Morality is not determined by the church you attend nor the faith you embrace. It is determined by the quality of your character and the positive impact you have on those you meet along your journey
Joe Wilson is but the latest of an incredibly long line of Republican hypocrites. In my opinion, it is their galling hypocrisy that has hurt them more than their incompetence and mendacity. Those three traits make up a trifecta of political failure. We expect a certain amount of the latter two, but when they are so blatantly hypocritical about it, it is insulting to our intelligence.
I just finished Max Blumenthal's new book, Republican Gomorrah. Talk about hypocrites! There's a bumper crop here and Max uncovers one after another, after another from the beginnning of the book to the end. This is a compelling story and a must read for everyone!
hint - last chapter is all about Sarah. No peeking - read the whole book.
This is the amazing thing with all the people who are so outraged about Obama's policies in office. They rant about our civil rights being taken from us when it will take years to reverse what we lost under Bush. Remember they don't give IQ tests when people register to vote.
The really disgusting this is that the left treated Bush with such respect. You'd think the right would remember the civility with which Bush was treated instead of the rare allegations of being behind 9-11, the photos of Bush in a Nazi uniform, the guy sodomizing a sheep, him being stoned, alcoholic, and suffering from obvious Alzheimers.
And let's face it, when Harry Reid refused to apologize for calling Bush a liar, he clearly was taking the high road when he stood his ground.
Oh, and Celia: I want you to cite ONE court case where the courts found a PLANTIFF's--a citizen of the United States--had civil liberties which were violated.
No bloggers.
Bo ACLU rants.
I want a ruling by a judge. Just a regular guy on the street who had a constitutional right stripped. not a Guantanomo inmate or an enemy combatant; one American, who like the thousands of Japanese who were rounded up by FDR's thugs and sent to a camp at Santa Anita
Do you even know that happened:
"The internment of Americans of Japanese ancestry during WWII was one of the worst violations of civil rights in the history of the United States. The government and the US Army, citing "military necessity", locked up over 110,000 men, women, and children in 10 remote camps. These Americans were never convicted or even charged with any crime, yet were incarcerated for up to 4 years in prison camps surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards."
Bush 41 apologized in 1990 and made offered "token financial compensation" to the survivors."
So, perhaps you might consider the incomprehensible civil rights atrocities of the left (The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments, also) before you point the bony finger of accusation at Bush.
His breachers of civil liberties domestically paled in comparison to those winked at by FDR's interment of Japanese citizens.
As a matter of fact, it may be unprecedented in the history of theAmerican presidency.
100,000!.
Give me 10 Americans who were sent of to a domestic Gulag under George Bush!
Anon @ 6:06 No Dem ever shouted out at Bush during a joint session. Are you alleging that Bush didn't lie? George W. Bush was always truthful? Even you could not be that gullible. Harry Reid was merely speaking the truth.
The thing about Wilson is he was not only setting new standards in incivility in Congress, he was also factually WRONG! Not a damn thing about healthcare for illegals in HR 3200. Yet, moron that he is, he still maintains that it is so. He just doesn’t have the facts on his side. Damn those inconvenient truths!
As to your assertions that liberals somehow generally blame Bush for 9/11, that is intellectually dishonest and patently false. What most liberals would probably agree on is that Bush should have foreseen and could have prevented the attacks of 9/11. That is very different from what you allege. There is ample evidence that Bush chose to ignore intelligence reports indicating that a Bin Laden led Al Qaeda attack on the U.S. was imminent. However, the Decider couldn’t have been bothered with such realities.
Your assertion that somehow the internment of Americans of Japanese descent and Japanese nationals during WWII is a blight only on FDR and the liberals defies credulity. Cite the historical record showing conservatives that protested the policy. It is a shameful blot on our history, but the fear and xenophobia that prompted that atrocity were not the exclusive, nor even primary province of liberalism. Americans of all political persuasions were all too eager to lash out at anybody who looked like those who attacked Pearl Harbor. To suggest that it was a liberal plot is dishonest and reprehensible.
How many people died as a direct cause of the internment? I'm sure there were some deaths that could be attributed directly to the forced internment and insufficient medical care in the camps. I would bet a year's salary that it is nowhere near the fatality figures for the Iraq war.
These are the latest fatality statistics from Iraq: - 4,346 American servicemen - 318 Coalition forces - 93,108 - 1,000,000 + Iraqi civil dead
Yes it is outrageous that we so lowered our moral standards to allow for the internment of 100,000 people. It is even more outrageous that we even further lowered our moral standards to allow the deaths of possibly well over 1,000,000 people.
Your moral relativism is sickening in the extreme. You blithely ignore the reality that is Bush's recreational war and its appalling statistics and you still have the unmitigated gall to claim some sort of moral superiority for conservatism? Your hypocrisy is exceeded only by your utter indifference to verifiable facts and to the sanctity of human life. If we add in casualty figures, the numbers soar even higher into the multiple millions. Yet, somehow, your febrile brain has determined that Bush is more moral than FDR.
I will be glad to hold FDR responsible for the internment of the Japanese Americans and nationals, as he was president and the buck stops with him. Likewise, I will hold Bush responsible for the deaths and injuries sustained during an illegal and unnecessary war.
Which pile of bodies is higher? Which is the greater civil liberties outrage?
Oops! My apologies to Anon @ 6:06. Mea culpa, mea culpa, maxima mea culpa. My misdirected vitriol should have gone out instead to Anon @ 9:45.
It would be much easier if all you "Anons" would just adopt Col. Mustard, Mrs. Butterworth, Mr. X, or any other fictitious nom de plume. Y'all make it SO confusing.
Pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?
Joe Wilson is but the latest of an incredibly long line of Republican hypocrites. In my opinion, it is their galling hypocrisy that has hurt them more than their incompetence and mendacity. Those three traits make up a trifecta of political failure. We expect a certain amount of the latter two, but when they are so blatantly hypocritical about it, it is insulting to our intelligence.
ReplyDeleteMy new bumper sticker: No Republicans in 2010
I just finished Max Blumenthal's new book, Republican Gomorrah. Talk about hypocrites!
ReplyDeleteThere's a bumper crop here and Max uncovers one after another, after another from the beginnning of the book to the end. This is a compelling story and a must read for everyone!
hint - last chapter is all about Sarah. No peeking - read the whole book.
This is the amazing thing with all the people who are so outraged about Obama's policies in office. They rant about our civil rights being taken from us when it will take years to reverse what we lost under Bush. Remember they don't give IQ tests when people register to vote.
ReplyDeleteJoe Wilson...what a hypocritical Tool!
ReplyDeleteGo Gasman!
My new bumper sticker: No Republicans in 2010
Heh! When you get them printed I want to buy one! :)
The really disgusting this is that the left treated Bush with such respect. You'd think the right would remember the civility with which Bush was treated instead of the rare allegations of being behind 9-11, the photos of Bush in a Nazi uniform, the guy sodomizing a sheep, him being stoned, alcoholic, and suffering from obvious Alzheimers.
ReplyDeleteAnd let's face it, when Harry Reid refused to apologize for calling Bush a liar, he clearly was taking the high road when he stood his ground.
Oh, and Celia: I want you to cite ONE court case where the courts found
a PLANTIFF's--a citizen of the United States--had civil liberties which were violated.
No bloggers.
Bo ACLU rants.
I want a ruling by a judge. Just a regular guy on the street who had a constitutional right stripped. not a Guantanomo inmate or an enemy combatant; one American, who like the thousands of Japanese who were rounded up by FDR's thugs and sent to a camp at Santa Anita
Do you even know that happened:
"The internment of Americans of Japanese ancestry during WWII was one of the worst violations of civil rights in the history of the United States. The government and the US Army, citing "military necessity", locked up over 110,000 men, women, and children in 10 remote camps. These Americans were never convicted or even charged with any crime, yet were incarcerated for up to 4 years in prison camps surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards."
Bush 41 apologized in 1990 and made offered "token financial compensation" to the survivors."
So, perhaps you might consider the incomprehensible civil rights atrocities of the left (The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments, also) before you point the bony finger of accusation at Bush.
His breachers of civil liberties domestically paled in comparison to those winked at by FDR's interment of Japanese citizens.
As a matter of fact, it may be unprecedented in the history of theAmerican presidency.
100,000!.
Give me 10 Americans who were sent of to a domestic Gulag under George Bush!
Thanks for sharing that cartoon, Gryphen. Certainly sums it up.
ReplyDeleteCelia @10:38, you're right. I read over at HuffPost a while back that it will take the DOJ, Civil Rights office around 2 years to clean house.
Where did you get that cartoon Gryphen? It's perfect for a conservative forum I take part on.
ReplyDeleteSarah Q.
@9:45 - You seem to be completely unaware of how horribly Arab-Americans were treated by the Bush regime.
ReplyDeleteAnon@9:45 - http://www.discovernikkei.org/wiki/index.php/Japanese-American_and_Arab-American_Parallels
ReplyDeleteAnon @ 6:06
ReplyDeleteNo Dem ever shouted out at Bush during a joint session. Are you alleging that Bush didn't lie? George W. Bush was always truthful? Even you could not be that gullible. Harry Reid was merely speaking the truth.
The thing about Wilson is he was not only setting new standards in incivility in Congress, he was also factually WRONG! Not a damn thing about healthcare for illegals in HR 3200. Yet, moron that he is, he still maintains that it is so. He just doesn’t have the facts on his side. Damn those inconvenient truths!
As to your assertions that liberals somehow generally blame Bush for 9/11, that is intellectually dishonest and patently false. What most liberals would probably agree on is that Bush should have foreseen and could have prevented the attacks of 9/11. That is very different from what you allege. There is ample evidence that Bush chose to ignore intelligence reports indicating that a Bin Laden led Al Qaeda attack on the U.S. was imminent. However, the Decider couldn’t have been bothered with such realities.
Your assertion that somehow the internment of Americans of Japanese descent and Japanese nationals during WWII is a blight only on FDR and the liberals defies credulity. Cite the historical record showing conservatives that protested the policy. It is a shameful blot on our history, but the fear and xenophobia that prompted that atrocity were not the exclusive, nor even primary province of liberalism. Americans of all political persuasions were all too eager to lash out at anybody who looked like those who attacked Pearl Harbor. To suggest that it was a liberal plot is dishonest and reprehensible.
How many people died as a direct cause of the internment? I'm sure there were some deaths that could be attributed directly to the forced internment and insufficient medical care in the camps. I would bet a year's salary that it is nowhere near the fatality figures for the Iraq war.
These are the latest fatality statistics from Iraq:
- 4,346 American servicemen
- 318 Coalition forces
- 93,108 - 1,000,000 + Iraqi civil dead
Yes it is outrageous that we so lowered our moral standards to allow for the internment of 100,000 people. It is even more outrageous that we even further lowered our moral standards to allow the deaths of possibly well over 1,000,000 people.
Your moral relativism is sickening in the extreme. You blithely ignore the reality that is Bush's recreational war and its appalling statistics and you still have the unmitigated gall to claim some sort of moral superiority for conservatism? Your hypocrisy is exceeded only by your utter indifference to verifiable facts and to the sanctity of human life. If we add in casualty figures, the numbers soar even higher into the multiple millions. Yet, somehow, your febrile brain has determined that Bush is more moral than FDR.
I will be glad to hold FDR responsible for the internment of the Japanese Americans and nationals, as he was president and the buck stops with him. Likewise, I will hold Bush responsible for the deaths and injuries sustained during an illegal and unnecessary war.
Which pile of bodies is higher? Which is the greater civil liberties outrage?
Oops! My apologies to Anon @ 6:06. Mea culpa, mea culpa, maxima mea culpa. My misdirected vitriol should have gone out instead to Anon @ 9:45.
ReplyDeleteIt would be much easier if all you "Anons" would just adopt Col. Mustard, Mrs. Butterworth, Mr. X, or any other fictitious nom de plume. Y'all make it SO confusing.
Hey, don't forget the irony--we are dealing with 2 Joe Wilsons and 2 Joint Congressional Addresses!:)
ReplyDeleteThe latter one, of course, is not married to a CIA agent, I hope.