Speaking during a visit to the South American nation of Colombia, Pence said that it was appropriate to criticize not only the white supremacists behind the "Unite the Right" march but also counter-protesters on the scene.
"I will say I take issue with the fact that many in the national media spent more time criticizing the president’s words than they did criticizing those that perpetrated the violence to begin with," he said, speaking in a joint news conference with Colombia's president, Juan Manuel Santos.
"We should be putting the attention where it belongs, and that is on those extremist groups that need to be pushed out of the public debate entirely and discredited for the hate groups and dangerous fringe groups that they are."
It should be pointed out that today Trump took to Twitter to attack the Democrats for being "obstructionists" and Ken Frazier for leaving his Manufacturing Council (By the way he's a black guy who is quitting specifically BECAUSE of Trump's weak ass response to the violence in Virginia.) , but not a word about the murder in Charlottesville.
As for the press, virtually every single newscaster and commentator, who was not appearing on Fox News, has condemned the White Nationalists who beat protesters and murdered that young woman in the strongest terms.
These statements by Mike Pence, which also attempts to blame "both sides" for the violence, proves that he is almost as bad as his boss.
However he did at least say this:
"We have no tolerance for hate and violence from white supremacists, neo-Nazis or the KKK. These dangerous fringe groups have no place in American public life and in the American debate, and we condemn them in the strongest possible terms," he said.
This kind of forced Trump's hand so today he finally came out with this:
Damn talk about too late to the party.Trump: "Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, Neo-Nazis, & White Supremacists" pic.twitter.com/pYnjQXDvyU— Axios (@axios) August 14, 2017
But now the question is "What is he going to do about it?"
Under the leadership of Trump and Pence the focus has been taken off of homegrown hate groups like the KKK and Neo-Nazis, and they have clearly grown stronger and prospered as a result.
If Mike Pence and Donald Trump really want to do something to prevent this kind of tragedy from happening again they need to stop focusing all of their counter terrorism efforts on Islamic terrorists and recognize that White Nationalists pose as great, if not a greater threat to this country.
Fox News Asks This Man For Pictures Of New York Solidarity March – His Response Is PRICELESS
ReplyDeletehttp://addictinginfo.com/2017/08/13/fox-news-asks-this-man-for-pictures-of-new-york-solidarity-march-his-response-is-priceless/
This is a young man that makes me proud to be an American! He truly stepped up and let Fox News exactly what he, and millions of others, think about FN. Kudos to him!
DeleteYou can be sure Fox wanted to use the ones that said "Honor the Dead. Fight like hell" and "Smash White Supremacy" to back up the Alt-right's spin that it is the left that is violent and that it was the counter protestors that brought weapons, itching for a fight and that they started it. That is the spin all of the White Supremacist outlets are saying. Fox will just support their little nazi myth that they are the oppressed and those mean lefties beat up on them. They want pictures of those signs and the arrests the NYC made of the Anti-Fascist protestors.
DeletePretty soon they'll have that Nazi asshole just driving down the street minding his own business when Heyer threw herself under his car and then he was attacked by the rest of the protestors. He was just backing up to get away from them because he was scared for his life.
Just watch for the spin. Sinclair will make it happen.
What is the best Twitter response from Keegan's account?
"Still more than at Trump's inauguration."
Oh, I hope Jon Oliver is paying attention.
Here's a little something for relief, Gryph.
ReplyDeleteIt's a white moose.
Thankfully he is in Sweden or our Deplorables would already be out there with guns looking to kill him.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rare-white-moose_us_5991f39de4b09071f69bc804?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-malawi-albinos-hunted-2017-story.html
DeleteThank you, Anonymous Asshat, for ruining a lovely moosely distraction.
DeleteDo you also refuse to eat birthday cake because of the germs and pontificate about factoring farming at Thanksgiving? You must be a barrel of laughs at Christmas.
By all means, squeeze all of the joy out of life.
Barack Obama's message of unity after a far-right, white supremacist event in Virginia descended into deadly violence has become the third most ‘liked’ tweet in history.
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/896523232098078720
Delete"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion..."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/barack-obama-charlottesville-violence-neo-nazi-racist-nelson-mandela-white-supremacist-no-one-born-a7892131.html
Tied!
Deletehttp://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/14/trumps-white-support-collapses-1st-term-approval-rating-obama.html
He only spoke because he twitter shamed about it.
ReplyDeleteNot that he is really capable of shame tho.
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ReplyDeleteEx-KKK Leader David Duke Has Meltdown After Trump Condemns White Supremacists In Charlottesville
“President Trump, please, for God’s sake, don’t feel like you need to say these things. It’s not going to do you any good.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/david-duke-trump-charlottesville_us_5991d6bae4b08a2472764798?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
hahahahahaha!
DeleteI called it.
They'd interpret as Trump being strong armed to say it.
OT family harm and threats resulting from actions of nazi, white supremacist family member. This kid sounds like a psychopath.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/you-will-have-to-shovel-our-bodies-into-the-oven-too-father-of-charlottesville-neo-nazi-disowns-him/?comments=disqus
" “It was the silence of good people that allowed the Nazis to flourish the first time around, and it is the silence of good people that is allowing them to flourish now,” he wrote. "
DeleteNot to mention the silence of the president.
All Peter Teft needs is a bit of a trim and a little mustache.
White Nationalists Are Lovin’ Trump’s Delayed Condemnation Of Hate Groups
ReplyDeletehttp://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/white-nationalists-praise-trump-charlottesville-response-condemned-counter-protesters
Pence stands with Trump. Just because he says things like KKK doesn't change what he is complicit with. Somehow we are to suffer the next 3.5 years until these 2 shady dudes are out?
ReplyDeleteFOX News
ReplyDeleteTrump 'seriously considering' a pardon for ex-Sheriff Joe Arpaio
6 hours ago
" the ISIS magazine Rumiyah wrote in November 2016, “very few actually comprehend the deadly and destructive capability of the motor vehicle and its capacity of reaping large numbers of casualties if used in a premeditated manner.”>
Delete“Run them over” is a popular anti-BLM catchphrase, as this Tumblr by historian Liam Hogan demonstrates." “When encountering such mobs remember, there are 3 pedals on your floor. Push the right one all the way down.”
In January 2016, a police sergeant in St. Paul, Minnesota, was suspended after allegedly posting a comment on an article about a Martin Luther King Jr. Day march, instructing drivers: “Run them over. Keep traffic flowing and don’t slow down for any of these idiots who try and block the street.”Troy Baker, president of the police union in Santa Fe, New Mexico, shared an image from the “Prepare to Take America Back” Facebook page, a right-wing meme factory with links to conspiracy theories. “All lives splatter: Nobody cares about your protest,” it reads over an image of a jeep plowing through a crowd."Across the country, Republicans legislators have attempted to codify the idea that protesters surrender their rights when they stand in the road. The philosophy behind these bills was elucidated by Keith Kempenich, a trucking company CEO and North Dakota state legislator whose mother-in-law was stopped by a Dakota Access Pipeline protest. “There’s a line between protesting and terrorism, and what we’re dealing with was terrorism out there,” he told the Washington Post. “[Drivers] who were legally doing their business or just going home and all of a sudden they’re in a situation they don’t want to be in.”, a Massachusetts patrolman commented on Facebook: “Hahahaha love this, maybe people shouldn’t block road ways.”
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/metropolis/2017/08/driving_into_crowds_of_protesters_was_a_right_wing_fantasy_long_before_charlottesville.html
Oh, just FUCK.
DeleteConfederate flags and Nazi swastikas together? That’s new. Here’s what it means.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/14/confederate-flags-and-nazi-swastikas-together-thats-new-heres-what-it-means/
DIED IN PARIS>
Deletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/the-latest-officials-car-drove-into-patrons-intentionally/2017/08/14/8b1e34de-812e-11e7-9e7a-20fa8d7a0db6_story.html?utm_term=.bb53e8a45125
"Police say a 13-year-old girl was killed and her younger brother received life-threatening injuries when a driver steered his car into a pizzeria east of Paris."
Once more, blocked.
DeletePlease don't waste our time with links to the Washington Post. It's paid subscription only.
2:24, I don't know where to even start. But I'll tr. I only wish I hadn't seen your comment a day late.
Delete1. Please don't try to dictate what others can post on Gryphen blog - it may be your opinion that providing a link to a subscribed newspaper is a "waste," but you certainly don't speak for all of us so don't try to dictate what links are appropriate on Gryphen's blog. And remember, Gryphen, too, links to subscription sites (e.g. NYT).
2. I appreciate links to ANY legitimate news source....and can read. So if I see a link to a source I don't like, I don't click. You, too, can skip any you want.
3. You get 5 free articles a month. You must have used yours up.
4. Most major printed newspapers with websites are now paid subscription (with typically a number of free articles per month). The NYT, WaPo are just two of them that require subscription after 5 free access articles per month.
5. We'd all be in bigger Sh$t if we didn't have NYT (requires a subscription) reporting....we owe them a huge debt for exposing secret meetings
6. Try supporting real journalists for s change. Subscriptions aren't that expensive for a month online. Remember when Trump tried to shut down NYT reporter, many progressives promoted supporting these journalists by asking us all to subscribe. Gryphen even reminded us on February 27th by writing in regards to the NYT "And the more attacks Trump lobs their way the more subscriptions they sell. I have one, do you?"
White supremacists didn’t just arrive in Charlottesville. They’ve always been there.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/08/14/white-supremacists-didnt-just-arrive-in-charlottesville-theyve-always-been-there/
https://thinkprogress.org/days-after-white-house-adviser-dismissed-oklahoma-city-bombing-feds-disrupt-mcveigh-inspired-plot-d61827dd0731/
Delete"in 1995. Gorka, however, suggested that the Oklahoma City was ancient history, and that McVeigh is not the sort of person we should be worried about in 2017."Gorka’s take was bad at the time — he overlooked data indicating that over a nearly 14 year span following the 9/11 attacks, a person in America was much more likely to be killed by a right-wing extremist than a Muslim."“In one conversation he said he believed in the ‘Three Percenter’ ideology — a form of anti-government activism that pledges resistance against the United States government on the belief it has infringed on the Constitution, according to court papers,” the Post adds. “Those who subscribe to the ideology incorrectly believe that only 3 percent of the colonial population participated in the American Revolution, and they see themselves as their heirs.” Varnell’s arrest “is another somber reminder that, as a nation, we must remain vigilant about home-grown extremism and radicalization in our communities.”
Russian flavors since 1914.
DeleteGerman flavor since 1917.
And you let it happen...
Well good luck with all that!
How the world is reacting to violence in Charlottesville
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PENCE IS THINKING ABOUT 2020
ReplyDeleteHE NEEDS TRUMP'S BASE
"...Pence said that it was appropriate to criticize not only the white supremacists behind the "Unite the Right" march but also counter-protesters on the scene...."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/08/14/on-twitter-trump-accuses-blacks-of-racism-three-times-as-often-as-whites/?utm_term=.b7c0ed1b6700
DeleteWaiting for Sarah Palin and Barstool to standup for the young lady who was murdered in Charlottesville. Just like Trump, Sarah will not go against her base.
ReplyDeleteNo they encourage murder and mayhem. Call it Gods Will. Then expect payment.
DeleteWith hands out, butts up.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/14/google-cancels-nazi-website-daily-stormers-registration-godaddy-booted-racists.html
ReplyDelete"First, GoDaddy booted the Nazi website Daily Stormer, and now Google has canceled the registration of the site after the racists tried to relocate there."
Eventually they'll make their own hosting site and registration. The FCC will help them. Head is a Trump lapdog like the rest of his cabinet.
Deletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/white-nationalist-richard-spencer-taunts-counter-protesters-we-could-have-killed-them-with-our-bare-hands/
ReplyDelete"Commenting on the president’s statement Monday finally disavowing white nationalists, Spencer said “only a dumb person would take those lines seriously.”
“Its just silliness,” Spencer said,. “It’s not serious and I don’t think anyone takes it seriously including the president.”"
"If Mike Pence and Donald Trump really want to do something to prevent this kind of tragedy from happening again"
ReplyDelete-------------------
They don't, so no need to waste your breath on suggestions.
Ok so mobs, thugs, bullies, kkk, Nazis, white supremes, evil dictators, Russians, tea bags, constitutional sheriffs, militias, hackers, scammers, bots, liars and the illiterate and ignorant support don john trump? What did we miss?
ReplyDeleteMr trump cannot denounce the people from his campaign rallies. He ordered them to Get them, hit them in the face, Get um out, lock them up. A bully and liar cheats and hurts all of us. Stand together and RESIST.
ReplyDeleteThe way Pence looks at Trump reminds me of the way Michelle Duggar looks at JimBob Duggar--a look of utter adoration. ICK!
ReplyDeleteIf you researched your American DNA family, you will find about half of your relatives were in the Union and the other half Confederates. People fought for various reasons and was confused as we are today. A good book and movie Amistad and another book white cargo. The history is important. We cannot erase, nor can we return to confusion. It is clear that our ancestors fought for what they believed they needed. Some white Europeans brought knowledge, skills and goods. Others brought hate, anger and violence. We should focus on the history and explain it not destroy it. I don't agree with ripping down statues or disrespecting history. I agree that we should add to each monument the rebuttal.
ReplyDeleteOr you will find Russian DNA. Or German. Or both.
DeleteOops. Damn those DNA tests.
:-() funny how it exhumed graves in Russia. Cough.
Yawn. Wake me up when an American gets a beat down in Germany for being an ass. Oh wait it happened.
Haha. Thumbs up humanity!
Go get em. Bahaha. Smile.