Friday, December 16, 2016

FBI now backs CIA assessment that Russia hacked the election to help Donald Trump win. Update: Hillary Clinton weighs in.

Courtesy of the Washington Post:

FBI Director James B. Comey and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. have backed a CIA assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help Donald Trump win the presidency, according to U.S. officials. 

Comey’s support for the CIA’s conclusion suggests that the leaders of the three agencies are in agreement on Russian intentions, contrary to suggestions by some lawmakers that the FBI disagreed with the CIA. 

“Earlier this week, I met separately with (Director) FBI James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,” CIA Director John Brennan said in a message to the agency’s workforce, according to U.S. officials who have seen the message.

“The three of us also agree that our organizations, along with others, need to focus on completing the thorough review of this issue that has been directed by President Obama and which is being led by the DNI,” Brennan’s message read.

Trump has consistently dismissed the intelligence community’s findings about Russian hacking. 

The CIA and FBI declined to comment.

Okay this is big news as the FBI hesitance to jump on board with the CIA was the talking point used by the Right Wing to suggest that the CIA was not credible in their assessment.

I have no idea what Donald Trump and the conservatives can now use to cast doubt on these findings, since, whether the public has seen it or not, whatever evidence the NSA and CIA have in their possession made James Comey a believer.

I also have no idea how we can legitimize this election based on what we know was done to undermine its result.

Update: Here is Hillary's take:

Hillary Clinton said on Thursday that the hacking attacks carried out by Russia against her campaign and the Democratic National Committee were intended “to undermine our democracy” and were ordered by Vladimir V. Putin “because he has a personal beef against me.” 

Speaking to a group of donors in Manhattan, Mrs. Clinton said that Mr. Putin, the Russian president, had never forgiven her for the accusation she made in 2011, when she was secretary of state, that parliamentary elections his country held that year were rigged. 

“Putin publicly blamed me for the outpouring of outrage by his own people, and that is the direct line between what he said back then and what he did in this election,” Mrs. Clinton said. 

“Make no mistake, as the press is finally catching up to the facts, which we desperately tried to present to them during the last months of the campaign,” Mrs. Clinton told the group, which collectively poured roughly $1 billion into her effort. “This is not just an attack on me and my campaign, although that may have added fuel to it. This is an attack against our country. We are well beyond normal political concerns here. This is about the integrity of our democracy and the security of our nation.”

THAT is the President we were supposed to have, the President that we deserved.

Not that orange baboon with the stubby fingers. 

75 comments:

  1. Rigged10:51 AM

    What?!

    Who was served a warrant for Hillary's emails?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-court-idUSKBN14501S

    "Huma Abedin, the longtime aide to Hillary Clinton, asked a U.S. judge on Wednesday to allow her to review a search warrant the FBI used to gain access to emails related to Clinton's private server shortly before the Nov. 8 presidential election.

    In a letter filed in Manhattan federal court, Abedin said she was never provided a copy of the warrant, nor was her estranged husband, former Democratic U.S. Representative Anthony Weiner, whose computer contained the emails in question."

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    1. Just more support for accusations of sedition aimed at Comey. He intentionally undermined Clinton's chances of winning the election. He knew exactly what he was doing and timed it perfectly to have the most damage.

      Why did he never mention one word about any investigations into Russia's ties to the Trump campaign or the Russian hacking?

      Now Comey is trying to cover his ass and make nice.

      Fuck him.

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    2. Anonymous4:02 AM

      Who appointed Comey to head the FBI?

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    3. 4:02

      Obama. In the spirit of "bipartisanship."

      Fuck that too.

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  2. Anonymous11:11 AM

    The orange shitgibbon is gloating about the hacking because it helped him win. Can you imagine how the whiny little bitch would react if he had lost and this came to light.

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    1. Anonymous11:44 AM

      The whiny little bitch has her own shit to cover. In the name of the Lord.

      "Merry Christmas, assholes!"
      Isn't she speshul?

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  3. Anonymous11:14 AM

    Devastating report shows how much leverage Wells Fargo has over Trump

    The Intercept’s David Dayen has a detailed new report showing that Trump owes a frightening amount of money to Wells Fargo, the embattled bank that was busted earlier this year for creating fake accounts that wound up costing customers at least $2.5 million.

    Specifically, Dayen speculates that Wells Fargo could get a break on its regulatory and legal burdens in the future once Trump takes office since the bank owns the mortgage on Trump Tower in New York City.

    “Trump lives and works at Trump Tower, which has an appraised value of $480 million, according to a Wells Fargo securitization document filed with the SEC,” Dayen writes. “Trump is listed as the sponsor of the 10-year mortgage loan on the building, refinanced in 2012 for $100 million. While the borrower is listed as ‘Trump Tower Commercial LLC,’ it’s made clear that ‘The borrower is indirectly owned 100% by Donald J. Trump.'”

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/devastating-report-shows-how-much-leverage-wells-fargo-has-over-trump/

    https://theintercept.com/2016/12/16/wells-fargo-is-on-a-losing-streak-but-still-has-some-trump-cards/

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    1. Anonymous12:39 PM

      Thanks. Will go read.

      And he owes hundreds of millions to China Bank and Goldman Sachs. There is no doubt in my mind that nominating all those Goldman guys to his Cabinet will get his loans forgiven, and GS might even take care of some other debts Trump has (I'd not be surprised). They are so going to benefit from their jobs and having Trump in there. Those millions will be peanuts to them in the long-run.

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  4. Anonymous11:16 AM

    Watching President Obama's press conference.
    OMG please stay.

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    1. Anonymous11:26 AM

      President Obama is OUTSTANDING!

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  5. Anonymous11:18 AM

    Monica Crowley, you now join the ranks of ugly creatures helping a fascist monster destroy America. There is no point in shaming such as you. Now you have become part of the political cancer that seeks to devour what is good about this country. This cancer must be stopped.

    Monica Crowley: Sarah Palin Makes The GOP 'Hip And Cool'

    http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2016/12/monica-crowley-hip-cool-gop

    WTF?

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    1. Anonymous11:35 AM

      Sarah Palin makes the GOP look like a worn out broad on a street corner Saturday night asking if you want to take her home for the evening for a price.

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    2. Anonymous12:40 PM

      And then you end up discovering that the she is actually a he.

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    3. Anonymous4:42 PM

      Dude Looks Like a Lady

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  6. Anonymous11:24 AM


    Trump Takes A New Tack On Russia Election Scandal

    The president-elect suggested the Kremlin did the U.S. a favor if it meddled in our election.

    The bigger problem with Trump’s tweet, however, is that he’s asking Americans to view this massive cyber-espionage campaign ― in which Russian hackers also targeted Republican political committees, candidates and campaign staff ― as some kind of public service to America, because it “revealed” that Brazile had shared a debate question.

    At the same time, Trump appeared to be oblivious to the fact that the Russian cyberattack was just that, an attack, by a foreign power, designed to undermine Americans’ confidence in the democratic electoral system. Instead, Trump got it backwards, falsely claiming that the Russians did the United States a favor by exposing “illegal” activity.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-russian-espionage-was-a-good-thing-for-america_us_5853ffaee4b0b3ddfd8c272f

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    1. Anonymous12:41 PM

      He is so friggin stupid. There's no depth there, no comprehension.

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    2. I'm sure the favor he's referring to is getting him elected.

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  7. Anonymous11:24 AM

    I suspect Comey agrees with this to take the heat off his loathsome actions. HE did this as much as Russia did. He is complicit in throwing a national election. We need another vote!!

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  8. Anonymous11:28 AM

    "according to U.S. officials"

    According to STILL UNNAMED US officials.

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  9. Anonymous11:39 AM

    Motherload of stuff!

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/category/top-stories/

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/category/donald-trump/

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  10. Anonymous11:39 AM

    Paul Ryan’s SuperPAC Just Got Caught Working With Putin’s Stolen Emails In House Races

    http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/12/15/paul-ryan-just-got-working-russian-hackers-rig-house-races/

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    1. Anonymous12:43 PM

      "Democrats sent a letter to his Republican counterpart on Aug. 29 arguing that “the NRCC’s use of documents stolen by the Russians plays right into the hands of one of the United States’ most dangerous adversaries,” and if the National Republican Campaign Committee continued using the materials, the GOP “will be complicit in aiding the Russian government in its effort to influence American elections.”

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  11. Anonymous11:40 AM

    BREAKING: Russians Agents STILL Agressively Hacking Democrats After Election

    ...Russian cyberhacking activity has continued largely unabated since the November election, including against US political organizations, US officials briefed on the investigation told CNN on Thursday. Among the attempted cyber breaches are phishing attempts targeting Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s campaign, one official says. The attempt to breach the Clinton campaign was unsuccessful, investigators tell CNN.

    http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/12/16/officials-just-admitted-russians-still-hacking-political-institutions/

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  12. Anonymous11:46 AM


    The FBI Just Admitted Putin DID Carry Out Election Hacks, Trump Silent

    Will the FBI finally do its job and finally investigate Donald Trump’s convenient relationship to the Russian dictator?

    http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/12/16/fbi-just-admitted-putin-carry-election-hacks-trump-silent/

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    1. What is treasonous and could it be applied to Trump?

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    2. Anonymous4:41 PM

      I heard he was silent when he got elected.
      Now he is silent about this?
      One gets the impression he didn't think he was going to win to begin with?
      May be making America Great again means catching the Russian Rat? His is NY'er!

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  13. Anonymous11:56 AM

    Newsweek Just Revealed Trump Lied, NEVER Got Ivy League MBA

    Republican nominee Donald Trump likes to talk about his collegiate performance, how he graduated first in his class from the prestigious Ivy League Wharton School of Business, and how his mind is tremendous, one of the best minds.

    But Newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald noted today that in fact, Trump never graduated with an Masters of Business Administration from Wharton, nor was he “first in his class.”

    He was a transfer student from Fordham University and only attended Wharton for two years. If you inspect the honors list from Wharton’s 1967 graduating class, draft-dodging Trump is nowhere on it.

    It just goes to show that like almost every accomplishment Donald Trump likes to brag about, his academic career is not nearly as respectable as he likes to pretend it is. He only got into Wharton in the first place because of “an interview with a friendly Wharton admissions officer who was one of [father Fred Trump] old high school classmates.”

    Biographer Jeromie Tuccille notes that “Donald agreed to attend Wharton for his father’s sake. He showed up for classes and did what was required of him but he was clearly bored and spent a lot of time on outside business activities.” Gwenda Blair, in her 2001 book “The Trumps,” said that Trump’s grades at Fordham were just “respectable.”

    Once again, Trump has been caught in a bold-face lie, and this is yet another fact that shows he is entirely unqualified to be our President.

    http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/11/07/newsweek-just-revealed-trump-lied-never-got-ivy-league-mba

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    1. Anonymous12:46 PM

      I have commented on a # of forums re Trump being a transfer student. I hate his bragging. It's always Wharton Wharton Wharton. As a univ. academic counselor, I often suggested that students spend a year or two at one college before trying to get into the college harder to get into and that never would accept people as first-year students. There are so many transfer students who can brag about their degrees who only spent half their time there.

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    2. Bold-faced lies: Does Trump know the difference between truth and lies? Does America any more?

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    3. Of course he lied.

      Who would be stupid enough to believe Trump has an MBA from any university let alone an Ivy league.

      I have two master's degrees. Trump would never pass for admissions into a master's program. He couldn't complete one even if he got in. Doesn't read, limited vocabulary, lacks the discipline to read and process the material and I defy anyone to find any research paper this man wrote for any college level class. He is not a scholar.

      I would be more likely to believe he is a minister by buying a certificate (suitable for framing) from the Universal Life Church.

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  14. Anonymous11:58 AM

    Federal Judge May Unseal Controversial FBI Search Warrant for Clinton Emails

    http://www.newsweek.com/judge-may-unseal-fbi-search-warrant-clinton-emails-531898

    https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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  15. Anonymous12:00 PM

    Donald Trump Announces Plan To Eliminate Overtime Pay For MILLIONS Of Americans (DETAILS)

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2016/12/14/donald-trump-announces-plan-to-eliminate-overtime-pay-for-millions-of-americans-details/

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    1. Anonymous12:13 PM

      OK all you mentally challenged Trump supporters who elected this man "because he says everything we are thinking."
      Clinton pointed out during the campaign Trump could give a flying leap for the concerns of middle class Americans. Expect Social Security and Medicare to be on the chopping block next.

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    2. Anonymous12:50 PM

      That was to go into effect Dec. 2 and then, if I recall correctly, a judge stopped it. And now Trump wants to end it. Of course. People can keep being made to work and be ripped off. Makes me sick. Hey, if you have an insanely high salary, then you should work outside of regular hours, but this is about continuing to use the little guy and how employers keep cutting jobs/not replacing lost jobs and getting more out of the workers who are left and they, being desperate to keep their jobs, will do as asked. Finally, they were going to have someone stick up for them. But not now.

      Fuck Trump. I really want that heart attack to happen soon.

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    3. Anonymous3:46 PM

      This would apply to workers making less than $47,000 a year. So a single parent trying to support several children will now need to either try to find a second job and work additional hours to make up the difference (spending even more time away from his/her children and thus paying more for child care) or apply for government assistance.

      Oh, that's right, they're going to cut government assistance too.

      Too bad, kiddies, you're just going to have to go hungry tonight because that big, mean CEO needs another yacht or vacation home in the Bahamas.

      And as for the workers, well they just should have pulled themselves up by the bootstraps before those straps were cut off by the Republicans in Congress.

      'Pro-life' party, my ass!

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    4. LOL. We all need to practice:

      "TOLD YOU SO. Sucks to be you. Next time try voting Democratic."

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  16. Anonymous12:02 PM

    A House Democrat is calling for the Electoral College vote to be delayed until the electors can be briefed on Russia’s interference in the election. Rep. Don Beyerm(Va.) is the third Democrat who has come out in support of briefing the electors on Donald Trump’s possible ties to Russia.

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2016/12/14/congress-tells-trump-to-shove-it-members-move-to-delay-electoral-vote-details/

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    1. Anonymous12:32 PM

      A bullet list of reasons why Donald Trump is unfit for office follows and includes:

      His lack of experience in any public position;
      Threatening freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of religion;
      Entangling himself in conflicts of interest through his business dealings at home and abroad;
      Showing a “reckless disregard” for foreign diplomacy, national security, and general restraint and judgment;
      Condoning torture and Russian interference in our election, and;
      A general lack of character.

      The letter also reminds the GOP electors that having Donald Trump in the White House endangers the very Constitution and freedoms they claim to cherish and want to protect. Furthermore, they have no obligation to vote for their party’s candidate (even states that have laws against this only impose mild penalties), because:

      http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2016/12/14/citizen-runs-full-page-anti-trump-ad-in-washington-post-aimed-at-electoral-voters-details/

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  17. Anonymous12:04 PM

    Trump Pulls Panic Move After Hotel Put Under Criminal Investigation (DETAILS)

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2016/12/14/just-in-trump-pulls-panic-move-after-hotel-put-under-criminal-investigation-details/

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  18. Anonymous12:08 PM

    In a stunning, disturbing revelation from FiveThirtyEight coming in the midst of the fallout over Donald Trump’s shock election to the presidency, an error in the final presidential election vote count of nearly 30,000 votes has been discovered.

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2016/12/16/breaking-error-of-nearly-30000-votes-discovered-from-election-day-trump-silenced/

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  19. Anonymous12:09 PM

    "Not that orange baboon with the stubby fingers.” ... And an attention span to match his little member. We are in deep shit if people don’t wise up to the undermining of our democracy by two mobsters.

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  20. Anonymous12:13 PM

    More than 490,000 teacher jobs will disappear under the Donald Trump presidency, according to the think tank Center for American Progress Action Fund (CAPAF). His horrendous plan is to completely kill off the Department of Education. It gets worse.

    Trump’s pick for the secretary of education, Michigan billionaire Betsy DeVos, has already done serious damage to Michigan’s education system. Now she has her boss’ approval to privatize education.

    http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2016/12/15/breaking-donald-trump-education-plan-to-cut-almost-500000-teacher-jobs-details/

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  21. Anonymous12:29 PM

    Trump's Twitter falsehoods fire up his base, provoke opponents and distract from larger issues

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-truth-20161215-story.html

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  22. Anonymous12:33 PM

    Obama Calls Out The Media For Not Treating Hillary Clinton Fairly During The Election

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/16/obama-calls-media-treating-hillary-clinton-election.html

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    1. Anonymous12:48 PM

      It is not about President Obama . He explained it well today and why the WH had to remain silent.

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    2. Too little too late.

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  23. Anonymous12:34 PM

    If it is determined that Trump worked with a foreign government to win an election, he should either not be allowed to assume office, or removed from office.

    The bad news for Trump is that the Russia scandal is not going away, and the evidence that Russia interfered is only growing stronger. The walls are closing in on the president-elect, and if he continues to oppose the investigation, it could destroy his presidency.

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    1. Anonymous12:49 PM

      Treason.

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    2. Anonymous1:12 PM

      The operative word is not 'could' should, or would, it's 'WILL' destroy his presidency.

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    3. Actually, I don't think Putin gives a damn who's president of the U.S. I don't think he likes Hillary and probably preferred Trump as president.

      However, Putin has an agenda set for Europe and regardless of who is in the White House, his plans will go on. He has been working with Assad...not so much to help him regain control of Syria...as to keep the war going as a ploy to infiltrate Europe with as many refugees/economic migrants as possible.

      All this, just to de-stabilize Europe. We know he has been fiddling on the Ukraine border, after his capture of Crimea, which triggered the sanctions against Russia from the U.N.

      Also, Russia has a small piece of land adjacent to Poland and they have moved nuclear-capable missiles there into Kaliningrad. This has made Poland..."highly concerned."

      Estonia and Lithuania also have ports on the Baltic Sea and have protested the move. No only this, Sweden warns it is preparing for war as they fear an invasion from Russia.

      As we all ponder if Russia was involved in our elections...let's face it...the whole country is distracted. We need to pay more attention to what this little creep is doing.

      How tall was Hitler? Isn't Putin about the same size? What's with these little guys and their thirst for power?

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    4. The good news is he has both the House and the Senate and they're not going to do squat to remove him, investigate him, impeach him or even sound one peep about his business conflicts of interest.

      He can literally do anything he wants, just like he bragged he could.

      Meanwhile he is so detested, he's trying to get celebrities to agree to perform at his inaugural by giving them ambassadorships.

      Gee, isn't that illegal? I guess it doesn't matter.

      Welcome to the Fascist States of AmeriKKKa.

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    5. Anonymous4:10 AM

      There's an Saudi-sponsored pipeline going thru there. What do think it's all about?

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  24. Anonymous12:54 PM

    Man, you guys, thanks so much for all these links to check out.

    I have to say that I was thrilled to hear my man, Malcolm Nance, on MSNBC after the presser conference say that the one thing that needs to be figured out is whether Trump or anyone in his camp had any kind of connection/knowledge at all to the Russian hacking. So few people are talking about that aspect. I know how fired up Nance is and he made sure to cover everything in his remarks, ending with that point about Trump. If Trump/his camp have any connections, I trust that Nance and his buddies will find them!

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    1. Anonymous2:30 PM

      IMO, MANY on dRUMPf's team (including him) knew about and participated in the hackings. Hell, 3 of them were tightly tied politically to putin!

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    2. Anonymous4:45 AM

      If you listen to the year plus worth of venom that was spit from the lips of a liar? You will hear that he knew from day one on the elevator spectacle. As he said, he can do anything and will win. His lies, his cabinet, his behavior, his friends all gave it away. He must cheat to win. He lies to win. He bribes to win. He is a peppy little frog in the swamp of liars and fools in debt to humanity and dictaters.

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  25. Anonymous12:56 PM

    Pay For Play: Trump’s Kids Just Sold Access To Trump For $72,000

    http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/12/16/pay-play-trumps-kids-just-sold-access-trump-72000/

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  26. Anonymous12:57 PM

    New information indicates that the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign weren’t the only targets of hacking operations during this election season.

    A Boston-based cybersecurity firm has determined that hackers hit the US Election Assistance Commission (EAC), the organization that monitors voting machines and electronic voting databases.

    One hacker going by the name of “Rasputin” was found to be in the process of trying to sell the login of over a hundred EAC accounts to a Middle Eastern government broker.

    http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/12/16/report-us-agency-certifies-voting-machines-hacked/

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  27. Anonymous12:59 PM

    I remember our disbelief when Gore lost. The damage done by Bush is still with us. Hil fought a valiant battle - but there were too many forces against her. Truth is finally coming out. This is and will continue to be the most disastrous presidency we have ever witnessed. Aside from the fact Trump is such a disgusting person on so many levels he will go in with so many doubts about his legitimacy. Going to be an interesting time for sure.

    Pat Padrnos

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  28. Anonymous1:11 PM

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/newsweek-reporter-kurt-eichenwald-quits-twitter-after-trump-loving-troll-induces-seizure-with-tweet/

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  29. Anonymous1:33 PM

    President Trump can't happen soon enough so the rest of us can stop having to hear the whining and lies of the liberals.

    Trump will be President.

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    1. Anonymous2:32 PM

      Wrong comrade, he will end up on the slagheap of history.

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    2. Anonymous3:38 PM

      1:33 - So you are eager to see him make your life more difficult. Relax. It will happen soon enough. More rental shacks for the 99%, more gilded toilets for your dear leader. The gilded age 2.0 is coming. In case you haven't noticed, he's filling the swamp, not draining it.

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    3. Anonymous4:39 PM

      What if ol Humpty Trumpty is dropping alligators in a swamp full of reptiles?

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    4. Anonymous4:30 AM

      not so fast bozo. hold your breath until Monday because it aint looking solid.

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    5. Anonymous4:31 AM

      What will trump do if the electoral vote removes him? fair and square?

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    6. Anonymous12:41 PM

      Hahahahahaaa.

      OK 4:30 and 4:31 lolol.

      Keep believin' your dreams if that is all you have baby.

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  30. Anonymous1:39 PM

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-capsule-boy23-brazil-review-20161213-story.html

    true^

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  31. Anonymous2:07 PM

    Comey knew all along. It was an FBI flunky that notified an IT guy sitting at a desk at DNC in the fall of 2015. The PRESIDENT wasn't informed about the hacking until 6/16.

    Comey is shit and needs to be flushed for what he did, and DIDN'T do.

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  32. So we know what has happened but what I don't understand is why we don't just void the election results and declare him the loser, and then arrest and try him for treason. What is wrong with us? We can't let this fascist, Hitler clone become president? Why aren't we doing something to prevent this?

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    1. Anonymous3:39 PM

      Ask the Germans who elected Hitler...maybe they have some ideas...not.

      Even if the EC votes against Trump, the final vote will go to the House of Reps and 26 states will be able to "elect" him. We are screwed. Thanks Democrats who didn't bother to vote...FU

      But the charge of TREASON -- let's go for it!!
      Does not a guilty verdict come with a firing squad?

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    2. There are no legal means to do that.

      We have the electoral college that can choose someone who is fit for the office. They won't.

      We have the House that can impeach him and the Senate that can try and convict him. They won't.

      The Republicans have circumvented all of the Constitutional safeguards to prevent us from electing a tyrant and turning this country into a fascist state.

      You want an example of what is going to happen.

      Just look at North Carolina.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-cooper-republicans-north-carolina_us_5852cadbe4b012849c05d4dc

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-carolina-republicans-roy-cooper_us_5854189fe4b0b3ddfd8c3bde

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-cooper-north-carolina-governor_us_5852f7b3e4b039044707b4d8

      Keith Ellison has stepped up to fight in North Carolina.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/keith-ellison-north-carolina-gop_us_58545841e4b08debb78910aa?section=us_politics

      And Obama has stepped up to undermine Keith Ellison

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-keith-ellison-dnc_us_585460a1e4b0b3ddfd8cd1b5

      That's going to lose us in 2018.

      "For weeks, the Obama administration has been the principal holdout in a D.C.-based effort to unite the warring wings of the Democratic Party behind Ellison. The Minnesota liberal was the most prominent Capitol Hill supporter of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) during the presidential primary, and he has been embraced by establishment Clinton-backers including Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), his successor Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and key labor leaders, including American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten and American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees President Lee Saunders.

      But key figures from the Obama administration had chafed at the new alignment, with former Obama aide David Axelrod championing Perez in the press, following meetings between Perez and a host of administration figures. Obama erased any doubt about his views on Friday."

      "Many leading Democrats in Washington are furious with the administration for intervening in a transition of power that they have been attempting to manage for weeks. Obama, they argue, has actively undermined party organization by diverting resources to his own organizations, after appointing a disastrous DNC chair in Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.). "

      "Obama and Ellison have squared off over a host of issues over the years. Ellison called to curb the administration’s aggressive deportations of undocumented Americans, and opposed administration proposals to cut Social Security benefits as part of a (never-enacted) “Grand Bargain” with congressional Republicans. Ellison was an early opponent of Obama’s Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal, arguing it would undermine American workers without providing adequate protections for foreign laborers."

      Perez supports TPP.

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  33. Anonymous1:28 AM

    Fox news and Donald John Trump are the biggest LIARS ever. If you can stand it, turn to that con artist station of scientology and objectivism and witness. It is sick what they are doing to our fellow American's. America's enemy smells like a swamp and rump.

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  34. Anonymous4:27 AM

    I trust that Our President has a big Christmas surprise for America. The Election is moot. It cannot be certified with fake results. There is no maybe about it. The results are phoney fake. I don't care who or what is usa president but I do care about fake elections. The RNC and GOP are behind it. Built it, Own it And each involved must be held accountable for it. Espionage and Treason is the ultimate crime against America.

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  35. Anonymous4:35 AM

    So what happens to Donald Trump and new trump cabinet when the electoral vote makes history on Monday and removes him? Does President Obama stay on in emergency or does speaker of house ryan temporarily step in until new president? Does Hilary step in? What happens?

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  36. Anonymous4:51 AM

    Who sleeps and vacations with the lousy Russian actors? Bar flies, vodka soaked, drug induced nasty lying skanks? Dumb shits from trumpland?

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