So here is the pdf of the memo if you want to read it for yourself.The Democratic memo is out. It claims that the Nunes memo was a “transparent effort to undermine” DOJ and FBI and special counsel’s probe. https://t.co/ozrui1yKii pic.twitter.com/JzzuNHiqMq— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) February 24, 2018
But here is what we have essentially learned:
- Steele Dossier played NO role in opening the Carter Page investigation. They began their investigation prior to even receiving it.
- The DOJ did in fact inform the court of the origin of the Steele Dossier.
- They accuse Nunes of deliberately misrepresenting the underlying FISA Warrant intelligence.
- Four different judge's approved FISA warrants including judge's appointed by Bush and Reagan. Multiple DOJ officials also approved the applications prior to the court even seeing them including Trump appointees Rosenstein and Boente.
- They actually started listening to Page after he left Trump campaign so the idea they were watching him to spy on Trump is absurd.
- Page has a long history with Russia going back to 2004 and was being actively investigated once before already in 2013. The FBI had even interviewed him in 2016 again prior to receiving the Steele Dossier. The Steele dossier was referenced in the application as corroboration of certain things, and not to independently demonstrate.
- A bunch of blacked out additional evidence with a bit in the middle noting Page lied to the HIC in his testimony in 2017 about meeting with Russian officials.
- It included the footnote that discusses the Steele dossier source which SPECIFICALLY STATES ..."The FBI speculates the the unidentified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign." Candidate 1 is Trump I believe, edit I previously thought Person 1 was Steele, this is the person coordinating with Steele. Steele is Source #1.
- DOJ timely informed the court when the FBI fired Steele and why.
- The attacks on Bruce Ohr for knowing Steele/and his wife working for Fusion GPS are 100% baseless. He was not involved in the FISA process and disclosed his relationships in November 2016.
That last part I think we all essentially recognized from the get go.
Nunes is either a Russian agent himself, or somehow compromised, and Gowdy is just a conspiracy theory chasing POS.
Here were the final few paragraphs from the New York Times write up on this memo:
The wiretap of Mr. Page generated useful intelligence.
When the Justice Department repeatedly sought the court’s permission to renew the surveillance of Mr. Page, the Democratic memo said, it cited new information it was gathering through the wiretap.
“The court-approved surveillance of Page allowed F.B.I. to collect valuable intelligence,” the Democratic memo said. It asserted that the repeated renewals “demonstrate that the F.B.I. collected important investigative information and leads by conducting court-approved surveillance.”
What that intelligence was, however, was redacted.
The memo released by the Republicans of course suggested that the FISA warrants issued on Carter Page were illegal and unnecessary, and this memo completely refutes that argument.
What's more is that when Mueller releases his report on all of this, we are likely going to know what was learned through these warrants.
That means the House Republicans were counting on their memo derailing an investigation that they had to know would ultimately prove that they were running interference for Donald Trump.
Speaking of Donald Trump he was all over Twitter yesterday trying to refute the findings in this memo.
Mostly he was posting snippets from his insane conversation with Jeanine Pirro. But there were other attempts to discredit the memo as well,
Here was one such attempt being refuted in real time:
I think that kind of sums up Trump's pathetic attempts to save his ass.Holy moly. The @FoxNews anchor said "Congressman Schiff, he ARGUES the REPUBLICAN memo omitted and distorted key facts." Trump just deleted 5 words from the quote to allege the opposite meaning. https://t.co/UlSQUcc0bD— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) February 25, 2018
Don'cha just love redacted info?
ReplyDeleteRedacted by the White House though, the Democrats did not think there was anything of a classified nature that required redaction when they wrote this memo.
DeleteThat means that the White House redacted it to save face, not to protect the country.
Bingo.
DeleteThanks, Gryph!
I'm sure comparing the two memos side by side would provide ample hints as to what was redacted.
DeleteIt's not like the Trump administration are rocket scientists.
I just want to know if Sarah was the women in the pee pee tape.
ReplyDeleteTrump would never let his tiny dick touch that nasty coochie
DeleteSarah Palin has a putrid odor, and no real man can stand it.
DeleteSarah and Bristol are busy in Texas, working for Ted Cruz. You know she is a king maker. The Palin's standing in the church and with the NRA will assure success.
DeleteDid you see her wonderful speech at CPAC? She is on a roll, the GOP can't get enough of her.
10:46 "You know she is a king maker"
DeleteYou mean she is queen of the dim. Only low IQers would take Sarah 'the tiny POS' seriously.
I didn't see it noted Palin was to be a speaker at the CPAC. Proof please!
Delete10:46 is sarcasm
DeleteOops. You know there are certain people who would post what 10:46 posted in complete seriousness. I usually pick up on online sarcasm but this time I was a big fail.
Delete""It's important for the public to see the FACTS, that the FBI acted appropriately in seeking a warrant on Carter Page," Schiff responded on CNN's "State of the Union."
ReplyDelete"The FBI, is not part of
"some deep state, as the president apparently would like the public to believe.”"
"I'm proud to be one of the bad hombres, I guess,"
{DJTjr}"I asked him about conversations he had with the president where the president was on that aircraft and they concocted this FALSE statement about that meeting in Trump Tower with the Ru$ $ians," Schiff said. "And he refused to answer the questions, claiming attorney-client privilege, which clearly doesn't apply to a situation where neither he nor his father are attorney nor client."<{exactly}
"Our position is — and the Republicans have adopted it as well — if witnesses refuse to answer questions and make bogus claims of privilege, as he did, as Steve Bannon did, we call them out on it," "Well, {~IT~} the president doesn't like that. But that's not a leak. That's a FACT."
Republicans lie, cheat, and steal. It's in their essential nature.
ReplyDelete...and beware of those calling themselves "devout Christians," 9:33 AM. They are the furthest from it. GOD, my keester.
DeleteO/T Keep the faith. Many investigations, many places.
ReplyDeletehttp://money.cnn.com/2017/04/27/media/fox-news-federal-investigation/index.html
GeorgiaPeach
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/02/25/trumps-lawyers-flipping-trying-keep-prison-mueller-closes.html
Delete"Provided the questions he faces are limited in scope and don’t test his recollections in ways that amount to a potential perjury trap, a person familiar with his legal team’s thinking said. Mr. Trump’s legal team is weighing options that include providing written answers to Mr. Mueller’s questions and having the president give limited verbal testimony, another person familiar with the matter said.”"
Luv GeorgiaPeaches
Our country is in a fucking mess! With these idiots leading our country - we are going down.
ReplyDeleteImpeach Trump and get his sorry ass out of D.C. How many times have I typed these words?
There are so many FACTS out there with more than one reason to warrant the impeachment of Trump.
Vote out every Republican you can if they run for reelection on ANY level of our government. They do NOT support America or Americans!
One would need be deaf, dumb and wingnut stoopid not to realize Numnuts has been undermining the investigation since Say 1.
ReplyDeleteot "Who wants to go down the barrel of an AR-15, even with a glock?"
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/parkland-survivor-defends-scot-peterson-officer-failed-enter-florida-high-school/
ART TEACHER https://twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/967785350285479936
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/us-olympic-skier-slams-ivanka-trump-for-attending-closing-ceremony-what-is-she-doing-here/article/2650003
ReplyDelete"So proud of all these people! Everybody here has worked so hard to make it to the Olympics and have the opportunity to walk in the closing ceremony! Well... Everyone except Ivanka. Honestly, tf is she doing here??"
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/02/25/301241.html
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/02/24/jared-kushner-selling-secrets-am-joy.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
And Ivanks's daddy was so busy eating cheesburgers and golfing he couldn't be bothered to wish our athletes congrats or good luck.
DeleteIvanka is probably ther to check on her sweat shops.
CRIMEa a river...remember Sochi *
Deletehttps://www.politicususa.com/2018/02/25/301241.html
Putin Jizzed infront of the world-3 weeks later ~IT~was his.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/represent-russia-internet-rips-ivanka-trump-sarah-sanders-olympics-closing-ceremony-photo-op/
Delete"‘Both represent Russia’: Internet rips Ivanka Trump and Sarah Sanders for Olympics closing ceremony photo-op"
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/end-presidency-john-dean-says-rick-gates-testimony-bring-trump-good/
ReplyDelete"Mueller is throwing everything he can against Manafort, including Gates who can nail him. Increasingly it appears Manafort is the link to Russian collusion. If Gates can testify that Manafort was acting with Trump’s blessings, it’s the end of his presidency. That’s substantial."
Mr. Mueller (in his best Rambo voice), "trump, (insert thunder claps) I'm coming to get YOU"!!!
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