Saturday, March 25, 2017

New legislation in Alabama might allow a fundamentalist church to form its own police force. Wait, what?

Courtesy of Salon: 

Donald Trump’s election didn’t just empower the alt-right troops with their #MAGA hats and Pepe the Frog avatars. The religious right is also more quietly making moves to consolidate power on a state and local level, aided by Trump’s promises to appoint conservative-friendly judges and to strike down legal limits on church-based politicking. 

But even in the current environment, it’s startling to learn that the Alabama legislature is considering a bill to give a Birmingham-based church its own police force. The bill, Senate Bill 193, would specifically authorize the Briarwood Presbyterian Church, which has more than 4,000 members, to hire its own police force that would be “invested with all of the powers of law enforcement officers in this state.” 

“The sole purpose of this proposed legislation is to provide a safe environment for the church, its members, students and guests,” the church said in a memo sent to Salon after requests for comment. The memo also mentioned the Sandy Hook school shooting in Connecticut, claiming that the church needs “qualified first responders” in case such a thing would happen there.

As the article goes on to point out this church is not sitting in the middle of the wilderness. In fact it is within the jurisdiction of two different sheriff's departments.

Besides allowing this may be unconstitutional.

“This proposed legislation seems like a clear violation of church-state separation, and a clear violation of the Constitution,” Alex Luchenitser, the associate director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said in a phone call. “Government bodies must not delegate official power to religious entities.” 

Luchenitser cited a 1982 Supreme Court case, Larkin v. Grendel’s Den, in which an 8-1 majority found that states could not give churches the official authority to grant and deny liquor licenses. 

The ACLU of Alabama cited the same decision in a memo sent, upon request, to Salon. 

“Indeed, allocating any quintessential governmental power to a religious institution plainly violates the Establishment Clause,” the memo said, warning the state of Alabama that giving a church its own police force “would not survive a legal challenge.”

You know it is bad enough that some churches and Christian schools still allow corporal punishment, but allowing them to have their own police force?

Oh hell no!


  1. Anonymous5:23 AM

    Good thing the USA is a Christian nation. If it was a Muslim nation then we would have a religion police like the mutaween, oh wait.

  2. Anonymous5:34 AM

    They can have that if they pay taxes.I actually like the idea.Tax the shit out of the churches and leys see how strong their faith is.

  3. Anonymous6:07 AM

    One, it's corporal.

    And two, I agree with you and the ACLU because this place is non-residential - just hire security guards and train them well, but how does it work on college campuses, where most colleges, secular and religious, have police for own seal, cop uniforms and yes, they carry guns?

  4. Anonymous8:20 AM

    OT? Interesting:

  5. Anonymous8:41 AM

    What might have been:

  6. Anonymous8:33 PM

    OMG....Monty Python's vision comes's the CHURCH POLICE!!!

    Seriously, this is so disturbing on so many fronts...what would republican Jeebus do??


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