Thursday, February 15, 2018

Donald Trump attempts to blame the Florida school shooting on mental illness rather than access to guns. But he forgot something. Update!

Yeah, if only somebody had notified the authorities that this young man had mental health problems.

Oh wait they did:

Everyone knew Nikolas Cruz was deeply disturbed. He'd been in and out of mental health treatment. He'd been kicked out of school. His Instagram page was full of photos of dead animals and weapons. He was so frightening to teachers that he'd been banned from even carrying a backpack into school.

But then again thanks to you that wouldn't have helped, would it?

Courtesy of Vox: 

It did not attract a ton of attention at the time (nothing does these days) but about a year ago on February 28, 2017, Congress passed and Donald Trump signed a law revoking an Obama-era regulatory initiative that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy a gun. 

Yet despite this effort to roll back even a very modest effort to restrain the ability of seriously incapacitated people from obtaining deadly weapons, this morning Trump tweeted that there were “so many signs that the Florida shooter was mentally disturbed,” implying that someone should have done something to report him.

But it’s Trump’s party — and Trump himself — who have consistently prevented the federal government from doing anything about this kind of situation.

Well that's awkward.

However not all people diagnosed with a mental illness are inherently dangerous, nor can you be sure that just because somebody has not been been diagnosed with a mental illness that they are safe either.

People with seemingly perfect mental health encounter a stressful situation which pushes them over the edge, and out of control, every single day in this country.

For most of us that typically results in some possible property destruction, harsh words, and perhaps a lost job or damaged relationship. But if you have access to a firearm, suddenly your brief break from mental health can be a life changing event with a potential deadly outcome.

However do you know what IS a fairly reliable indicator that somebody is dangerous and should not have access to firearms?

Being a white supremacist.

Courtesy of The Daily Beast: 

 Nikolas Cruz, the alleged gunman who killed at least 17 people at a Florida high school on Wednesday, trained with a white-supremacist group, its leader told the Anti-Defamation League. Jordan Jereb of the Republic of Florida told ADL that Cruz had participated in at least one training exercise near Tallahassee area, carpooling with other ROF members from south Florida. ADL reports the group describes itself as a “white civil rights organization fighting for white identitarian politics” and seeks to create a “white ethnostate” in Florida. 

So if Donald Trump really wants to keep us safe, perhaps he should not only keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers (Which would include members of his White House.), the mentally ill (No gun for you Donald!), but also white supremacists (You know, Trump's base.)

That would be a good start at least. And it would certainly have saved the children in this school.

Update: And the plot thickens.

Nikolas Cruz
 Of course, of course he was a Trump supporter.

Update 2: I think Trump should have to sit in a room with this mother and listen to her until she can no longer form words.

You know after Sandy Hook President Obama visited with ALL of the parents of those slain children, and spent real time with them listening to their pain, and literally crying with them.

After that he went out and really tried to change the laws to protect those kids, and he was blocked at every turn by the Republicans.

Donald Trump really could do something here, he has the GOP running scared from him, but sadly we know he won't.

49 comments:

  1. There are soooooo many ways guns and ammunition could be regulated. The U.S. hasn't done squat.

    We need to start by getting rid of the NRA and instituting serious campaign finance reform. Without that we'll never be able to move on anything else.

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    1. Anonymous1:55 PM

      Yes i am tired of being terrorized by the NRA.

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  2. Anonymous1:51 PM

    I Survived a School Shooting Only to Have Congress Fail Me and Other Victims



    Not even the White House and the President is safe with the drastic security breaches going on.


    When America fails it is bigly yuge.

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  3. Anonymous1:53 PM

    This shooting is trumps fault,he is so quick to undo everything from Obama's tenure and doesn't care what the consequences are.

    There is no reason for a mentally ill person to have a gun.

    Trump is totally responsible for this terrorist attack.

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    1. Let's give credit where credit is due.

      George W. Bush (and the GOP) allowed the ban on assault rifles to lapse.

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    2. Anonymous2:35 PM

      There is no reason for a military assault guns to be freely available.

      There is no reason for thinking things will change.

      There is no reason for the thoughts & prayers drivel.

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  4. Anonymous1:56 PM

    Dear Mr. President,
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWGlMhxUMAElv8v.jpg



    Nikolas Cruz is a home grown terrorist. A product of the alt-right.
    https://twitter.com/FMoniteau/status/964151023345553408

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  5. Anonymous2:25 PM

    Collateral damage. Russia. Shrug.
    Increases as tensions build.

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  6. Anonymous2:31 PM

    The sewer rat dotard hypocrisy. He is being coached to say more positive shit, that he doesn't agree with. What a low scrum sucking pos!
    FU mister dicktator!!

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  7. The Florida Nazi Seditionists that trained him say it may not have had anything to do with a girl spurning him and him choosing Valentine's Day may have been a coincidence.

    They say there were a lot of Jews in the school and they hate Jews sooooooo.

    (Oh, yeah, that explains it much better.)

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  8. Anonymous2:41 PM

    adopted. father died when he was four. mother died last year. possibly FAS baby, some have theorized based on his facial characteristics. no friends, awkward, depressed. this kid was an alt-right dream recruit. (my husband is adopted. he's read lots about adoption and on the high number of adoptees in our prison system. just so you don't attack me for that. it simply increases the possibility of a child's feelings of alienation, especially when compounded with the other losses of his life.)

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    1. Anonymous3:15 PM

      What THE **** is your fascination with FAS?

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  9. Anonymous2:49 PM

    Is that the first time Trump went on TV to make a statement on a shooter? He was very insincere about it. Sick.

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    1. Anonymous2:55 PM

      its planned. just like every thing. hey Russia.
      chit is about to blow up!
      butt stick your head in! ;)

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    2. He was handed a paper and told to read it.

      He's also being told he has to go to Florida and make sounds like he cares. I'm sure he'll stop off on his way to Mar-a-LaGOFUCKYOURSELF.

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    3. Anonymous6:22 PM

      Trump was already going to Mar a Lago so a pit stop
      in Parkland is a minor inconvenience for him. Maybe he will throw the victims’ familIes paper towels and say “Have fun!”

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  10. Anonymous3:15 PM

    I hope someone slugs him in that fat face of his when he visits the Moms and Dads of the kids that were killed. His speech today was staged and appeared to have been rehearsed and staged!
    Slow talking - no expression - just plain insincere and unexpressive! He does 'not' represent me in any way!

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  11. Anonymous3:28 PM

    Gosh. Russia. If ya want to chat, dont cheat with a 206-928-7851 #!
    Northern Russian Exposure. hahaha

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  12. Anonymous3:31 PM

    There will be days of anguish and outrage and then something else will headline the news. Just as with all the other school carnage and mass killings nothing will be done. The United States of America is a horrible place to live.

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    1. Anonymous3:47 PM

      AGREED. I feel so sorry for my grandchildren and the world they're inheriting.

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  13. Anonymous3:40 PM

    With the Russians secretly funding the NRA, they are feeding an out of control animal.

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    1. Anonymous5:24 PM

      you got that right. ;)

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    2. Anonymous8:38 PM

      Cranberries - Zombie

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    3. Anonymous8:14 AM

      I think they use technology to get the end product. Latest, is hearing voices.
      Sure it wasnt Alexa on his cell phone? Russia is sneeky.
      Not so bright. Chernobyl. :/

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  14. Anonymous3:53 PM

    Trump is a eunuch! He has no balls ! No huevos!
    Nein !!
    He will suffer one day, one way or another!
    We have a stupid ,disgraceful,imbecilic, person in charge.Fuck all the morons who voted for him.
    I am fucking angry!!!!

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  15. Anonymous4:01 PM

    Guess Cruz's parents couldn't afford to send him to military academy, ya know, like the Trump parents did when Donald proved too much to handle in school and was failing.

    Pot kettle much El Trump?

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  16. Anonymous4:05 PM

    White Supremacists Claim Nikolas Cruz Trained With Them; Students Say He Wore Trump Hat in School

    Hate group says the accused Florida school shooter did paramilitary exercises and got a rifle from members. Ex-students say he wore a ‘Make America Great Again’ hat in school.

    Nikolas Cruz, the man accused of killing 17 people in a Florida high school, was a member of a “white separatist paramilitary proto-fascist organization,” a leader of the group told The Daily Beast.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/nikolas-cruz-trained-with-florida-white-supremacist-group-leader-says

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  17. Anonymous4:12 PM

    House Republicans Vote To Take Away Rights From The Disabled By Gutting The ADA

    http://www.politicususa.com/2018/02/15/house-republicans-just-voted-take-away-rights-disabled-gutting-ada.html

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    1. They can certainly try via the budget as the House controls the money.

      But the Senate makes the laws and they'd also have to pass it.

      Then they both have to pass a Supreme Court smell test and you know this, like so many of the GOP's deplorably cruel intentions is checked by the courts.

      I don't think this is going anywhere. Some judge is going to rule this is a Constitutional violation of the rights of the disabled.

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  18. Anonymous4:16 PM

    After Florida Shooting, The Teens Become The Strongest Voice For Gun Control

    The people making the most sense about a high school massacre that left 17 dead are the kids who survived it.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/florida-shooting-teens-gun-control_us_5a85ea3be4b004fc3190306e

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    1. Or, as a commentator on NPR said as I was driving home "The students want something done about guns. If we don't do it, they will."

      As more and more of these teens grow up to become adults and vote, they are going to change the narrative on guns.

      A survivor of today's shooting survived the same way her Grandfather did. At age 12 he was told to hide in a closet by his family, who were killed in the first mass shooting. 1949 Florida. Today she and 18 of her classmates survived by hiding in a closet. Her Grandfather died in 2009 but she was thinking of him today. Both surviving mass shootings in the same way.

      How do you think she is going to vote in two years?

      I hope she runs for political office. I hope she goes to Congress and changes our gun regulations. Then I hope she serves the people of this nation in the White House.

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  19. Anonymous4:18 PM

    Parkland shooter’s former neighbor: Police were called to his house ‘more than 30 times’ before 2013

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/parkland-shooters-former-neighbor-police-called-house-30-times-2013/

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  20. Anonymous4:33 PM

    Students at three separate Texas high schools caught bringing guns to school after Florida shooting

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/students-three-separate-texas-high-schools-caught-bringing-guns-school-florida-shooting/

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    1. Anonymous5:40 PM

      Where is Tripp Palin?

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  21. Anonymous4:38 PM

    Florida Dem catches Republicans planning to discuss weakening background checks day after school shooting

    ...“Because FL Republicans are cowards bought and paid for by the National Rifle Association, they snuck in a gun provision inside of the Agriculture bill making its way through Tallahassee,” Cuba writes. “SB740 is scheduled to be heard by the Senate Appropriations Committee TOMORROW Thursday Feb. 15 at 1 PM.”

    Cuba noted that bill is intended to deal with “oyster harvesting, revising standards of water vending machines, and more.”

    “However, conveniently tucked in pages 88-90 of this 98 page bill is language that would require the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to grant a Concealed Weapons Permit applicant their permit within 90 days, even if a full background check has not been completed,” he revealed. “No one should be granted a concealed weapons permit unless a full background check has been completed. That’s just common sense.”

    Cuba concluded by calling on voters to contact their representatives “and ask that they remove this language from the bill.”

    At the time of publication, the bill had not been taken off the schedule to be discussed at 1 p.m. on Thursday.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/florida-dem-catches-republicans-planning-discuss-weakening-background-checks-day-school-shooting/

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  22. Anonymous4:54 PM

    Another mother sent trump a tweet that she doesn't want his condolences,she wants him to do something about gun control.

    He is going down there this weekend,i hope they slam him about overturning the Obama EO about no guns for mentally ill,although that would mean Donnie couldn't carry.

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  23. Anonymous5:16 PM

    The White House Is Hiding Photos Of Trump Signing Bill To Reverse Key Obama-Era Gun Regulation

    The White House is denying requests to release photos of Donald Trump signing a bill that reversed an Obama-era gun rule to prevent those with extreme mental illness from getting a gun.

    CBS News reported on Thursday that they requested 12 separate times to see photos of the president reversing the rule– and each time they were turned down.

    More from CBS News:

    http://www.politicususa.com/2018/02/15/white-house-photos-guns.html

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    1. Freedom of Information Act.

      This will go to court and they'll be forced to release the actual photo.

      In the meantime any photo of the orangutan with the smirk, showing off his signature will do. All his photos pretty much look the same.

      They should display it next to the photo of Nicholas Cruz in his red MAGA hat.

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  24. Anonymous5:19 PM

    PRO-GUN RUSSIAN BOTS FLOOD TWITTER AFTER PARKLAND SHOOTING

    EACH NEW BREAKING news situation is an opportunity for trolls to grab attention, provoke emotions, and spread propaganda. The Russian government knows this. Fake-news manufacturing teenagers in Macedonia know this. Twitter bot creators know this. And thanks to data-gathering operations from groups like the Alliance for Securing Democracy and RoBhat Labs, the world knows this.

    In the wake of Wednesday’s Parkland, Florida school shooting, which resulted in 17 deaths, troll and bot-tracking sites reported an immediate uptick in related tweets from political propaganda bots and Russia-linked Twitter accounts. Hamilton 68, a website created by Alliance for Securing Democracy, tracks Twitter activity from accounts it has identified as linked to Russian influence campaigns. As of morning, shooting-related terms dominated the site’s trending hashtags and topics, including Parkland, guncontrolnow, Florida, guncontrol, and Nikolas Cruz, the name of the alleged shooter. Popular trending topics among the bot network include shooter, NRA, shooting, Nikolas, Florida, and teacher.

    On RoBhat Labs' Botcheck.me, a website created by two Berkeley students to track 1500 political propaganda bots, all of the top two-word phrases used in the last 24 hours—excluding President Trump's name—are related to the tragedy: School shooting, gun control, high school, Florida school. The top hashtags from the last 24 hours include Parkland, guncontrol, and guncontrolnow.

    Ash Bhat, one of the project’s creators, says the bots are able to respond quickly to breaking news because they’re ultimately controlled by humans.

    https://www.wired.com/story/pro-gun-russian-bots-flood-twitter-after-parkland-shooting/

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    1. That should make it easier for Twitter to identify and block them.

      Right?

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    2. Anonymous5:46 PM

      Can't block this valentine.

      https://twitter.com/Dakota_Meyer/status/963949737316667393

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  25. Anonymous5:23 PM

    Trump’s Budget Cuts Millions Of Dollars From Gun Background Check System

    This would “significantly undermine” efforts to keep firearms out of dangerous hands, gun control advocates say.

    ....Buried on Page 719 of his fiscal year 2019 budget, released Monday, the president calls for cuts to the National Criminal Records History Improvement Program and the NICS Act Record Improvement Program. Both provide federal grants to states to help them improve their reporting of criminal records and protection orders to the national database for background checks, including domestic violence records.

    The two programs are currently budgeted at $73 million. Trump’s budget proposal for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1 would slash their funding to $61 million, which amounts to a 16 percent cut.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-nra-gun-safety-background-checks_us_5a84abdee4b0774f31d1b770

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    1. Trump's budget is nothing but a window into his tiny demented pea brain and cruel (lack of) soul. It speaks to his intentions. It's a wish list.

      He doesn't set the budget. Paul Ryan and the House do. They might take his budget under advisement and with a pound of salt, but they won't rubber stamp it. After all, they're running for re-election in 2018 and 2020. He'll be gone, one way or another.

      What Trump has done is cut the Census budget. It's already been done by his deplorable cabinet pick. That is some serious shit because the Census will determine voting districts in 2020. They are already terminally gerrymandered. So much so the Supremes are being forced to step in.

      But that fantasy budget his minions made and had him sign off on doesn't mean much.

      It's Ryan you have to watch. His budget will be much worse.

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  26. Anonymous7:55 PM

    Because the NRA has the GOP by their saggy balls, not a damn thing will be done. In fact Donald Trump probably can't wait till the news people moves on to the next story. Americans have the power to do something by boycotting the gun people, but American people actually operate under the delusion that those fuckers in Washington are supposed to do something. Ah, well.

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  27. Anonymous9:46 PM

    That poor mother. Her anguish is palpable. I wish I could reach out and hug her, and more importantly, give the safety measures she demands.

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  28. Anonymous7:44 AM

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/maddow-rains-hell-trump-sneaking-bombshell-middle-parkland-tragedy-ice-veins/

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  29. Anonymous7:45 AM

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/maddow-rains-hell-trump-sneaking-bombshell-middle-parkland-tragedy-ice-veins/

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  30. Anonymous7:50 AM

    "“I think effective enforcement of our gun laws, focusing on criminals and dangerous people, mentally ill people that have been — where we have the legal ability to do so — can reduce violence in our communities and improve public safety,” “It is not good if we got gun laws that say criminals can’t carry guns and they never get enforced. So we intend to enforce our laws.”“When parents once again go to sleep fearful that their kids will not be safe, even when they go to school — parents have told me in gang-infested neighborhoods that children can no longer stand at the bus stop by themselves, they take turns, parents do, of being out there every morning and afternoon,” “So we’ve gotta confront the problem. There’s not doubt about it.”
    Alt-Riiiggghhhttty!

    https://thinkprogress.org/jeff-sessions-bad-solutions-school-shootings-parkland-7ad9b91b3cad/

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  31. Anonymous8:06 AM

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/16/florida-shooting-weapon-white-house-415663

    "“In this instance, this individual did obtain the weapon through a legal background check," Shah told Fox News during an interview. "You know, we don’t know all the circumstances surrounding it, but obviously he shouldn’t have had that weapon and shouldn’t have been able to do the kinds of things that he did.” "in the wake of tragedies you have to look at everything," but also cautioned officials to not overreach and infringe on citizens'
    constitutional right to bear arms."

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