Monday, July 17, 2017

Trump attorney suggests that Donald Trump Jr. meeting with Russians was not nefarious because Secret Service did not interfere. SS crushes that argument.

So this is the argument put forward by Trump attorney Jay Sekulow on various Sunday news program yesterday.

On its face it is kind of ridiculous since the Secret Service is supposed to protect candidates and their families from physical harm, not stupid choices.

However as it turns out the SS has an even better reason why they did not protect Junior from himself.

Courtesy of The Hill: 

The Secret Service responded on Sunday to President Trump’s personal lawyer Jay Sekulow’s claim that Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with a Russian lawyer during the campaign would not have happened if the Secret Service had considered it “nefarious.” 

“If this was nefarious, why'd the Secret Service allow these people in?” Sekulow asked on ABC’s “This Week.” 

"The president had Secret Service protection at that point," he said. "That raised a question with me.” However, that protection did not extend to Trump Jr. at the time, according to the Secret Service. 
"Donald Trump, Jr. was not a protectee of the USSS in June, 2016. Thus we would not have screened anyone he was meeting with at that time,” Secret Service spokesman Mason said in a statement to Reuters on Sunday.

So to be clear so far the line of defense for Junior taking this meeting are that Hillary Clinton may have received town hall questions early and the not yet assigned Secret Service agents did not stop the Russians from meeting with Donnie Jr, Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort.

This is all like an SNL skit come to life.


  1. A plus B equals... potato?

    1. Anonymous11:37 PM

      A plus chartreuse equals potato

  2. Anonymous6:47 AM

    One major important factor in all of this is that the name Trump even Trump campaign staff or Trump administration is synonymous with the word "liar". Trump junior has told different versions of this meeting demonstrating he is not to be believed.

    They seem to want us to believe it was merely coincidental that Russia hacked the emails while actively dismissing the facts as fake news. Nice try by the lawyer to use the SS erroneously as proof nothing nefarious occurred.

    I am hopeful there is enough solid evidence to demonstrate illegal offenses by the Trump advisors approved by Trump.

    1. Anonymous10:55 AM

      The thing is, though, the message from the lawyer is not intended for us, but for his mouthbreathing minions, in whose' eyes the orange abomination can do no wrong!
      THAT is the dangerous thing, because he is laying the basis for them to get rid of Muller and of other people who are - at the moment - standing in their way to usurp a dic(k)tatorship right here in the US!

  3. Anonymous6:50 AM

    Annnnd... this one, peddled by @JaySekulow on all the Sunday shows today, was a lie too.

    Rinat Akhmetshin, the potential Russian spy who met Donald Trump Jr., explained

    Flynn Seeks Sanctuary From Russia Interference Scandal In Hometown Surf

  4. Anonymous6:54 AM

    So the SS said they were not involved with Junior. They did not say they were not at that meeting. Could it be they were there because Trump was there? Oh the shear speculatlion going on on my part. Time will tell.

    1. Anonymous7:47 AM

      trump didn't need to be physically in the room - there whole meeting room has video chat and wifi capabilities - he could have participated from any room in the building or just been listening in with only his son knowing he was (thus keeping up the pretense of deniability)

    2. Anonymous8:00 AM

      RumInt has it the other guy there was John Bannon.... aka Trump Sr.

    3. You mean John Barron?

    4. Anonymous10:09 AM

      @7:47 aka john Barron miller?

  5. Anonymous6:57 AM

    Trump’s Nightmares Are All Coming True As Visitor Logs To Be Released For Mar-a-Lago

    1. Anonymous7:59 AM

      Will they be the original visitor logs, or the alternate facts logs? What kind of ID do members have to provide? Wouldn't surprise me at all that Trump has more than one visitor log. Sad!

    2. Anonymous11:29 AM

      Russian Ogliarchs?

      Tell them deportation is soon!

      Tell them Turkey can help.

      Behead all the Traitors!

      Good idea!

      He's not heavy.

      He's my Brother!

  6. Anonymous7:00 AM

    Team Trump’s Latest Defense: Collusion Is Good
    We should be “colluding” more, not less.

    It is now clear that President Donald Trump’s campaign sought anti-Hillary Clinton dirt from Kremlin-linked Russians, and that he’s been shamelessly lying about it for a year.

    So what is Team Trump supposed to say now? It is not enough to argue that Donald Trump Jr.’s 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a gamey duo of Kremlin-connected individuals wasn’t strictly illegal. Arguing the fine points of law is not how a buzz saw cuts through plywood.

    He could have tried to distance himself from the meeting, saying that his son had made a mistake. Instead, in his usual have-it-both-ways style, he said both that he hadn’t known about it and that “most people” would have done the same thing.

    It also was specious to argue, as Trump attorney Jay Sekulow did on Sunday, that the U.S. Secret Service had no objection to the meeting. Trump Jr. wasn’t a “protectee” of the agency at that point.

    No, you have to attack the attackers. But how? Well, Trump’s allies are doubling down on what others see as his weakness, arguing in effect that colluding with Russian President Vladimir Putin is what America should do.

    In other words, yes, there are witches, but they are good witches.

    As a matter of political strategy, this line isn’t as laughable as it sounds. Once again Trump may have more street sense than his enemies. Old-fashioned, ICBM-era Cold War rhetoric has lost its potency, and Trump’s cynical retro-realpolitik will sell with the only constituency he cares about: his hardcore voters.

    Trump’s allies are doubling down on what others see as his weakness, arguing in effect that colluding with Russian President Vladimir Putin is what America should do.

    The president began the pivot both behind closed doors and in plain sight in Hamburg, Germany. Minimally appeasing his critics, he privately raised with Putin the issue of Russia’s documented interference in the 2016 election. Putin – surprise! – stoutly denied it all; Trump, by his own account, all but shrugged his shoulders and moved on.

    No blood, no foul, as they say on the playground courts of Palm Beach.

    Then Trump vowed to “move forward in working constructively with Russia,” and suggested a joint cybersecurity task force so naïvely dangerous that even Republicans blanched.

    The president’s own rhetoric is only one indicator of where the new message is headed, and where in the political substrata it’s coming from.

  7. Anonymous7:00 AM

    Next excuse will be ... they were just tourist wandering through Trump tower and we don't know why they came into the meeting.

  8. Anonymous7:01 AM

    Russia Spent A Fortune Shilling For Trump – And May Not Have Broken Any Laws
    U.S. election laws never contemplated a foreign power inventing fake news and spreading it on the internet to influence an election.

  9. Anonymous7:10 AM

    Yeah, sure... most political campaigns would have meetings with Russian government operatives. Ask Manafort, he had an eye on good boy Junior, and kept his dad up with all they were doing.

    7:07 AM - 17 Jul 2017 @realDonaldTrump

    Did Donald Trump’s lawyer accidentally make a huge confession about the meeting with the Russian lawyer?

    1. The question is, why is the media focusing on Jr. and Kushner and forgetting Manafort. He was THERE. And he was campaign manager at the time.

  10. Anonymous7:25 AM

    Now will we get to know who he '$pys' on....

  11. Anonymous7:39 AM

    "April 2016 hearing that Turkos frequently pointed his gun at the brothers to frighten them, sometimes while on duty.

    Turkos — who has a criminal record dating back to 2008 — agreed to plead guilty in June to misdemeanor corruption of minors charges after prosecutors agreed to withdraw two other charges, involuntary sexual intercourse with a child and indecent assault of a person under 13. The abuse came to light after an older sibling saw the older boy perform a sex act on his brother, who was 9."

  12. Anonymous7:52 AM

    It's always someone else's fault. It's very tiring to hear this constant deflection. No one but his stupid supporters will end up still believing him. The sycophants who have attached themselves to him knowing full well who and what he is, will go down with him. If we have patience and continue to resist, it will payoff by Trump and the Republican Party forever being tarnished.

  13. Anonymous7:56 AM

    Trumps attorney is well known with evangelical Xians.

    1. Anonymous11:30 AM

      Well tell him God's Will is coming down the pike! Amen!

  14. Anonymous7:59 AM

    ● Department of Homeland Security is releasing MAR-A-LAGO Visitors Log because of litigation

    The Hill
    July 17, 2017 - 10:23 AM EDT

    Ethics watchdog to release Mar-a-Lago visitor logs

    Government watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) will be making public visitor logs to President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort starting this fall.

    CREW on Monday announced that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) will turn over visitor logs to Trump’s property by Sept. 8 as part of ongoing litigation with the group, who in turn will make them public......

    1. Anonymous8:19 AM

      I can't help but wonder how the Visitor Logs will have been altered. Trump is so unworthy of trust, I do not think the logs will be accurate! I'm sure there have been visitors at his place in Florida that he doesn't want known or published to Americans.

      The same would apply as to his visitors to Trump Towers!

      We already know he is a liar and fraud!

    2. Get real.

      Not everyone signed those logs.

  15. Anonymous8:04 AM

    This lawyer has a sordid past.He was involved in a "christian"org. and he bilked people out of millions. Just the kind of "high quality" person trump associates with.He better hope he got paid in advance.

  16. Anonymous8:09 AM

    Go to and leave a messeage for the faux POTUS. Complain about Made in America week while he and Princess manufacture everything abroad. Yes, you have to leave your name, but who cares? Let him know we are NOT fooled by his bravado and lies.

    1. Be prepared to have all of your personal info published by the White House along side your complaint.

    2. Anonymous11:04 AM

      Make sure you have an email account ONLY for the WH comments, and also make sure you put no personal identifications in that email!
      Remember, the WH publishes anything they want to on their website - including names, addresses and phone numbers of private citizens!

  17. Anonymous8:22 AM

    ● FOLLOW UP TO 7:59


    White House Visitors Log KEPT SECRET!

    WHITE HOUSE (TRUMP) SAYS IT IS FOR NATIONAL SECURITY (Yeah right). Trump probably doesn't want us to see who Trump invites (Russians) to see him.

    The Hill:
    White House to Keep Its Visitor Logs Secret

    APRIL 14, 2017

    WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — The White House announced Friday that it would cut off public access to visitor logs revealing who is entering the White House complex and which officials they are meeting, breaking with the Obama administration’s practice and returning a cloak of secrecy over the basic day-to-day workings of the government.

    The decision — which White House officials said was necessary for reasons of national security — was the latest attempt by President Trump, who has promised to “drain the swamp” in Washington, to shield his activities from scrutiny. It effectively bars the public from knowing which activists, lobbyists, political donors and others are gaining access to the president and his aides on a daily basis.

    It also is a stark reversal from the policy adopted by President Barack Obama, who voluntarily released more than six million White House visitor records, even as his administration fought successfully in federal court for the right to keep some of the information secret....

    1. Anonymous11:31 AM

      Why isn't Tramp swinging his hips yet with all this dancing around. Y A W N...

  18. Anonymous8:33 AM

    Rob Goldstone, publicist behind Trump Jr. meeting, reportedly in fear and hiding in plain sight

    Fox News - 2 hours ago

  19. Anonymous8:36 AM

    Daily Mail:

    Rob Goldstone fears 'death' in Russiagate scandal

    1 day ago

    1. Anonymous10:50 AM

      I think more than Goldstone should be worried about their demise. Too much hate out there - led by The Donald himself! What a mess our country is in currently! We are nearing a frightful catastrophe!

    2. Try the Sun, They had photos of naked yoga practitioners. The lead blonde wasn't just too shabby.

  20. Anonymous10:04 AM

    This guy is so incompetent. Trump is hiring the D Team. He needs an ex Federal Prosecutor and not a criminal lawyer. The laws are not the same. He needs an expert who knows the nuances. Each word and deed can dig Trump deeper into the hole. It's like having a tax attorney work on a marriage case or a general practitioner working as a surgeon. Sure, the understand the field but they are not experts. Mueller and his team must be laughing at this.

  21. Anonymous10:26 AM

    Ever notice the similarities between Trump excuses and the horseshit spewed at the Pee Pond to defend Palin over the last 8 years. I'm beginning to believe Trump relies on website comments to shape his defense.

  22. How the hell does this shit fer brains attorney-Sea cow or Suckulow ever get a license to practice law?

    A Magic 8 Ball could give better advice.


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