Wednesday, December 14, 2016

Right Wing media, and Wikileaks, are pushing back hard against the Russian hacker story and suggesting that it never happened. The facts say otherwise.

I have been watching the folks on Fox News denying the Russian hacking stories and reading it at most, if not all, of the Right Wing online news sites. (And yes that also includes the Mat-Su moron.)

According to them the leaked e-mails did not come from a hack but rather from a Democratic insider who hates Hillary Clinton.

This from something called Biz Pac: 

On Sunday, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, said he has met the person who gave the DNC emails and it was not the Russians.

“I know who leaked them,” Murray told The Guardian. “I’ve met the person who leaked them, and they are certainly not Russian and it’s an insider. It’s a leak, not a hack; the two are different things.

Murray, who is a close associate of Wikileaks head Julian Assange, explained it further on his website. 

“As Julian Assange has made crystal clear, the leaks did not come from the Russians. As I have explained countless times, they are not hacks, they are insider leaks – there is a major difference between the two,” he wrote. “And it should be said again and again, that if Hillary Clinton had not connived with the DNC to fix the primary schedule to disadvantage Bernie, if she had not received advance notice of live debate questions to use against Bernie, if she had not accepted massive donations to the Clinton foundation and family members in return for foreign policy influence, if she had not failed to distance herself from some very weird and troubling people, then none of this would have happened.”

Now I don't know much about this Craig Murray fellow, except for the fact that the US denied him access to the country earlier this year, but his information runs contrary to what intelligence agencies seem to believe.

Intelligence agencies that also included the FBI back in 2015:

When Special Agent Adrian Hawkins of the Federal Bureau of Investigation called the Democratic National Committee in September 2015 to pass along some troubling news about its computer network, he was transferred, naturally, to the help desk. 

His message was brief, if alarming. At least one computer system belonging to the D.N.C. had been compromised by hackers federal investigators had named “the Dukes,” a cyberespionage team linked to the Russian government. 

The F.B.I. knew it well: The bureau had spent the last few years trying to kick the Dukes out of the unclassified email systems of the White House, the State Department and even the Joint Chiefs of Staff, one of the government’s best-protected networks.

The DNC did not react as quickly or as aggressively as they should have to that warning from the FBI, an agency that now claims they do not have the facts to support the idea of a Russian hack of the DNC, and it was not until around seven months later that they hired a cyberexperts to deal with the attacks.

And what did those cyberexperts find?

Funny you should ask.

Okay so the Russians really WERE caught red handed infiltrating the DNC computers.

And that of course is backed up now by the CIA, and the head of the NSA who said this: 

Michael S. Rogers, a Naval officer and NSA director since 2014, said on stage at a Wall Street Journal conference that Wikileaks was furthering a nation-state’s goals by publishing hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton’s presidential campaign weeks ahead of the election. 

 “There shouldn’t be any doubt in anybody’s minds, this was not something that was done casually, this was not something that was done by chance, this was not a target that was selected purely arbitrarily. This was a conscious effort by a nation-state to attempt to achieve a specific effect,” he said.

I know this must burn the asses of every one of those Trump supporters, but the facts are that Russia chose him to be our president. And Wikileaks, James Comey, and the useless idiot voters helped them to achieve that goal.

And those....are the facts.


  1. Anonymous8:36 AM

    Bombshell Report Shows FBI Knew About Russia’s DNC Hacking Since 2015

    "The low-key approach of the F.B.I. meant that Russian hackers could roam freely through the committee’s network for nearly seven months before top D.N.C. officials were alerted to the attack..."

    1. Now why would the FBI delay telling the DNC Russians had hacked them? For SEVEN MONTHS?

      Comey? Anyone?

  2. Anonymous8:37 AM

    Trump Corruption Grows As Senators Nail Education Pick For $5.3 Million In Unpaid Fines

    Democratic Senators Tom Udall (D-NM), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Jeff Merkley (D-OR), Edward J. Markey (D-MA), and Bernie Sanders (I-VT) sent a letter to Trump's Education Secretary nominee, Betsy DeVos, to pay the $5.3 million in fines that have been levied against her super PAC for election violations.

  3. Anonymous8:39 AM

    “If the US takes such a decision, it will not only be violating international law, but violating a unanimously respected international principle that no country can annex another’s territory by force.”

  4. Anonymous8:40 AM

  5. Anonymous8:45 AM

    Unfortunately, facts are not facts to those deplorables.
    Same as science is nothing but beliefs to them...

    1. Anonymous10:51 AM

      We haven't seen any facts yet. All we've seen and heard so far is claims about what the facts are and opinion about what the facts probably are.

      Only when the info is declassified and published for us to read ourselves will we know the facts.

  6. "And those...are the facts." So what? Facts, schmacts...
    "I don't believe it," says Trump and the whole machinery of his cult trot right along to his dumbroll [sic].

  7. Anonymous8:55 AM

    Looks like your only recourse is for you cry babies to drag out your cardboard protest signs and boycott Russia.

    Welcome to the wilderness asshole.

    1. Anonymous9:22 AM

      Why don't you go over to HuffPo and post in the comments section with your Russian comrades?
      And honey chile, you won't last two weeks in the wilderness you are in.

    2. Anonymous9:56 AM

      8:55, you're the asshole. You just don't get it. You don't get it because you haven't the emotional depth that creates in a person a real sense of love of country and appreciation. You'd never sacrifice a thing for this country. You probably come from a family that never has. If there are one or two of these people in your family, clearly nothing of value rubbed off on you. You're the typical person who is disengaged and has no feelings whatsoever about what this country has come through over the past decades and what it means to be here today and to be as fortunate as we are. You have nothing at stake in the well-being of this country and its future. Why don’t you just leave?

    3. 9:56
      Sure wish there were more people who could write as precisely as you did. Great and apropos comment.

  8. Anonymous9:07 AM

    I think the Republican party was gunning to own this country for a long time. They purposefully obstructed Obama for eight years. Did it very blatantly, in fact. Then they orchestrated Faux news networks with their blathering mouth pieces to play into the ears of those that wanted to hear the rhetoric. And yes, they knew, Hillary was going to run for president so they worked on that program for years. It was a kill bill moment for them. I think they got very desperate in the end, and seeing that America was getting more liberal in its' ways with the acceptance of Gays, and Transgender, that they played dirty in the end. Even accepting covert help from the FBI and Putin. They sold their soul. (Yes, yes. I know they don't have a soul. Just an example of how they sold out to get their way.) They are like cats who got the cream. But just wait. The cream will get sour before you know it.

    1. Anonymous9:29 AM

      PBO entered office with a Dem majority in Congress that lasted till the mid term elections( almost 2 years).
      He had plenty of time to fulfill some campaign promises then, and still he failed to do so.

    2. Anonymous9:43 AM

      >>>PBO entered office with a Dem majority in Congress that lasted till the mid term elections( almost 2 years).

      That is a flat out lie. Go do your homework. On the surface, it seems true, but if you go and dig deep you will see the actual facts.

    3. Anonymous9:43 AM

      9:29, I love Pres. Obama but I think one of his mistakes while in office was trying to work with the R's those first two years. He should have bowled them right over just like they will do now.

    4. Anonymous10:00 AM

      9:29, try reading through a list of his accomplishments. He worked his ass off and achieved a lot, although much was never achievable because of a pact the GOP had made. A group of 16 GOPs were in a meeting at the exact time BO was at his inauguration ball and they decided right at that meeting--they made a pact and called it a pact--that they would fight and fight not let anything BO presented go through and they'd obstruct for the next four or eight years. Yes, that is what happened. It's fact.

    5. Anonymous10:03 AM

      1st 9:43, If you want to dispute someone or something, do it. How is it possible to "dig deep" when it was a fact we had a dem majority? Dig deep for what? Jeez!

    6. Anonymous11:16 AM

      Needed 60 votes in the Senate to get stuff passed. Did not have the majority number needed to pass legislation.Kennedy was sick and Franken's election was challenged so he was in limbo.
      There are tons of info out there.
      Google is your friend.
      You are bending the majority facts not just a little... a lot.

    7. This is another bullshit Right Wing argument.

      We did not have a filibuster proof majority until Al Franken was finally seated end of June 2009.

      However Ted Kennedy died in August of 2009, and was replaced briefly by Paul Kirk until the special election which Scott Brown, a Republican, won in February of 2010. And that was the end of the Democratic majority.

      So at the very most President Obama had a Democratic majority behind him for approximately 7 months.

      And yes he got a hell of a lot done in that time frame.

  9. Anonymous9:13 AM

    What? Igor who replaced american workers with Indian nationals at disney was appointed by orsnge baffoon? Mske america for executives...

  10. Hedgewytch9:17 AM

    CALL your Senators. Online petitions and emails are o.k. but do not have the same impact as when offices are flooded by personal calls from constituents - then the Senators really start paying attention. I called them this a.m. Just tell the staffer how deeply concerned you are about the information being released and ask for an in depth investigation now. To contact our Alaska delegation:
    Senator Lisa Murkowski: Phone: (907) 271-3735
    Senator Dan Sullivan: Phone: (907) 271-5915
    Representative Don Young: (907) 271-5978

    1. Anonymous8:43 PM

      When you realize they don't care you will be allright...

  11. Anonymous9:24 AM

    What happened to buy american, hire americans?

    1. This election was a "classic" turn about for us Americans.
      Now maybe we can appreciate the anguish felt by Nicaragua,Venezuela,Iran,Cuba and so on with our interference in their elections.
      So while casting stones about our perceived election tampering, maybe we should just look at the big picture that has been evolving all these years and just suck it up and see how we like it.
      Not very pretty when it happens to us, is it?

    2. Americans don't like to pay the cost of American labor.

      They want a deal, something for nothing, cheap.

      It's what made Walmart great.

  12. Anonymous9:51 AM

    I detest the lying we are currently hearing throughout the USA (media and politicians) as well as the hate, fear and racism that has spread throughout America (and our population) since Trump announced his run for potus!

    He will never be my potus! I don't respect him one iota and think him nothing more than an egomaniac being out for himself and the want and need to increase his wealth throughout the world!

    Most of all, he is NOT qualified to serve as potus. I'm so worried for our country. He is NOT in OUR corner!

    I so wish Hillary Clinton could take the oath of office on January 20, 2017. We'd be a much, much safer and happier country with her in the lead! Plus, she beat him in the popular vote by being near three million votes ahead!

    Hillary Clinton IS whom America wants as their leader!! (and, he knows it!!!)

  13. Anonymous10:12 AM

    Russia what are you so worried about...cough...

  14. Anonymous10:17 AM

    Or this? BJs
    Bad Journalism

    "every Secretary of State since the invention of the internet had done the same thing, because the State Department’s computer systems have always been awful; that at the end of the administration of the nation’s 41st president a corrupt national archivist appointed by Ronald Reagan upon the recommendation of Dick CHENEY signed a secret document giving George H.W. Bush personal, physical custody of the White House’s email backup tapes so they would never enter the public record. "
    "in 2000, his intent to use a presidential run to “make money on it,” for all America’s journalists to see—and ignore. "
    “It may not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS.” Or, yet worse, a game. Moonves again: “Man, who would have expected the ride we’re all having right now? . . . The money’s rolling in and this is FUN.”It’s almost like they keep score in editorial offices. Only a certain number of horrifying—which is to say, truthful—things can be allowed in a major publication about our president-elect every day, which then must be balanced by something reassuring. Which is to say, something NOT true."

    1. Anonymous10:55 AM


      This sounds like the chorus of a Kid rock song!

      "All the crackheads, the critics, the cynics
      And all my heros in the Methodone Clinic
      All you bastards at the IRS
      For the crooked cops and the cluttered desks
      For the shots of jack and the caps of meth
      Half pints of love and the fifths of stress
      For the hookers all tricking out in Hollywood
      And for my hoods of the world misunderstood
      I said it's all good and it's all in fun
      Now get in the pit and try to love someone

  15. Anonymous10:34 AM

    Alright, be honest. We, the general public, even you, the great Gryphen, haven't seen any facts about this yet. We've heard only claims of what the facts are by people who say they've seen the facts. Some of these claims are being made by people who can only be described as "some guys on twitter". Claims aren't facts. Only when the evidence is declassified and We the People get to see it and judge for ourselves will you be able to say honestly "those are the facts."

  16. Anonymous10:35 AM

    Go see if you can watch last night's TRMS online. She did a detailed look at the new SOS nominee's goings-on in Chad, Africa, and he is a louse. Exxon and two other oil companies made a deal with the leader of Chad, a land-locked country and very impoverished, to take their oil out of there and they built a pipeline to the sea and the leader of the country made billions. The money that was to go to the citizens never got to them. There was a deal made. The leader of Chad decided later to renege. Two of the oil companies left. Exxon didn't. Chad remains as poor as before and the leader spent the money made from the oil on his own interests and guns (wonder who he got those from--Rachel didn't say). The Exxon company was willing to go along with this leader after he reneged and all that matters to Exxon is taking the oil and getting rich. They turn a completely blind eye to the abuses of the leader. The US govt. tried to prevent the oil deal because it knew what would end up happening with the power grab and abuses, but the oil companies made the deal anyway and Exxon stayed. This SOS nominee is a corrupt and morally depraved asshole.

  17. Anonymous10:36 AM


    For real.

    Why Clinton lost?

    How Clinton lost Michigan — and blew the election Across battlegrounds, Democrats blame HQ’s stubborn commitment to a one-size-fits-all strategy.

    By Edward-Isaac Dovere

    12/14/16 05:08 AM EST


  18. Anonymous11:22 AM

    If Putin wanted to bankrupt our country and see it collapse from the inside, then ensuring Trump's election would do the deed. And I think that is exactly what Putin wants.

    Putin is butt-hurt over the collapse of the USSR. He will take his revenge.

    1. Anonymous2:15 PM

      Instead of putin moving money to infrastructure and businesses and educating engineers, techs, ...on his vast vast vast lands, he is just taking all money and expects his country to thrive on his vast vast vast lands.

    2. Anonymous6:35 PM

      Sounds like what dumpster and his thugs had in mind. Fuck the nation,we're lining our pockets!

  19. Anonymous11:41 AM

    Just enter in google search, youtube russian fraud...

  20. Anonymous11:46 AM

    Youtube tussian fraud. Hilarious, workers stuffing ballot boxes. One worker hiding ballots under book and then another worker sheilding her while she stuffs ballot box. LOL. MO Wonder orange arse and gang look to russia!

  21. To the Right Wing media, and Wikileaks, I say BULLSHIT!

  22. Anonymous1:03 PM

    @$$hole Joe Arpiehole lost but he's still humping that Obama Birth certificate!!

  23. What kind of a disconnect do you have Gryphen? On one hand you have no problem with Hillary having a secret private server for doing public business on and apparently believe no national secrets were put at risk. On the other hand, you believe that the Russians hacked the Democrat Party and somehow stole the election.

    Same disconnect of accusing Republicans of using the Russians to steal the election for Trump, but no acknowledgment of the Dems plotting to steal the primary for Hillary.

    Same disconnect used to try to paint Trump as a sex abuser, when Hillary personally attacked women who accused her husband of taking liberties with them. This disconnect is what cost Dems the election.

    Dems cost themselves this election and are in turmoil. But your disconnect to what was really going on claimed that this was soon to be the fate of the Republican Party. Hillary was going to win, the Dems were taking over the house and Seanate, and the Republicans were going to fade into history like the Whigs. The Dems snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Instead of blaming everyone else under the sun, They'd be way better off looking in the mirror and fixing what needs fixing what needs to be fixed in the party. They are coming off as whiny losers. The same a Republicans looked like under Obama.


    "U.S. intelligence officials say they believe Russian President Vladimir Putin was directly involved in efforts to disrupt the 2016 U.S. presidential election, NBC News reported Wednesday.

    NBC’s bombshell story comes days after The Washington Post reported that the Central Intelligence Agency believes Russia sought to influence the election and help secure President-elect Donald Trump’s victory. Those efforts reportedly included hacking the emails of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, and providing them to WikiLeaks. The New York Times, in an extensive report on the hacks, offered details on how the attacks were carried out and reported that Democratic House candidates were also targeted.

    According to NBC, officials believe the meddling went all the way to the very top of Russia’s government. NBC reports:

    Two senior officials with direct access to the information say new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said.

    Putin’s objectives were multifaceted, a high-level intelligence source told NBC News. What began as a “vendetta” against Hillary Clinton morphed into an effort to show corruption in American politics and to “split off key American allies by creating the image that [other countries] couldn’t depend on the U.S. to be a credible global leader anymore,” the official said."


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