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Saturday, November 12, 2016
First image of our true President Americans since the election.
I predict that well before this first year is up that former Hillary critics will be falling all over themselves to talk about what a wonderful President she would have made, and telling anybody who will listen that they never should have bitched about the e-mail server, or suggested that she was untrustworthy in any way.
No question or disccusion about it. America and others have been hijacked by the bottom of the swamp. Action mandatory and needed immediately....don't be dumb dumbs and numb.
While I am as depressed as anybody I want to Do something. Not just wallow in it. I don't know exactly what, maybe we can help each other out. I did write to my Senators and Congressman and outlined my expectations of them. Beyond that I don't know. I do know that this community came up with 12k in 3 days. If we can do that we can do more good. Gryph, readers, share your ideas. Let's get to work.
Put pressure on the Democratic Party to clean house from the top down and get rid of the chair and cronies and replace them with progressives like Howard Dean, Keith Ellison and Elizabeth Warren.
And the us is the only country on earth to just change what people participated in, voted, took time to mark ballots! People voted Hillary! And some entity can just change it.
And the us is the only country on earth to just change what people participated in, voted, took time to mark ballots! People voted Hillary! And some entity can just change it. ******************** This is the second time this has happened since 2000. Gore won the popular vote, too. What the electoral college does is usurp the will of the majority when they do this. This Trump disaster is going to be worse that the W Bush disaster.
The "big blowout" predicted by so many of you IMers and Gryph... was well a big blowout, just the other way... So now lets all change the election rules lol.
Nope, it was CNN that fucked up and claimed it was a brand new photo. Nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. The ladies are longtime friends and the photo is not new.
On the other hand there's a very popular picture of your first lady naked and grabbing her own pussy. You might like to focus on the date of that one, eh?
Let's see,now Who had to step down from her job as gov out of the shame of ethics violations?? Who lives lies about the births of her kids? And grandkids? Who claims to have a Rill job,who has no proof of filing taxes for any "job"? Who had to have someone else test for her ged? Who's junker baby just turned l? Now Who's a liar,barstool and stain?? HAHAHAHAHAHA! !!!!!!
9:10 You are correct. Sarah's been spreading lies these last 8 yrs due to being a butthurt sore loser that can't never get over the past. *I've ment toddlers with better coping skills. Sarah does Not get the sportsmanship trophy!
I can't believe that that Russian puppet will soon be getting daily NSA briefings - even though the Russians have ADMITTED that they were in frequent or even DAILY contact with his campaign...
Uh, the Secret Service is tasked with protecting Presidents past current and future 6:57. They are not looking into servers. The IQ level around here is not so hot these days.
The FBI would be tasked with finding the Russian servers and investigating Trump's connections to Russia. Do you *really* think they're going to do anything now? Their guy won!
I agree. The way she was treated was just appalling. As a woman in business, I have encountered this kind of double standard all my business life. Joy Behar was right. A man can get away with anything. A woman can get away with nothing.
That's a lovely photo. How much brighter would the world seem this weekend had Hillary Clinton been elected and a Democratic majority restored to the Senate with Democratic growth in the House! By the time that summer comes I think many people who voted for Trump are going to begin to question their new hero. What that portends for the rest of us I don't know but I fear it will not be good. Beaglemom
I first saw this pic at Huff Post. The woman posing with Hillary was so upset at the outcome of the stolen election that she went for a walk in the woods and met Hillary and Bill. She said they hugged and exchanged sweet pleasantries and the President took the picture!! I sadly noticed she was wearing all black.
Yes, they are saying that the picture was posed. That Hillary brought out a photographer into the woods to shoot it! What garbage! She and her husband can't take a walk and meet someone and get a photo without the hateful criticism. It is resentment against women in the biggest way. Men can get away with anything and women get held to an impossible standard.
I predict that the conservatives will use Trump to get what they want then dump him. The next year will be interesting.
I do recall that when Nixon came in in 1968, it took him less than three months to get rid of most of Johnson's "Great Society" programs. They were dropped or integrated/hidden everywhere else to keep them out of the spotlight.
"I do recall that when Nixon came in in 1968, it took him less than three months to get rid of most of Johnson's "Great Society" programs."
What? You better get a dementia check because your recollection is completely wrong. The Great Society is Medicare, Medicaid, the Civil Rights act, the Voting Rights Act. They all exist today. Nixon didn't get rid of them, you dope. During the entire time Nixon was president, Democrats held strong majorities in both the House and Senate. I'm not for a second defending Nixon, I'm appalled at how wrong is your recollection of not so distant history. Nixon was far more moderate than Trump. In fact, Nixon was actually more moderate than Hillary Clinton.
"before this first year is up that former Hillary critics will be falling all over themselves to talk about what a wonderful President she would have made" Much to the chagrine of the Hillary fans, I think what will be talked about is what a wonderful president Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders would have made. The shellacking Clinton took is going to go down in history as a cautionary tale of how not to run for president.
I have no doubt Joe Biden would have won handily. He is well liked. Middle of the road republicans, and more importantly, the rust belt, trusts him and would have voted for him.
Despite all the misinformation flooding American's Internet by PAID Russian instigators, she won. Despite Russian hackers stealing Democratic committee emails and sending them to Wikileaks with NOTHING ILLEGAL just to make her look bad, she won. Despite an entire congressional committee searching for something incriminating on her for months and months, dragging her to hearings just to create negative publicity, she won. Despite rampant and overt voter intimidation, she won. Despite illegal FBI interference, she won. Despite many illegal voter ID laws that were not overturned in time, she won. Despite trumped up witchhunts devised by the ENTIRE Republican party (Bengazi) for the sole purpose of discrediting her, she won. Despite a ridiculous sexist double standard applied to her by the media, she won. Despite radically disproportionate media coverage in Trumps favor, she won Despite voting precincts in Dem districts with conveniently "broken" machines and some with only ONE machine, she won Despite men showing they are still afraid of women's rule, she won. The majority of the nation waded through all that illegal Republican activity, lies and interference and still voted for her over him. So many more states voted for her over him and they were not given the chance to be heard. Now she won and he is President elect and people want us to swallow this without resistance? I will not.
She did not win. She has accepted the fact she did not win. I hope that in time you too will be able reconcile yourself to that truth.
People like the Daily Kos'ers who are blaming the loss on everybody but the DNC and Clinton herself are deluding yourselves about what really failed. She lost because she failed to persuade enough rural voters that she would make their lives better than Donald Trump would. It's a sad, sad thing, but that's the truth.
She won the popular vote. In any country ,except this, she won. The person with the most votes wins. In Any third world banana republic the person with the most votes wins.She lost the electoral college an arcaic outdated institutiion.This country is 18th in IQ in developed nations. Normal IQ starts at 100. Our mean IQ is 98.They were the ones voting on Tuesday.
9:30 if the positions were switched and she won the electoral but not the popular vote... your comments would be 180 degress from what you are writing and you know it. Grow up.
No I would still feel the same way.The person who won the most votes wins. Don't even presume to tell me to tell me how I feel.
In 2012 when Obama won both the popular And electoral college tRump was tweeting how the Obama lost the electoral college (which he didn't, another lie) and how people should rise up against it.
tRump just announced that he is only going to live in The White House when Congress is in session.Look it up you might learn something.
I think we should only count the popular vote. However, that being said, we have to work more to make voting safe, easy and to assure that the vote counts are tallied correctly. In addition there should have to be some kind of voters' receipt so it can be referred to if there are any shenanigans being investigated. My vote no. was 206. I wish I had a receipt showing that and that I could go online and check that my absentee ballot was counted. Beaglemom
Again the media perpetuated the “she is untrustworthy” myth among other things. How many times did they ask the lead in question: the majority thinks she is untrustworthy, who in the hell was this majority?
Not once did they ask why do you think this and when they did no one could answer.
They attacked her relentlessly and she still managed to conduct herself with dignity and graciousness.
I wish the best for Bill and Hillary, our country did very well under Bill’s administration and I wish we could have had a repeat with Hillary.
My suggestion to both of them is when Traitor Trump calls for advice, sent it to voice mail.
Exactly! Dude tell us what exactly she did that was untrustworty?? Bengazi?? They found Nothing! Emails? They found Nothing! For 25 years they have accused her and EVERY FUCKING TIME they found Nothing.You're a moron.
After the attack on Pearl Harbor the Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto said"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve".Looking at the protests in LA I think this is a fitting statement. In NYC they are once again marching towards tRump tower chanting "Can't build a wall! Hands are too small".
This is such a falsehood! They most certainly did not find nothing with the emails. The FBI concluded her handling of classified information was "extremely careless". She herself admitted it was a mistake. Look, the reason the Clintons get investigated over and over is they repeatedly walk up to the line between legal and illegal. It's a proven fact HRC sought to avoid having her SoS emails fall under government record keeping and FOIA rules. The emails from Powell suggesting how to avoid the rules prove it. Lie to yourself, but don't try to fool me.
Anon at 11:16 am. Trump should remove his name from his buildings quickly. They were eyesores before and they are even more so now. We were in Chicago recently and if you were anywhere in the vicinity of the Trump building you saw his name, not up at the top but midsection so you couldn't miss it. It made it hard to take photos - trying to avoid his name. Beaglemom
Yes, it's a lovely photo. But did the woman who posted it mis-represent the circumstances? Don't you want to know the truth? Doesn't it bother you that this woman may have sought to deceive you? Even worse, why didn't the media vet the picture? Aren't you fucking sick of people lying to us on the news, in social media and having it go so viral that it's just accepted as true and becomes unchallengeable? All they've succeeded in doing is provide fodder for the view that the Clintons are dishonest.
The old saying is "believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see". In the day of the internet, I think we have to revise that to "believe none of what you hear and one tenth of what you see". Sad.
I also wish the best for Bill and Hillary Clinton and hope they fade off into the sunset of American history and stay there.
No question or disccusion about it. America and others have been hijacked by the bottom of the swamp. Action mandatory and needed immediately....don't be dumb dumbs and numb.
ReplyDeleteWhile I am as depressed as anybody I want to Do something. Not just wallow in it. I don't know exactly what, maybe we can help each other out. I did write to my Senators and Congressman and outlined my expectations of them. Beyond that I don't know. I do know that this community came up with 12k in 3 days. If we can do that we can do more good. Gryph, readers, share your ideas. Let's get to work.
ReplyDeletePut pressure on the Democratic Party to clean house from the top down and get rid of the chair and cronies and replace them with progressives like Howard Dean, Keith Ellison and Elizabeth Warren.
DeleteThe electoral college has to go. The people chose Hillary.
ReplyDeleteAlso, non of the living former presidents, nor the present president endorsed or voted for Trump, not a single one. That says a lot.
And the us is the only country on earth to just change what people participated in, voted, took time to mark ballots! People voted Hillary! And some entity can just change it.
Delete@Anonymous 5:03 AM
DeleteAnd the us is the only country on earth to just change what people participated in, voted, took time to mark ballots! People voted Hillary! And some entity can just change it.
********************
This is the second time this has happened since 2000. Gore won the popular vote, too. What the electoral college does is usurp the will of the majority when they do this.
This Trump disaster is going to be worse that the W Bush disaster.
Hahaha.
DeleteThe "big blowout" predicted by so many of you IMers and Gryph... was well a big blowout, just the other way... So now lets all change the election rules lol.
The election was like batman versus the joker. I think the joker will do himself in,in the end. Karma Always wins .
DeleteWord is the picture was staged and Hillary knew the woman.
ReplyDeletehttps://i.sli.mg/FhDQfK.png
"...she was untrustworthy in any way."
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
GFY Palin troll. BTW what job will Trump offer the unqualified Tundra turd? How about Ambassador to Siberia?
DeleteMaybe someday Trump will take a walk in the woods and someone will pose for a photo with him???
DeleteBeaglemom
Deletetwitter from mentally unstable Donald J. Trump Sept. 30 2016
"...check out sex tape..."
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/781788223055994880?lang=en
Mentally unstable Donald J. Trump said
DeleteI could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters.
http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-fifth-avenue-comment/
Trusting a pussy-grabber is not logical.
Delete@Anonymous 3:51 AM
DeleteBristol/Sarah, why do you keep coming on her with your B.S?
Nope, it was CNN that fucked up and claimed it was a brand new photo. Nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. The ladies are longtime friends and the photo is not new.
DeleteOn the other hand there's a very popular picture of your first lady naked and grabbing her own pussy. You might like to focus on the date of that one, eh?
Who cares if the photo was posed, Hillary is still under secret service protection, they are not going to let just anyone walk up to her.
DeleteShe needs to be protected from haters like you.
Hahahahahaa.
DeleteEven in losing she cannot stop lying!
If you're living vibrantly, how can you possibly lose precious time trolling this blog?
DeleteLet's see,now Who had to step down from her job as gov out of the shame of ethics violations?? Who lives lies about the births of her kids? And grandkids? Who claims to have a Rill job,who has no proof of filing taxes for any "job"? Who had to have someone else test for her ged? Who's junker baby just turned l? Now Who's a liar,barstool and stain?? HAHAHAHAHAHA! !!!!!!
Delete9:10 You are correct. Sarah's been spreading lies these last 8 yrs due to being a butthurt sore loser that can't never get over the past. *I've ment toddlers with better coping skills. Sarah does Not get the sportsmanship trophy!
DeleteI can't believe that that Russian puppet will soon be getting daily NSA briefings - even though the Russians have ADMITTED that they were in frequent or even DAILY contact with his campaign...
ReplyDeleteI can't wait until the secret service finds all the trump servers connected to russia. Another cover up.
DeleteUh, the Secret Service is tasked with protecting Presidents past current and future 6:57. They are not looking into servers. The IQ level around here is not so hot these days.
Delete6:57
DeleteThe FBI would be tasked with finding the Russian servers and investigating Trump's connections to Russia. Do you *really* think they're going to do anything now? Their guy won!
A@ 9:27, the FBI does not have access like the secret service, besides I was being sarcastic, so much for your low IQ
DeleteI agree. The way she was treated was just appalling. As a woman in business, I have encountered this kind of double standard all my business life. Joy Behar was right. A man can get away with anything. A woman can get away with nothing.
ReplyDeleteI voted for this wonderful lady and I think many Americans are going to rue the day that Trump was elected to the position.
ReplyDeleteShe is just a better person and extremely well qualified. I wish her and Bill well and much happiness.
They're proud of voting trump until ya point out they voted for someone who represents their same values.
DeleteThank you very much for posting this Gryphen. This is a powerful picture.
ReplyDeleteWhen a woman can tell a campaign rally "I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue", then she might have a chance to be President.
ReplyDeleteThat's a lovely photo. How much brighter would the world seem this weekend had Hillary Clinton been elected and a Democratic majority restored to the Senate with Democratic growth in the House! By the time that summer comes I think many people who voted for Trump are going to begin to question their new hero. What that portends for the rest of us I don't know but I fear it will not be good.
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
I first saw this pic at Huff Post. The woman posing with Hillary was so upset at the outcome of the stolen election that she went for a walk in the woods and met Hillary and Bill. She said they hugged and exchanged sweet pleasantries and the President took the picture!! I sadly noticed she was wearing all black.
DeleteYes, they are saying that the picture was posed. That Hillary brought out a photographer into the woods to shoot it! What garbage! She and her husband can't take a walk and meet someone and get a photo without the hateful criticism.
ReplyDeleteIt is resentment against women in the biggest way. Men can get away with anything and women get held to an impossible standard.
I predict that the conservatives will use Trump to get what they want then dump him. The next year will be interesting.
I do recall that when Nixon came in in 1968, it took him less than three months to get rid of most of Johnson's "Great Society" programs. They were dropped or integrated/hidden everywhere else to keep them out of the spotlight.
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"I do recall that when Nixon came in in 1968, it took him less than three months to get rid of most of Johnson's "Great Society" programs."
DeleteWhat? You better get a dementia check because your recollection is completely wrong. The Great Society is Medicare, Medicaid, the Civil Rights act, the Voting Rights Act. They all exist today. Nixon didn't get rid of them, you dope. During the entire time Nixon was president, Democrats held strong majorities in both the House and Senate. I'm not for a second defending Nixon, I'm appalled at how wrong is your recollection of not so distant history. Nixon was far more moderate than Trump. In fact, Nixon was actually more moderate than Hillary Clinton.
"before this first year is up that former Hillary critics will be falling all over themselves to talk about what a wonderful President she would have made"
DeleteMuch to the chagrine of the Hillary fans, I think what will be talked about is what a wonderful president Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders would have made. The shellacking Clinton took is going to go down in history as a cautionary tale of how not to run for president.
I have no doubt Joe Biden would have won handily. He is well liked. Middle of the road republicans, and more importantly, the rust belt, trusts him and would have voted for him.
DeleteShe won
ReplyDeleteDespite all the misinformation flooding American's Internet by PAID Russian instigators, she won. Despite Russian hackers stealing Democratic committee emails and sending them to Wikileaks with NOTHING ILLEGAL just to make her look bad, she won. Despite an entire congressional committee searching for something incriminating on her for months and months, dragging her to hearings just to create negative publicity, she won. Despite rampant and overt voter intimidation, she won. Despite illegal FBI interference, she won. Despite many illegal voter ID laws that were not overturned in time, she won. Despite trumped up witchhunts devised by the ENTIRE Republican party (Bengazi) for the sole purpose of discrediting her, she won. Despite a ridiculous sexist double standard applied to her by the media, she won. Despite radically disproportionate media coverage in Trumps favor, she won Despite voting precincts in Dem districts with conveniently "broken" machines and some with only ONE machine, she won Despite men showing they are still afraid of women's rule, she won. The majority of the nation waded through all that illegal Republican activity, lies and interference and still voted for her over him. So many more states voted for her over him and they were not given the chance to be heard. Now she won and he is President elect and people want us to swallow this without resistance? I will not.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/11/12/1597500/-She-won
She did not win. She has accepted the fact she did not win. I hope that in time you too will be able reconcile yourself to that truth.
DeletePeople like the Daily Kos'ers who are blaming the loss on everybody but the DNC and Clinton herself are deluding yourselves about what really failed. She lost because she failed to persuade enough rural voters that she would make their lives better than Donald Trump would. It's a sad, sad thing, but that's the truth.
She won the popular vote. In any country ,except this, she won. The person with the most votes wins. In Any third world banana republic the person with the most votes wins.She lost the electoral college an arcaic outdated institutiion.This country is 18th in IQ in developed nations. Normal IQ starts at 100. Our mean IQ is 98.They were the ones voting on Tuesday.
Delete9:30 if the positions were switched and she won the electoral but not the popular vote... your comments would be 180 degress from what you are writing and you know it. Grow up.
DeleteNo I would still feel the same way.The person who won the most votes wins. Don't even presume to tell me to tell me how I feel.
DeleteIn 2012 when Obama won both the popular And electoral college tRump was tweeting how the Obama lost the electoral college (which he didn't, another lie) and how people should rise up against it.
tRump just announced that he is only going to live in The White House when Congress is in session.Look it up you might learn something.
I think we should only count the popular vote. However, that being said, we have to work more to make voting safe, easy and to assure that the vote counts are tallied correctly. In addition there should have to be some kind of voters' receipt so it can be referred to if there are any shenanigans being investigated. My vote no. was 206. I wish I had a receipt showing that and that I could go online and check that my absentee ballot was counted.
DeleteBeaglemom
I'll tell you all about yourself 1:25, you are a snotnosed little pissant that doesn't understand the simplest of government processes.
DeleteTrump won. He totally won the presidential election. He won, the people elected him.
And no, if it had been the other way around you would be praising the electoral system up and down you lying little liberal.
In the words of the Dumpster,"the polls were rigged!" Same argument on Both sides...one valid,one not??
DeleteAgain the media perpetuated the “she is untrustworthy” myth among other things. How many times did they ask the lead in question: the majority thinks she is untrustworthy, who in the hell was this majority?
ReplyDeleteNot once did they ask why do you think this and when they did no one could answer.
They attacked her relentlessly and she still managed to conduct herself with dignity and graciousness.
I wish the best for Bill and Hillary, our country did very well under Bill’s administration and I wish we could have had a repeat with Hillary.
My suggestion to both of them is when Traitor Trump calls for advice, sent it to voice mail.
Wow, you're STILL saying she is trustworthy. After loads of evidence to the contrary. WOW.
ReplyDeleteThis isn't a Trump defense post. It's a "open your fucking eyes and ears dude" post.
Exactly! Dude tell us what exactly she did that was untrustworty?? Bengazi?? They found Nothing! Emails? They found Nothing! For 25 years they have accused her and EVERY FUCKING TIME they found Nothing.You're a moron.
DeleteWOW!!Tune in and see the the HUGE protest in LA.Unbelievable.
DeleteAfter the attack on Pearl Harbor the Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto said"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve".Looking at the protests in LA I think this is a fitting statement. In NYC they are once again marching towards tRump tower chanting "Can't build a wall! Hands are too small".
Delete"They found Nothing! "
DeleteThis is such a falsehood! They most certainly did not find nothing with the emails. The FBI concluded her handling of classified information was "extremely careless". She herself admitted it was a mistake. Look, the reason the Clintons get investigated over and over is they repeatedly walk up to the line between legal and illegal. It's a proven fact HRC sought to avoid having her SoS emails fall under government record keeping and FOIA rules. The emails from Powell suggesting how to avoid the rules prove it. Lie to yourself, but don't try to fool me.
Nothing Illegal. she made mistakes but she did the same thing every other SOS did. But because she is who she is they tried to prosecute her.
DeleteAnon at 11:16 am. Trump should remove his name from his buildings quickly. They were eyesores before and they are even more so now. We were in Chicago recently and if you were anywhere in the vicinity of the Trump building you saw his name, not up at the top but midsection so you couldn't miss it. It made it hard to take photos - trying to avoid his name.
DeleteBeaglemom
Trump buildings are perfect targets for terrorists.
Deleteof course all her supporters will say she wouldve beena good president. why wouldn't they.
ReplyDeleteYes, it's a lovely photo. But did the woman who posted it mis-represent the circumstances? Don't you want to know the truth? Doesn't it bother you that this woman may have sought to deceive you? Even worse, why didn't the media vet the picture? Aren't you fucking sick of people lying to us on the news, in social media and having it go so viral that it's just accepted as true and becomes unchallengeable? All they've succeeded in doing is provide fodder for the view that the Clintons are dishonest.
ReplyDeleteThe old saying is "believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see". In the day of the internet, I think we have to revise that to "believe none of what you hear and one tenth of what you see". Sad.
I also wish the best for Bill and Hillary Clinton and hope they fade off into the sunset of American history and stay there.
It was established long ago that CNN put it on the internet as a new picture.
DeleteThey probably don't have anything else to do because email.
You can write Hillary and Thank her at
ReplyDeleteHillary Clinton
Post Office Box 5256
New York,Ny 10185-5256