Sunday, November 22, 2009

Andrew Sullivan decides "enough is enough"!

Andrew Sullivan has decided now that Sarah's book is out, and we have versions of events from her own ghostwriter's mouth, it is time to take the Trig pregnancy story mainstream. But knowing full well that the American press is too timid to touch the story he goes to the UK.

Really? The British press has more balls than the American press? I am ashamed.

Take one story that every mother will relate to: the drama of her delivery of her fifth child, Trig. She tells us that at eight months pregnant with a child she knew had Down’s syndrome and would need special care at birth, she got on a plane from Alaska to Dallas, Texas, to attend an energy conference. Most airlines won’t allow this but Alaska Airlines did. Palin then tells us that at 4am on her first night in Dallas, “a strange sensation low in my belly woke me and I sat up straight in bed”. In an interview she gave with the Anchorage Daily News just after Trig’s birth, she confirmed that she had amniotic fluid leaking at that point.

So she was a mother eight months pregnant with a special-needs child thousands of miles from home. She wakes up in the middle of the night with contractions and amniotic leakage and she tells her husband she doesn’t want to call her doctor because it would wake her up at 1am. And she is the sitting governor of a state and her doctor is a close personal friend. Not only that, but she gives the speech as planned in the afternoon, during which she makes a rather good joke. She then tells us what happens next: “Big laughs. More contractions.”

After the speech, does she then go to a local hospital to get checked out? Nah. She gets on two separate aeroplanes all the way back to Alaska, with a stopover in Seattle, because she is determined to have the child in her home town and she just knows that the contractions and amniotic leakage are not signs of imminent delivery. She has had four previous kids so she has experience. “I still had plenty of time ... It was a calm, relatively restful flight home,” she explains of the next 15 hours.

You might imagine that an airline would have some qualms about letting a woman in some sort of labour at eight months, and pregnant with a Down’s syndrome child, get on a long transcontinental flight. What if the baby were born in mid-flight? The plane would have to be diverted. What if something happened to the baby? The airline could be liable. Palin never told the flight attendants. Couldn’t they tell, one might innocently ask. In the Anchorage Daily News story about the birth, Alaska Airlines said: “The stage of her pregnancy was not apparent by observation. She did not show any signs of distress.” Palin makes Xena, the warrior princess, seem fragile. (You can read Andrew's entire article by clicking the title.)

It is ridiculous story isn't it? And yet this is the story that millions of people have been willing to accept as believable. No wonder George Bush was elected President twice (well once anyhow.)

I think Andrew is going to let this one simmer out there for a while before he introduces his alternative theory. And yes, I have e-mailed him and offered to help.

77 comments:

  1. Thank you Andrew!
    FYI Baylor medical Center, a wonderful hospital in Grapevine tx(a north/western suburb of Dallas) is a 5 min drive from where Sarah was at for that convention, The Gaylord Texan Resort in Grapevine. Any sane woman (if she was pregnant) would have gone to the ER before leaving Dallas, but I guess pillows can fly pretty safely during fake pregnancies.

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  2. Anonymous5:28 PM

    beggars can't be choosers...
    But would of been nice if he mentioned her self proclaimed 2 prior miscarriages

    So, NO she wasn't healthy as a horse and knew her own body enough to risk the life of her unborn during contractions (and stinky fluid) over a month before he should be born

    Not ONE miscarriage.. but TWO
    Her womb was fragile no matter how many marathons she's run

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  3. Anonymous5:50 PM

    I'm so glad that at least one well-respected journalist continues to seek the truth on a Palin story that makes no "common-sense". I am truly disappointed that the MSM media has opted not to investigate the real facts behind this fictional story. Doesn't truth have greater value than ratings with today's media. Are there any real investigative reporters left in the MSM?

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  4. Anonymous5:57 PM

    You don't have to register to recommend the story. Just click on recommend at the top of the article.

    And you don't have to register to recommend a comment either.

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  5. Lisabeth6:05 PM

    We are lucky he realizes the seriousness of Sarahs lies. Our MSM laughs at her and mentions some lies but there is no investigative journalism. Enough is enough and in these very hard tomes like these, we don't need a kook running the far right wing stirring up hatred and raciyss She is making millions lying to people. I also have to think Harper Collins and McCain have known the whole time. Sarah is laughing AT us all the way to the bank.

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  6. Polly6:08 PM

    When you open the actual article, leave a comment or "recommend" by clicking the posts!:-) Give this article lots of support and encouragement!!

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  7. Anonymous6:22 PM

    No matter how bizarre the facts of this story, none of them will ever make any of her ignorant faithful stop for even a moment and question with the smallest "hmmmm..." ... No, like her, they will not even blink. The way I'm sure they see it, God wanted her to have that baby in Alaska.

    Her entry into the pseudo-political spotlight is truly something right out of the twilight zone. I feel like I have to pinch myself ... can this be real?

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  8. Of course her fans will miss the point entirely and say this story just shows how singleminded, determined and strong she is in making sure her baby was born in Alaska. What a trooper!

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  9. SME1316:50 PM

    I can actually see palin doing all this IF she had actually been pregnant. She would have had amnio and taken all these risks so she would lose the baby.

    Of course that is what she would have done IF she had been pregnant so she uses that as her actual story.

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  10. MacAndCheeseWhiz6:51 PM

    One of the comments refers to Palin's Version a
    "hagiography" How appropriate! Glad to see Archivist's comment as well.

    Thanks for this post, made my day!

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  11. Anonymous6:58 PM

    Does anyone know what the OPEN criminal case is against Palin. Take a look at courtview and there are quite a few civil cases against her and one criminal. Bristol has 3 court cases as well. Seems she should have taken drivers ed.

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  12. Sullivan also has the story posted on his blog, but with a humorous Wonder Woman into:

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/11/wonderwoman.html#more

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  13. Anonymous7:02 PM

    Andrew Sullivan's article is partially posted on his blog "The Daily Dish" under the heading Wonderwoman. It links to the posting of the entire article in the UK.

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  14. Anonymous7:05 PM

    So, now Andrew is the conspiratist's "Knight Errant du Jour" .

    Eleven A.P. writers have been examining the book like it's the Shroud of Turin and so far...nothing. (Yes, I know. These things take time, like the Warren Report.

    Best headline of the day. It captures two of the left's breatest concerns:

    "Organizing for America: Palin is ‘dangerous.’ PS: send money."

    Go get'm Andrew but at least try to make some minimal gesture of due diligence. For instance, Mr. Sullivan writes (regarding a flight from Dallas to Alaska) that "most airlines" would not allow Palin to have flown because of the fact her baby would need post-partum special needs services.

    To use a phrase I heard this week, "Bullcrap."

    As a pilot for a major sched, our policy is that the patient merely seek medical counsel from her position and that she is not allowed to sit in an emergency exit row. Nor is she allowed to fly within 14 days of DUE date.

    Delta has no restrictions for pregnant passengers but also suggests medical counsel.

    There are no restrictions for pregnant passengers aboard Alaska Airlines Flights.

    Continental requires a certificate within seven days of medical fitness.

    United requires a similar certificate issued within 72 hours of departure.

    U.S. Airways has the stipulations of both Continental and United.

    Air Canada demands a medical certificate in the last month stating that a passenger is fit to travel.

    Since Palin, however, boarded an Air Alaska flight there were no restrictions on her travel (similar to Delta)

    The airline I fly for, for instance, requires a woman to have been issued a medical certificate if she is due to deliver within a month. There are two or three other conditions addressed.

    Sullivan mentions Palin had contractions on the flight but fails to mention they were coming every hour or two which is not indicative of labor.

    Not surprisingly, Sullivan, fails to mention the most serious threat to the pregnant passenger--veinous thrombosis, which has a frequency
    of anywhere between 1/400 and 1/1000.

    Less surprisingly of all--it was actually quite predictable that Palin was in constant contact with her own physician, Cathy Baldwin Johnson, during the flight who was monitoring the situation.

    Dr. Johnson's integrity is also under suspicion as the ever widening concentric circles of the conspiracy broaden exponentially.

    Let me know when you guys find the Lindberg baby.

    And by the way, Gryphen, if Sullivan isn't interested enough in at least getting the facts about the policies of the major scheds and pregnant passengers right, how the f--k can you believe him on medical issues?

    ONE MORE TIME: Air Alaska has NO restrictions on pregnant passengers and those that do merely require a certificate that their Doc is good to go.

    In 20+ years of airline flying I have never had a problem either way and I don't know any other pilot who has--at least those I know--or any stories things turned sour for a passenger who had been boarded and the airline was the defendant in a lawsuit. The only suits I've been aware of are those resulting from injuries due to pregnant passengers subsequent to inflight problems--i.e., turbulence, spilled coffee... .

    This dog just won't hunt.

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  15. Anonymous7:06 PM

    Doesn't matter if the cult still love her. THis will finish her in politics because she will never be able to expand beyond the lunatic fringe.

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  16. Anonymous7:10 PM

    I'm hoping the BBC will cover "the wild ride" now. Gryphen, weren't you interviewed by the BBC earlier this year? Any chance of sending a reporter Sullivan's link? Or perhaps someone else could e-mail some links to BBC reporters?

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  17. Hmmm...James Frey was sued for telling lies in his memoir. Can we do the same of Sarah?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Frey#Early_life

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  18. Anonymous7:22 PM

    Can we also too already tell her to STFU about working from her hospital bed? Back in the office a day after popping out each baby? Progressing womens rights to the point that every working mother can haul their children into the office and make colleagues, underlings and even constituents suffer her bizarre no holds barred family first work ethic? Nurse during teleconferences, vote for my mom, phold hands and pray together, Fast for my decisions. . .

    This woman is certifiable! Since when did American businesses (the Republican free market base.) Give a damn about you and your kids unless their was an annual family picnic?

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  19. Anonymous7:26 PM

    Be sure to read the comments after the article. Folks are mentioned the two miscarriages and making some rather insightful comments.

    I hope HuffPo and other news aggregators pick up this article so its gets even wider distribution.

    Hope his follow-up comes quickly!

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  20. Anonymous7:40 PM

    The comments on the Times page are fantastic! Since Palin reveals in the book that this was her 7th pregnancy (due to 2 miscarriages), it makes her "advanced age" birth story (knowing she was carrying a DS child) all the more dangerous and chilling.

    To the angry "pilot" @ 7:05: You need to read the news stories issued at THE TIME (April 2008), as well as the statements from Alaska Airlines (April 2008).

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  21. Anonymous7:42 PM

    "Air Alaska has NO restrictions on pregnant passengers and those that do merely require a certificate that their Doc is good to go."

    Fine, but the point is that she wasn't pregnant.

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  22. Anonymous7:49 PM

    Who cares whether the airlines allowed pregnant passengers. That is irrelevent since the actual flight attendents didn't notice her prgegancy. You must be a man because no woman with leaking amniotic fluid and a known High risk pregnancy and a history of multiple miscarriages would fly across the country like that. Sullivan got the important parts of the story.

    So how do you know if he is going to publish his own idea of what happened? Did he tell you that? Last week he said he thought he knew what happened and it made more sense.

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  23. Anon 7:02:

    You failed to mention the leaking amniotic fluid. Though she didn't mention this element of the story in her book, she is on record confirming that she suspected fluid leakage.

    Standard operating procedure in the event of a leak, or even a suspected leak, is to get checked out immediately. The risk of infection increases greatly when someone's water has broken. If a woman goes in for a checkup and the doctor finds that they are leaking fluid, they are admitted to the hospital immediately. On one of the blogs a poster described having just that experience, and her doctor was none other than CBJ.

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  24. Anonymous7:52 PM

    It's great that Sullivan titles his essay "Wonder Woman" in the Atlantic at the same time that Mad Magazine released their cover of "Blunder Woman."

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  25. Anonymous8:02 PM

    ThinkProgress is pretty good about tackling stories that other MSM ignore. I submitted some links to Andrew's story - maybe they'll be brave enough to take it on.

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  26. I bet most who will read the book have never heard the wild-ride story. I'm glad Andrew Sullivan added the leaking amniotic fluid to the book version. Now, to hope someone in the US media picks up on the story.

    Having given birth 3 times, I simply can't buy that a rational woman, or superwoman, would board an airplane while leaking amniotic fluid and after having sporadic labor for about 9-12 hours.

    She can imply that her doctor gave her the go ahead but that is never stated. She can imply that 'god told her to go back to AK' but that simply doesn't hold water given the number of times things haven't worked out for her as she expected.

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  27. To Anon@ 7:05 Dear Mr. Pilot--
    Facts are funny things. Ms. Palin has claimed, for the past year, that her water broke in Texas and that she was leaking amnionic fluid.(She seems to have cleaned up this story a bit in her book.) This means (if true) that her due date COULD NOT BE 14 days later-- it means that she was about to give birth within the next 24-48 hours. ..and according to her questionable narrative, she did indeed "give birth" the next day.

    Secondly, the airline folks claimed to not have noticed her physical situation. IF a woman is 8+ months pregnant and leaking amnionic fluid and the airline personel DON'T
    NOTICE this-- then I'd say we have a problem.
    Either Ms. Palin is not in the condition that she claimed to be(which makes her a liar) or the airline folks were not doing their job (which I doubt--I'm sure that they were doing their job). You can't have it both ways.
    All the the rules and regs. that you have shared with us may be absolutely correct- after all- you are the pilot. BUT THEY ARE NOT RELELVANT HERE BECAUSE PALIN CLAIMED THAT HER WATER BROKE BEFORE SHE BOARDED THE PLANE BACK TO ALASKA. There would be only one reason to put a pregnant woman who's water broke on a plane-- to get her to/near a hospital! But there were plenty of fine hospitals right there in Texas. So this is just one of the many reasons that the wild ride story makes no sense.

    Our dogs have been hunting quite successfully for over a year now- thank you !

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  28. Snowing in Alaska8:15 PM

    Andrew needs to pull himself together. He has lost his humor and insight by somehow believing he could make sense of Sarah. That was clear went he went into Limbo Land after not being able to find any facts in her book.

    C'mon Andrew - man up! We Alaskans know what a dangerous demagouge she is, but we also (mostly) keep our humor in order to stay fresh in the game. He's bein' just a little too dramatic for this Alaskan and needs a pail of cold water tossed onto his confused head to put things into perspective again. Go Andrew, get it together!

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  29. Anonymous8:19 PM

    Anon 6:22 wrote:

    "No matter how bizarre the facts of this story, none of them will ever make any of her ignorant faithful stop for even a moment and question with the smallest "hmmmm..." ... No, like her, they will not even blink."

    Yes, you are absolutely correct about this. They will never be dissuaded from their current opinion of her. This was so clearly demonstrated in Nora O'Donnell's coverage of her clueless fans in Michigan. O'Donnell asked a fan if they were aware of that she changed her position of the bailout, that she initially supported it and then denounced it. The really dumb interviewee asked O'Donnell to cite the incident, which O'Donnell did, but the dumb interviewee redused to believe it. She actually responded, "I don't believe she said that." This despite giving her concrete evidence.

    It was truly amazing. I guess it was more amazing that I found it to be amazing.

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  30. Anonymous8:21 PM

    I would like to comment on how stupid it was to bring Trig to work three days after he was supposed to have been born.

    I was at an Holiday Arts & Crafts Show today, and a new mom was walking around with her 9 week baby in one of those cloth slings, the kind the is worn in front of the mom.

    Another young mother came up to her, and like the Obama fist bump, they bumped elbows. The new mother was so thankful, she said it out loud for everyone to hear. She was outraged that people came up to her child and wanted to touch him without asking first. She said that the new mother elbow bump was to avoid spreading germs.
    They continued to talk about what's considered rude and unhealthy in regard to a newborn.

    Do you see a big contrast and a big problem here? Trig (at 3 days old) came into an office filled with people and there was no elbow bump, no care involved in keeping him away from germs. And, I understand that DS kids are not as healthy as other kids; Trig required light treatments, had a heart problem. Just the thought of these people all breathing on him when he first arrived on the scene is the result of totally thoughtless parents.

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  31. I meant to add that her decisions the day before Trig was born were irrational, reckless and self-centered and discredit any attempt of establishing a 'common sense' image.

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  32. Anonymous8:35 PM

    Anon Pilot @ 702 -

    So you'd be okay with it if a pregnant woman leaking amniotic fluid were to get on your plane ?

    Nothing about her story adds up, McCain did a masterful job by bringing in AB Culverhouse to clean things up.

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  33. Anonymous8:39 PM

    To the troll airline pilot at 7:05 p.m. who has the dog who wont' hunt. Well, you must be a pal of Ms. Palin, since you let the world know for the first time that Ms. Palin was "during the flight" "in constant contact" with Dr. Cathy "who was monitoring the situation." She didn't tell us that and since you know it, you must be "intimate" with Sarah. (Wow, maybe you are Chuck Heath who watched the baby "pop out."

    Did that naughty Sarah disobey the airlines rules and spend the two long airline flights using one of her two BlackBerrys?

    Maybe it was Dr. Cathy who told Sarah that "ya can't have a fishpicker born in Texas" (or in Washington, or apparently, in Anchorage), so just keep on 'truckin and get yourself to the good 'ole community hospital in Wasilla. That would be the best place to deliver a high risk a high risk special needs child. We don't need no stinkin' neonatal units. Those are for big city elitists. That's why they named Dr. Cathy Doctor of the Year.

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  34. Anonymous8:57 PM

    Keep Digging and Bring Her Down PLEASE OPen your EYES AND EARS

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  35. Well .. now an airline pilot is weighing in ? Cool ...

    Captain, this is a Rational Mom speaking: please fasten your seat belt, you are about to encounter some Mom Style Logical Turbulence!

    First, nobody cares about the 'rules' of every airline on earth. It's not about breaking rules of an airline. It's about doing something reckless that endangered the life of her baby AND also could have inconvenienced 2 plane loads of passengers. Sometimes, (duh!) people are flying somewhere for a REASON; wedding/funeral/important business or being with a dying loved one. NOBODY has the right to disregard the needs of other passengers. Notwithstanding the fact that IF the wild ride happened like Sarah said it did, she was willing to put her high risk baby at higher risk, OTHER people's time is not hers to 'waste' ...

    As for her doctor's reputation, well I have news for you there too, Captain. People who doubt Palin's story are not the ones who make CBJ look bad .. Palin did that, by involving her in this. I (a woman) do NOT believe that a doctor would have OK'd this, and any doctor who did, endangers her OWN reputation. Don't kill the messenger here.

    Lastly: If sarah was in 'constant contact' on the flight (and you know this how???? right.) then that doesn't mean she was talking to her Doctor about herself ... she could have been getting updates about 'someone else' ...

    Whether you like it or not, this isn't about AK Airlines. It's about Sarah's story that makes no sense; I don't care if she flew the Goodyear Blimp to AK ... it was a reckless thing to do if true, OR the whole thing is a lie.

    Now..

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  36. Anonymous9:15 PM

    Wasn't there information out there that showed $carah was in First Class and Tawd was in coach. Wow...and "they held hands and prayed"....that is an amazing feat!

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  37. Anonymous9:48 PM

    1. going rogue

    The feminine version of "going commando", i.e. wearing no underpants.
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=going+rogue

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  38. Anonymous10:10 PM

    Not only did Palin schlep a 3-day old infant into her workplace.....she brought in an infant that she also claims was FIVE WEEKS PREMATURE.

    Who does THAT!! SO improbable and (if true) so irresponsible and thoughtless. (ok, also so Palin)

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  39. Anon 9:48

    Maybe all her underpants have 'caught on fire' ?

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  40. mlaiuppa10:37 PM

    Actually I never believed it.

    Sarah is a liar.

    However, if you do want to take it as the truth and that Sarah was indeed pregnant, etc, it confirms my belief that Sarah was doing as much she could to see that if she didn't have a "natural" miscarriage that Trig would either be born dead or die soon thereafter.

    Sorry, but that is my low opinion of Sarah Palin. The treatment Trig has received from her since his birth pretty much confirms my opinion of Sarah.

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  41. We don't have to bring Palin down. She is quite capable of doing that herself. Yes, there are some people who still believe in her, but her 15 minutes of fame is about to be over for-ev-er!

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  42. Anonymous11:01 PM

    I love reading this blog. I know I will be attacked for saying that I need PROOF that her last child is not hers. What Palin did, leaving Texas and traveling 15 hours to go to a small town hospital is absolutely insane. I get that.
    But, I already know she has very bad judgement. That fact has been established by her statements, her interviews and her book.

    I never thought her son could be her daugher's child because of the Down's Syndrome. In my mind he is much more likely to have a 40+ mom than one in her teens.

    I saw the recent picture of Sarah holding her son and I thought he resembled the older girls. So, in my mind he shares at least one parent with them.

    So the question is whether she was or was not pregnant. It sure does not look like it in the photos, but that is not proof.

    I once worked with a girl who had hidden a pregnancy. She hid it from her parents who she lived with and all of her co-workers. She had put on very little weight, if any. It can be done.

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  43. Thank you Gryphen for your post.
    Andrew- Bravo ...ol chap

    I support each of you who see that there is just something not kosher concerning Sarah's quite sudden pregnancy. I welcome Andrew Sullivan taking up this battle for the truth in this matter...

    I've been told that this issue stands alone in revealing the deep lies and deceit of Sarah. It just might reveal something 'huge' Can't help but think that the Johnston's have something to tell.

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  44. Anonymous11:27 PM

    I called Alaska Airlines on behalf of a courageous local talk show host at the time...On that day, everyone on radio was all 'congrats to the Palin family...prayers for the health of your new baby...etc' everyone except this particular host. This host said, 'first off...congrats to the Palin family. Moving on...what was the governor thinking flying 2-four hour flights back to Anchorage after her labor began? Governor Palin failed to tell the boarding gates at AK Airlines that she was in labor. THEY WOULD NOT HAVE LET HER BOARD THE AIRCRAFT! In addition, AK Air said, had there been a medical emergency due to Palin's labor, the governor would have been financially responsible for refueling costs and additional fines. So, while I'm happy for the governor with the birth of her child...I must question her judgment!'

    Perhaps Trig is a changling. A surrogate child. A ticket to the VP nomination courtesy of James Dobson. Makes total sense. However...the "FACTS" from the gospel of St. Sarah are just as troubling as the changling possibility! No woman would fly across country TWICE (the week before, Palin flew to DC) within a month of her due date. AND...after palin landed, she bypassed 3 Medical facilities and drove another 45 minutes to Wasilla...

    This is consistent with really BAD JUDGMENT that is who Sarah Palin is...and knowing what a fucking liar Palin is...it would not surprise me in the least if she faked things and adopted a downs baby...

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  45. C'mon Levi1:30 AM

    Nice work Activist. Am now off to give support to Andrew Sullivan. So thrilled this information is now out in the msm.

    Let's hope this is the rumble, that creates the avalanche.

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  46. Anonymous2:25 AM

    Should we start a birther campaign on the left? I’d be satisfied with the short form since all I’ve ever had in my life is a short form (born in Indiana) and I’m 66 years old. Maybe being born at home had something to do with that. Getting back on subject, Captain Kangaroo missed the point entirely. This had absolutely nothing to do with airline rules and everything to do with Sarah’s reckless behavior.

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  47. Anonymous2:41 AM

    Another incosistency - as mentioned on another blog-

    "Last year the Associated Press reported:

    "The doctor's announcement [about the Down's syndrome diagnosis] in December, when Palin was four months pregnant, presented her with a possible life- and career-changing development.

    'I've never had problems with my other pregnancies, so I was shocked,' said Palin."


    Now, Palin writes that she had a previous second trimester fetal death -- the "abortion/miscarriage" -- as well as a later "miscarriage."

    So which is it?"

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  48. Anonymous3:58 AM

    Hi all - here's what I posted in the comments to the article. Many people are pointing out the two miscarriages in their comments:

    Thank you Andrew for at long last putting this "out there". As someone who went through two high risk pregnancies properly attended by perinatal specialists, nothing about this story passes the smell test. No doctor in their right mind would have let her travel and no mother in her right mind would have taken the risk. Period. Let's not forget, in her fairy tale "Going Rogue" she also states that she had two previous miscarriages - making the story even more ridiculous.

    That, plus the continued negligence to attend to the needs of Trig - Where are his glasses? His hearing aids? (I know this firsthand - my own infant daughter was identfied as being deaf at 20 months and the intense speech and language therapy was a critical intervention in her development.) When is he getting the vital early therapies so critically needed so that he can develop his full potential? (On the road? In a tour bus?) Why is he being exposed to massive crowds and stresses of constant travel when he is supposedly medically vulnerable?

    That woman should be reported to Social Services instead of being slavered over by adoring fans. It's despicable.

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  49. Anonymous4:26 AM

    Anon Pilot may know a lot about flying but he has no clue about motherhood or pregnancy. Particularly high risk pregnancy.

    The fact that this woman even attended this convention in the 'late stages of pregnancy' with a high risk baby in her womb damns her from the start. As horrified as I am regarding her behavior on the day she 'delivered' - I am equally horrified that she flew to Texas in the FIRST PLACE. Heartless. Cold, calculating and heartless.

    And this is a woman who trots her creds out as a Mother and a Christian to win votes and raise money???

    Whether she was pregnant or not, she's got her leg in a trap that just won't let go, either way. She's just going to have to keep chewing it off.

    No huntin' dawg necessary.

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  50. Anonymous5:09 AM

    Silvegirl- I hope you are right.

    Sarah is the Queen of bad judgment. Taking a premature baby out in public so soon after birth. She is parading her children now out there with the H1N1 virus. She probably doesn't acknowledge the H1N1 virus since a Democratic pro-choice person who she tried to keep from being appointed is head of Health and Human Services.

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  51. I think I've finally figured this out! Palin had an abortion, and someone knows about it. She hears rumors that she might be tagged for VP and realizes that she will lose all her evangelical right-wing cred if the abortion is reported. So she adopts a DS baby; no woman who gives birth to a DS baby would ever have an abortion, right? Then she dumps the baby on Bristol and Levi, who love him, but are still peeved (Bristol's baby duck and Mercedes Triggy Bear). In retaliation, they get pregnant with their own baby. Am I close?

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  52. PRAISE BE TO GOD, ALLAH AND ALL THE LESSER SAINTS!!!!!!!!!

    Perhaps our long national nightmare is close to being over. I've said from the beginning that Trig's father is Track. that's why Track was sent to Iraq.

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  53. Andrew Sullivan...I love you. I woke up this morning just pissed. Pissed at narcissistic nutcase Palin, pissed at that cynical Rupert Murdoch who is trying to rule this country by brainwashing the "Christian" nutcases & the rednecks, who seem to think they have the answers but they are so fucking stupid they don't realize they are just being used. I was even pissed at Obama for allowing this ridiculous scenario to have come about. He needed to act more quickly before the obstructionists became so effective. Afterall, he did win the election. Any help would be appreciated. I am very fearful that Palin's charade is effectie & she really must be stopped. There is so much at stake. Anyone who knows stuff please help before it's too late. Don't wait.

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  54. "As a pilot for a major sched, our policy is that the patient merely seek medical counsel from her position and that she is not allowed to sit in an emergency exit row. Nor is she allowed to fly within 14 days of DUE date."

    Anon, You are either not a pilot or a bald faced liar. I have five children myself. With each pregnancy, your belly gets bigger, faster. Being 6 months pregnant with my fifth child, trying to fly to my Father's deathbed, was nearly impossible. So the only thing you got right was that she would need a statement from her REGULAR OB/GYN. How did she do that? She didn't. She has never, ever mentioned that little bit of important info. One of her accounts was that she did not call her Doctor. In another account, her Doctor told her it was risky. But never has she said the Airline wanted a statement. And the people working the flight said she did NOT appear to be pregnant.
    So now, which story is true?
    Oh, I forgot. The entire world is made up of liars conspiring against Poor Pitiful Palin. She's the only one who ever tells the truth. Everybody else lies.

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  55. Anonymous5:42 AM

    Just a reminder:

    You don't have to register to recommend Andrew Sullivan's story. Just click on "recommend" at the top of the article.

    And you don't have to register to recommend a comment either.

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  56. Anonymous5:43 AM

    mimic: that makes more sense than any theory I've heard so far. all along I felt like a Bristol pregnancy wasn't BIG enough to scare SP into a huge fraud. Girls are pregnant all the time in AK, particularly in the non-denom, Jesus churches. AND it would explain all the lies colliding about "safe" pregnancies in the past vs. miscarriages. I think you nailed it.

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  57. I read on another blog she kind of threw her doctor a Cathy something under the bus in the book. She said she kept calling her doc & made it sound like it was perfectly ok for her to be flying around so she could give birth in not just alaska but I believe some out of the way hospital in Wasilla. Makes her doctor look like an unprofessional idiot. Another question, where is Todd during this Magical Mystery Tour (book signing)? He's not taking care of Trig & Bristol is not taking care of Trig. Are they sick of her shit. Apparently she has had to haul her nutcase father & mother in on this adventure. Sarah & Todd have looked very estranged from day one. How about the theory that she got pregnant from someone eles had an abortion & was then considered for VP & needed to produce a baby....thus Trig came into the picture. She doesn't look the least bit maternal towards him & why didn't she just leave him home with someone to take care of him during the book tour. Someone like Todd. Let's face it, Trig is nothing more than a stage prop. Another question where is Track? I thought he finished his tour in Iraq.

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  58. I totally agree with MimiC. This is the truth. My big soapbox has always been that the MSM knows the truth and has known it since September 2008 at the very latest.

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  59. Anonymous5:48 AM

    There are only two sides to this story.

    Either she faked the pregnancy, OR

    she was hoping the baby would not make it

    it is clear that HER speech was more important than the baby's life.

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  60. Has the irony escaped you? Palin had a last supper with Billy. We're going to take down two frauds with one Sullivan.

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  61. MimiC I think you are on to something. go girl

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  62. So now who is going to write about the biggest scandal in this whole affair? Our precious right to a free press has been hijacked. That and the fact that McCain picked her and stood by her is TREASON.
    No way to whitewash it. McCain is lower than the dirt on the floor in my view.

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  63. Anonymous6:01 AM

    Sullivan published this in the Times. What is also interesting is that the London Times is a Murdoch-owned newspaper.

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  64. Anonymous6:05 AM

    Zane, Todd is very busy NOT working. This is the weirdest family I've ever read about.

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  65. Anonymous6:18 AM

    Thank you, Andrew Sullivan, for stepping out on a limb. I will be glad when this political hoax is exposed.

    The state website photo of Palin standing next to Parnell dated March 14, 2008, proves this woman did not give birth less than 5 weeks later. And that photo also proves that the Palins blatantly lied to the public during that wild ride interview.

    There are a lot of photos that support a deception, but that particular photo was taken at just the exact angle to show what was behind the scarf, i.e., nothing.

    Thanks, Gryphen, for sharing that article!

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  66. Floyd Orr

    I think you are right, MSM has been bought by Rupert Murdoch & his like. During the election I couldn't believe the coverage. MSM made it look like Obama & McCain were neck & neck which was far from the truth. I am not usually paranoid, but I don't believe we can any longer trust their coverage of anything. Including the coverage of Palin & the book signing. Not once have I heard anyone say how unqualified she is or how bizarre her family situation is. Very few politicians have as many legal problems as she has. I afraid we are on our own. We no longer have fair minded, objective news coverage.

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  67. Quick note re: down syndrome. Audrey posted about this, but, quickly, yes, down syndrome is more likely in older moms. But it does occur with teenager moms. However, teenagers are 30x more likely to get pregnant at all. Particularly, I might add, when your husband is gone for weeks at a time on the north slope.

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  68. I have never believed this story because:


    I had my amniotic sac begin to leak after I was in a minor "fender bender"

    As I put my key into the ignition, another car hit my drivers side rear panel attempting to park next to me.

    My stomach was shoved into the steering wheel, no bruising or any apparent physical injury.

    I was near my due date and had been leaving the lab having had tests.

    My Dr. told me to lay prostrate for 24 hours and if contractions did not begin I would be hospitalized and induced into labour after that time.

    He told me that it was VERY dangerous to be upright and/or walking around as the amniotic fluid depletes the umbilical cord can strangulate the baby. It may wrap it's throat or limbs because it cannot float freely.

    If not in the womb, the cord can strangulate during delivery.

    They allowed me no more than 24 hours then I was immediately hospitalized and induced.

    They only reason I was not hospitalized straight away was because there were no beds available.

    I had a normal pregnancy and a healthy baby.

    There is NO WAY Palin's story adds up.

    In her "condition" and that of the baby's no Dr. would EVER approve of her taking the trip in the first place.

    Even in a normal healthy pregnancy, no thinking person would consider making that trip either.

    That is only the beginning, the rest of the story falls apart from there.

    No pregnant woman would NOT call a Dr. in her circumstance, even if she had had 100 children previously.

    Never mind the high risk pregnancy that this was.


    I looked after the leaking very well with heavy duty menstrual pads, so no, the flight attendants would not have known Palin was "leaking" IF that were true.

    Pictures of her at the time did not look like she was anywhere near 8 months pregnant.

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  69. Anonymous10:49 AM

    I find it incredibly suspicious that her 5 week preemie Down's Syndrome hole in the heart baby was allowed to go straight home. And that he weighed 6 pounds 7 oz or whatever it was. Down's Syndrome babies have a lower than average birth weight, so coupled with being 5 weeks preemie he is quite big.
    Anyway a friend of mine had a 8 weeks preemie baby who is otherwise perfectly healthy, and weighs over 4 pounds, and he still has to stay in NICU for 8 weeks until he is full term size. He is on oxygen and has to wear tin foil on his little head(no he is not a crazy conspiracist!). He also has UV sessions where he wears these little special goggles. I don't see how Sarah managed to take a healthy looking Trig home the same day with all these problems. Wouldn't her governor's health insurance cover a longer stay? Don't healthy 40 week babies still get 3 days in hospital? Anyway I found a message board of mother's talking about their(non-Down's non-hole in the heart) preemie babies and NICU:
    http://www.shareyourstory.org/webx/.ef4dbfe

    Mothers with preemie babies, speak up! Was anyone allowed to leave the hospital the same day??

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  70. Anonymous11:04 AM

    Another interesting preemie article:
    http://kidshealth.org/parent/pregnancy_newborn/medical_care/preemie_home.html#

    Interesting that preemie babies can't go home until they can feed on their own without needing tube feeding. Feeding is a known issue for Down's syndrome babies! Are we expected to believe 5 week preemie Trig just latched on immediately, wow Sarah really is Wonder Mom!
    http://breastfeeding.about.com/od/babyhealthissues/a/downsyndrome.htm

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  71. Anonymous11:31 AM

    A blog by a mother of a new baby with Down's Syndrome. Her baby spent 4 months in NICU. Not sure if she was premature or not. Maybe someone should email the blog about Sarah's amazing experience with a Down's baby, flying 8 months pregnant with amniotic fluid leaking, giving birth to a 5 week preemie with Down's and heart problems and going home the same day!

    http://downsyndromenewmama.blogspot.com/search/label/NICU

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  72. Question for Floyd Orr:
    What is your theory of why the MSM has been so disinterested in the Palin Scandal?

    It seems to me that there were big bucks to be made by breaking the story.

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  73. Anonymous2:37 PM

    Martha:

    Thanks for enlightening us. I find it extremely hard to believe any doctor would be so nonchalant about leaking amniotic fluid. IT is so obvious that no such incident took place.

    MimiC:

    Your theory makes a lot of sense and very plausible. I've suspected this to be a possibility, though I don't know how, other that FOX, the MSM could/would keep something like this under wraps. I do, however, think that McCain knew about this and has covered it up.

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  74. Anonymous3:50 PM

    Re: "Conscious at last' and the rest of the illiterates:

    Sullivan point blank suggests that no airline would Palin to fly in her condition.

    Is that so hard to get?

    It's not true--particularly for Alaska Airlines.

    What is so hard to understand about that?

    If you don't believe that call the airline. Tell them your eight months pregnant, you've been in contact with your physician, and she hasn't ruled out a long-haul trip.

    This is all just peripheral nonsense anyway.

    Have any of you paused to consider how many people would need to keep quiet to cover this up?

    There are the doctors, nurses, technicians, and administrative people involved. The kid is SOMEBODY'S baby.

    How about the lab? Are they in on it? What about the security guy in New Orleans when Palin stopped off for a pregnancy test kit? Does he deny dropping her off at the Walgreen's?

    Nixon had relatively few people in his inner circle who knew about the
    coverup.

    How would this work exactly?

    Is the case being made Palin never had the kid or is the issue she had the kid but the flight on Alaskan Airlines was a bad call?

    Is the argument being made that there are no "outliers" statistically with respect to the births of Downs' syndrome children? That is, every pregnancy presents the same challenges and the same calls must be made in every case?

    You people have made life very simple for me: I make no entreaties to God other than that in his infinite wisdom he sees to it none of you ever serve on a jury.

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  75. Anonymous4:03 PM

    So, Martha, you see an equivalency between your situation and Palin's.

    You were in an automobile collision, near your due date, and there was trauma to your abdominal area.

    What, exactly, does "near your due date" mean? 24 hours? A week? Two?

    You said you were leaving the lab at the time and were given 24 hours for contractions to begin?

    But back to Palin: Is it your contention that a 44-year-old woman could have been leaking amniotic fluid because of ruptured membranes and forestalled delivery for more than eight hours?

    The duration of the flight was 12 hours. Palin, if her contractions were those of labor and IF she was truly leaking amniotic fluid would have delivered on the airplane.

    Maybe there's a OBY/GYN guy who would like to estimate the probability that given all the relevant factors, this would not be the most likely case.

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  76. Dear Mr. Pilot @3:50--

    It is certainly not necessary to insult me, I did not insult you. That is the first indication to me that you know you are on shaky ground. I merely pursued a logical argument. The interesting thing about your "buck shot every where" response is that you fail to mention the central point of my argument-- that Palin claimed that her water broke and that she was leaking amnionic fluid-- . Do you understand what that means ?? Shall I spell it out for you ? It means that the membrane around the fluid filled sac that contains the baby has ruptured and that the birth is imminent. I cannot imagine any sane woman who would board a plane in such a condition. I cannot imagine any airline that would allow this unless it was a short local flight to get the woman to a hospital. Mr. Pilot, you have ignored this point. Quite frankly, it is too late right now for me to address many of your other questions. I am willing to do this however, if you would like to have a respectful exchange.

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