Thursday, March 16, 2017

John McCain accuses Rand Paul of working for Vladimir Putin. More popcorn? Update!

Courtesy of CBS News:

The fireworks came as McCain spoke in support of a Senate unanimous consent request in support of Montenegro’s bid to join NATO. The libertarian-leaning Paul, who has often advocated for a less interventionist foreign policy, opposes the resolution. 

“You are achieving the objectives of Vladimir Putin...trying to dismember this small country which has already been the subject of an attempted coup,” McCain said, in an apparent reference to Paul.

McCain then asked that the resolution be passed unanimously, prompting an objection from Paul who then exited the room. McCain then reiterated his accusation. 

“I note the senator from Kentucky leaving the floor without justification or any rationale for the action he has just taken. That is really remarkable -- that a senator blocking a treaty that is supported by the overwhelming number, perhaps 98 at least of his colleagues, would come to the floor and object and walk away…The only conclusion you can draw when he walks away is he has no argument to be made. 

He has no justification for his objection to having a small nation be part of NATO that is under assault from the Russians. So, I repeat again, the senator from Kentucky is now working for Vladimir Putin.”

Damn!

Later Senator Paul made this statement on CBS News: 

“Currently, the United States has troops in dozens of countries and is actively fighting in Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Yemen (with the occasional drone strike in Pakistan),” Paul wrote. “In addition, the United States is pledged to defend 28 countries in NATO. It is unwise to expand the monetary and military obligations of the United States given the burden of our $20 trillion debt.”

I don't know if it is a breach of Senate decorum to accuse a peer of working for the Russians or not, but with their puppet currently occupying the White House it DOES seem like a reasonable accusation to make.

Update: Rand Paul responds to McCain's statements:   

You know, I think he makes a really, really strong case for term limits. I think maybe he's past his prime; I think maybe he's gotten a little bit unhinged.

Oh yeah, I am definitely going to need some more popcorn. 

31 comments:

  1. http://thehill.com/opinion/brent-budowsky/203727-budowsky-rand-pauls-putin-problem

    McCain showed great restraint.

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  2. But, what the hell is gutting everything except the military, and then increasing their budget but hundreds of millions FOR if not to protect our NATO allies?

    Rand Paul if a fucking idiot.

    It's delightful that the GOP are now eating their young. Yeah, Paul ain't that young but compared to McCain?

    McCain still needs to APOLOGIZE for SARAH PALIN. Until then, I don't care how much "good" he does under a Trump rule. He's still a putz.

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    1. Anonymous8:33 PM

      Actual palin lost the election for him, so maybe we should thank him.

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  3. The wheels are coming off the bus....knocked off by the guys being thrown under it. Delicious hours, every one shows the catastrophe that is the Trump Administration.

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    1. Anonymous1:54 PM

      This mess started long before Trump conned his way into the White House. The first signs of party collapse happened when they encouraged the loons of the Koch-funded tea party to get so much power.

      Now they're paying the price because that faction was able to divide up the party enough that the slate of candidates last year looked like what's left in my garden after I harvest all the edible carrots. The remnants are all gnarled, lumpy, bug-eaten and rotten. The biggest and most rotten carrot of all ended up with the nomination and, much to the GOP's dismay, ended up winning, with assistance from his owner and master, Vladimir Putin.

      Now we just have to hope that the implosion of the Trump administration (and the GOP if we're lucky) is completed before the entire country is decimated.

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    2. Anonymous3:11 PM

      @1:54 Excellent points. But they are still in power and are already doing a lot of damage. But is good news from many quarters. Block the big things and Trumpie looks weak, his party looks weak.

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  4. Anonymous12:16 PM

    Well, Rand Paul is....

    follow the $

    as always

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    1. Anonymous1:10 PM

      Rockafellers and Russia $$$

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    2. Anonymous3:22 PM

      Greatest RACKET of the 20th Century. Paybacks a bitch! Hello global depression... Goodbye humanity..oh well!

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    3. Anonymous9:38 PM

      Now now just because some are liars and crooks doesn't mean every one is. Meek inherit the earth is a better deal! That will piss off the rich! We can sit back and watch the live entertainment eh? Try?

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  5. Anonymous12:46 PM

    As far as I'm concerned both McCain and Paul Rand are super schmucks and always have been. This is what the GOP has come to - Trumpland's finest.

    I agree with the "change.org" petition making the rounds to end healthcare benefits for members of Congress (see Daily KOS for details). Let them have to scare up insurance for themselves and their families just like everyone else. Any Congressional family members with pre-existing conditions. . . .
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous2:04 PM

      Gee when are they going to give themselves another raise?

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    2. Anonymous3:12 PM

      Not long, raises and exemption from any prosecutions.

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    3. Elliegrl4:16 PM

      McCain is not perfect, far from it. But if you follow how big this story is you know he's one of the few defenders of our Democracy. He has sources & knows how big this is. It's worse than Watergate. The Russian Dossier was passed to the FBI BY McCain. He's calling ppl out & will not allow a hostile power to take over our country. Despite bringing Sarah nutjub Palin in our lives, if he can take Comrade Trump down he deserves a freakin medal imho. You can real @Louisemensch @20committee for more.

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    4. Anonymous7:19 PM

      Might this be an attempt at personal 'atonement' for unleashing the lip-stuck pitbull grizzly sow upon an unsuspecting public in 2008?

      This is what I tell myself every time I see and/or hear #45 Deviant Don, Precedent by Russian deception + US dumbed-down voters.

      dowl

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  6. Anonymous1:02 PM

    John McCain And Rand Paul Are Fighting Like MEOW HISS GRRRR ARGH!

    Uh oh, Senators John McCain and Rand Paul are having a fight! It started Wednesday in the Senate when McCain (R-Not Russia) put on his angry pants and accused Paul of being a person who works for Vladimir Putin, just like a common pal of Donald Trump’s! Harsh words from John McCain, who haaaaaaates Putin, like any patriotic American does.

    Politico explains the little tiff happened because the Senate is debating letting the tiny nation of Montenegro into NATO. Pretty much everybody supports it, because NATO is a very good alliance, and Montenegro seems nice enough, yeah? Well, Putin doesn’t like it, because Montenegro is on the foreign part of the globe called the “Balkans,” and Putin doesn’t want countries over there joining up with NATO, because it limits his sphere of influence. So! By the estimation of one Senator WALNUTS!!! from Arizona, if you don’t support letting Montenegro into NATO, you are SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY, RAND PAUL.

    On the Senate floor, John McCain said there are literally no reasons in the world to oppose letting Montenegro into NATO, and if you object, you are essentially doing Putin’s bidding. So of course, Rand Paul got up to object, and then promptly queened right out of the room, all melodramatic and such. John McCain noticed!

    https://wonkette.com/614292/john-mccain-and-rand-paul-are-fighting-like-meow-hiss-grrrr-argh

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  7. Anonymous1:31 PM

    We've all been focusing on Putin and Trump, but there's no reason not to think that Pooty Poot wouldn't have tried to get people in Congress in his pocket, too.

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    1. Anonymous3:14 PM

      Yep -- it is only logical; thought of that last week. Bribes, threats, blackmail. All in Poot's wheelhouse.

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    2. Anonymous3:23 PM

      He can take his hand and fuck himself...if he can reach it?

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  8. Anonymous2:38 PM

    Goal of Kentucky Republicans: School Re-Segregation

    For 40 years, Louisville has worked hard to integrate its schools, and citizens support integration broadly. But now, here comes the newly minted GOP state legislature…

    ...Following this controversial decision JCPS has needed to further retool its desegregation metrics and has been confronted with even more legal challenges. In 2012, the Kentucky Supreme Court upheld JCPS’s ability to decide where to assign students.

    However, House Bill 151 could undo this ruling. State Rep. Kevin D. Bratcher (R), who is a sponsor of the bill and represents part of Jefferson County, says that the bill aims to bring common sense to an unfair system, and warns, “We have to look at what we’re giving up for desegregation.”

    ...Bratcher’s dangerous ideological myopia typifies today’s Republican agenda, which displays a quasi-racist underbelly. The three Steves—King, Bannon, and Miller—are shining examples of this influential underbelly. Conservatives refuse to crackdown on the increase in white nationalism and terror by white supremacists, but they don’t hesitate to undermine structures that promote and sustain diversity. Additionally, concerning JCPS, and other legal challenges, they have the gall to employ “post-racial” arguments for invoking the Fourteenth Amendment, which granted citizenship to African Americans, and racial equity policies from the civil rights era as examples of denying rights to white Americans. They are using our established tools for social progress as implements for collective regression.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/16/goal-of-kentucky-republicans-school-re-segregation.html

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    1. Anonymous5:54 PM

      I don't agree with forced desegregation, which it seems is what is happening in part of KY. If an area happens to be overwhelmingly white or black then ,in my opinion, the schools should match the racial demographic of that area.

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  9. Anonymous2:42 PM

    Look who’s going after Trump’s Russia scandal

    Democrats have been arguing for weeks that a special prosecutor or independent commission is required to get to the bottom of the metastasizing scandal over President Trump’s and his aides’ connections to Russia. Now they are getting help from Stand Up Republic, a group formed by the independent conservative presidential ticket of Evan McMullin and Mindy Finn. Stand Up Republic is out with a new ad entitled “Sunlight“:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/03/14/look-whos-going-after-trumps-russia-scandal/

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    1. Anonymous3:23 PM

      April 15th

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  10. Anonymous2:56 PM

    Just another Second Amendment nutter flashing his piece?

    IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT ALLEGEDLY:


    ...Still, SUBJECT A's version of entertainment can go too far. Last year, after ending one of his many spirited on-air arguments with liberal contributor VICTIM A, SUBJECT A pulled out a gun and pointed it directly at VICTIM A, according to three sources with knowledge of the incident. He even turned on the laser sight, causing a red dot to bob around on VICTIM A's body. (SUBJECT A was just showing off, the sources said, but the unforeseen off-camera antic clearly disturbed VICTIM A and OTHER WITNESSES - DOES A TO Z.)

    For the record: SUBJECT A's colleagues brought the VICTIM A incident to the attention of THE EMPLOYER OF BOTH SUBJECT A and VICTIM A - REDACTED News executives, though it's not clear whether anything came of it. The sources said it went to SDUBJECT B, the network's co-president and longtime REDACTED News executive, who is SUBJECT A's longtime friend and a former producer. A REDACTED News spokesperson said the incident was referred to the legal and human resources departments.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/16/media/sean-hannity-juan-williams-gun/

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  11. Anonymous3:05 PM

    I'll come clean and say I detest McCain. He left VN era families of MIA and POW's hanging by deciding looking for their loved ones or their remains was unimportant. So I think it is telling when as a progressive Democrat I now find myself cheering McCain on.

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  12. Anonymous4:13 PM

    sweet g

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  13. I admit that I have not read all of the replies, but I am a firm believer in term limits. However, I don't see that happening in my lifetime as the house and senate would have to vote on that.

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  14. Anonymous4:50 PM

    Why did mcnut choose palin? And then why did she resign?

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    1. Anonymous5:05 PM

      Control over Russia money. HUGE SECRET about Russia. Not so SECRET as "acted".

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    2. Anonymous9:41 PM

      Celebrating the world by the fact they ABANDONED Russia. But hey let's drink to lies! They got escorted out not assassinated like they said! That's been known forevèr...

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  15. Anonymous7:57 PM

    Flynn too:"“I cannot recall any time in our nation’s history when the President selected as his National Security Advisor someone who violated the Constitution by accepting tens of thousands of dollars from an agent of a global adversary that attacked our democracy,” Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, D-Md., the ranking minority member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, wrote in a letter sent Thursday to President Trump, Defense Secretary James Mattis and FBI Director James Comey."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/moscow-paid-45000-for-flynns-2015-talk-documents-show-165404052.html

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