Thursday, July 06, 2017

Donald Trump still maintains uncertainty about who hacked election, seems confused about number of American intelligence agencies.

Courtesy of the New York Times:

Mr. Trump suggested on Thursday that he still was not convinced that Russia was solely responsible for interference in the 2016 election, breaking with American intelligence agencies who have agreed that the effort emanated from Moscow and was directed by Mr. Putin. 

“I think it was Russia, and it could have been other people in other countries,” Mr. Trump said when asked for a yes-or-no answer to the question about Russian meddling. 

“Nobody really knows,” he added, arguing that American intelligence agencies had made serious mistakes in the past, including an assessment before the United States-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 that Baghdad had weapons of mass destruction. “Nobody really knows for sure.”

In part of this response Trump attempted to blame President Obama for not doing anything since he believed that Russia was behind the hackers: 

“He did nothing about it. Why did he do nothing about it? He was told it was Russia by the CIA, as I understand it. It was well reported. He did nothing about it. They say he choked. I don't think he choked. I think what happens is he thought Hillary Clinton was going to win the election and said let's not do anything about it. Had he thought the other way, he would have done something about it,” the president said. 

“If he thought I was going to win, he would have done plenty about it.”

However of course that is also a lie since Obama confronted Putin, informed the public, and started the investigations into the hacking, He could not have done more since he would have been accused of interfering in the election. And Trump damn well knows it.

Trump also seemed to believe that America only has three intelligence agencies, and stated that newspapers had to retract or correct stories stating that there were 17.

Of course that is also untrue.

So now tomorrow Trump has a meeting with Vladimir Putin and he is clearly still refusing to assign any blame to him for hacking the 2016 election.

The chances he will bring it up to Putin are essentially zero at this point, and if by some miracle he actually did it would probably just to be to apologize for the fact that the American media keeps blaming him.

33 comments:

  1. Anonymous8:49 AM

    Do you remember all the hysteria when President Obama went on what the right called his 'apology tour'?

    Can you just imagine how many of their empty little heads would have exploded if he had said in a speech in a foreign country that Bush 'choked' and that the US intelligence agencies weren't really sure about the election interference from one of our historical adversaries?

    And remember the uproar when, in the midst of a grueling campaign, Obama mistakenly said 57 states instead of 47 states. However, they seem to be perfectly happy with a president who thinks there are 3 intelligence agencies instead of 17. Perhaps if he actually paid attention at one of his security briefings, and if the briefings were not dumbed down (with pictures!) so a third grader could understand them, he might actually learn something about the government he's supposedly running.

    Six months. If he can do this much damage to our country, domestically and internationally, in SIX freaking months, how much will he be able to do if he manages to complete all 4 years?

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    1. Anonymous9:30 AM

      Obama didn't say there were 47 or 57 states. He knows perfectly well that there are 50 states, as everyone who grows up in Hawaii knows (they are #50), let alone graduated from Harvard Law.

      What Obama was referring to is that there are 57 entities represented in Congress.

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    2. Anonymous11:18 AM

      9:30-
      Actually, I've heard 2 different versions of that story. One was that he was including the US territories and the other that he simply said forty when he meant fifty.

      His actual quote was, “Over the last 15 months we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in fifty …. seven states? I think one left to go. One left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit but my staff would not justify it.”

      Based on his exact words, it would appear that he MEANT to say forty-seven but said fifty-seven by mistake.

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    3. Anonymous12:47 PM

      Wrong on all counts above. Wattch the fricking tape. He started to say we've been to all 50 states (on his campaign.) An aide off camera corrects him and he then says 47 (they evidently weren't going to AK or HI, which most campaigns don't as too far for too few votes, and one other.)
      Here's the clip from and with an explanation by SNOPES.

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    4. Anonymous8:46 PM

      12:47 -
      I DID watch 'the fricking tape' and he says exactly what was transcribed above - "fifty …. seven states?"

      I also read the explanation on Snopes and it says exactly what I wrote above -

      "in his weariness he slipped up and started off with “fifty” instead of “forty.” "

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  2. Anonymous9:00 AM

    OT?"Trump has said he is considering some
    “very severe things” in response to North Korea"

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/06/us-could-use-military-force-against-north-korea-says-nikki-haley?CMP=fb_gu

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  3. Anonymous9:06 AM

    I personally don't think that this reporter was "rude" as the headlines stated. I'm thinking more along the lines, that she was trying to get a definitive answer, and wasn't getting it.

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  4. Even his blatant lie makes no damn effing sense. [Obama did nothing because he thought Hillary would win]

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    1. Anonymous3:03 PM

      oh please, just what did you expect President Obama to do to get you "bern it to the ground" peeps to vote sanely? At some point you and yours are responsible for your own actions, own it bitch. You caused this not former President Obama.
      President Obama control how you thought or vote tell you how to vote but YOU chose to vote for the third party or tRump and are now living your vote. This is on YOU, no one else but you. Step the fuck up and take personal responsibility for your own fucking actions!

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  5. Anonymous9:13 AM

    Fifty states and seven territories.

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    1. Anonymous12:48 PM

      wrong, see above.

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    2. Anonymous2:05 PM

      So

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  6. Anonymous9:19 AM

    Trump’s disapproval rating nears 60 percent in new polls

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-disapproval-rating-nears-60-percent-in-new-polls/

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  7. Anonymous9:19 AM

    The Kremlin is already seizing on Trump's comments casting doubt that Russia meddled in the 2016 election

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-election-meddling-2017-7

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  8. Anonymous9:21 AM

    Trump Accused Of Holding A Fake News Conference In Poland

    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-election-meddling-2017-7

    Trump Uses Poland Event To Attack Obama, Press, And The CIA

    http://crooksandliars.com/2017/07/trump-uses-poland-speech-attack-obama

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    1. Anonymous11:19 AM

      Trump still doesn't have a clue that President Obama was very much liked by the heads of the European nations. Some of the media, and The Donald, are trying desperately to change the history books, but it's ain't gonna work!

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  9. Anonymous9:21 AM

    Rachel Maddow Destroys Trump’s ‘Inconceivable’ Decision To Give Putin A Face-To-Face Meeting

    Rachel Maddow obliterated Donald Trump on Wednesday, saying that no other president – Republican or Democrat – would have taken the “inconceivable” step of giving Russian President Vladimir Putin a sit-down meeting.

    Maddow said the administration’s decision to grant a bilateral, G20 meeting with the Russian president is “unimaginable,” and she laid out the many reasons why Trump shouldn’t show Putin that kind of respect.

    Video:

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/05/rachel-maddow-destroys-trumps-inconceivable-decision-give-putin-face-to-face-meeting.html

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  10. Anonymous9:32 AM

    “Nobody really knows,” he added, arguing that American intelligence agencies had made serious mistakes in the past, including an assessment before the United States-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 that Baghdad had weapons of mass destruction. “Nobody really knows for sure.”

    This also is a blatent twisting of the truth. The intelligence wasn't wrong, what happened is that Bush/Cheney ignored it and charged ahead with their war plans anyhow.

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    1. Anonymous1:41 PM

      Trump has never heard of Valerie Plane. FOX ignored all the opposing intelligence.

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  11. Anonymous9:43 AM

    What's killing me is that Donald is trying to kill our free press. We can't let it happen. We have to fight back. I'd hate for us to have jackals like people on fox, the korean and russian networks talking at us at how wonderful our president it when all he is is a two bit dictator like Putin and lil Kim whatsisface.

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  12. Anonymous10:17 AM

    Disgusting vermin eating us from the inside and outside. I want him to kick so badly, I don't care how anymore.

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    1. Anonymous3:21 PM

      You and me both. I guess we just have to wait.

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  13. Anonymous10:26 AM

    See how he stirs up a lot of mud in his answer...? "I think it could have been other people, other countries..." and garbled on. 'This is what I call the 'Salesman's Gish Gallop' and it's designed to throw you off your game and back on your heels. He's deflecting - as usual. Trying to create doubt as to 'whether Russia was at fault' by saying 'others [notice that he said "I won't be specific"- that's because he. Has. No. Proof!] were involved too!'
    Ditto his throwing President Obama into this mess.
    Lastly, anyone who paid attention to the Presidential debated knows that there are 17, not 3, intelligence agencies. Period. Trump was IN the debates and he doesn't remember? C'mooonnnnn!

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  14. Anonymous10:48 AM

    The photo of Poland prez and trump? gross. trump is standing there talking shit about the usa and the Poland prez is looking around like what a loser dumbshit.

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  15. Anonymous10:55 AM

    NO don. WE the people know who rigged and hacked the election and why.

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  16. Anonymous11:16 AM

    He so needs to be impeached! He's not representing the majority of us and continues to lie! Get rid of the asshole, America!

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  17. Anonymous11:32 AM

    Omg what a dumbass trump. Dumb as dumb can be!!!!
    Usa is crap. Fat orange dumbasd.

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  18. Anonymous11:33 AM

    Psyched..mattis...hahaha!!!!

    Impeach!!!

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  19. Anonymous11:52 AM

    This is the kind of confrontational behavior encouraged by the election of Trump.

    A family in Ohio was ordered to pay $10 to walk through a mall on Sunday. A group of Oath Keepers, which had opened up a storefront on the mall, was holding a survivalist event. They insisted that the family pay the fee even though they were just passing through the public areas of the mall. When they refused to pay, they were followed by members of the group.

    I tried to find news coverage with pictures of the family but was unable to do so. I'd bet money that the color of their skin was significantly darker than that of the militia members.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/they-had-no-qualms-violating-my-rights-ohio-mom-says-gun-militia-demanded-10-to-walk-through-mall/

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  20. Anonymous12:34 PM

    It is impossible to convince The Rum occupying the White House of anything. Convincing means using reasoned argument. The Rump lacks the intellectual capacity of rationality..

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  21. Anonymous12:57 PM

    I think the media are enjoying Trump's abject ignorance of all political issues and all executive functions. The frustration of his minions has turned to disgust and it's only a matter of time until they have to tie him up.

    btw I hope Melanija Knavs Trump and Ivanka Daddy's Masturbation Fantasy Trump get a large chunk of the odium since they have prostituted themselves so vigorously for it.

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    1. Anonymous2:56 PM

      Melanoma is only along for the the free ride and $$$$

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  22. Anonymous2:54 PM

    I was in the military fro 12 yrs, at some point the military is going to NOT support the current president.

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