Wednesday, July 12, 2017

Mother Jones points out that those Donald Trump Jr. emails seem to confirm claims from the Russian dossier.

Ex-MI6 agent Christopher Steele.
Courtesy of Mother Jones: 

One interesting element of the Donald Trump Jr. emails now in the news is that they track with parts of the Steele memos. 

In that first memo, dated June 20, Steele wrote that Trump “and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals.” The Trump Jr. email chain began on June 3, 2016. This was shortly after Trump had secured the Republican presidential nomination. It was that day that Rob Goldstone, a talent manager for middling pop-star named Emin Agaralov, contacted Trump Jr. and said that Emin’s father, Aras Agalarov, a Putin-friendly billionaire developer, had met with the “crown prosecutor of Russia” who offered to provide the Trump campaign with negative information on Clinton. The Agalarovs and Goldstone had a close relationship to the Trumps, because they all had worked together in 2013 to bring the Miss Universe pageant, which Trump owned at the time, to Moscow. (Part of the deal was that Emin would get to perform two songs.) Following that event, both Trumps worked with both Agalarovs to develop a major project in Moscow. (It never happened.) 

This email from Goldstone to Trump Jr. led to a meeting six days later, where a Kremlin-connected Russian attorney spoke to Trump Jr., Kushner, and Manafort about negative information on Clinton. In a statement, Trump Jr. says that what she offered was vague and meaningless, suggesting there was nothing to it. (But Trump Jr. has dissembled repeatedly about this meeting.) 

That is an excellent point.

We know what the meeting was supposed to be about from the emails that were released, but we only have Junior and the Russian attorney's word that no actual information was presented.

Knowing what we do about how the Trumps play fast and loose with the truth, that should certainly not be taken as factual.

Here's more to chew on from the Christopher Steele memo:

'Source A confided that the Kremlin had been feeding TRUMP and his team valuable intelligence on his opponents, including Democratic presidential candidate Hillary CLINTON, for several years…This was confirmed by Source D, a close associate of TRUMP who had organized and managed his recent trips to Moscow, and who reported, also in June 2016, that this Russian intelligence had been “very helpful”.'

The memo also reported that there was anti-Clinton information that Putin was sitting on: 

'A dossier of compromising material on Hillary CLINTON has been collated by the Russian intelligence services over many years and mainly comprises bugged conversations she had on various visits to Russia and intercepted phone calls rather than any embarrassing conduct. The dossier is controlled by Kremlin spokesman, PESKOV, directly on PUTIN’s orders. However it has not as yet been distributed abroad, including to TRUMP. Russian intentions for its deployment still unclear.'

There has been no confirmation that Putin steadily fed information to Trump’s camp or that a Kremlin-controlled anti-Clinton dossier existed. But one of Steele’s overarching points in this memo was that Putin’s regime was funneling derogatory Clinton material to Trump. The Trump Jr. emails suggest that the Russian government was aiming to do that and that the Trump campaign was willing and eager to receive assistance from Putin. So Donald Trump Jr. has done what Steele could not: produce evidence that the Trump campaign was—or wanted to be—in cahoots with a foreign adversary to win the White House.

I am somewhat skeptical that Putin actually had anything other than the DNC and Podesta email hacks to use against Hillary, as we would surely have seen anything else he had by now, and as we know essentially all of the most potentially damaging of those WERE dumped on the internet.

However we have no way of knowing, for sure, whether or not there was anything else gathered by the Russians that made its way to Trump campaign and was deemed too weak to use, or whose origins were to hard to explain.

But at the very least these emails from Trump Junior certainly confirms that, as the Steele dossier stated, Vladimir Putin wanted to help the Trump campaign, and the Trump campaign aggressively sought that help.

And that is no small confirmation. 


  1. Anonymous2:11 PM

    "We know what the meeting was supposed to be about from the emails that were released, but we only have Junior and the Russian attorney's word that no actual information was presented."

    For sure, this is a real possibility. And since it's reported that the conversation then turned to the Russian adoption matter, which is related to the sanctions put on Russia for human rights violations, it makes sense that 1. The info was actually valuable and 2. They then discussed how to pay for the info. Repeal the sanctions and get the bonus of restoring Russian adoptions. Spin it to seem like that is what it was all about. Makes sense to me.

    You know the Russians weren't just giving away the dirt on Hillary. They wanted something in return, quid pro quo. The quid and the quo were both discussed at this meeting.

    1. Olbermann makes a pretty good circumstantial case that Trump knew and information was passed.

  2. Anonymous2:38 PM

    If Putin had anything on Hillary he would have tried to use it as leverage. That's just the kinda guy he is. Down and dirty.
    You know how the Democrats were trying to keep their heads above the fray last summer by saying "when they go low, we go high". The Republicans have played dirty since day one.
    I see also, the Pat Robertson and co. are still in support of Trump. It's good confirmation to know that the so called Christians back the devil and his minion. It won't end well for any of them.

    1. I've been saying for years that they need to do away with that high and mighty high road crap. That didn't get them anywhere.

      Republicans fight dirty. The Democrats need to do what the Republicans do only more so and better. This is fighting fire with fire. Tit for tat. What's sauce for the goose.

      Republicans have made it pretty clear that choir boys and boy scouts don't get elected when they're running against the Big boys.

      Democrats need to stop turning up their noses on candidates like Alan Grayson. He has his faults but he is the kind of Democrat we need right now. We don't need nice guys. We need fighters with backbone.

  3. Anonymous2:39 PM

    So Donald your son is getting put through the wringer.

    Where are you going?

    What do you mean you're going to France for some real French Fries, none of that fake shit at McDonald's.

    What do you mean? American fries is not good enough for you and Ivanka?

    Ain't that some shit?

    1. Anonymous3:29 PM

      Don't kid yourself, The Donald eats those fries! Remember - he also loves the burgers (video is out showing him doing so!). It's no wonder he is obese - his diet is horrid. Plus, he likes soft drinks - can't recall which - Coke or Pepsi?

    2. Anonymous6:31 AM

      Donnie tinyhands is the kind of asshole who snarfs down 2 big-macs while drinking a diet coke.

  4. Anonymous2:44 PM

    My sister set up those Russian adoptions years ago (GAO). They were curtailed due to people with ill intent being able to adopt with basically no background checks. Its definitely a big mess now. I've heard talk of orphans organs being sold on the black market and even worse.

    1. Anonymous6:25 PM

      All that may - or may not - be true. But what is indisputable is that Putin ended all American adoptions of Russian kids in retaliation for the Magnitsky Act.

    2. Anonymous7:47 AM


  5. Anonymous2:53 PM

    drip #1, drip #2, drip #3

    Drip. Donald John Trump, Jr.
    Drip. Jared Corey Kushner
    Drip. Donald John Trump, Sr.

    1. Anonymous4:08 PM

      You forgot Drip. Ivanka Marie and Drip. Eric Frederick.

      Who is going to raise those kids? Grandma Ivana?

      Actually, she might be involved too........something about Trump sending her to Eastern Europe to negotiate Putin's blackmail terms. So that leaves the Trump daughters-in-law, Melania, Tiffany and Marla. I'd pick Marla, she at least had the sense to keep her daughter as far away from Trump as possible during childhood, and it was a good plan because Tiffany appears to be the only adult Trump child who isn't in danger of going to prison.

  6. Anonymous3:01 PM

    I still recall the cockiness behavior that trump
    Exhibited during debates!
    Just like he had already won, he could not contain himself.
    I believe he is ,and was a party to the Russian involvement. Hang the bastard and hang him high!

    1. Anonymous6:53 PM

      Why can't we be friends?

  7. Anonymous3:12 PM

    7/11/17 11:54 PM EDT Trump signed off on Trump Jr.’s first statement on Russia meeting: report.
    July 12, 2017, 6:10 PM President Trump says he didn't know until a couple of days ago that his son, Donald Trump Jr., met with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya during the presidential campaign last year.

    "I didn't know until a couple of days ago when I heard about this," he told Reuters in an interview Wednesday.

    1. Anonymous6:33 AM

      Amazing how dRumpf slides so conveniently between being all-knowing and being completely in the dark.

  8. Anonymous3:13 PM

    Is Trump a faithul honorable person, president, father and husband?

    Is Trump faithful to the United States of America?

    Was Trump faithful to Ivanna?

    Was Trump faithful to Marla?

    Was Trump faithful to Melania and did not receive a golden shower?

    If Ivanka allowed her father to have relations with her, would he have enough morals to say no you're my daughter and I'm married and faithful to my 3rd wife even though I sounded like a creepy father on the View and allowed Howard Stern to disparage my daughter in my presence and didn't tell Stern if you say one more thing about my daughter my blood, I will kick your ass up and down the Hudson?

    Will Trump be a faithful father to his son and not let his son take the fall by himself?

    Will Trump say I am 71 years old and lived my life? I will admit I was aware of everything and ask the law to have mercy on my son?

    1. Anonymous4:32 PM

      Yeah, trump will take the fall back, pointing his finger at his spineless arrogant little man. I had no idea, your fired!!! He did it! Of course he will Twitter it! Idiot!

    2. Anonymous6:29 PM

      Trump himself didn't actually get peed on himself. I've never met a germaphobe that's into piss-play :-)

      "According to the report, Trump allegedly rented the Presidential Suite at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel “where he knew President and Mrs. Obama (whom he hated) had stayed on one of their official trips to Russia.” The report goes on to say that Trump “defiled” the room by hiring prostitutes and having them “perform a ‘golden showers’ (urination) show in front of him.”

    3. Anonymous7:47 PM

      They are a close knit family. Donald trump & Ivanka Trump kissing scene.

      Daddy got me new tits.

      Weird Sexual Tension Donald

      Beauty biz. Trump and Agalarov

    4. Anonymous8:27 PM

      Trump and Mikhail Gorbachev.

    5. Anonymous7:51 AM

      432 Russia was "left behind" a century ago. Now its run by thugs and thieves. I would hate for a revolt to occur.
      Toss Putin into a volcano!

  9. Anonymous3:18 PM

    Our allies knows we have a truthful president and they can count on him to have their backs even against Putin. Enough already, this is all about nothing.

    1. Anonymous4:11 PM

      I think you're just "pulling legs "to try and get a reaction, because A) our allies appear to universally hate Trump, and B) even his most ardent supporters know that he's a pathological liar. They still love him, but they acknowledge the lies.

    2. Anonymous6:46 PM

      Just keep telling yourself that. It's fun to watch when the Trump team has to scramble almost daily to do damage control. That's been a daily thing for seven months.
      This man thrives on chaos and so do his followers. There will be no peace for America until they are all out.

    3. Anonymous7:59 PM

      He needs to fire his advisers. Ivanka and Jared. Steve Bannon isn't such a distraction.

  10. Anonymous3:25 PM

    Remember that embarrassing meeting with Trump's cabinet when they went around the table thanking Trump for every breath he allowed them to take? Do you think they would do that today?

    1. Anonymous3:53 PM

      If they want to keep their job. The 1st one was just a performance, they could do it again if they had to.

    2. Anonymous6:47 PM

      I honestly think they would still praise him. He's not their president, he's their god.

  11. Maddies Mom3:26 PM

    Did we know that Rebecca Mansour works for Breitbart? 7th Paragraph, 2nd sentence.

    1. Anonymous7:08 PM

      yes, we knew. Posted here in comments when it happened.

    2. Anonymous6:36 AM

      yeah, RAM needed an actual paying gig when $ister $ara couldn't afford to pay her for the ass-kissing anymore.

  12. Anonymous3:27 PM

    Putin has detested Hillary Clinton for years - especially during her term as Secretary of State under President Obama. Plus, Putin and President Obama couldn't stand each other.

    So, don't believe a thing that The Donald says about Hillary Clinton. He'll constantly lie when it comes to her! She won the majority vote and he still can't admit it! He's basically very jealous of her and her accomplishments throughout her years in government on the city, state and national levels.

    1. Anonymous6:49 PM

      Putin knew Hillary would clock him good. He was afraid. That's why he got that whining pussy elected.

  13. Anonymous3:31 PM

    Military parade? Where? Gas up Air Force One.

    Trump had no plans to attend France’s ‘Bastille Day’ — until he learned there was a military parade

    Apparently, all it takes is a military parade to get President Donald Trump to attend your country’s celebration.

    According to the Washington Post, the French had no expectation of Trump coming to their Bastille Day celebrations (their independence day, on July 14) during his visit — until French President Emmanuel Macron told him on a late June phone call that there would be a spectacular military showcase commemorating the day

    Read post

    1. Anonymous3:54 PM

      How come we didn't give President Trump a military parade with tanks, missiles, nuclear submarines and a military uniform on inauguration day?

    2. Anonymous4:49 PM

      Why Emmanuel Macron Dissed Donald Trump and Now Is Dining With Him
      The French president made clear he’s not America’s lapdog—which gives him more leeway to work with his U.S. counterpart.

    3. Anonymous6:23 PM

      Dictators famously love a good military parade!

    4. Anonymous6:42 PM

      Trump and wife will be dined at the Eiffel Tower. Great romantic photo op.

  14. Anonymous3:46 PM

    Bill Maher just called him Thurston Shitbag The Third. You GO, Bill!

    1. Anonymous6:37 AM

      yeah, Go, as in AWAY Forever.
      Or maybe just head out into the sunset with his good pals Milo Yianniopolous and Kellyanne COnway.

  15. Anonymous3:51 PM

    Trump and Melania just boarded Air Force One to Paris. This time he allowed Melania to walk up the stairs ahead of him. What changed since the day Trump ran up to the Obamas on inauguration day and left Melania's behind behind? Is Donald Jr, Jared and Ivanka going too or is Trump keeping his distance from them?

  16. Anonymous3:57 PM

    That's sad. Our president has to fly to Paris to see a military parade.

    1. Anonymous5:11 PM

      More than convinced that he was happy to get the hell out. That's okay, it will be waiting for him when he comes back.

  17. Anonymous4:06 PM

    Oh no. President Trump left Washington DC today to go to Paris to get away from the negative press, collusion accusations, hate and protests for a great quiet weekend in Paris. Is it too late to turn the jet around?

    The Hill
    July 11, 2017 - 10:54 AM EDT

    'No Trump Zone' planned by Paris protesters for Bastille Day celebrations

    Protesters in the “Paris Against Trump” group planned a “No Trump Zone” for Bastille Day celebrations in one of the biggest public areas in Paris, NBC reported.

    The “No Trump Zone” will be at the Place de la Republique the day before Bastille Day, and will include music and dancing. On the holiday on July 14, the activists will hold a march called "Don't Let Your Guard Down Against Trump" to show that they do not welcome the U.S. president in the city.

    Members of the activist group against Trump wrote on the event’s Facebook page that they do not approve of Trump’s policies on climate change, immigration and “his sexist, islamophobic and racist” policies.

    “For the people of France, who gave the Statue of Liberty to the American people, Trump is not welcome in Paris,” according to the post.

    The tone of the protests against President Trump come at a contrast to the planned celebrations for this year’s Bastille Day, as this year marks the 100-year anniversary of the U.S. entering World War II.

    1. Anonymous6:21 PM

      It's the centennial of the US entering World War I, not II.

    2. Anonymous6:55 PM

      Yeah tell France they will get sanctions as well. $$$

  18. Anonymous4:28 PM

    Trump's Christian and the real estate lawyers must know that every little note, phone record and email will be retrieved one day.
    Nowhere will there be any link to Trump knowing about the June 9th meeting with his top loyalists salivating over what Putin wanted the campaign to have on Hillary Clinton?
    The thing about investigations is that they aren't saying what they already have. They may already be able to link back to Trump and he is just clueless. Only Manafort knows what all he has told the committee, it is not all on public record.
    They will question Jared and Don Jr. when they are ready. Manafort and others may be more credible and have back up for what they are saying.

  19. Anonymous4:28 PM

    Look at this. Trump has always been a tool and an ass.

    Trump doesen't know ant Russians, right?

    Look at the idiot bragging about knowing Russians with a lot of money. This should be headline news, this is what he is an idiot sellout ego maniac.

    1. Anonymous4:38 PM

      He use to say he knew Putin. Don Jr bragged about all their business with rich Russians. Ivanka was used in Russia for the family fortune and to get close to the wealthy business men and Putin.

    2. Anonymous4:47 PM

      He use to say he knew Putin. Don Jr bragged about all their business with rich Russians. Ivanka was used in Russia for the family fortune and to get close to the wealthy business men and Putin.

    3. Anonymous6:09 PM

      One of Ivanka's besties is Wendy Deng, Rupert Murdoch's ex, who also dated Putin. The world's wealthiest elite are all thick as thieves, and always working on garnering more power, whatever it takes.

    4. Anonymous7:10 PM

      I forgot about Deng. Wendi Deng wrote about her 12-year friendship with Ivanka Trump, and how inspiring the 35-year-old mother-of-three is to her...

      Ivanka Trump as an example to young girls around the world


      Kushners. Lawyers hope to keep Jared away from President Trump now.

      NYT informs that Ivanka Trump and Rupert Murdoch's ex-wife, former lover of Tony Blair and rumored to be a current lover of Vladimir Putin, Wendi Deng

      An unsubstantiated rumor has the Internet crossing its fingers.

      Emin Agalarov, Trumps

      Mama Mia! Just remember: the woman is 60!

    5. Anonymous7:24 PM

    6. Anonymous6:39 AM

      Chelsea Clinton is still BFF with Ivanka.
      Don't forget that.

  20. Anonymous4:35 PM

    OT - AP has a story about Trump's imaginary friend "Jim".


  21. Anonymous4:55 PM

    Tomorrow Mitch McConnell is rolling out TrumpCare ?.0 (lost track of the number of revisions)

    Why is Trump leaving America when McConnell needs Trump's help to solicit Congressional support for his healthcare and Jared needs Trump's help keeping him out of prison?

    You ask what about Donald Jr? What about Donald Jr?

    1. Trump *is* helping McConnell BY leaving the country.

  22. Anonymous5:06 PM

    Remember that picture of Sarah Palin with people laying hands on her?

    Well there's a picture below of people laying hands on Trump in the Oval Office.

    Those two are a riot.

    Trump seen bowing in prayer during Oval Office session

    1. Anonymous6:57 PM

      Be careful what you wish for! What happened to Sarah? She went mad cow!

    2. Anonymous8:06 PM

      Watching Sarah's fake x-tianity take her down was kinda fun to watch. God knows fakes, and we're only 6 months into nmp.

  23. Anonymous5:20 PM

    GOP Senator: Intel Committee Knew In April That Kushner Met Russian Lawyer

    US intel agents heard Russian officials discussing Trump associates as early as Spring 2015: report

    REVEALED: Kremlin spokesperson asked in 2016 about hacked DNC emails deferred the question to Trump Jr.

  24. Anonymous5:23 PM

    Is this the guy in charge of getting peace in the Middle East? How's that working out?

    Business Insider:
    Trump's personal attorneys are reportedly fed up with Jared Kushner Bryan Logan Jul 11, 2017, 11:49 PM ET

    Trump's personal attorneys are reportedly fed up with Jared Kushner

  25. Anonymous5:24 PM

    Anybody heard from Donald Trump Jr's defender? Eric has been awfully quiet.

    1. Anonymous5:36 PM

      Eric is basking in his promotion.

  26. Anonymous5:49 PM

    Being rich doesn't make life better.

    Next time you look at Ivanka with her hair up, check out her neck. That is the longest skinniest neck I've ever seen.

    What's up with Eric and Ivanka's teeth?

    Check out Ivanka's breast when she's wearing a revealing neckline. Man her breasts are solid. Does not look normal. Neither does her teeth.

    1. Anonymous6:06 PM

      They're all built like their father and look like someone broke into a morgue and built them out of parts from 10 different people. Strangest body types I've ever seen.

      Lotta weird genes in the Trump woodpile.

    2. Anonymous6:32 PM

      Ivanka has had all sorts of work done. She's half plastic.

      However, being poor is better than being rich said no one who's been both EVER.

      "I've been rich and I've been poor. Rich is better." - Sophie Tucker

    3. Anonymous6:52 PM

      Been noticing that they talk funny too. Watch their mouths. It's weird. Maybe they are the aliens that Alex Jones is always blathering about.

    4. Anonymous7:11 PM

      That's a good explanation. I think Ivanka is part emu and part giraffe.

    5. Anonymous7:16 PM

      sick fucks

    6. Anonymous11:10 PM

      It's funny to me that Blond Donald and blond Ivanna produced Don JR.He is short,small boned,swarthy.Nothing like the long legged blue eyed blonds that are the rest of the family.

  27. Anonymous7:01 PM


    Mothers and daughters sharing clothing - normal. I thought nothing of Sarah and the 3 girls trading clothes as soon as the girls were HS age.

    But Todd and Track are the first father son I've seen who share clothing.

    1. Anonymous8:46 PM

      Chelsea and Ivanka

  28. Anonymous7:01 PM

    to continue, Track was wearing Todd's shirt and blazer at that wedding they all attended in WA state.

    1. Anonymous1:00 AM

      When and where was this?

  29. Anonymous7:24 PM


    The Last Word With Lawrence O'Donnell



    ● $230,000,000 case settled for $6,000,000 by Attorney General Jeff Sessions right before the trial is to have started.
    - $230 million Russian tax-fraud scheme and the Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky

    ● Something about Russian money laundering scheme and high end New York apartments

    ● Preet Bharara was the prosecutor in this case coincidentally fired by new president President Trump. I believe they said something about this scheme and Trump?

    ● Involved Magnitsky Act
    - Sergei L. Magnitsky, a lawyer and auditor who died in mysterious circumstances in a Russian prison in 2009 after exposing one of the biggest corruption scandals during Mr. Putin’s rule.

    ● Natalia Veselnitskaya the lawyer involved with this case (we know who she is)

    ● House Democrats want to know why a major Russian money-laundering case was abruptly settled
    (See link below)

    Is Attorney General Jeff Sessions a loyal soldier of President Trump who got rid of this case after Trump fired Preet Bharara?

  30. Anonymous8:22 PM

    Don Jr.

    Donald Trump watching TV

  31. Anonymous9:42 PM

    Tonight, Lawrence O'Donnell of The Last Word, had a lot to say about Jared Kushner and his felon family. Jared had to save his own butt and his attorneys had him leak to get the Donald Jr. meeting and emails out. It gives Jared and Ivanka time. They go to 'Disneyland'. Actually Sun Valley.

    It will be interesting to see who wants to do business with Jared next.
    Who will loan him money?

    I guess we'll see the happy Trump family in the White House for their first Christmas in DC. Donald's three children with Ivana, his daughter with Marla and all their children will join their dad, Melania and Barron. Merry Christmas.


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