The arguments at the CIA safe house were loud and intense in the spring of 2002. Inside, a high-value terror suspect, Abu Zubaydah, was handcuffed to a gurney. He had been wounded during his capture in Pakistan and still had bullet fragments in his stomach, leg and groin. Agency operatives were aiming to crack him with rough and unorthodox interrogation tactics—including stripping him nude, turning down the temperature and bombarding him with loud music. But one impassioned young FBI agent wanted nothing to do with it. He tried to stop them.
The agent, Ali Soufan, was known as one of the bureau's top experts on Al Qaeda. He also had a reputation as a shrewd interrogator who could work fluently in both English and Arabic. Soufan yelled at one CIA contractor and told him that what he was doing was wrong, ineffective and an affront to American values. At one point, Soufan discovered a dark wooden "confinement box" that the contractor had built for Abu Zubaydah. It looked, Soufan recalls, "like a coffin." The mercurial agent erupted in anger, got on a secure phone line and called Pasquale D'Amuro, then the FBI assistant director for counterterrorism. "I swear to God," he shouted, "I'm going to arrest these guys!"
"I've kept my mouth shut about all this for seven years," Soufan says. But now, with the declassification of Justice memos and the public assertions by Cheney and others that "enhanced" techniques worked, Soufan feels compelled to speak out. "I was in the middle of this, and it's not true that these [aggressive] techniques were effective," he says. "We were able to get the information about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in a couple of days. We didn't have to do any of this [torture]. We could have done this the right way."
Well this is very interesting and seems to pit the two agencies, the FBI and CIA, against each other.
My money is on the FBI in this case and I would further bet that the CIA starts leaking like a sieve once the heat gets turned up and then we will all learn that the torture did NOT get us any useful information.
And when that happens they can call Dick "just torture them all" Cheney up in front of a Congressional investigative committee, place his giant ass under oath, and ask him to explain when he decided to trade America's reputation away for the chance to play Jack Bauer for real.
I applaud Mr. Soufan, and hope there are dozens more just like him just itching to tell America the truth about what went on these last eight terrible years.
For years, I've waited to read the memoirs that'll come out of the Bush malAdministration. I hope I live long enough. I hope they all turn on each other.
ReplyDeleteI want to see Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfield all in orange jumpsuits, serving time, for deceit and gross mismanagement of America's resources. Karl Rove would be a bonus, but these three men were in charge and they did a really, really sh*tty job of it.
ReplyDeleteyeah like ivy said- let them all turn each other like rabid dogs...thank you for posting this- it's important...I have a whole section up at the top of watergate summer- the top three posts ( beneath the swine flu) that are all about Torture and what we were Never told- how it does look like it was used to FORCE "confessions " in an attempt to Connect Al Queda to Saddam to Justify an Illegal War ( eps at Gitmo and Abu Gahriab....) but it might be more and worse. Abu Gahraib had FAMILIEs there-women, children- and yes, there were crimes committed against them, and yes there were CORPSES and yes, Medical People and Dogs were used and drugs and Buckets of ice and worse......we must demand the truth about ALL of this....ALL.....and yes, there must be Justice for the War Criminals that carried this out- and ORDERED and Crafted it in Dr.Mengala fashion....
ReplyDeleteI read this article earlier. All of those who spoke up are the heros as far as I am concerned. Considering the climate they were in they at least risked their careers and perhaps even their lives. This whole thing is just too hard to even wrap my mind around. I keep saying to myself the United States tortured people. We prosecuted people for the same things against our soldiers. If the Bush administration had not ended I shudder to think what kind of Nazi tactics would be going on now.
ReplyDeleteI am deeply offended by the attitude of those who say waterboarding is not torture. For that reason I have signed the petition 'Tell Sean Hannity to be waterboarded' that I found on thepetitionsite.com. I believe Sean should put his money where his mouth is. Perhaps Glen Beck, who (also, too) made light of this form of torture, could cover the proposed Sean Hannity Waterboarding event for Fox News.
ReplyDeleteCIA contractors? Does the CIA contract out its dirty work? Or any other work? I am so glad that this FBI agent had the courage to speak out.
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