Anonymous8:29 AM

      I was glad to hear the story last night when it was said that there's a suspicious 7% difference in those states when it comes to the type of voting machine used, suggesting something being wrong with the electronic machines. But then it was a bummer to hear on the news this morning that it was rural areas who used a lot of the electronic machines and so it would appear as though that is the reason for the questionable stats. Dang. I want more info!

    4. Anonymous8:34 AM

      @8:18"Specifically, the Board’s Information Technology Director, accessed the state's database to gather information that he used to fabricate challenges against voters which he sent to the county BOEs. The other Board members at the meeting admitted that they knew about his actions and absolved themselves of any responsibility."

    5. Anonymous9:26 AM

    6. Anonymous9:34 AM

      DETAILS:"There’s still one way that some of this year’s paper ballots could be examined. In many states, candidates can petition for a recount. The candidate needs to pay the cost, which can run into millions of dollars. The deadlines for filing recount petitions are soon — for example, this Friday in Wisconsin (margin 0.7%), Monday in Pennsylvania (margin 1.2%), and the following Wednesday in Michigan (margin 0.3%).
      Examining the physical evidence in these states — even if it finds nothing amiss — will help allay doubt and give voters justified confidence that the results are accurate. It will also set a precedent for routinely examining paper ballots, which will provide an important deterrent against cyberattacks on future elections. Recounting the ballots now can only lead to strengthened electoral integrity, but the window for candidates to act is closing fast."

    7. Jill Stein is trying to raise $2 million to force recount in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. As a candidate she can demand a recount.

      Obama has asked for a smooth transition and the Clinton team is loathe to rock the boat. But Stein has no such compunction. She'll step forward and be the wrench if it serves to remove Drumpf from office.

  21. Anonymous7:40 AM

    As President, Trump Plans To Raise Taxes On 26 Million Low Income Americans

    Not only will 47% of Donald Trump's proposed tax cuts go to the top one percent, but his tax plan will raise taxes on 26 million Americans who are part of 8.5 million low-income families.

    “The Trump tax plan is heavily, heavily, skewed to the most wealthy, who will receive huge savings,” said Lily Batchelder, a law professor and tax expert at New York University. “At the same time, millions of low-income families – particularly single-parent households – will face an increase.”

    Batchelder, who wrote an academic paper on Trump’s tax plan published by the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, said that the president-elect’s plan “significantly raises taxes” for at least 8.5 million families, with “especially large tax increases for working single parents”. More than 26m individuals live in those families.

    Fifty-one percent of single parent households, 32% of black households, and 24% of Hispanic or Latino households will see a tax increase under Trump. Meanwhile, 47% of the cuts in Trump’s tax plan go to the wealthiest one percent.

    The dynamics of Trump’s tax plan have been known for months, but the media chose to pay no attention to issues, so it went largely unreported...

    ...Donald Trump and the Republican Party are planning a massive upward redistribution of the nation’s wealth that will come at the expense of the some of the most economically vulnerable individuals and families in US society.

    1. He'll raise taxes on the very Deplorables that voted for him.

      Think they'll finally learn their lesson?


      There will be some excuse blaming Democrats. Maybe blaming them for Hillary losing?

    2. Anonymous8:12 PM

      The deplorables can always blame Obama.

  22. Chenagrrl7:40 AM

    He knows there's nothing to be found. If the GOP attack dogs didn't get anything, he's likely to end up in a wrangle with the Courts. AND, it would call attention to his own shabby foundation and, of course, the BIG picture. Bigly.

  23. Anonymous7:41 AM


    "It turns out that one of the Trump transition team’s many duties will be helping President-Elect Trump decide just how many nights he’ll have to sleep at the White House each week"

    Don't believe, Google it.

    Why? Think about it why would a billionaire want to become president when he has so much money at stake with his personal businesses worldwide? His personal office is in Trump Tower. He can't be seen with representatives of businesses and banks walking into the White House. Make Trump Greater should have been on his baseball hats.

    1. Anonymous8:25 AM

      Yep. He'll be doing business outside the WH and so much will be kept secret. And whatever he can't have implemented now will be the second he leaves office.

      His lack of an attention span is one reason why I don't see him running for a second term, but I never thought he wanted to be pres for any reason other than to have the title of most powerful man in the free world. So he has no interest in life in the WH. Being there will be about his power trip and photo ops, that's all.

    2. Anonymous9:57 AM

      Make Trump Great Again

      Wasn't he and the Trump empire losing clients and money about 2 months ago? If not earlier.. This position is a cash cow to the whole Trump family. And as a bonus, we get the Trump offspring embedded into our politics for probably years to come.

    3. Keith Olbermann did a piece recently that described exactly how Trump could be president in name only while the Vice President would be acting president. That put's Pence in the White House and Drumpf can stay in his Tower for four years.

      Now that Don the Con knows how hard the job is and how uncomfortable all that negative scrutiny is, why wouldn't he agree?

    4. Anonymous8:14 PM

      Make trump rich again.

  24. Anonymous7:47 AM

    G. watch this!

  25. Anonymous7:47 AM

    Republicans Declare WAR On The Poor, Go After Food Stamps, Medical Coverage

    ...“I’ve been working on these issues since 1972,” Robert Greenstein, the founder and president of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities and Washington’s leading advocate for poor and low-income Americans, said, according to Vox. “This is by far the gravest threat to the safety net, and to low-income people, that I’ve seen in my close to half a century of working on these issues. I think there’s a potential in the first seven months, by the August recess, for Congress to pass policies that do more to increase poverty and hardship and widen inequality than we’ve seen in half a century.”

  26. Anonymous7:49 AM

    Kasich in charge of all domestic and foreign affairs, most powerful vp ever?

    If true, this means that Trump doesn't plan on doing much governing at all.

    Something has to keep him busy for 4 years besides state dinners and photo ops. Hmm what could it be?

    1. Anonymous8:22 AM

      Grabbing pussy.

  27. Anonymous7:49 AM

    Trump’s Plan To Rein In Wall Street? Tax Cuts, No Oversight, Industry Insiders In The White House

    ...He’s giving the banks exactly what they want.

    In fact, he seems to think that he might need them a little closer to him so that he can really serve them well, because he’s actually inviting bank executives to work in his administration — certainly a far cry from his pro-working class messages on the campaign trail. According to Politico, his leading picks for Secretary of the Treasury are a Goldman-Sachs executive and a billionaire investor.

    The working class Republicans that voted for Trump are some of the people who will be most hurt by the actual policies that the Trump administration wants to put into effect. You get what you vote for, Republicans.

    1. "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

  28. Anonymous7:51 AM

    Trump’s Plan To Repeal Obamacare Is Being DENIED By Health Care Professionals (VIDEO)

  29. Anonymous7:55 AM

    Hey...were is my thoughtful comment...?

  30. Anonymous7:55 AM

    Going back on all his campaign promises tells me he was saying whatever will get him elected. Saying whatever could get his rally attendees and deplorables at home watching tv in an uproar. He was also catering to the people who live in dark places like Steve Bannon. It worked. Now it's about business opportunities.

    1. No, but dream on.

      If that were the case he wouldn't be making the appointments he's making.

      He's giving the Nazis what they want by appointing Nazis. Sure, they're not ALL Nazis. But even one is too many.

  31. Anonymous8:00 AM

    What's wrong with President-elect Trump's campaign slogan Make America Great Again?

    Should be shit canned and replaced with


    1. Anonymous8:27 AM

      Yes, Adolf Hitler Really Said He Would 'Make Germany Great Again'

    2. Drumpf said he loved the uneducated.

      Now the uneducated, stupid Deplorables are forcing all of us to repeat the history they never bothered to learn from.

  32. Anonymous8:02 AM

    "since a president does not determine who the Justice Department investigates"

    Ahh, but in the orange anus's fuhrership, it is something that must absolutely be done. Ve must not let sie traditions stant in our vey.

  33. Anonymous8:03 AM

    If I were Hillary, I would be weary nonetheless. It seems flip flopping be the way of the Donald. He did it yesterday, today, and will do tomorrow.

  34. Anonymous8:12 AM

    Trump to scrap Nasa climate research in crackdown on ‘politicized science’

    Nasa’s Earth science division is set to be stripped of funding as the president-elect seeks to shift focus away from home in favor of deep space exploration

  35. Anonymous8:20 AM

    His opponent was dirty. He had act dirty.

  36. Hey Gryphen can you add my new blog to your roll please.

  37. Anonymous8:24 AM


    Trump’s call for waterboarding and more extreme measures is always met with warm applause and cheers at his rallies —


    "McCain warns Trump on torture, waterboarding'

  38. Anonymous8:24 AM

    Dan Rather is sounding the alarm and we would do well to listen and then take action:

    'Now is a time when none of us can afford to remain seated or silent. We must all stand up to be counted.

    HIstory will demand to know which side were you on. This is not a question of politics or party or even policy. This is a question about the very fundamentals of our beautiful experiment in a pluralistic democracy ruled by law.

    When I see neo-Nazis raise their hands in terrifying solute, in public, in our nation's capital, I shudder in horror. When I see that action mildly rebuked by a boilerplate statement from the President-elect whom these bigots have praised, the anger in me grows. And when I see some in a pliant press turn that mild statement into what they call a denunciation I cannot hold back any longer...'

    1. Anonymous8:45 AM

      Exactly. It is disgusting. Trump has not come out and made a real statement and he won't. He'll have to say something in his address at the time of inauguration, but it will be so couched in other wording on other things and not given any emphasis. I couldn't believe it when the story about the neo-Nazis in the DC Italian restaurant came out--and the restaurant did the right thing, including by giving $10,000 to the ADL--and still Trump didn't think he should come forward as a leader and make a real statement.

    2. Anonymous8:46 AM

      The press is a joke. Everyone on TV is speaking with smiles about how Trump is not acting as hard-lined as he did on the trail. They're all acting like it's just wonderful and we're one big happy family now.

  39. Anonymous8:29 AM

    Ya think?

  40. Anonymous8:33 AM


    "Believe me, it works.”

    (Believe me, it works? What experience does Trump have with waterboarding and torturing?)

    MCCAIN AMERICAN POW: “We will not torture people … It doesn’t work.

  41. Anonymous8:43 AM


    Donald Trump went even further in his support of waterboarding and other barred interrogation techniques Wednesday, saying that as president he would use torture in the fight against terrorism.

    “Don’t tell me it doesn’t work — torture works,” Trump said during a campaign event at a retirement community here Wednesday morning. “Half these guys [say]: ‘Torture doesn’t work.’ Believe me, it works.”


    Republican Sen. John McCain issued a fiery warning to President-elect Donald Trump on the subject of torture Saturday.

    “I don’t give a damn what the president of the United States wants to do. We will not waterboard,” McCain told an audience at the annual Halifax International Security Forum. “We will not torture people … It doesn’t work.

  42. Anonymous8:57 AM

    And it makes me sick that Trump is having his rich-ass Thanksgiving time while Native people in North Dakota are fighting for respect for their land and being teargassed and so on. He owns between $500,000 and $1,000,000 of stock in that company that is pushing the pipeline. He isn't bothered at all about what is happening to the most real of Americans in this country. As soon as he's in office, the people trying to protect their land will get rolled right over.

    And I am really pissed off at Obama for not saying anything for so long and trying to do more. I love the pres, but it makes me sick that he hasn't come forward with a Thanksgiving message and said something about what is being done to the Native Americans of North Dakota and about what they are fighting for with all their might, while the rest of us worry about making sure we don't leave anything off our TG shoppong lists.

    1. Anonymous10:58 AM

      I think in the interest of personal safety these protests should be curtailed when it has become obvious that the pipeline is going to happen, the new administration will make sure it happens so it's no longer a cause worth being harmed or killed for, it's a done deal.

    2. Anonymous12:37 PM

      I thought President Obama did or suggested a reroute of the pipeline so that it did not encumber the water rights of our First People in North Dakota? It appears the oil people didn't pay attention to him!

      We need to protect those people. I feel so sorry what white Americans are doing to them and have always done to them. We are a horrible bunch of assholes in America. God awful people as a whole. I'm Cherokee Indian but look white and I can hardly stomach Republican white folks I've known for years!

    3. Anonymous12:43 PM

      Trump needs a portion of the pipeline from North Dakota shoved up his fat butt!

      Or down his throat might be an even better idea! That way we'd never be subjected to his voice again!

      Pray for our native American friends in North Dakota as they are being physically harmed by racist and commercial Americans that think only of themselves and their pocketbooks! They take, take, take no matter the harm done to others!

    4. Anonymous5:55 PM

      Yup, the pilgrims have been kicking our asses since day one. I don't see no end in sight. The whiteman will kill his own grandma for the greenback. That's the way it is and always will be.

  43. Anonymous9:08 AM


    “I like it a lot. I don’t think it’s tough enough.”


    Do you agree anything above a BONE SPUR is too much torture Mr President-elect?

    Didn't BONE SPURS keep you from enrolling with American heroes?

    Donald Trump became eligible for the draft on his 18th birthday (14 June 1964) and registered with the Selective Service System 10 days later. He received the first of four 2-S (college) deferments on 28 July 1964.

    Trump received his second college deferment on 14 December 1965.

    Trump's previous deferment expired and he was reclassified 1-A (available for military service) on 22 November 1966. His 2-S deferment was renewed on 13 December.

    No record.

    Trump received his fourth and final college deferment on 16 January 1968. After graduating from Wharton, he was reclassified 1-A on 9 July 1968. Trump underwent an Armed Forces physical examination (with a result listed only as "DISQ") on 19 September 1968 and was reclassified 1-Y (qualified for service only in time of war or national emergency) on 15 October 1968.

  44. Anonymous9:23 AM

    Hillary your dnc just has to make sure you lost electoral votes. You have to study do forensics on the 3 states. It is way too strange.

    1. Anonymous9:49 AM

      Election Security Expert Explains Why Hillary Clinton Must Challenge Election Results

      The idea that the election may have been tampered with is dangerous to the legitimacy of the electoral process. Fundamentally, raising the question about the security of the process undermines a key institution of our representative democracy.

      Hillary Clinton clearly loves her country. Calling for a full audit or recount of swing state election results wouldn’t be complaining or acting like a sore loser. A full examination of the results would questions to rest, and allow people to believe in the process.

      If there is even a chance that the election was tampered with, Hillary Clinton has a duty to the American people to challenge the results.

  45. Anonymous9:23 AM

    OH NO HE DIDN'T 1.0




    Republican Sen. John McCain issued a fiery warning to President-elect Donald Trump on the subject of torture Saturday.

    “I don’t give a damn what the president of the United States wants to do. We will not waterboard,” McCain told an audience at the annual Halifax International Security Forum. “We will not torture people … It doesn’t work.

  46. Anonymous11:03 AM

    He doesn't give a crap about Hillary Clinton, he just doesn't want to set a precedent of prosecuting people in government, because he has a history of breaking the law himself.

  47. Drumpf has his second token woman. Nicki Haley is Ambassador to the U.N.

    Now he's put a woman in as Secretary of Ed. But of course. Because all teachers are women, right?

    But more than that, she has NO educational experience whatsoever. She's a businesswoman and a YUUUUGE DONOR. That's right. Money. He's paying off some of his players.

    She is school choice which means vouchers will be back if they don't simply privatize it all. And she's flipped on Common Core so that will be out.

    The private sector has finally gotten their hands on that protected tax money set aside for education. The only pot left they haven't been able to get their claws in to is Social Security. That will be next.

    "DeVos played a key role in pushing a 2000 ballot proposal to create a school voucher system for Michigan students. She served as a Republican National Committeewoman in the 1990s, and chaired the Michigan Republican Party from 1994 to 2000 and again from 2003 to 2005. A billionaire powerbroker, DeVos has been a huge donor to and fundraiser for the Republican Party. A 2014 Mother Jones profile on the DeVos family referred to them as “the new Kochs.”"

    "Progressive Michigan executive director Lonnie Scott said the nomination “proves that having a shortage of experience means nothing as long you don’t have a shortage of money.”"

    So that's two token women.

    He can go back to putting old white men on his cabinet.

    1. Anonymous3:40 PM

      DeVos is a teabagger and very bad news.

  48. Here's your Donald Trump electors.

    "Dennis Scranton, one of Montana’s three Electoral College voters, made the explosive comments in a 2010 Facebook rant against same-sex marriage. Scranton wrote:

    “I think fruits are decorative. Hang up where they can be seen and appreciated. Call Wyoming for display instructions.”
    His remarks about Wyoming appear to refer to the brutal murder of gay University of Wyoming student Matthew Shepard, who was tied to a fencepost outside Laramie and tortured in 1998. He later died of his injuries.

    Reached this week by the Billings Gazette, Scranton made no apologies."

    You really think these people are going to switch from voting for their Führer?

  49. Anonymous12:47 PM

    I'd love seeing Trump tortured. He'd holler and give in within seconds of the process beginning.

    Water torture first which he is on record as saying is no big deal - he would use other methods!

    He's a jerk and has zero business leading our country! America is in huge trouble!

  50. Anonymous1:16 PM

    Story highlights
    Trump has changed his tune on prosecuting Hillary Clinton, climate change and torture
    He's also said nice things about The New York Times

  51. Anonymous3:44 PM

    Well isn’t that special! She was hurt enough? Yes, by his defamation of character.

    Interesting how trump turns it around and to give the impression HE is the one “saving” Hillary, like he is doing her a favor. How grandiose of him.

    In reality there wasn’t anything to prosecute her for and it is very disturbing when a “president” uses the DOJ to go after his opponents. In fact it might be an impeachable offense, abusing power.

  52. Anonymous4:23 PM

    Can't wait for day one, when the crushing realities of the job open him a huge new one, he campaigned on empty promises and there's no way to deliver them. Good luck with that, Don.


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