Thursday, December 07, 2017

Donald Trump Jr. refuses to reveal details of phone call to his father citing attorney client privilege. No such privilege exists in this case.

Courtesy of the New York Times:

Donald Trump Jr. refused on Wednesday to provide a congressional committee details of a July telephone conversation with his father about a meeting last year at which Trump campaign officials had expected to receive damaging information from the Russian government about Hillary Clinton. 

Testifying in a closed session before the House Intelligence Committee, Mr. Trump claimed that his conversation over the summer with his father, two days after The New York Times disclosed the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower in Manhattan, was protected under attorney-client privilege because lawyers for both men were on the call. 

What, if anything, Donald J. Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting as a presidential candidate — and his role in drafting a misleading statement about it once he was president and it became public — are key questions for the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, who is investigating Russian interference in the election.

The problem with that whole attorney client privilege thing is that it really does not protect Junior in this situation.

Here let the venerable John Dean explain it:
If anybody would know about the limitations of the attorney client privilege it would be John Dean.

And why is this important?

Courtesy of Mother Jones:  

During eight hours of questioning by the House intelligence committee on Wednesday, Donald Trump Jr. acknowledged that he and his father had discussed news of his controversial 2016 meeting with a Russian lawyer after the New York Times revealed the secret sitdown this summer. But he refused to disclose the contents of their conversations. 

Trump Jr. “acknowledged having discussed the June 9 meeting and the emails that went into establishing that meeting after those emails became public,” Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), the top Democrat on the intelligence committee, told reporters after Trump Jr.’s interview with the panel. 
“He acknowledged discussing that meeting with his father.” 

The admission by his Trump’s eldest son raises the question of how closely the Trumps coordinated on their response to the bombshell revelations and could bolster the case that President Trump participated in an effort to craft a false public explanation for the Trump Tower meeting. Trump Jr.’s initial statement about the meeting, reportedly dictated by his father on Air Force One during a July 8 flight from Germany, inaccurately claimed that the discussion focused on adoption. 

So finding out what was said during that phone call would likely prove that Trump and Junior conspired to cover up what that meeting was about, which of course we now know had really nothing to do with Russian adoptions.

And the kicker is that I would bet my house that Robert Mueller already knows exactly what Donnie and his son talked about that day, and is simply waiting for the proper moment to spring it on them in court.

31 comments:

  1. Anonymous11:04 AM

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-responds-to-jlaw-saying-shed-throw-a-martini-in-his-dads-face_us_5a29579de4b0fa7986128fcd?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000313

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trump-is-a-skilled-manipulator-and-hes-even-manipulating-peoples-memories/

    'Addicted to accumulating cash?' with NO EMPATHY

    https://theconversation.com/trumps-manipulation-of-mass-consciousness-88435

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    1. Anonymous12:27 PM

      I hope Al Franken get a slot on MSNBC -- he would be a great interviewer...if any GOP would go on his show. HE would not let them wiggle out of giving an answer.

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  2. Anonymous11:05 AM

    This is what the Republicans are really up to

    t isn’t easy watching the country you love fall down a black hole from which it is not likely to emerge, but that is precisely what happened this past week with the Senate passage of the so-called “tax reform” bill. Bernie Sanders spoke for many when he said it will “go down in history as one of the worst, most unfair pieces of legislation ever passed.”

    To which I’d add, not only the worst legislation, but also the most radically transformative passed in our lifetimes. The bill seems to have something to hurt every American, except for the wealthy. It raises taxes on most middle-income wage earners over the long haul, eliminates the individual mandate for health care (which will send insurance premiums soaring) and allows oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. The House version removes deductions for large health care expenses and compels graduate students to pay taxes on tuition waivers, though the Senate version retains both. Speaking of the health care provisions alone, former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers predicted millions would die.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/this-is-what-the-republicans-are-really-up-to/

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    1. Anonymous12:07 PM

      Paul Ryan Cut Taxes On Rich So He Can Fuck Grandma Millie.

      Paul Ryan is pretty chuffed about the trillion-dollar hole the GOP tax bill will blow in the federal budget over the next 10 years, so even though the bill hasn’t yet made it out of the conference committee, he’s already looking forward to the cuts America will absolutely have to make to Medicare, Medicaid, and — maybe — Social Security starting next year because we’ll have so much darn debt. In an interview on talk radio, the House speaker said it’s essential that we start chopping up the social safety net because we can’t afford the old or the poor to hold back America’s rich people anymore:

      “We’re going to have to get back next year at entitlement reform, which is how you tackle the debt and the deficit,” Ryan said during an appearance on Ross Kaminsky’s talk radio show. “… Frankly, it’s the health care entitlements that are the big drivers of our debt, so we spend more time on the health care entitlements — because that’s really where the problem lies, fiscally speaking.”

      Ryan also said he thinks he’s making progress in convincing Donald Trump to “rein in” Medicare, although he didn’t explicitly mention that Trump had promised during the campaign that — unlike other Republicans — he would never, ever cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid. Obviously, Trump’s willingness to flush Medicaid during the ACA repeal debate made the point that his campaign promises were lies, so apart from un-American journalists pointing out what Trump repeatedly said, no one really cares.

      Ryan did at least acknowledge there was little chance of slashing Social Security, since Senate rules won’t let Congress make changes to that program through the reconciliation process that was used to pass the tax cuts and to try to kill Obamacare. Nonetheless, Marco Rubio has already said Social Security should go on the chopping block as well as Medicare, as long as it’s only slashed for people who aren’t yet retired and receiving benefits.

      Ryan also signaled that when he says “reform,” he’s really talking about some kind of Medicare privatization scheme, possibly through block grants:

      https://wonkette.com/626736/paul-ryan-cut-taxes-on-rich-so-he-can-fuck-grandma-millie-no-kink-shaming

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    2. Anonymous12:32 PM

      The GOP has included a very strange clause in their proposed tax plan.

      Hidden among massive corporate tax breaks is a provision allowing families to open 529 educational savings accounts for "unborn children" – essentially college plans for fetuses.

      This dangerous "personhood" language needs to be highlighted. The conversation about when life begins belongs with our scientists, our clergy, and our families. The last place it belongs is in our tax code.

      So -- having an abortion, for any reason, would be murder, and thus all abortion could be banned. wow, just wow. could happen.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/14/gop-tax-bill-is-no-place-to-address-rights-of-the-unborn-commentary.html

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    3. Anonymous12:35 PM

      The GOP has included a very strange clause in their proposed tax plan.

      Hidden among massive corporate tax breaks is a provision allowing families to open 529 educational savings accounts for "unborn children" – essentially college plans for fetuses.

      This dangerous "personhood" language needs to be highlighted. The conversation about when life begins belongs with our scientists, our clergy, and our families. The last place it belongs is in our tax code.

      So -- having an abortion, for any reason, would be murder, and thus all abortion could be banned. wow, just wow. could happen.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/14/gop-tax-bill-is-no-place-to-address-rights-of-the-unborn-commentary.html

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    4. Anonymous3:46 PM

      Are these tax deferred accounts? Another way for the rich to avoid paying taxes?

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  3. Anonymous11:06 AM

    ‘Not even your dad likes you’: Internet burns Trump Jr. for gloating about Franken resignation

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/not-even-your-dad-likes-you-internet-burns-trump-jr-for-gloating-about-franken-resignation/

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    1. Anonymous11:42 AM

      Well he is right,people like Al,the trumps not at all.

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  4. Anonymous11:07 AM

    This is fake news.

    Donald Jr got a law degree from Trump University.

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    1. Anonymous1:21 PM

      NOT FAKE>http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-trump-jr-profile-20170712-story.html

      "His father slapped him in the face and said, “Put on a suit and meet me downstairs,” “Every memory I have of him is of him stumbling around campus falling over or passing out in public, with his arm in a sling from injuring himself while drinking. He absolutely despised his father, and HATED the attention that his last name afforded him,” "

      As for daddy dearest>
      "Trump’s first year, under the command of Major Theodore Dobias, was hellish. Dobias slapped and punched him until he learned to make his bed and polish his shoes — things that Donald, an aggressive little wiseguy, had at first refused to do."

      "On weekends, when his parents drove up to see him, they would chaperone a pretty young woman. Trump would promenade her around the campus in full view of the cadet corps. The cumulative effect of this pantomime was that Trump was designated “Ladies’ Man” in a graduation yearbook photo.
      The designation was no more meaningful than his position as the leader of the drill team." {When he didn't have to collect the rent weekend with Fred}

      wanna bet drunkard diaper don jr. ends up like bernie madoff's son Mark?

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    2. I think of Junior and Eric more like the Menendez brothers.

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  5. He would have gotten farther taking the 5th. That's all the Republicans recognize, the 2nd and the 5th.

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  6. Anonymous11:23 AM

    No such privilege exists in this case.

    So what? New rules with President Trump. Move on.

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  7. Anonymous11:41 AM

    O/T Washington post article asked what made Rand Paul's neighbor do what he did? Answer: who just went on a far far trip for pics with ol' Rand Paul in his office?

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  8. Anonymous11:54 AM

    Jr and Sr (especially) need to be strung up for the world to see. Evil as they come - both of them. Horribly detrimental to our country.

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  9. Anonymous11:58 AM

    Does anyone seriously expect any of them to tell the truth?

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  10. Anonymous12:01 PM

    So dumb he has never heard of the fifth amendment because it is a bigger number than second.

    Who was the brain trust that came up with that defense, I don't think either one of them can even spell attorney,let alone be one.
    Hint for Donnie Jr,at least one of you has to have a real law degree.

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  11. Anonymous12:10 PM

    Trey Gowdy, Man Who Conducted Eighth Benghazi Investigation, Says Top Dem Is The Real Benghazi

    https://wonkette.com/626719/trey-gowdy-man-who-conducted-eighth-benghazi-investigation-says-top-dem-is-the-real-benghazi

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    1. Anonymous1:51 PM

      http://www.politicususa.com/2017/12/07/hero-john-lewis-refuses-attend-mississippi-civil-rights-museum-opening-trump.html

      HERO STATESMAN!

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    2. Anonymous2:30 PM

      https://wonkette.com/626759/sarah-huckabee-sanders-being-a-real-poot-lips-about-civil-rights-hero-john-lewis

      fuck-a-bee $ting

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    3. Anonymous2:34 PM

      http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/john-lewis-donald-trump-civil-rights-mississippi/index.html?sr=twCNN120717john-lewis-donald-trump-civil-rights-mississippi0402PMStory


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    4. Anonymous2:42 PM

      http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/john-lewis-donald-trump-civil-rights-mississippi/index.html?sr=twCNN120717john-lewis-donald-trump-civil-rights-mississippi0402PMStory

      http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/interviews/civil-rights-activist-myrlie-evers-williams/

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  12. Anonymous12:10 PM

    WATCH: CNN puts together a hilarious supercut of Trump sniffling and slurring through speeches

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/watch-cnn-puts-together-a-hilarious-supercut-of-trump-sniffling-and-slurring-through-speeches/

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  13. Anonymous12:13 PM

    Newly-revealed emails show follow-up between a Don Jr. associate and British publicist after 2016 Trump Tower meeting: report

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/newly-revealed-emails-show-follow-up-between-a-don-jr-associate-and-british-publicist-after-2016-trump-tower-meeting-report/


    Exclusive: Previously undisclosed emails show follow-up after Trump Tower meeting

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/politics/previously-undisclosed-emails-after-trump-tower-meeting/index.html

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  14. Anonymous1:15 PM

    Neither Donnie Sr. nor Donnie Jr. is a lawyer so how can there be any "attorney/client" privilege? And the 21st century GOP in Congress just lets it slide! Our country is sinking at an astonishing rate.
    Beaglemom

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  15. Anonymous1:27 PM

    Return orders. Govt only 2 more weeks. Returning these boxes of stuff asap! Please understand family.

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  16. Anonymous3:46 PM

    sweetness: NEWYORK NEWYORK hates you!

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/12/07/trump-trapped-rat-robert-muller-seals-pardon-escape-hatch.html

    "MEANS that even if Trump tries to pardon himself and everyone around him, he won’t be able to escape state and local prosecution."

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  17. Anonymous3:51 PM

    "President can only pardon someone for a federal crime. For example, Trump could pardon himself, but if charges are filed against him in New York, his pardon, which is an admission of guilt could be used against him in a state prosecution.

    Donald Trump is trapped. He has thought of the pardon as his ultimate escape hatch, but Muller just sealed his last way out closed."

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/12/07/trump-trapped-rat-robert-muller-seals-pardon-escape-hatch.html

    COCKblocked?

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  18. Anonymous4:07 PM

    Steve Schmidt on H.>"calling him a propagandist who is “wrong in the most profound way” and “dangerous” to the public. “What you’re seeing on Fox News is from the type of propaganda that you would be subjected to if you lived in Belarus or if you lived in Ru$$ia.
    It is dishonest. It is purposeful. It is misleading.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/republicans-nicolle-wallace-and-steve-schmidt-disgusted-by-sean-hannitys-very-very-wrong-mueller-attacks/

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  19. Anonymous6:15 PM

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/seth-meyers-taunts-don-jrs-lengthy-house-intel-hearing-eric-was-unsupervised-for-8-hours/

    What Bullshit

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