Tea parties are proving very attractive to both white supremacists and the militia movement. At 11:15 on Friday, in an online Patriot Caucus discussion forum, David E. Parsons wrote a post called "Militia Training Videos," with links to videos by Mark Koernke, a leading figure in the American militia movement, and his followers.
Militants such as Koernke have referred to their cause as the Patriot Movement for years. Meanwhile, multiple tea party groups are springing up which refer to themselves as "militias." Eric Odom, executive director of American Liberty Alliance, created the Patriot Caucus website on which the militia recruitment post was made. He has yet to respond to a January 22 email informing him of the post. At time of publication, the post was still up.
Even as the teabaggers themselves attempt to argue against being labeled racists and lunatics, groups like Council of Conservative Citizens and Stormfront have found kindred spirits within their ranks.
The White Supremacist connection to the tea parties seems to be growing stronger.
“What I’m fighting for primarily at this point is the survival of the white race,” says Ready, who announced he was a member of the National Alliance after Obama won the election, according to the video. Ready also says he supports what he calls a “racial holy war.”
The National Alliance recently organized an anti-immigration protest in Phoenix, where chants of “No niggers! No Jews! The Mexicans must go too!” were yelled for a few minutes before protest leaders decided to go with “USA! USA!” instead. Ready was a keynote speaker at the event.
On top of white supremacy ties to anti-immigration activists, there are also connections to some conservative Tea Party groups.
“For years the anti-immigration movement was the vehicle of choice for white nationalists looking for an impact on public policy,” says the unknown narrator in the 22-minute newscast. But Tea Party rallies are what “White Nationalists see as their best chance in decades to cross over into mainstream American politics.”
The Council of Conservative Citizens, which has organized Tea Party protests according to the news report, is an organization that a variety of watchdog groups have defined as being white supremacist. The Council gets its roots from “a coalition of white-supremacist groups formed throughout the South to defend school segregation after the Supreme Court outlawed it in Brown vs. Board of Education,” according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
And where there are fearful white racists can the militia groups be far behind?
However before everybody gets too concerned about heavily armed militias attempting to take over this country, it may be informative to see a video of these knuckle draggers in action.
There is some stiff competition but I have to say that my favorite militia name has to be Mississippi River Rats. That kind of just says it all doesn't it?
I don't know about you but watching these severely out of shape overgrown children playing GI Joe while stumbling through the woods, with the crappy hard rock sound track playing, does not exactly fill me with dread.
And since they are not using blanks in their guns I kind of think their real contribution to humanity will be to prove, once and for all, that Darwin was right.
Since Palin has decided to stay true to the Tea Party mess, maybe it's because of the AIP-like groups attending.
ReplyDeleteThey all think alike.
The following quote is from Timothy McVeigh & at first I thought it was by $arah...hmmm
" I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control."
Another interesting point about $arah's commitment to the Tea Party Activists is the following article by Salon.com a while back.
ReplyDeleteThe AIP's Mark Chryson tells of his friendship with Sarah & his expectations of her working on behalf of their beliefs.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/10/palin_chryson/
These Anti-American groups are the breeding ground for domestic terrorists such as Timothy McVeigh. I include the AIP in this category. If you don't love America, then get the hell out. These homegrown traitors are as dangerous as the people who bombed the world trade center, only worse because they target their own.
ReplyDeleteJames O'Keefe is well on his way down that same road, only the Anti-American groups funding him are cloaked in fundamentalist religion. The judge should not have allowed the twenty-five-year-old O'Keefe out on bail (to be supervised by his parents) -- he targeted a federal building and should be treated as the traitor and terrorist that he is. I'd like to see Glenn Beck and the Fox cronies try to defend this one. Hypocrites and traitors one and all.
And who, exactly, are they preparing to shoot? Everybody that voted for Obama? Everybody that is for expanded Healthcare?
ReplyDeleteAs for "drilling" with actual bullets - duh! Accident waiting to happen there.
What the tone of this video says to me is "We feel scared. Maybe if we act like tough guys, no one will see through our act." I would pity them, except they believe violence is an acceptable strategy. FAIL!
Uh, what the heck? The music in that video is from the video game Tribes 2 by Sierra.
ReplyDeleteMississippi River Rats is a good name for them. I also think of them as 7.62mm pond scum. Of course, they also love Jesus and are devout White is Right followers. A bunch of cretins with guns is what they are. No cure has been developed.
ReplyDeleteThese ignoramouses are just seeking to dress up the KKK in another cloak...
ReplyDeleteI posted this over at Bree's site and it seems apt for this story too, I just changed a little of the wording:
ReplyDeleteThere may be a handful of people who might actually try to commit a violent act, but I look at most of these goofy people as doing nothing more than blowing bombastic hot air. They need a common enemy and the government is an easy target, especially since it is now headed by a smart black man.
Or in other words, as the great poet Jay-Z said in his epic work '99 Problems' -- 'You know the type, loud as a motorbike, but wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight...'
--RedPepperFlakes14
Angry impotent white folks looking to recruit more angry impotent white folks.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, Jay-Z has it exactly right.
RS McCain, Rhiel, Palin.
ReplyDeleteContrary to what RedPepperFlakes 14 says, some of these groups are very, very dangerous. They may back off when their funds are targeted and seized in lawsuits and their resources scattered, but they can regroup and lay low while refunding themselves.
ReplyDeleteEven though they are a very small minority of the US population, they are dangerous racist, misogynistic reactionaries, often operating under the guise of "christian" organizations as well. They're usually extremely well armed, as we have found out in a number of instances in the past.
I'm thinking that if Sarah is driven from the national scene, she will retreat to Alaska and take over the AIP movement with the aim of making herself POTSSA--President of the Sovereign State of Alaska.
ReplyDeleteSeriously. She's that delusional. She will not go quietly into the night. The only way to stop this whack job is to put her in prison. Where is the federal investigation of her PAC and Fund?
If Sarah is driven from the national scene, her fans will happily fund the Sister Sarah Church of the Truly Clueless.
ReplyDeletewas the soundtrack composed by the riverbottom nightmare band? i hear they hang out regularly with the mississippi river mud rats.
ReplyDeletehey, we're not birds, we're a jug band!
emmett otter allusions aside, that tape was hilarious and pathetic at the same time. i liked watching the camouflage-painted pick-up truck slowly load up with patriots, some who needed to be yanked aboard. and the vicarious use of smoke in the beginning was anti-climactic before there was even enough video to allow a climax. i doubt this one will get an oscar nod. did anyone else notice mel gibson in a couple of scenes, though?
Thanks to Scarlet/Oregon for the link to the excellent Salon article.I read it last year, but, it's definitely worth re-reading. The article mentions Tammy McGraw as being Sarah's birth coach. I wonder what she was doing in early 2008 ?
ReplyDeleteI don't take their activities lightly. There's a 35-40 year old who lives in the apartment just above me. Very friendly & talkative. I was in the laundry room one day and he came in and immediately launched into a talk about politics & religion. Doesn't like Obama, loves Palin. Said he cried when Obama was elected.
ReplyDeleteSays he's not a preacher but that he's an evangelist. That "they" are taking over the country. "They" are going to kill us all - we had better be ready. We are in danger from "them". I ask who "they" were. He ask if I'd heard of the Bilderbergs or the John Birch Society? Yeah, of course, who hasn't?
Then he decided to enlighten me. Started in about the dangers of the Masons. I said my dad was a Mason, that I had been Rainbow girl, the family was involved but there was never any conspiracy talk. He switched to Catholics. I said my son married a Catholic girl & he converted, they're raising the kids Catholic & that I didn't have a problem w/ it. He instantly switched to Jews. I said my daughter married a Jewish man, she converted. I didn't have a problem w/ that either. He switched to Mormons. I said my brother married a Mormon, that he didn't convert but they raised their daughter in the Mormon church. That I didn't have a problem w/ that. He switched to Scientologists. I said my daughter and her husband went through a Scientology phase, that I didn't have a problem with that. (This is Pinellas CO, FL, big Scientologist area). By this time, he was obviously getting agitated. Someone had left a Watch Tower pamphlet in the laundry room. He picked it up and ripped it in half, said Jehovah's Witnesses were the worst of all. I really wanted to say my (late) husband's aunt was Jeh. Wit. but by that time I kind of thought I shouldn't push his buttons. It was difficult not to laugh.
He asked if I was Born Again. I said I was quite comfortable w/ my spirituality. Did I go to church? Nope, wasn't interested. He said I needed to listen to Alex Jones.
He says he's from Indiana. I have family ties in IN so ask him what town he was from. He wouldn't say. Told me his first name, (Chuck) but won't tell me or the neighbors his last name. I do genealogy & I always ask last names. It's odd when a neighbor won't tell their last name or what town they're from.
He goes to the apartment pool in the middle of the night and treads water for 2 hours. 2 hours at a time! When he told me that I asked him why he did that. He said, to build up his endurance. He rides his bicycle daily for hours at a time. The girl next door says that he has an elaborate set of weights. We can hear the weights clunking for about an hour EVERY night from 3 a.m to 4 a.m. There's a gym about 1 block from the apts., he goes to the gym every day. Blond hair, flat top, neat as a pin, muscled up. Wild blue eyes. Militia group? White Supremacy? I'm guessing yes. I'm also guessing ex-military. No girlfriends - no friends at all visit his apartment.
He doesn't like Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, etc. etc. I've only had 2 conversations w/ him in 8 months. I avoid him.
Palin's acceptance into the mainstream of society gave these nuts the courage to start speaking up to whoever will listen to them. The Internet gave them easy access to each other and the delusion that they're in the majority. I've lived in the Bible Belt most of my life and I've never before seen or heard so many of them who don't hesitate to proselytize. They're working up their courage which is what concerns me. I don't think it's wise to underestimate what they're capable of.
8:23 a.m. is right.
ReplyDeleteBeing African American and having lived in a very red southern state all of my life, I definitely take these types of groups seriously. We have the KKK, League of the South, tea party groups, and militia groups in the area where I live. I am constantly on guard for a member of one of these groups to go nuts at any time. Sharon in Florida is correct when she states that they hate a whole lot of people and groups, and they usually don't have, or cannot explain, the reason for their hate. Here in GA these types have a lot of influence because many politicians either believe what they believe or are not brave enough to denounce them for fear of reprecussions. And, as Sharon has stated, they believe themselves to be representatives of the best that Christianity has to offer. The cognitive dissonance is forever locked into place in these individuals. The republicans in our General Assembly are preparing another round of tax cuts with a 10.1% unemployment rate in a recession. GA also lost millions in a bid to obtain funds for a high speed rail system, receiving only $750,000 because the republican-led legislature is unwilling to invest in the program. Now they're whining about Charlotte, NC's share and are saying that a high speed rail service will be a big commercial benefit to NC. Anything that could help the state in the longterm is usually rejected in favor of providing tax cuts to big business. The citizens don't realize/care that they keep electing the same types of politicians to the General Assembly as long as their taxes are not raised, and the politicians they vote for hate the same people and policies that they do. In a state like GA it would be a big mistake to assume that these militias and other hate groups do not influence legislation and progress because they most definitely do.
ReplyDeleteIf you or people you know are not the targets of these folks, it is mighty easy to slough them off as nuts. However, if you or people you know are targets of these nuts, then you have to take them seriously.
ReplyDeleteYou don't have to panic, of course, but it is foolish to brush them aside because you think they lack the brains or guts to follow-through on their beliefs.
Those people don't need brains or guts to kill people. All they need is be ratcheted-up to a frenzy or to have what they consider as an easy target. One life lost to these folks is one life too many.
We all have a duty to stand up against these folks whatever incarnation they assume. They may change the names of their organizations, and they may change their affiliations, but they are still dangerous to those they wish to eradicate.
Only those who are in no direct danger of being their targets or know no one who would be refuse to take them seriously. You may characterize their video as being game-like, but this is no game. They take themselves seriously. That is enough proof of their danger.
All you have to do is think of the Oklahoma City bombing, or murders such as that of Dr. Tiller in Kansas to know that these organizations prey upon the weakest intellect and the most fragile egos amongst themselves to be their instruments for destruction.
These folks are no different that than the foreign terrorists except that, if you think about it, they know better how to manipulate our own society against us because they are part of it.
We can kid around that they are at the bottom of gene pool part of our society, but laughing at them doesn't do anything to diffuse their danger.
Laughing at them may make us feel better, but taking simply actions such as banning assault rifles and implementing stiff penalties for using existing ones can make an impact (not the only options, but just examples). Law enforcement has long argued against allowing manufacturers to sell weapons and ammunition more powerful than we provide our police forces.
We need to think outside the box and come up with effective ways to make these groups impotent, to reduce their effectiveness, and to ensure they do not have the means to wreck havoc on our society and kill innocent citizens. To do otherwise is simply empowering them.
Sure, they are fools. Sure, they are acting foolishly. But folks, fools can kill. They do so all the time. Take these people seriously if not for your own safety, then for the safety of others in our country. We have a common duty to each other to ensure our society is as safe and sane as we can make it without turning it into a police state.
However, if we don't take hate groups seriously and they lash out, that may be the knee-jerk reaction to violence: to turn our society into such a tightly-controlled one that none of us will feel it's worth living in. Better to take these hate groups seriously now and do what we can to diffuse their increasing financial, political and societal power.
Sticking our heads up our collective rear ends is not a positive or effective response.
Since their inception, I have thought that the primary motivation behind the teabagger movement was racism. They rarely come out and use overtly racial terms - “Kenyan” being a pretty glaring exception - but the not-too-subtle code words are always present. As dumb as they are, most of them have at least enough rudimentary brainstem activity to realize that if they actually employ the “N” word that they will be reviled and shunned by everyone, even the asshats at FauxNews. So they try and play coy with every euphemism they can possibly think of.
ReplyDeleteThe überconservatives never employed this level of hyperbole with Clinton. They hated his guts but we never saw the comparisons with Hitler or Stalin. There were not the incessant cries of “socialism” or “communism” and certainly no one EVER questioned the legitimacy of his birth or his citizenship. Arguably, Clinton was the more liberal of the two. Obama has been exceedingly conciliatory to the GOP, so much so that he has infuriated the liberal base of his own party. Clinton ran as a moderate and ended up being more liberal, while Obama ran as an avowed liberal but has governed far more to the center or even slightly right of center. Gee, if I could only think of SOMETHING DIFFERENT between those two Democratic presidents, what could it possibly be?
The only reason that I can see for the teabaggers to be so irrational, silly, and preposterous in their opposition to President Obama is because he is black and their narrow minded racial intolerance of all non whites terrifies them.
EVERY teabagger rally has had no shortage of examples of overt racism: Obama as a witch doctor replete with a bone in his nose, copious signs extolling birther nonsense, comparisons of Obama with monkeys and apes, etc. These folks are intolerant bigots whose worst fears have come to pass. They have even imagined that Obama’s ACORN storm troopers - i.e. “black” - will be coming to take away the conservatives. What they really fear is that the “brothers” will be carting away all the white women to defile them with their jumbo sized “Kenyan” sexual organs. These folks are nothing more than garden variety redneck crackers, slobbering goober cousin fucks who are scared to death of an African American president.
Teabaggers are a cancer on this nation. They extoll nothing but ignorance and hate. While these militia fools ride around in camo pickups playing GI Joe, the social forerunners of these morons rode around in pickups looking for black folks to lynch.
If we grant them ANY acceptance, they are always but a step away from actual violence. The violent theatrics helps them compensate for their societal impotence - and possible actual flaccidity. Given the chance, they would gladly make the leap to actual violence to boost their egos.
I take these groups very seriously. To do otherwise would be absolute folly. Their disciples are very dangerous. They worship guns and live in a world of hate.
ReplyDeleteGasman and Morb and Anon. @ 11:44
ReplyDeleteGreat comments. I agree w/ all of you on every point.
Anon.@ 11:44 you said
"We need to think outside the box and come up with effective ways to make these groups impotent, to reduce their effectiveness, and to ensure they do not have the means to wreck havoc on our society and kill innocent citizens. To do otherwise is simply empowering them."
That's the question that I think about every day.
I have to wonder how Ron Paul feels about his name on their video.
ReplyDeleteGasman says it most succinctly. These people are most dangerous. They're motivated by hate, racism and xenophobia.
ReplyDeleteMac And Cheese Wiz,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the props, but I've never been accused of being succinct.
Even if a group is armed to prevent a military coup or some other horrific event, the government has all the big toys and they could never win. They have the heat ray which has already been used against protestors, scaler weapons(which have probably been used in secret), drones, helicopters, fighter jets, and the usual arsenal. It is a waste of time to even worry about rifles. Why do you think they let people keep them?
ReplyDeleteCould some biddy please photograh a mandation while yer there? Thanx a bunch.
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