Wednesday, November 09, 2016

I think the best way to end today is with the great Stephen Colbert.

Yeah I think that made me feel a little bit better.

No it certainly did not take the hurt away, but it helped.

It helped.

Every little bit....it helps.

67 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:53 PM

    Hey, Hey, Donald J.
    How many pussies did you grab today?

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    1. Dullard is going to find that every day of his presidency he is the target of every political cartoonist and late night comedian. For four fucking years. And it's going to be brutal.

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  2. Anonymous5:03 PM

    right now liberals are saying worse things about trump and his supporters than trump has ever said about anyone.

    Though he knew liberals are classless assholes just in their frequent slander of a female politicians innocent kids and random family members.

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    1. Anonymous5:05 PM

      I thought trolls were banned tonight.

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    2. Anonymous5:08 PM

      Seems to me that female "politician's" kids are far from innocent. All you have to do is look at their "track" record.

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    3. Anonymous5:10 PM

      5:03 It's not possible to say worse things than Trump has, does and will do.

      And are you suggesting Trump knows about IM? LOL, what an honor.

      Maybe you could think about taking a break? Even just for a couple of days. You must be so so so tired.

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    4. Anonymous5:34 PM

      It looks like Gryphen let Alicia through.

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    5. 5:03 is a moronic meme that has surfaced on Facebook. Treat it with the scorn it deserves.

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    6. Anonymous7:18 PM

      Fuck you.

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    7. kathy in KY5:31 AM

      way to go anonymous! You've got so much more class than those awful liberals.

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    8. Anonymous2:59 PM

      Just wait til he bites the hand that gave him the presidency.

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  3. Anonymous5:15 PM

    Bernie predicted the outcome in August of 2015:
    "Let me be very clear. In my view, Democrats will not retain the White House, will not regain the Senate, will not gain the House and will not be successful in dozens of governor’s races unless we run a campaign which generates excitement and momentum and which produces a huge voter turnout.
    We need a political movement which is prepared to take on the billionaire class and create a government which represents all Americans, and not just corporate America and wealthy campaign donors.
    In other words, we need a movement which takes on the economic and political establishment, not one which is part of it."
    The DNC fucked this country.
    Lowest Democratic turnout in 20 years.
    Fucked Bernie.
    Couldn't beat Trump?!
    Bill tried to cheer up Hillary this morning by reminding her that Nelson Mandela wasn't elected president until after he had served 27 years in prison.

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    1. Anonymous5:22 PM

      Disregarding your prison comment, valid point!

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    2. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-democratic-party-deserves-to-die_us_58236ad5e4b0aac62488cde5?section=us_politics

      "The slow drift in the Democratic Party was long in the making. It’s been many years since the Democratic Party decided to throw their lot in with the shiny world of corporate professionals, Wall Street financiers, and Silicon Valley gurus. We accepted the decline of unions as inevitable (it wasn’t), didn’t bother even trying to come up with an alternative source of worker power and embraced the new politics of money even as we talked out the other side of our mouths about oh how terrible all this flood of cash in politics is. If you just send in one more donation we’ll be able to get the money out! There was an incredibly revealing moment at the DNC. In an effort to rev up the crowd one of the speakers called out: “Who in this room works with their hands?” Silence. It was a lot more than one candidate who led us to this place."

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-moore-morning-after-to-do-list_us_5823ab47e4b0aac62489134f

      "Morning After To-Do List:

      1. Take over the Democratic Party and return it to the people. They have failed us miserably.

      2. Fire all pundits, predictors, pollsters and anyone else in the media who had a narrative they wouldn’t let go of and refused to listen to or acknowledge what was really going on. Those same bloviators will now tell us we must “heal the divide” and “come together.” They will pull more hooey like that out of their ass in the days to come. Turn them off.

      3. Any Democratic member of Congress who didn’t wake up this morning ready to fight, resist and obstruct in the way Republicans did against President Obama every day for eight full years must step out of the way and let those of us who know the score lead the way in stopping the meanness and the madness that’s about to begin.

      4. Everyone must stop saying they are “stunned” and “shocked.” What you mean to say is that you were in a bubble and weren’t paying attention to your fellow Americans and their despair. YEARS of being neglected by both parties, the anger and the need for revenge against the system only grew. Along came a TV star they liked whose plan was to destroy both parties and tell them all “You’re fired!” Trump’s victory is no surprise. He was never a joke. Treating him as one only strengthened him. He is both a creature and a creation of the media and the media will never own that.

      5. You must say this sentence to everyone you meet today: “HILLARY CLINTON WON THE POPULAR VOTE!” The MAJORITY of our fellow Americans preferred Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. Period. Fact. If you woke up this morning thinking you live in an effed-up country, you don’t. The majority of your fellow Americans wanted Hillary, not Trump. The only reason he’s president is because of an arcane, insane 18th-century idea called the Electoral College. Until we change that, we’ll continue to have presidents we didn’t elect and didn’t want. You live in a country where a majority of its citizens have said they believe there’s climate change, they believe women should be paid the same as men, they want a debt-free college education, they don’t want us invading countries, they want a raise in the minimum wage and they want a single-payer true universal health care system. None of that has changed. We live in a country where the majority agree with the “liberal” position. We just lack the liberal leadership to make that happen (see: #1 above)."

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  4. Anonymous5:20 PM

    Gryphen, look at it this way. The odds are that Trump and the establishment Republicans are really going to screw this up. Perhaps the country will then give the Dems a chance to fix it and make some real progress again.

    Once I saw that Hillary would have a congress that would do nothing but harass and block her at every turn, I was almost glad that she had lost. And this way, Trump will have his hands full trying to do a job that he is in no way qualified to do, so I doubt that he will have time for the Fox Rival Revenge show that he had planned. In fact, I'll bet the last thing he wants is another conservative network, because he made a LOT of campaign promises that he is simply not going to be able to follow through with, so he will not be giving the far right yet another network to harass him with. He only wanted to do it because he's the world's biggest sore loser.Oh, and because he wanted the money of course.

    I just wonder how long it will be before the people who elected Trump start noticing that they got conned?

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    1. Anonymous5:44 PM

      Trump will have 2-3 nominees for the Supreme Court. That means decades of a conservative majority on the court.

      We will lose Roe V. Wade.

      Are you "almost glad" about that?

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    2. Anonymous6:15 PM

      The people of color who voted will know just by their color they are the same as illegals they thought were good to get deported, yep it will be their skin color. They think they will be exempted from abuses? Ha!

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    3. Anonymous6:30 PM

      5:44pm

      They'll also overturn gay marriage.

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    4. Anonymous7:22 PM

      AND there are all the things that everyday, mainstream and even somewhat conservative Americans not of the upper middle class will be dealing with:
      Paying for their kids college tuition as we lose grants and loans.
      Universities closing as we see international student tuition dry up.
      Paying for health insurance with none of the safeguards (pre-existing conditions, preventive care, kids on insurance through college)
      Illnesses caused by T.Rumps environmental policies
      More fear as he jails and sues reporters.

      Not the time to make nice, I think.

      Colbert got this one wrong. ReTHUGs fear democrats will take away their guns. Democrats fear ReTHUgs will kill them. One is fatal, the other is a whiny brat.

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    5. Anonymous7:40 PM

      7:22 you have no idea about conservatives in that little ignorant head of yours and your generalizations.

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    6. Anonymous8:22 PM

      People forget that there are more than a few types of conservatives.

      The "country club" conservatives, upper middle class, mostly college educated and fiscally, though not always socially conservative. Usually attend church merely for the optics.

      Then there are the "they took our jobs" conservatives blue collar or unemployed, struggling because they lack education but always blaming someone besides themselves.

      The third largest group are the evangelicals and they are just plain old brainwashed hypocrites that are all over the economic map but only care about god and fetuses, and as this election proved will get in bed with satan himself if it serves their end.

      These factions of the GOP do not even get along with each other but they need each other for votes.

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    7. Anonymous8:35 PM

      I'm 63. I don't think I will live to see America again. The Rethugs will change everything, and the poor and the old and the challenged are screwed. I would say that I told ya so, but it doesn't matter anymore. It's over.

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    8. Anonymous8:39 PM

      Anonymous7:40 PM,

      I kow a lot about conservatives and their ignorance and hypocrisy. I am surrounded by them where I live and work.

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  5. Anonymous5:48 PM

    where did it go?

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    1. Anonymous3:11 PM

      My conservative friend who voted for Dumpster got all bent when I pointed out his dark skinned philipino wife would be referred to as Mrs.Housekeeping.

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  6. Anonymous5:54 PM

    I tried to tell you, G, I appreciate the life line you have offered me today. Feeling so sad. But, I will not give up. I will fight for another day. My granddaughter will have an opportunity because of the accomplishments of Obama, Clinton. We will fight again tomorrow. Just a nap, and back to the field. Thanks G..mermaid michele

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  7. Anonymous6:12 PM

    Well there is an argument that electorals could chg their votes. Also, if our votes are secret then electorals votes should be secret too. So no one will be targeted!!!!!!!!

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    1. Anonymous6:30 PM

      Huh? Electorals don't change votes.
      The election is over.

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    2. Anonymous7:23 PM

      Yes, they can, they are called faithless electors and it's a $1000 fine. One guy in Oregon who was a Hillary elector promised he would do so,

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    3. Anonymous8:16 PM

      They don't even cast their votes until December 19, then we'll know for sure.

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    4. Even if 10 electors changed their votes (which isn't going to happen) that only reduces Dullard Drumpf to 269.

      It then goes to the House to choose a president. A REPUBLICAN House.

      Who do you think they're going to choose?

      The Senate gets to choose the VP. A REPUBLICAN Senate. Who do you think they're going to choose.

      Either way you look at it, Mike Pence is going to be calling the shots.

      What we needed was Florida and Pennsylvania.

      Where were the Democratic voters? They didn't bother to vote, for whatever reason. Doesn't matter now.

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  8. Anonymous6:28 PM

    GM waited until the day after the election to lay off 2000 workers in Michigan and Ohio, wonder how many of those voted for Trump?

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/09/news/companies/gm-layoffs/

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    1. And to the red neck low information stupid voters that voted for Orange Hitler just got canned I give the finger and scream TOLD YOU SO!

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  9. Anonymous6:28 PM

    No, Gretchen. It didn't help. This pain is going to last. He is not my president, and the people who elected him are not my country.

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    1. Anonymous8:15 PM

      It's tough, and it's exactly how the other half of the country felt for the last 8 years, now it's our turn.

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    2. Anonymous9:05 PM

      @Anonymous 8:15 PM

      It's tough, and it's exactly how the other half of the country felt for the last 8 years, now it's our turn.
      ************************
      President Obama was treated badly because of his race and you and everybody else know this.

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    3. Anonymous9:11 PM

      Except we elected a smart, capable and even-tempered guy. They elected an unfit, ill-tempered creep.

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    4. Anonymous5:51 AM

      President Obama has been an outstanding POTUS and there is zero way in which a President Donald Trump compares or measures up to him.

      President Obama has been even and steady in spite of the major Republican obstruction against him throughout the years.

      Donald Trump is going to have obstruction and he'll counter with harm to Americans. Just watch! The military will be brought out and deaths and harm are going to counter any demonstrations.

      Trump has already said he would shut down our media. We are in for huge trouble and I sincerely hope Americans are prepared or preparing for it.

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    5. 8:15

      Except Barack Obama didn't screw that other half. He worked just as hard to improve their lives as the rest of the country. Perhaps even more so.

      The difference is that now we have an asshole who is going to spend his first 100 days in office punishing everyone he feels insulted or slighted him in any way. Because he is all about revenge.

      They have elected President Petty Stubbyfingers.

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  10. Anonymous6:29 PM

    Sorry, spellchecker changed it. Supposed to be"Gryphen"

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    1. Anonymous7:23 PM

      Either way, I agree with you.

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  11. Dinty6:59 PM

    Um, there's this, but think twice Ms Palin before you accept, there are alot of people who have been silent because you have had no power since you resigned who will open their mouths:

    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/09/sarah_palin_being_considered_for_i_can_t_even_finish_this_sentence.html

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    1. So what if they do?

      It's not an elected office and President Petty Stubbyfingers won't give a shit.

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  12. Anonymous7:21 PM

    Gross melaonahead is going to visit white or goldenwhorehouse as well. Ick probably decide where to put her pucie grabbing poster, just eww.

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    1. Anonymous8:56 PM

      She will be visualizing where she can do her next porn shoot - this time in the White Whorehouse! That one will be a bullseye in terms of $$$!

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  13. Anonymous8:29 PM

    I have been listening to the interviewers and hosts at MSNBC and I can't help but wonder, why weren't these specifics about our President-elect mentioned over the past 2-3 months? I would submit to you that they were negligent in their duties.

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    1. Anonymous5:46 AM

      MSNBC, CNN and FOX were the worst at building up The Donald! And, now that he has been elected and people are objecting and protesting the media is trying to make him appear normal and good for our country!

      Americans do not support his election and know that we are in for mass trouble with Trump and his administration. Idiots in our country elected him!

      We are going to be at civil war - fighting each other! Just watch. Trump will be out w/military apparatus fighting Americans and peaceful protests once he takes office. Plus, he's going to shut down the media and the only thing Americans will read is what a wonderful man and leader he is. We'll have Hitler II on our hands folks and we did it to ourselves! Fucking amazing!

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  14. Anonymous9:09 PM

    At this link there's a pic of Trump's head that shows how he's missing hair in the back. You can see that his hair doesn't grow down low enough toward his neck and he has to keep the hair long where it does grow and cover up quite a bit of skin. A few weeks ago I posted a link to a pic of father Fred because he had a giant swirl of hair at the back of his head. There's something genetic there. I bet Eric and Don Jr. will never cut the back of their hair short either.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3920228/Donald-s-rarely-seen-mini-Barron-10-takes-center-stage-newly-elected-father-barely-eyes-open.html

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    1. I thought baldness was passed down through the Mother?

      My brother is bald like my Mother's Dad.

      My sister's sons are developing baldness just like their Mother's Grandfather.

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  15. Bad old days coming, but we've been through worse.

    God grant that this leader do less harm than he could imagine.

    Pax et bonum

    NB Yeah people can laugh and be scared at the same time. My husband was most afraid and laughing hysterically in Vietnam when his men were being shelled by US artillery because his radioman had given the wrong coordinates for their position.

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  16. This is why Trump won:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/colin-kaepernick-didnt-vote_us_5823a553e4b0e80b02ceb707

    And others like him. Stupid people on both sides.

    It's started already.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/muslim-student-attacked-university-of-louisiana-lafayette_us_58227f5fe4b0d9ce6fbfc2b1

    "Police are investigating reports that a student wearing a hijab at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette was hit with a metal object and robbed while walking to class on Wednesday morning.

    One of her attackers was wearing a white hat that read “TRUMP,” a University of Louisiana Police Department notice sent to students and obtained by The Huffington Post states.

    The student told police that she was on her way to class when a dark sedan approached her and two white men wearing sweatpants left the car, according to the notice.

    She said the suspects struck her with “something metal,” causing her to fall to the ground. They hit her again while she was on the ground and “made obscene comments” at her, the alert states."

    No, I don't think this was a simple mugging. I think angry white racist Trump supporters are riding around looking for targets.

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  17. Anonymous11:23 PM

    The election was rigged by the riggers. We were warned that they could and would do it. Now we must prove it. The electronic voting machines and hacking on that day. The early ballots. It is obvious that something happened and it was not a fair and legit election. Find the hack and get America back.

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    1. It won't matter.

      Just like Gore and Florida. Just like Kerry.

      You don't need an investigation. The FBI and Comey eleven days before an election?

      All they needed to do was swing some undecided and get some unenthusiastic Democrats to sit this one out.

      They succeeded.

      As for the rust belt, Michael Moore predicted that way back in July and it played out exactly as he explained. The DNC leadership doesn't listen to anyone; they think they know it all.

      Time to clean out the Democratic Party leadership and give the Party back to the people.

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  18. Anonymous11:24 PM

    Remember. They are self admitted liars, cheats, criminals and thugs. They stole the usa presidency. And we watched.

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  19. Anonymous11:27 PM

    Trump will start fights with everyone in the build on first day of his lying rigged fiasco.

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  20. Gryph: You may want to tone down your attacks on Sarah Palin and her family.

    After all, she soon will be a member of President Trump's cabinet and she'll have Secret Service protection.

    Maybe Dumbkota and Barstool will be appointed Deputy Assistant Secretaries of whatever . . . the whole family will move to DC . . .

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    1. Anonymous5:37 AM

      Trump isn't going to appoint Sarah Palin to his Administration. Where is everyone getting that idea? I think she'd be the last one he'd select as Trump has been around her - his family didn't like her or respect her - and they know she isn't bright!

      Plus, the Alaskan majority voted for Hillary Clinton for POTUS which is also wonderful news we got yesterday. It was initially said that Donald Trump won the State!

      Wrong! Donald Trump lost the State of Alaska! Lisa Murkowski and Don Young must be shitting bricks!

      Alaska is turning blue! Yea!

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    2. Boy, SarahPac is going to rake in the money now. Just in time too.

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  21. Anonymous11:53 PM

    Klein said his source then asked further about President Barack Obama.

    "She said: 'Well, she felt, Hillary felt, that the president could have stopped Comey a long time ago, because that's what [former President] Bill [Clinton] said."

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  22. Anonymous12:24 AM

    Michael Moore’s 5-Point Morning After To-Do List:
    1. Take over the Democratic Party and return it to the people. They have failed us miserably.
    2. Fire all pundits, predictors, pollsters and anyone else in the media who had a narrative they wouldn't let go of and refused to listen to or acknowledge what was really going on. Those same bloviators will now tell us we must "heal the divide" and "come together." They will pull more hooey like that out of their ass in the days to come. Turn them off.
    3. Any Democratic member of Congress who didn't wake up this morning ready to fight, resist and obstruct in the way Republicans did against President Obama every day for eight full years must step out of the way and let those of us who know the score lead the way in stopping the meanness and the madness that's about to begin.
    4. Everyone must stop saying they are "stunned" and "shocked". What you mean to say is that you were in a bubble and weren't paying attention to your fellow Americans and their despair. YEARS of being neglected by both parties, the anger and the need for revenge against the system only grew. Along came a TV star they liked whose plan was to destroy both parties and tell them all "You're fired!" Trump's victory is no surprise. He was never a joke. Treating him as one only strengthened him. He is both a creature and a creation of the media and the media will never own that.
    5. You must say this sentence to everyone you meet today: "HILLARY CLINTON WON THE POPULAR VOTE!" The MAJORITY of our fellow Americans preferred Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. Period. Fact. If you woke up this morning thinking you live in an effed-up country, you don't. The majority of your fellow Americans wanted Hillary, not Trump. The only reason he's president is because of an arcane, insane 18th-century idea called the Electoral College. Until we change that, we'll continue to have presidents we didn't elect and didn't want. You live in a country where a majority of its citizens have said they believe there's climate change, they believe women should be paid the same as men, they want a debt-free college education, they don't want us invading countries, they want a raise in the minimum wage and they want a single-payer true universal health care system. None of that has changed. We live in a country where the majority agree with the "liberal" position. We just lack the liberal leadership to make that happen (see: #1 above).

    Let's try to get this all done by noon today.
    -- Michael Moore

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    1. Anonymous5:33 AM

      I'm going to send off a note to President Obama tomorrow (will prepare it today) and thank him for his wonderful leadership as POTUS and let him know how much I'm going to miss him.

      We should all do it is my thought!

      I don't know how he is going to get through this morning in welcoming the asshole Donald Trump and his ilk to the White House. Say a prayer for our President!

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  23. Anonymous12:39 AM

    I know she garnered more college educated white women, but Trump garnered a ton of them too. THAT is revealing and not good on her.

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  24. Anonymous1:09 AM

    I feel physically sick right now. Cannot sleep. I know, that my President will have to put up a great face later this day and welcome that orange buffoon to the White House, knowing full well, that this buffoon is not capable of leading our country, does not even know how our government works, and is in bed with he KKK and with Putin's whore.
    What will the next years bring? The ReTugs are deep in power now. They actually have a solid hold of all three branches of government, and will dismantle everything my President has worked for during the last eight years. They will ram through whatever the Big Corporations want them to do. They will dismantle every single social security net our country has painstakingly built up over the last one hundred years.
    My heart and soul bleeds for our country. Whatever progress we have made is for naught. Science and facts will not mean anything anymore. We will become a country that is totally bigoted and biased against any outside influence.
    I have never been so depressed and gloomy in my whole long life. I feel for my President, who will have to make a good face to a bad game. His heart must be breaking.
    We as a country have let our President down. We have abandoned him. I don't know what could be worse for him. I know that he wanted to stay in DC for a couple more years until his youngest daughter is finished with school. I hope, they decide otherwise and actually leave the country. There is no way to fight this darkness that has come over our country. There is no way to fight this. This evil will have total control - even the laws will be interpreted according to what they want, not according to what is right. Lawyers that do not do what they want them to do will be shunned and thrown out ('you are fired!'). Police have the free hand to go with impunity against any minority. We have seen this already happening the last ten years or so, where the White Suppremacists have infiltrated their ranks and have been shooting unarmed black people, letting armed and dangerous white people literally get away with murder.
    The ACLU has vowed to fight this evil. I have no hope, that they will prevail. On the contrary.
    Private prisons were supposed to become a thing of the past. They just got a yuuge boost again.

    I need to stop. I need to get outta here. Tears are wetting my face as I write this. I am scared. Scared for us as a country, scared for the future that we will bring to our children. Scared for the whole world, because we will have a science- denying buffoon as the leader of the world.
    Where, oh where is that Giant Meteor that will end it all?

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    1. I think Obama should give him his high school locker combination and tell him it's the nuclear codes.

      Then maybe tell him the phone is fake and those buttons are the launch buttons.

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  25. Anonymous3:02 AM

    I've come here because I wanted some solace. It's been painful. Last week I had a premonition that Hillary would lose and I fought against believing it. I decided not to go to Facebook after this election, a place I have visited every day for the past 4 to 5 years. I don't want to see DT or read about the election. I feel as though our country has been taken over by a confederacy of dunces.

    Thanks Gryphen for sharing your thoughts throughout the election. I'm sure as we get used to the change in leadership, there will be plenty of things to think about and write about. It's too soon for me to find the humor in any of it and I am someone who loves to laugh. I'm broken hearted. Hopefully I will get over it.

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  26. Anonymous5:22 AM

    It's going to be interesting to watch how quickly Trump and Pence bring down the media (especially that negative to them) and comedians and their nightly or weekly shows that are also anti them.

    Trump already has said he would. America is in for a world of hurt and the majority of the idiots in our country voted for them! I'm glad I'm a senior and more than likely won't be around to view and live in all the damage that is going to be created in our country and throughout the world!

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  27. Anonymous5:27 AM

    The media - TV channels - are trying so hard to make Trump a 'regular guy' since the country is so against his being elected. It's amazing to watch! The media is the problem that Trump was elected for Christ's sake!

    A regular guy Donald Trump is NOT! He's a fascist and will be a dictator. Just watch when he is the actual POTUS. Those protestors we watched on TV last night - when Trump is in place - will be stopped with military force and pushed by his government. I see it coming! I think there will be incarcerations galore, deaths and the strong possibility of a civil war within our country.

    Trump is going to take away Obamacare and deprive millions of Americans medical insurance and therefore, medical care. That, in itself, is going to piss folks off and that is just a starter!

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