Friday, August 07, 2009
New allegations against Sarah Palin revealed.
I am going to stay out of this one, but I am sure you can decide for yourself just how seriously these allegations could affect our ex-Twitter Quitter.
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ICEBERG? "THE FEDS"??????
ReplyDeleteBetter the Feds than United Nations...
DeleteBribery? Lol...is that all ya got...
I got more...and one of 2 DNA came in today? How's it going Sarah....smirk...
Tell Warren he might want call his attorney!
A federal claim of attempted bribery. Hmmm, yep, sounds pretty serious to me.
ReplyDeleteWow, wowy wow WOW! LOVE IT!!! Could she just 'man up' one time on any one of these charges??
ReplyDeleteWas trolling over at teamSCARAH and read they think they won one over on ya over your resignation. Using the same mentality as Sarah, destroy anyone who dare cross her they are trying hard to make you into something you are not and just know we all know the truth and are here to defend you from the likes of them.
Keep doing what you are doing and don't give up the fight!
well, well now. That sounds like a b**tch of an iceberg to me. I don't live in Alaska but hearing this in conjunction with that particular lawsuit, all I can say is that I wasn't expecting anything to come out of that left field. I imagine others may feel the same.
ReplyDeleteHowever, if the charges stand, that certainly will shed some light on how $arah really did run things, not to mention it should send red flags up to many other agencies who may be interested, if they're not already. You reap what you sow.....
I'd like to just say one thing. I read the complaint filed in the court. Evidently the "defendant" refused service of a subpoena.
ReplyDeleteMy friend sued someone and they refused service. The court also sent a subpoena by U.S. mail (not certified or signature-required).
When the case came to trial, the defendant said she was not served. The judge ruled that refusing a summons or subpoena, and using the U.S. mail does legally constitute "being served".
As for the complaint, I'll leave that to others as well. These individuals ARE serious.
Yawn....wake me when something actually happens.
ReplyDeleteBtw, aren't these complaints supposed to be confidential?
Drill, Kim, drill!
ReplyDeleteDrill for the truth to emerge about Sarah.
No statement from the Flea that "the FBI is NOT investigating?" As if we all did not figure out (long ago) that the FBI is NOT the only Federal agency in the world. Let's see how she gets out of this one, when her beloved/indebted little Personnel Board cannot help her. Even the Palinistas are not dumb enough to "go after" the Feds to protect their Queen - are they? No wonder they made a mountain out of a "splitsville" rumour - "Don't look at a bribery allegation, NO - look at the shiny object over HERE!"
ReplyDeleteThe other naughty monkey drops....
ReplyDelete:)
Feds are not like the personnel board they won't sweep this under the rug....
I read through the pdf on Alaska Report. This seems to be about some private citizens submitting a complaint for Palin's refusal to issue a Juneteenth proclamation.
ReplyDeleteSo now these private citizens are citing attempted bribery?
Also note that this story isn't cited as breaking news on even Alaska Report. Doesn't seem to be much activity on the google news wire either.
As a layperson, this doesn't seem like the iceberg to me.
Ano @8:36: THIS IS NOT A COPMPLAINT! THIS IS A LAWSUIT!!!
ReplyDeleteI hope this is just the tip of what is to come, and I hope this lawsuit will go to Federal Court...
I don't mean to be dense, or denser than I already am but....I'm not following. I think this looks serious, but what was the original lawsuit being amended? Gryphen, can you explain?
ReplyDelete@Anon 8:36 - this is NOT an ethics complaint. Pay Attention. This is a LAWSUIT in FEDERAL COURT.
ReplyDeletehaha - my wv is Volumes...hahahahahaha on so many levels!!!!
Sarah Palin is a liar, hypocrite and fraud.
ReplyDeleteanon@8:36: Please continue to snooze. Fine by us. This is a complaint to amend a charge brought in U.S. District Court alleging attempted bribery by a sitting Governor.
ReplyDeleteOops - NOT confidential - NOT an ethics charge. A real allegation of a criminal matter. With real names and a court seal and everything.
Get out your checkbooks folks. The Beg-a-thon is about to begin.
LA in SF:
ReplyDeleteNot a lawyer. It appears as if there was an original complaint filed previously in the US District Court. Alleging attempted bribery. The Plaintiffs have requested permission to ADD/amend the complaint with additional information.
This is lawyer-speak and not a big deal courtwise. You can always amend an original complaint if additional info becomes available.
So let's see now - we have a charge of attempted bribery by a state governor.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
The squeak you hear is the morons opening their checkbooks to send their $5 to her fund.
BEG-A-THON @ 10:00AM
To clarify: Go to the .pdf file and read item (2.) - they are amending the complaint to CRIMINAL due to information she tried to bribe someone to drop the original complaint.
ReplyDeleteThey HAVE something - and a lawyer has a sworn deposition to back it up. Otherwise they wouldn't do this, it would be too risky without backup.
Yay - CRIMINAL CHARGES AT LAST.
The title of the pdf document is:
ReplyDelete"Motion for Leave to File Second Amended Complaint"
The lawsuit, a public document filed in the federal court for the District of Alaska, is a civil action that originated when the Personnel Board informed the (then lone) plaintiff that it could not deal with his complaint (about the ex-Gov not issuing a mandated Juneteenth Proclamation) under the Ethics Act because it didn't involve a claim of financial gain. The plaintiff then filed a civil rights action against the ex-Gov in the federal district court, under federal civil rights laws.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like in the course of discovery in the lawsuit, the defendant disgorged certain material that the plaintiffs believe discloses an attempt to bribe third-parties with offers of substantial benefits if those third-parties could dissuade the plaintiffs from pursuing their lawsuit. The plaintiffs are seeking to amend their civil rights complaint to reflect this new information they received in discovery.
If the same information discloses a violation of criminal law, there would have to be a separate proceeding by law enforcement authorities to seek criminal charges if appropriate. If federal criminal charges were warranted, then there ordinarily would be testimony before a federal grand jury. Such proceedings would be secret, and the public would not hear anything about federal criminal proceedings unless/until indictments were returned, at which point any criminal indictments would be a matter of public record unless they were sealed. Any proceedings on criminal indictments, from arraignment on, would be public proceedings.
L.A. in S.F. - original lawsuit regards the Palin Administration NOT honoring the Juneteenth Proclamation. Could likely be overlooked/dismissed with an apology or a "we forgot and it will not happen again".
ReplyDeleteBUT, amended complaint alledges that a bribe was offered to drop the complaint.
If true, offering a bribe is the big deal - and such a dumb thing to do. I suspect the "bribe" will have to be on tape or in writing to prove.
For anyone that wants to know about this lawsuit
ReplyDeletego to this site.It's from Kansas City.com
http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/19262
original complaint was that Palin violated the constitution of Alaska by refusing to sign the Juneteenth Proclamation, as the law mandates she do as gov. she also refused to attend the celebrations or send anyone in her place. No other AK gov has ever done any of the above.
ReplyDeletebear in mind that her relationships with minorities were already bad, as she refused to hire any blacks in her administation and fired all of the existing employees (some of whom were black) and replaced them with her friends.
I can't help but laugh at the troll. :-) yes, because this -- using state money to bribe someone and offering to pass legislation which would appease them if they would drop the lawsuit-- this makes Blago look like a kid.
Have fun, conservatives. You picked a real winner here.
If Sarah is so dumb as to deny that she knew the feds were looking into her after the original lawsuit which was filed in March 09, then she is either: illiterate or a liar -- Oh! or both.
that is all.
never have I felt that any of the other charges would stick (not that they weren't legit- a different issue). But this one?
she is unelectable to city trash manager after this.
A racist who willfully violates the constitution out of pettiness, so as to avoid celebrating the freedom of slaves? Jesus. She is sick.
and then she violated FEDERAL law and BRIBES the plaintiffs. Oh, and this plaintiff sued someone quite successfully before. I am sure they have all of the evidence for bribery they need.
I can assure you, the "feds" were notified and are involved on some level. Just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Look at Norm coleman (R) -- he was also sued by an individual for something which was a federal crime (pay to play) and he's being investigated by FBI. This was widely known but never reported until recently (the FBI part).
Have fun in NY, Sarah. You'll want to see as much of the world as you can before you can taken out in handcuffs.
This is not just a complaint, it is not just a lawsuit. It's those "FEDS" that Sarah mentions.
ReplyDeleteNot just a complaint, not just a lawsuit, not just "FEDS"... she refused service, too?
When and where? How many times. Did someone need to get out of Dodge? It looks like she will be low key for awhile with the media. I've read how clever she is to play with the media as she is now, allegedly, due to the way the media has treated her.
Let's be civil and presume Sarah is innocent until she is convicted, fined and imprisoned.
ReplyDeleteOT but, this is the message that I get when I attempted to get to your site (and other Alaska Blogs)
ReplyDeleteWe're sorry...
... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.
Needed to use AOL instead.
Anyone know why?
See Google Help for more information.
Yep I had to use AOL as well.. same Google message
ReplyDeleteAnd I don't like using AOL ..keepin the fingers crossed it doesn't go into the familiar page after page after page... until I have to hit the power off to get peace
One note about the raging Palin-bots
So long story short, I spent time (my own doing not with my parents) at a very religious church.
Hell and Brimestone.. rules up to yin yang
In that.. we would go out "witnessing" on Friday nights
Nothing wrong with spreading some good news (I like Keith Green's view) but this was different.
We would be at a movie theatre parking lot where the kids hung out (our targets) .. when I should of been a normal kid with THEM! I was instead with these nutso's ..again by choice.. but it was fear based. They had me believing they saw demons in these kids.. especially if they were smoking or kissing... stuff like that.
I am far removed from that thank the "real" lawd above.. but I see alot of the same brainwashing going on with the peed my pants peoples
It is hard to explain but it is one mind and thought and the more opposition (or things like her blatant Lies) just means the devil is harder at work and they have to work harder to defend her.. its all a big war against good or evil
sorry this was long..just sharing
Please God, let me see this on the front page of the ADN real soon now.
ReplyDeleteSorry: I misread a clause in the amended complaint and no longer think this information was revealed in discovery. It sounds like the new information which forms the basis of the bribery allegation (and amendment to the complaint) came from some other source but only recently came to the plaintiffs' attention.
ReplyDeleteA trip over to Palin's facebook page is almost shocking. They think all the people who filed ethics complaints are being paid by President Obama. And that the country is being ruined and they need Sarah to save them.
ReplyDeleteWhat is different because of President Obama? He is saving the economy from its Bush collapse. Tax cuts for most people. Saving the car industry. But apart from the recession which he did not create, how is this country different? How is anyone's life different and ruined because of anything he has done?
I know logic is no way to approach these people, but they STUPID about the world.
I just got the same message, Patti.
ReplyDeleteDeb in WI
The Silence of the RAM... C4Peeing moderator?
ReplyDeleteIs interesting
I noticed after the "Big Split".. I zipped on over to see if there was a posting.. nope
then later.. nope
Then, AFTER unstapledtongue put up her facebook disclaimer.. C4P had an official post
(made me wonder.. does she .. guessing Ram in a she? .. have special ties to Meg amouthpiece?
This one is throwing her for a zinger.. she knows about it.. now trying to splice up a good story to counteract it .. the longer she sits on it.. the longer I know it is hittin' a dang nerve
FINALLY! I know a 'berg won't end the mindless Palin worship but would be great to at least see them mourn a bit
One dude over there posted he hated all these attacks on his girl Palin but what was equally frustrating is zero from the lips of Palin in retort
Palin doesn't give a rats arse about you peoples! She never sends a tweet about you, opens your gifts.. ..
you are invisible to her
anon@11:38am: Yes that is the way I read it, which is why they are requesting to amend the original complaint.
ReplyDeleteRE: Failure to accept service, read (4.). That really isn't a big deal since people assume they can claim they didn't get it. Mailing it to a home address is considered "service" and you are "served". Judges may indeed be wise!
I hope and pray (NOT legalese) that the new information has been deposed on digital and is now locked up tighter than a drum.
Interesting that no one has mentioned the DATE this was filed - it was MONDAY August 3 - according to the court date stamp. Coincidental to the first blogpost that got all the peepanties in a huff?
Yeah like the ADN wants to handle this. How do you report this and grovel at her feet at the same time?
"Have fun in NY, Sarah. You'll want to see as much of the world as you can before you can taken out in handcuffs."
ReplyDeleteI'd love to see Sarah picked up in N.Y.C. and sit in Rikers Island waiting on her bondsman. With any luck, it will happen on a holida weekend.
Thank you for de-densing me. Seems like this could most certainly be the Ice-thingy that DZ forewarned. Also too, seems like it could be the sort of thang that might just get her to stand on her lawn and spout gibberish about fish and basketballs. Maybe it wasn' the AFT, but black people and bribes that made someone with a law degree say, You might not want to be in office when this hits the fan. I just hope that it's all on tape. And I just hope that her publishing house has a lowly intern whose job it is to folo blogs and who writes a daily report on what Her Nothingness is up to. And I hope that daily, those top editors who mortgaged the company to pay her an obscene amount of money to write some fiction about who she is, or isn't, sweat big bullets over what they've done. They signed on to a pathological liar and quitter who was once a point guard or something. God she's an idiot. Say it with me people: God, she's an idiot.
ReplyDeletego to
ReplyDeletehttp://denniszaki.com/politics.htm
and click sarah's updo photo
Look at her eyes
even fancified frames can't hide it
every crows foot and bag is visible..
The Eyes are the Window to the soul
the rest of her face looks fresh and friendly
The part people see.. she hides her true self.. the one that has taken a beating from her soul
Oh gettin' outta my league here
but just saying.. quite telling!
Photos from her Mayor days she was glasses free
The ones she wears today seem to be without prescription (zero distortion) I think it's to hide bags
and not on a hunt to hang her beauty
But it is scary her eye area is so aged compared to the rest of the face
Maybe its how we age.. who knows
but like I said.. the windows of the soul..
oh deary me
ReplyDeletesorry but Im back at it
I watched Keith Olberman last night.. and he came up with the best phrase for combating the decisiveness with the current health care agenda
NOT agreeing it is being against the sick !
Or something to that degree.. Sure someone watched it.. his guest said going against the health care reform is attacking the sick! Because it is attacking the 20% that don't have health care..
Anyhooey
Look who also was watching.. could her snake tongue be more venomous and including everything but the kitchen sink (I mean the Troops)?
Can someone say cry me a river??
from her facebook forum:
The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.
i had a google denial of service also. all google blogs blocked me. i reset my IP address and now they work. i think someone is playing a DOS game or something. someone trying to hide the post?
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin published a statebook on her facebook regarding Obama's healthcare plan....basically implying that Obama wants to kill Trig (sounds surreal, but it's true).
ReplyDeleteRead it for yourself:
http://tinyurl.com/mwhkke
I bet Sarah knows whose information the plaintiffs have. And I bet the crazy ex-governor lady is beside herself trying to figure out how to "get back at" that person.
ReplyDeleteHow many people could she have tried to bribe to get them to discourage the plaintiffs from going ahead with the juneteenth suit?
And when you think about it, it's just such a silly thing. Proclaim the day, per the AK State Constitution. That's it, fer cryin' out loud. Miss the proclamation? Apologize and do it in arrears. But noooooooo, the crazy ex-governor lady couldn't be bothered.
Well Sarah, who knew that you might be facing criminal charges? I bet you did. Can you say, "I quit" for us one more time and give a real reason for a change? lolol...
Wow! A pro se litigant located in Washington, D.C. has evidence of the crime of attempted bribery in Alaska which he wants added to his civil lawsuit. He better have names and affidavits and recordings. Courts take a dim view of abuse of process. And in many states, perjury is frowned upon. Alaska laws seem different from anything I've worked with, so maybe it's okay up there. I'm just saying....
ReplyDeleteHere kitty kitty...aw nice kitty...pretty kitty...
Deletesounds like Kitty got the Salmon that was sent
LAST! in searching for K. Olbermann's archives to find last nights episode (first clip had the infamous.. he that is how we gotta sell this health care plan.. NOT supporting it attacks the sick) So ya could see Ol' Keith said it first.. now Palin is twisting it into her new FB message and throwing the word EVIL in there.. like she liked to call Olbermann..
ReplyDeletethis is too good
But anyways.. in searching found this site
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/
Dumbly clicked.. all I saw was an ad thingy with Pam Anderson covering big floatation device boobs.. and this is K.O's enemy...
Can someone say integrity?
Where do you get the information that service was refused? I thought it was served on the assistant attorney general as noted in the document.
ReplyDeleteAnon @11:38, I agree with you, as discovery would certainly not be going forward yet. No responsive document has been filed yet (as the leave motion indicates). Discovery won't happen until after that. BUT if no response is timely filed, they can probably file for summary or default judgment (not up on the terminology used in the US Federal Courts, sorry) on the basis that the suit is uncontested.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like another one of Sarah Palin's puppetmasters has written a diatribe about the health care reform bill, and posted it on her Facebook page.
ReplyDeleteInteresting that she invokes -- of all people, someone more demented than she is -- Michele Bachmann, whom, she said, "highlighted the Orwellian thinking of the president’s health care advisor, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of the White House chief of staff, in a floor speech to the House of Representatives."
The Facebook entry is listed as posted 1:26 PM (I assume that's my own PDT), so it would seem she's going to ignore the Federal claim of attempted bribery until she turns blue (all happy news between you and your devoted fans, eh, Sarah?).
I dunno...she's not being charged by the feds; a private citizen is alleging in a civil case that she is guilty of violations of federal law. I don't know that this is the iceberg. Pat in Texas
ReplyDeleteSo what was the bribe (money? services?) and who was bribed? And what was the person(s) bribed supposed to do? How where they supposed to get the complaint dropped? I'd also like to know what the proof is. Canceled check? Video?
ReplyDeletee-mail?
Martha Stewart served 5 months in Federal Prison. Although the original charge was insider trading, Martha ultimately served 5 months for lying to federal officials in the course of the investigation.
ReplyDeleteScooter Libby was accused of revealing the identity of a covert CIA operative. He was found guilt of lying to the grand jury, and would have had to serve time except for Bush commuting his sentence.
So, with Sarah accused of using state resources to bribe individuals to change their complaint-- it wasn't the original complaint. It may or may not have had traction. But trying to cover it up, aaaaah, that's another thing. It isn't the crime, it's the coverup. And, this time it's a federal charge, not something easily dismissed by pals on a personnel board.
Sarah Palin has always thought she was above the law. Just wave those skinny little hands dismissively, "oh that". She is incredibly stupid and incredibly arrogant, which is always a very dangerous combination. Well, as someone else pointed out she cannot run to her Personnel Board on this one. The Feds aren't impressed nor intimidated. This is going to be very, very interesting.
ReplyDeleteI want to see Palin and her clan put in their place as much as any of you, but most of you are seriously misreading this.
ReplyDeleteIt's only an allegation in a civil lawsuit. Period. It's NOT a criminal complaint, and even if it went to trial and a federal civil jury believed the bribery allegations, it wouldn't necessarily mean there's enough evidence for any state or federal agency to pursue criminal charges.
Just because someone files a civil suit in federal court doesn't make it "the feds" or make it a criminal complaint. And while refusing or avoiding service is stupid, it's not a crime.
Anon at 2:31, yeah, I read it the same way you did. As much as I'd like this to be grim news for La Sarah, I just don't see it that way. Not yet, anyway. Pat in Texas
ReplyDeleteThe mention of Libby made me laugh. The idea of Obama commuting her sentence popped in my head. Yeah right!
ReplyDeleteI'm getting old and a bit off kilter but I swear I read somewhere that the palins MIGHT be going to SPLITSVILLE. We have one of those bowling alleys right here in ______.
ReplyDeleteDont read too much into this allegation. it aint the berg IMHO...I HOPE it aint the berg. My fave is Housegate.
Let us all sit back and let this percolate for awhile.
ReplyDeleteKimC is alleging that SP attempted bribery (via someone we don't know who but I'll betcha SP does) rather than just do her job.
It's not about the case it is about a potential coverup. Because little miss arrogant Palin STILL thinks she is above the law.
theproblemchild: You are right of course about "discovery" however I will bet that the person SP allegedly tried to bribe has already given their statement to KimC's lawyer.
If anyone believes that KimC does not have the bribee locked up tighter than a drum, they are naive You do not allege bribery by a sitting politician without having little ribbons on a statement given under oath.
This could prove funny and fun.
miauippa:
ReplyDeleteSo what was the bribe (money? services?) and who was bribed? And what was the person(s) bribed supposed to do? How where they supposed to get the complaint dropped? I'd also like to know what the proof is. Canceled check? Video?
Since I am not privy to this information, just got the info off of the complaint, it's obvious that evidence has come into Kim's hands. It was not itemized or detailed on the complaint to amend. The complaint states that she wants to amend the complaint due to new information.
In other words - stay tuned ......
mary b, I like the way you think. Rikers on Labor day weekend, no rush on ANY judges part to bond her bony ass out....and CAVITY SEARCH by a matron with an attitude!
ReplyDeleteOne question - why does the complaint have $arah's address listed in Washington, DC?
ReplyDeleteAlso from the AKreport: "Palin has claimed she has over $600,000 in legal bills from these complaints, documents so far have shown only $120,000 in bills." Just what I have been saying, she stated the cost to AK to be millions, and it is less than $300,000 with almost $200,000 due to her Troopergate mess. So it stands to reason she greatly inflated her cost, to generate funds. Not to mention John Cole said she has not been out of pocket any expenses, not even payback on her children's travel. I hope she enjoyed those $700 hundred a night hotels, free vacations at least twice a month, $60 a day stay home pay, plus $60 phone calls. She quit because she couldn't get paid for the book deal while governor and it is worth a lot more, plus she knew a lot of the the stuff about to hit the fan could make them back out of the deal.
ReplyDeleteSeriously this little gem of a complaint has real potential to make SP pretty creeped out because I will guaran-damn-tee you she knows exactly who KimC has nailed down.
ReplyDeleteanon@2:31: How about we do this? Civil lawsuit to begin with. Now allegations of bribery by a public official sort of takes it to a new level? I believe that this "civil" case will now include information to indicate a crime has been committed. Oops - civil becomes criminal.
We are truly about to see how smart her lawyer is. She will not dare allow this to default with these accusations - and we know she can't keep that big fat mouth shut.
Dumbo could have just done the right thing, but she had to go and f*ck it up with attempted bribery. That's our Sarah - why do it the easy way when it's so much more fun to break the law?
anon@3:05 - Not sure about that. Then again KimC's attorney is in D.C. as well.
ReplyDeleteIt also states the complaint was sent to Alaska.
I don't know the rules for a U.S. District Court.
OK. That does it. This has officially reached the saturation point. I can't keep all these Palin scandals straight any more. Not to mention Todd's sister the burglar and Tripp's grandmother the drug dealer. It's hopeless.
ReplyDeleteRe Sarah's Evil Ignorant Fascist comment on FB, a WOnketter said:
ReplyDelete"Sarah Palin worrying about someone else's productivity level is ironic"....LOL!!! OH, god.
She claims the healthcare program will sacrifice her kids and her parents. LOL. No, honey...if there were going to be Death Panels, they would take you first. the ignorant and mentally infirm alwasy go first.
But seriously, is she STUPID or does she not know how to read? Cuz everyone who has read the bill knows that the money is going to children and older people first. Where was she when Dems were passing healthcare for kids?
Oh, right. She was autctioning Trig off on ebay so she could claim to be a conservative.
I know God doesn't make a lot of mistakes, but I'm thinkin' he's lookin' down at SHP and regretting one of his largest errors.
There isn't one person responding in this blog that has a clue about the law. All prior allegations have been proven false and this one is just another attempt by the left sided morons to fight. Has anyone in this blog ever had a job or done anything that requires responsibility in their waste of time lives? If you are representing something, it must be all of the stupid idiots that waste your freedom of speech.
ReplyDeleteMy read of the Amended Complaint is that KimC does not have an attorney; the first line of the Complaint indicates the plaintiffs as pro se, representing themselves. (That's not to say that they're not getting some help with drafting of documents and legal research though ...)
ReplyDeletehttp://politicususa.com/en/node/7052
ReplyDeletethere you go.
Of course, Alaska Report spins this as if its the Feds making the case against Palin, when it is not. A little research makes this clear, but apparently research is something that site and this blog have completely abandoned. You want to know who funds the smear campaigns and "spontaneous protests" of the Right? The same kind of people who read collections of wild accusations, propaganda and lazy "journalism" and think it the truth. I thought they were purely a creature of the Right until I found scores of them on the left, reading things like Alaska Report and this blog.
ReplyDeleteWhile there is no force on earth that could make this little blog comment show you how adopting the tactics of the right does the cause you purport to believe in far more harm than good, even if you yourself see some short term popularity, I would hope that you could at least try to see how what you are doing is the complete opposite of what you purport this blog to be about. Perhaps you *already* know, and this is just a quick way to get some strokes... at least *that* I can understand.
To make just one more small point, I quote from an earlier entry in your blog:
"I also learned that there was an incident back in the summer of 2008, before the McCain campaign officially tapped Sarah, where Todd Palin pulled a gun on Levi in a heated exchange concerning his relationship with Bristol. This news will be hitting the local papers here in town next week. Stay tuned."
The "next week" is now over and no such story has hit the papers. Palin would tell her fans to "just be patient"... or blame the local papers themselves for being timid or biased...
what do you tell your readers?
Basheert (and anyone else, esp including the pleasure-to-read lawyer types who seem so smart): I want to ask your opinion. Re BABYGATE, what is the best way to present the info we have right now so as to be clear -- like an "elevator talk," something we could present in 2 minutes to some important person (or even our best friend) to convince him/her?
ReplyDeleteWhat would be the best new way to present BABYGATE for maximum buy-in by the heretofore unconvinced?
--The various non-pregnant photos of SP right before April 18?
--Comparing SP photos with other pregnant bellies at 7 mo?
--Emailing something (what?) to 10 top columnists?
--Creating something humorous about it?
It seems so obvious that she was not pregnant -- hoaxed us all, hoaxed the whole country -- but it's also puzzling that this obvious concept has not gone viral or been covered in the MSM. Why is that?
--Have we not presented the info properly?
--Is there some high-level conspiracy to keep it out of the news?
What? Some relatively benign Hitler-diary hoax gets miles of coverage in the MSM, the politically unimportant Edwards case ditto, but not this one which has SO MANY more important implications -- Why?
The cover up tends to be worse than the crime.
ReplyDeleteIf there's evidence, then she's toast. And for something so trivial--a proclamation!
Palin is such a loser!
Actually, anon, I have done something constructive with my life. And You? I am a Navy Vet. I am the mother of SEVEN adopted children and four step children. I am rebublican who has higher standards than any of you idots who support the bimbo. I have my college degrees, have used them, and have NEVER quit something mid stream. My marriage is not a sham, and my special needs kids, have a fulltime mom to call their own.
ReplyDeleteOh, did I mention I am also a Christian? I'm not for abortion, but I don't want to make it illegal. I teach my daughters to keep their levi's zipped, and I teach my son's to do the same. While some on this will disagree with me, I think it is possible to wait until marriage to have sex. Abortion problem solved. I also don't use my kids as cannon fodder to advance my personal career. Palin needs to go away. I pray this will put her away forever, so our beloved party can start to rebuild with leadership that has brains cells that operate.
Mom 7:07 thank you for posting. I am also a Republican Christian. I blame John McCain 100% for unleashing Palin. She is appalling! I am starting to wonder how many true fans she has and how much is nonsense. I don't know anyone who respects her! We belong to an evangelical church and people do not think highly of her. This statement she made on Facebook explains it all. It's evil of HER to spread lies, to scare people. The woman has no soul.
ReplyDeleteMy question is I mean this with NO disrespect, I'm very curious
ReplyDeleteHow can you still be a republican?
If Palin, Limbaugh and Gingrich are the hope of your party, How can you still be a republican?
To anon at 6:50 PM, how we WISH we could find the answer to your question: “What would be the best new way to present BABYGATE for maximum buy-in by the heretofore unconvinced?”
ReplyDeleteNot only to reach the heretofore unconvinced, but to the general public, most of whom have never even heard about “babygate”. I did not hear about the fake pregnancy until AFTER the election. When I have mentioned to some people about the fake pregnancy, they scoff because they do not believe that ANYONE would fake a pregnancy, especially not a governor! Aaaarrrrgghh!
I am frustrated beyond belief when I try to make comments even on Huffington Post articles. If you have “fake pregnancy” in your comment, it is usually rejected. I do not use foul language, but I see so many comments containing some pretty foul remarks, but those are not rejected. Any babygate comments seem to be suppressed. Is that Arianna Huffington’s position, or are the moderators free to express their political views by allowing outrageous comments about our President but reject comments about babygate?
Some ideas to get the message out there:
1. Here is one idea that I thought was very clever and timely right after the Letterman joke:
Letterman Pregnancy Hoax vs Palin Pregnancy Hoax:
http://www.ottoline.net/PalinHoax/
2. Desperate Housewives is a popular TV show which had episodes in which Bree faked her pregnancy to cover for her daughter. Was Sarah Palin stupid enough to copy the storyline? YES!!
Here is a comparison of the fake pregnancy from the episodes of that TV show and how it seems to have inspired Sarah what to do with her daughter’s first pregnancy with Trig. The timing is significant:
Desperate Housewives Script Plagiarized by Sarah Palin?
http://www.teamtruther.com/forum/top/3
Then read the article about the Desperate Housewives storyline and watch the funny video:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article947380.ece
I wish someone would make a funny video about Desperate Governors. Sarah, Mark, Rod…
I would like to see Gryphen do a post asking for ideas like you have just asked.
Anonymous at 2:21 is right. My husband read it and said "it's nothing." Husband is a lawyer. He noted that it's a civil suit and the bribery alligation is criminal - apples and oranges. He said the only point of the amendment might be to call attention to the bribery, but bribery is criminal not civil.
ReplyDeleteI've read all the comments about how this is an allegation in a request for amending a civil lawsuit. I get that. It's quite minor in itself. But the act isn't minor.
ReplyDeleteI tend to be a bit reserved on where these minor allegations are going. I remember, vividly, reading a brief news article- two or three paragraphs, only- about 35 or so years ago. Some guys broke into the Democratic Headquarters at the Watergate Hotel in D.C. What a nothing story! I certainly didn't think anything would come of that.
So yeah, this is pretty minor. It's an allegation of illegal activity. There may be proof. And none of us know where it will end up.
ProChoiceGrandma and anon@6:50,
ReplyDeleteWhat I did was take the pics of her that showed how impossible it could be that she had been pregnant to my gynocologist and asked her opinion. I then posted the results to my web page.
http://www.palinpeytonplace.com/ob-gyn-shocked.html
At the end of the page, I ask other women to do the same and post what your doctor says. It needs to be a OB GYN doctor if at all possible since they are specialist in knowing how a woman is supposed to look at each week of pregnancy.
My doctor really was shocked when I presented the pictures. I had her face covered so that she wouldn't know who I was talking about until she gave her opinion. I then told her about the 'Wild Ride'. She was just flabbergast.
I feel like if enough women do this and post what their doctors say, it might grow to be enough to have more news coverage and might for Palin into making a move.
And, I'd like to say, if any of you do this, please make a post on my blog with a link to it. I would love to report and have more links to other people who post what their doctor has said.
Re: Husband is a lawyer:
ReplyDeleteAsk your guy what his gut tells him about a guy that has filed lawsuits five times in the past two years and prevailed in none.
brought suit against another party five times in the past two years.
@3:01, gee. My dad's a lawyer, my brother's a lawyer, my uncle's a lawyer, my best friend's husband is a lawyer. Two close friends are lawyers. I could ask all of them for an opinion on this case. But since they all practice different sorts of law, why is their opinion more important than mine? It isn't.
ReplyDeleteHere's the answer: wait and see.
anonymous 3:01
ReplyDeleteI don't know who you are referring to, but the fellow who filed this lawsuit has prevailed successfully before.
Maybe you're watching Fox news or just didn't google the guy yourself? I read his other lawsuit and he won. FYI.