BREAKING: @RepWilson heard @realDonaldTrump 's call to Widow of LaDavid Johnson, killed in Niger, and says it was "Insensitive and Insane" @WPLGLocal10 (1/2)— Ross Palombo (@RossPalombo) October 17, 2017
Courtesy of WaPo:BREAKING: @RepWilson says @realDonaldTrump told soldier's widow "He knew what he signed up for... but when it happens it hurts anyway." @WPLGLocal10 (2/2)— Ross Palombo (@RossPalombo) October 17, 2017
The White House did not receive detailed information from the Defense Department about the four dead soldiers until Oct. 12, and that information was not fully verified by the White House Military Office until Monday, according to a senior White House official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to comment on the internal process.
At that point, the official said, Trump was cleared to reach out to the four families — both in letters that were mailed Tuesday and in personal phone calls to family members that day.
“He offered condolences on behalf of a grateful nation and assured them their family’s extraordinary sacrifice to the country will never be forgotten,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said.
In his call with Sgt. La David T. Johnson’s widow, Myeshia Johnson, Trump told her, “He knew what was signing up for, but I guess it hurts anyway,” according to the account of Rep. Frederica S. Wilson (D-Fla.), who was riding in a limousine with Johnson when the president called and heard the conversation on speakerphone.
Wilson recalled in an interview with The Washington Post that Johnson broke down in tears. “He made her cry,” Wilson said. The congresswoman said she wanted to take the phone and “curse him out,” but that the Army sergeant holding the phone would not let her speak to the president.
At first the White House would neither confirm nor deny this story, but then this morning Trump tweeted this.
When told of this denial by Trump, Rep. Frederica Wilson said this:Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 18, 2017
"I have proof, too: this man is a sick man," Wilson said Wednesday morning on CNN's "New Day," responding to Trump's tweet. She added that Johnson's widow "broke down" after her call with Trump, saying the President "didn't even know his name."
Well I am interested in seeing Trump's "proof."
I wonder if it is the same kind of proof as the kind he said he had which proved Barack Obama was not born in America, or the same kind of proof he had concerning all of those millions of illegals who voted for Hillary Clinton, or perhaps it is the same kind of proof as that which proved that thousands of Muslims in New Jersey cheered when the World Trade Center crumbled to the ground.
I wonder if it is proof like that?
Wilson is right, Trump is a sick man.
Update: So now the widow has confirmed Rep. Wilson's version of the call, and the White House is now saying that Trump was "misunderstood."
Did they also misunderstand when he called Wilson a liar and claimed to have proof to back that up?
Update 2: Jesus check this out.
By the way the Congresswoman HAS made the statement again, so where is your proof asshole?Pres. Trump denies lawmaker's account of call with fallen soldier's family: "Didn't say what that congresswoman said. Didn't say it at all." pic.twitter.com/3im4BzfQdr— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) October 18, 2017
For a man who claims to be well educated, Trump has major issues.
ReplyDeleteTrump does not know how to speak if he does not have a teleprompter or a speech written for him,
Look how he was insensitive to the people of Puerto Rico after the hurricane devastated the island.
So I believe Trump was insensitive to Sgt. La David Johnson's family.
I believe he is insensitive to everyone. He is an infant emotionally. It's ALL about feeding his narcissistic needs.
DeleteThis isn’t news. Trump has proven again and again he cannot speak sensitively. (He lacks the emotional capacity.) You would think by now his handlers knew this and would have written him out a script to read.
DeleteYou can be sure from now on they certainly will. They’ll just change the names and details but it will be scripted just the same.
Trump can’t be trusted to just speak extemporaneously. He might start in on his stump speech talking points about how big the inauguration crowd was or how many illegal votes Hillary got.
DoG he is totally inept.
Oh, FFS, how hard would it have been to say, "The USA grieves with you over your husband's loss. Knowing how dangerous the job was, he did it to keep all of us safe. We are very grateful for his service and so sorry to lose such a fine man." There--that said the same thing as "he knew what he was getting into", but it showed class.
DeleteAnd a lying non empathetic f'ing moron. Sick in the membrane. His supporters adore him. He's just like them.
ReplyDeletehttp://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/la-david-johnson-frederica-wilson-trump-call
ReplyDelete“Their sacrifice will never be forgotten,” she (Huckleberry) said.
DeleteBut apparently their names will.
At least Sgt. LaDavid Johnson.
When questioned at that press briefing Trump couldn't remember shit. Couldn't remember the wife was Mrs. LaDavid Johnson or Myeshia Johnson, couldn't remember the representative's name, couldn't remember what he said. It was some blanket, generic denial with some vague threat. Typical Trump bullshit.
Well, Representative Wilson has repeated her statement. Now, what is Trump going to do? Unfriend her? Block her on Twitter? Does he think he can fire a member of Congress?
misunderstood RIGHT!?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/white-house-walks-back-trump-claim-that-dem-fabricated-remarks-to-widow-now-says-he-was-misunderstood/
"Accountability vs. Responsibility. The main difference between responsibility and accountability is that responsibility can be shared while accountability cannot. Being accountable not only means being responsible for something but also ultimately being ANSWERABLE for your actions."
DeleteAnd then the soldier's mother spoke up to confirm that our president had disrespected her son, so the moron fell back to be "misunderstood".
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/soldiers-grieving-mom-confirms-president-trump-did-disrespect-my-son-and-my-daughter/
ReplyDelete“President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband,” Jones-Johnson told the newspaper.
The soldier’s mother declined to elaborate, but she told the newspaper that Wilson’s account of the conversation was accurate."
"Wilson called Trump a “sick man” after she was told Trump accused her of fabricating his conversation with Johnson. Wilson insisted that SHE HAD PROOF of what Trump said, and noted that there were multiple people in the car with her who heard what Trump had said."
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/this-man-has-a-brain-disorder-rep-wilson-calls-trump-a-sick-man-after-he-accuses-her-of-lying/
"“I started this show one day by saying that the bottom was calling, it wanted to know if we were there yet,”" “It feels like the right time to re-up the question.”“So it turns out, with this president, there’s always a lower rung from which to swing,” Wallace said angrily"
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Yeah and little Donnie would know about signing because he never signed up. He was just a juvenile delinquent that was sent to the white racist school for assholes and pussys.
ReplyDelete"The film will be a historical drama detailing the events that led to the shooting of Kent State students during a Vietnam War protest in May 1970. Sixty-seven shots were fired by the Ohio National Guard, four students were killed and nine were injured.
Delete“There was a prevailing movement in the country – they measured it with polls – where the VAST majority of Americans BLAMED the students for what happened,” Roach told Deadline. “We have footage of the people on the streets saying,
‘I wish they’d SHOT them ALL.’”
You and Your children.
In the case of Trump he knew what he was avoiding.
DeleteBone spurs my ass. His Daddy just paid some quack with an M.D. to excuse his son. Draft Dodger Donald.
Now>Cheat$ at Golf and $teal$ tOO!
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ReplyDeletehttps://www.thedailybeast.com/obamas-name-to-replace-jefferson-davis-at-mississippi-school
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A complete and utter social clod!
ReplyDeletegauche, nouveau riche, trailer trash with cash, oaf, clod, rude, crude and socially objectionable, not fit for polite society.
DeleteTrump destroys everything he touches. He is a psychopath and has no feelings for anyone but himself. He is a vile pile of rubbish and should be thrown onto the trash heap of history for what he is.
ReplyDeleteIF.... if the President of the United States of America (Trump) wants to play Consoler-In-Chief and calls to console the widows of fallen heroes, wouldn't it be proper to know the names of the fallen soldiers before making his calls so as not to upset the widows? How hard is that?
ReplyDeleteTrump said the hardest job he has to do is to make these calls?
So was it harder to improve his golf game the week he planned to make four phone calls or was it harder to remember four names?
Congresswoman Wilson said the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson was upset after the call.
“She looked at me and she, ‘He didn’t even know his name.’ That’s the worst part," she said.
I would NEVER accept a phone call from Trump - NEVER, EVER! He makes my skin crawl and has zero sensitivity.
DeleteOh, I’d accept the call, wait until he was on the line, then hang up.
Delete$25,000.00" ‘I’m going to write you a check out of my personal account for $25,000,’ and I was just floored, Baldridge said. I could not believe he was saying that, and I wish I had it recorded because the man did say this. He said, ‘No other president has ever done something like this,’ but he said, ‘I’m going to do it.’”
DeleteBut Baldridge told the Post he had not yet received a check yet. He said he did receive a condolence letter from the administration, adding that he “opened it up and read it ... hoping to see a check in there.”
“I know it was kind of far-fetched thinking. But I was like, ‘Damn, no check.’ Just a letter saying ‘I’m sorry,’” he told the Post."
" White House spokeswoman Lindsay Walters said that a check was sent, but it was not made clear when that was."
But will ~IT~go NSF/Bounce?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/military-father-says-trump-offered-him-25000-and-never-followed-through_us_59e7b278e4b00905bdae7ef7?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Hero's body is returned to his family
ReplyDelete"Casket Of Sgt. La David T. Johnson Arrives At Miami International Airport" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/hRpaHVBwazY
I saw the video of the wife mourning over her husband's casket,and I wept.
DeletePresident Trump received 5 Military Deferments
ReplyDeleteHow low is the bar set for President Trump to console a grieving widow?
Should Trump be trained prior to consoling Gold Star families even though he says he is well educated?
Trump is a disaster!
Deletewell educated? he was asleep though all his classes. daddy paid so donny didn't have to be in armed services.
DeleteHe went to UPenn. They schould revoke his degree as well as his admission. And Ivaaaaahhhhnka's. Then reverse legacy and ban any offspring fro about ten generations. It's really tarnishing their rep.
DeleteHe said, she said>
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/i-did-not-say-what-she-said-pouty-trump-lashes-out-when-asked-for-proof-of-wilson-fabricating-quotes/
She has witnesses.
DeleteTrump is a serial LIAR.
If this went to court, she’d win.
Watch the Trumpeters and Palinbots attack this poor widow now.
ReplyDeletewell, after all, she is a liar. we all know trump and faux news never, ever lie.
DeleteAmericans raise $200k overnight for children of grieving Army widow Trump insulted
ReplyDeletehttps://shareblue.com/americans-raise-200k-overnight-for-children-of-grieving-army-widow-trump-insulted/
https://www.gofundme.com/sgt-la-david-johnson-scholarship
He enjoys denigrating the military and its members, perversely using his bully pulpit to run their families down while luxuriating on the taxpayer’s dime. This time is no different. He just got nailed while committing his latest crime against decency.
ReplyDeletehttps://shareblue.com/let-her-say-it-again-trump-taunts-lawmaker-who-revealed-his-cruelty-to-army-widow/
Yes, all the while objectifying athletes they disrespect the military and lying about past Presidents.
DeleteNotice the body language he assumed to field the question from press. A corporal fortificationing to lie and stonewall.
ReplyDeleteFox News demands Army widow be thankful for Trump’s insulting phone call
ReplyDeleteDesperately trying to clean up the burgeoning scandal surrounding the ISIS ambush in Niger that killed four Americans two weeks ago, made even worse Donald Trump’s stunningly insensitive response to it, Fox News simply fabricated the latest chapter in the story in attempt to save Trump’s reputation.
Trump stunned observers Tuesday night when he reportedly, and belatedly, called Myeshia Johnson, the widow of Sgt. La David Johnson, who was en route to meet her husband’s remains at the Miami airport.
But instead of simply offering words of sympathy, he reportedly told the young, pregnant widow that her husband “knew what he was signing up for” when he joined the military.
The call was first reported by Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-FL), who was with the Johnson family and heard the call on speakerphone.
On Wednesday morning, Trump lashed out at Wilson, saying she “totally fabricated” details of the call. Cowanda Jones-Johnson, mother of the slain soldier, later confirmed that Wilson’s description was “very accurate.”
But Trump’s allies at Fox News, led by Ainsley Earhardt, took a different approach. They simply rewrote the phone call script and improved upon what Trump reportedly told the widow, while suggesting that the young woman should be grateful for Trump’s time and attention.
https://shareblue.com/fox-news-demands-army-widow-be-thankful-for-trumps-insulting-phone-call/
"“I’m sorry your husband died fighting for our country.”And she said he framed it wrong, he said that comment, she was really offended by it. My response to this was the president of the United States of America called to say, “Thank you for your service. I’m sorry for your sacrifice.” That in it of itself is extremely special that the president of the United States picked up the phone to call these families."
Delete"To put another woman down, to push her farther down one of any number of ladders in life, only makes your climb just that much easier. In the eyes of those in power, in the eyes of other women watching the spectacle, to deride and shame another woman is a palpable positive."
Ainsley Earhardt^
OT: On Ellen>
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https://twitter.com/dcherring/status/920679301774680065
ReplyDeletehttps://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-accuses-congresswoman-fabricating-said-dead-soldiers-widow-130147824.html
ReplyDeleteHe’s Poison
ReplyDeletePresident Trump is poison. Everything around him gets damaged and degraded. It’s not any one thing. It’s everything. It’s hard to evaluate the dynamics of this call out of the context of waiting ten days, lying about his predecessors, creating this hideous spectacle with John Kelly’s son. Was the family prepped for something off because of the preceding three days? Probably. Was Trump angry about all the criticism? Probably so. It’s a perfect storm. And it all builds out of one man, Donald Trump.
There’s a big debate about Trump and clinical diagnoses. Malignant narcissism is the one most clinicians refer to. But that’s a distraction. You’re talking about someone with a profound selfishness, a jarring inability to experience empathy and a kind of ravenous emotional predation. Someone who is a profound narcissist is inherently erratic and destructive to those around him since he is acting according to his own impulses, angers and appetites with a relative indifference or even a sort of blindness to those around him. They don’t exist. Lots of wreckage is inevitable. That’s what it’s like living, trapped, in a house with an abuser. This is what it’s like living in a country with a President who’s a predator.
He poisons everything. No one gets out undamaged. Some are damaged profoundly.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/hes-poison-part-ii
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/hes-poison
Sorta like the Midas Touch in reverse. Everything Trump touches turns to shit.
DeleteAgree!
DeleteFool>"rump said that he had a “fool proof plan” to defeat ISIS. He said he would allow his generals 30 days to present a plan to defeat ISIS. Now, over 240 days since he was inaugurated, there are still Americans being killed by ISIS. Obviously the plan wasn’t fool proof because Trump is still President, he is still a fool, and ISIS is still killing American soldiers."
ReplyDeletehttps://malialitman.com/2017/10/18/trumps-dishonors-the-memory-of-the-black-soldier-after-fool-proof-plan-fails/
What plan? Did I miss him unveiling his super secret fool proof fabulous BEST PLAN EVER?
Deletehttps://thinkprogress.org/trump-says-military-widow-myeshia-johnson-is-lying-frederica-wilson-6cf812ef2051/
ReplyDeleteNotice how Trump crossed his arms and holds himself. He's been doing that a lot more often when photographed at a table! He's protecting himself and lying!!! The two go hand in hand!
ReplyDeleteTrump is a racist! Bottom line! He shows it time and time again. Bless the family of the young black man that was killed.
Yep. Body language says all!
DeleteIt's a clear case - AGAIN - if HIS word against everybody else's word...
ReplyDeleteClumsy, angry and defensive.... also made what sounded (to me) like a veiled threat to the Congresswoman: “Let her say it again, and see what happens”. Ye gods, what an asshole.
ReplyDeleteDoes he think he can “fire” her? She’s elected.
DeleteDoes he think he can do anything to see that she loses her re-election? After this, I doubt it.
Man, Trump just keeps giving Democrats more and more fuel for the 2018 campaign. It’s a shame they don’t know what do to with it. Or simply refuse to use it.
Yeah, “go high” and keep losing while the rest of us suffer.
He is wearing the classic puss of every bully I ever met. He may have met his match in that cowboy-hat wearing Congresswoman though. Her bio says she was an elementary school principal - perfect for this task.
ReplyDeleteOh, and don’t forget the tapes he had on his dinner with Comey that proved he was right and Comey was a liar. Still waiting on those.
ReplyDelete“I guess”? “I guess it hurts anyway”? Does this asshole not understand the workings of a speakerphone? Did he think only the widow would hear? If only the Rep or someone in the car had thought to record that speakerphone “condolence” so there would be absolute proof. I suppose the White House has already wiped the tape of that conversation they had.
What a fucking MORON asshole those Deplorables put in OUR house. Every one of them should apologize and vow to vote Democratic for the next 4 elections as penance.
Jeebus was an insensitive fucker he is.
lol.
Deleteall he cares about is money and golf.
DeleteHow can Trump be president when he can't even talk to Gold Star families?
ReplyDeletehe's president? i thought it was a bad dream.
DeleteHe occupies the White House illegitimately, and the history books will show that. Not president.
DeleteBULLY! Plays people against each other.
ReplyDelete" “No, but there were several people in the room from the administration that were on the call including Chief of Staff, Gen. John Kelly.”"<fuckabee
"rump’s proof just like many of the words that come out of his mouth was a total lie."
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/18/sarah-huckabee-sanders-admits-trump-proof-insult-army-widow.html
"The White House doesn’t deny that Trump disrespected a fallen soldier. In fact, they are angry at others for pointing out the President’s behavior.
DeleteEven Trump’s own White House can’t deny his comments.
Trump is reeling as he has once again caught himself in a trap of his own making."
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/18/trump-reeling-white-house-confirms-disrespected-green-beret-died-battle.html
i guess it still hurts. wow, great job, dumpt.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/mind-works-after-death-consciousness-sam-parnia-nyu-langone-a8007101.html
ReplyDeleteUPDATE 2
ReplyDeleteTrump:I had a nice conversation with the woman....
THE WOMAN?
Mr. President instead of referring to the grieving pregnant widow as "THE WOMAN", how about showing some respect and refer to her as
Sgt. La David T. Johnson’s widow
or Mrs. La David T. Johnson
Mr. President, sad to say, Mrs. La David T. Johnson is now a member of the Gold Star family.
Show Sgt. La David T. Johnson’s widow some respect.
Trump you should have been at the Miami Airport with Green Beret Sgt. La David T. Johnson’s widow to show you are better than your predecessor like you say you are.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/18/gold-star-families-received-call-trump-upset.html
ReplyDelete"rump claimed that he called all of the families of those who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country, the Washington Post interviewed families of 13 out of the at least 20 who have died since Trump took office.
“About half had received phone calls, they said. The others said they had not heard from the president.”"
Wonder Why?
DeleteTrumpelthinskin’s body language speaks volumes. He looks like a toddler that got caught in a lie.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget Trump's other allegation that he had proof that Obama tapped Trumps' phones at Trump tower. We're still waiting for the proof.
ReplyDeleteTrump was misunderstood? Gee, the orange orangutan hadn't considered the possibility of a speakerphone. What a compassionless, idiot he is.
So tRump WH claims no info til 10/12?
ReplyDeleteI guarantee you someone in WH knew from the web reports and TV, told a superior, who told another person, who told someone else.
Also, no way Mattis & Kelly did not know about Niger lost lives.
PMom_GA
Exactly! I, and many, heard about this right after it happened. I kept waiting for the media to pick it up, as I knew the WH sure wasn't going to say anything!
Deleteold senile fart. He needs to be put into an assisted living home and that is not the White House!!!
ReplyDeleteDonald Trump cannot be empathetic because as a child his parents were not there for him. He needs healing. But with money and power it will not be possible for him to heal. He will learn either in this life or in the after. If there is an after.
ReplyDeleteSane and informed people know that Trump is unfit to be president and would want him removed from office. Unfortunately for the US, Mike Pence is not any better according to an article by Jane Mayer in the New Yorker:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/23/the-danger-of-president-pence
A bit off topic.:Am I the only one who is offended by how Huckabee-Sanders speaks. I just hate the way she is always searching for her words and all the Uhs just make me want to scream.
ReplyDeleteWhen she says "Uh", she's thinking of her next lie to defend her boss's indefensible behavior.
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