Monday, September 18, 2017

Trump lawyers overheard during lunch conversation discussing friction between legal teams and how much to cooperate with the various investigations.

Courtesy of the New York Times:  

Mr. McGahn supports cooperation, but has expressed worry about setting a precedent that would weaken the White House long after Mr. Trump’s tenure is over. He is described as particularly concerned about whether the president will invoke executive or attorney-client privilege to limit how forthcoming Mr. McGahn could be if he himself is interviewed by the special counsel as requested. 

The friction escalated in recent days after Mr. Cobb was overheard by a reporter for The New York Times discussing the dispute during a lunchtime conversation at a popular Washington steakhouse. Mr. Cobb was heard talking about a White House lawyer he deemed “a McGahn spy” and saying Mr. McGahn had “a couple documents locked in a safe” that he seemed to suggest he wanted access to. He also mentioned a colleague whom he blamed for “some of these earlier leaks,” and who he said “tried to push Jared out,” meaning Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, who has been a previous source of dispute for the legal team. 

After The Times contacted the White House about the situation, Mr. McGahn privately erupted at Mr. Cobb, according to people informed about the confrontation who asked not to be named describing internal matters. John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, sharply reprimanded Mr. Cobb for his indiscretion, the people said. 

Mr. Cobb sought to defuse the conflict in an interview over the weekend, praising Mr. McGahn as a superb lawyer. “He has been very helpful to me, and whenever we have differences of opinion, we have been able to work them out professionally and reach consensus,” Mr. Cobb said. “We have different roles. He has a much fuller plate. But we’re both devoted to this White House and getting as much done on behalf of the presidency as possible.” 

The conversation also included discussion of how much information to provide to the various Russia probes.:

The suspicion within the legal team seemed evident in the lunch conversation Mr. Cobb had last week with Mr. Dowd at BLT Steak, not far from the White House and a few doors down from The Times’s office. A reporter who happened to be at the next table heard Mr. Cobb describing varying views of how to respond to Mr. Mueller’s requests for documents. 

“The White House counsel’s office is being very conservative with this stuff,” Mr. Cobb told Mr. Dowd. “Our view is we’re not hiding anything.” Referring to Mr. McGahn, he added, “He’s got a couple documents locked in a safe.” Mr. Cobb expressed concern about another White House lawyer he did not name. “I’ve got some reservations about one of them,” Mr. Cobb said. “I think he’s like a McGahn spy.” 

While Mr. Cobb advocated turning over documents to Mr. Mueller, he seemed sensitive to the argument that they should not necessarily be provided to congressional committees investigating the Russia matter. “If we give it to Mueller, there is no reason for it to ever get to the Hill,” he said. 

Mr. Cobb also discussed the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting — and the White House’s response to it — saying that “there was no perception that there was an exchange.”

"No perception that there was an exchange" sounds like they are referring to the fact that nobody thinks that the Russian lawyer ever provided any of that promised dirt on Hillary.

Interesting that they did not say there was no actual exchange, only that there is no perception of an exchange.

The Trump lawyers attempted to convince the Times that there was no real enmity between the two teams, but that is certainly not what it sounds like from this lunch conversation.

It would seem to me that if even the lawyers are fighting, that things are really bad inside this Trump White House.

23 comments:

  1. Anonymous8:41 AM

    I hope Mueller can get the documents locked in the safe.
    My take is they want to appear to be cooperating providing selective information. If there truly was no collusion or cooperation with Russia then full disclosure as well as on security clearance forms would have been a non issue.

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    1. If they were part of the subpoena and were NOT turned over, Trump's lawyers are in deep shit. I'm sure a lot of this is about letting loose that there are documents locked in a safe that weren't turned over.

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  2. Anonymous8:55 AM

    Unbelievable. In unbelievably poor judgment for lawyers representing the White House's resident nincompoop. Joe Pesci could do a better job!

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  3. Anonymous9:29 AM

    Trump's lawyers are as incompetent as he is, loudly talking about legal matters publicly. What a bunch of idiots!

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  4. Anonymous10:29 AM

    I believe this was Ty Cobb covering his ass when he knew there would be a difference of opinion with John Dowd. Intentionally set in a public place by Cobb at a restaurant next to the New York Times. Where reporters regularly eat. How stupid is Dowd?

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    1. Anonymous1:37 PM

      It was not accidental.

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  5. Anonymous10:33 AM

    red-Yellow-$wamp Green>
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/watch-alabama-gop-senate-frontrunner-calls-native-americans-and-asians-reds-and-yellows-at-campaign-event/

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  6. I understand Cohen is going to give testimony.

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  7. Just a thought: Are we sure they weren't talking loudly to be purposely overheard? Maybe they want disinformation out there.

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    1. Anonymous11:46 AM

      My thought tOO...

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    2. Anonymous12:29 PM

      It's hard to believe they would both make a public mistake like that. Intentionally indiscreet....

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    3. Anonymous12:58 PM

      my thought exactly.

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  8. Anonymous12:12 PM

    This Presidency is a disaster. Is it any wonder why he had 6 business bankruptcies with the way he conducts himself?

    The orange orangutan surrounds himself with clowns. Maybe Stephen King used Drumpf as his inspiration for Pennywise in the book "IT".

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  9. Anonymous12:23 PM

    Another winning SNL skit. Sad for USA.

    #TrumpsAWhiteSupremacist is trending on Trump's beloved Twitter. https://twitter.com/funder/status/909770932348182528

    NYT ?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/opinion/trump-white-supremacist.html

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  10. I don't think this is necessarily a sign of animosity among the lawyers. I'm a lawyer. Most of us talk about and to each other like this a lot of the time. Lawyers are an argumentative and opinionated group and they're articulate. They often disagree and say they do openly and tell others that they disagree with the other one. At the end of the day it has very little to do with conflict or animosity. I and my colleagues over the years have often been approached by staff asking if we're mad at each other or if the subordinate one is "in trouble". The answer has always been "no".

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    1. Anonymous1:39 PM

      Cool story bro, tell another one.

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    2. Anonymous2:06 PM

      Linda is correct. This is yet another nothingburger for you all to drool and surmise about.

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  11. Anonymous2:27 PM

    "YOU GO SIT DOWN"Pu$h Off>
    http://crooksandliars.com/2017/09/awkward-does-donald-trump-recognize-his

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  12. Caroll Thompson3:00 PM

    My daughter and I were have a conversation the other day. We both agreed that the incompetence of the Trump Administration might be our saving grace here.

    Can you imagine two seasoned lawyers speaking on confidential matters in a public restaurant with the a New York Times reporter at the next table. The Times guy just wanted lunch and this just dropped in his lap. Unbelievable.

    You just can't make this stuff up.

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    1. linda4:52 PM

      I would agree Caroll but as some have noted, this could have been an intentional leak of information done to appear unintentional. So many games being played . . .

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  13. Anonymous4:01 PM

    K.O.
    https://video.gq.com/watch/the-closer-with-keith-olbermann-trump-russia-and-the-facebook-factor?c=series

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  14. Paul Manafort has been wiretapped since 2014!

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html

    "US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.

    The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.
    Some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that Manafort had encouraged the Russians to help with the campaign, according to three sources familiar with the investigation. Two of these sources, however, cautioned that the evidence is not conclusive.
    Clinton opens door to questioning legitimacy of 2016 election
    Clinton opens door to questioning legitimacy of 2016 election
    Special counsel Robert Mueller's team, which is leading the investigation into Russia's involvement in the election, has been provided details of these communications."

    OH, BOY!



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  15. Trump's Lawyer is going to testify Tuesday.

    http://us.cnn.com/2017/09/17/politics/michael-cohen-senate-intelligence-committee-russia/index.html

    "President Donald Trump's personal attorney Michael Cohen told CNN on Sunday that he expects to appear this Tuesday before the Senate intelligence committee.

    It is expected that the committee staff will interview Cohen, a source familiar with the matter told CNN. Cohen is not expected to be under oath during the appearance, but all witnesses appearing before congressional committees are required to tell the truth or potentially face criminal charges.
    Cohen's appearance before the committee is also voluntary, a source with direct knowledge of the process told CNN."

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